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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:15:52 PM EDT
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Of all my cans, this is the only one I've had a strike.
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Posted: 4/23/2024 7:45:21 PM EDT
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During a conjugal visit I had an endcap strike with my Obsidian45 shooting low-powered supersonic 45-70 rounds, however, I did not have Teflon tape on the direct thread adapter like I should have.
I really only grazed the endcap but it did give me something to consider moving forward. The baffles were good to go.  Attached FileI'm watching this thread closely. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:05:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBeaverRetriever: During a conjugal visit I had an endcap strike with my Obsidian45 shooting low-powered supersonic 45-70 rounds, however, I did not have Teflon tape on the direct thread adapter like I should have. I really only grazed the endcap but it did give me something to consider moving forward. The baffles were good to go. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/238591/1000009919_jpg-3196196.JPG I'm watching this thread closely. Rugged is the only can I own that says to teflon tape the threads.....personally, I think their design suppresses very well. But something in the design also leads to lots of baffle and end cap strikes. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:36:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joesrcool]
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Everyone I personally know who owns an Obsidian 9, myself included, has had at minimum an endcap strike and a few with baffle strikes. I know more people who have Sierra 5's who've had fewer issues than an Obsidian 9. Great sounding can though.
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:42:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spot-remover]
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I have a thousand plus of 9mm and .38 spl. through mine with no strikes, direct thread.
I have estimated 500 plus through it with a Rugged piston and had one pretty bad endcap strike. Before I switched to EZ-LOK, I would only shoot it in the short (and wet) configuration to minimize the chances of another strike. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:45:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheBeaverRetriever]
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For lack of a better term, all of this baffles me
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2024 9:47:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spot-remover]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBeaverRetriever: For lack of a better term, all of this baffles me LOL, and indeed. Certainly someone has figured out what the flaw is. I just wish that person would tell us. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 10:02:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spot-remover: LOL, and indeed. Certainly someone has figured out what the flaw is. I just wish that person would tell us. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spot-remover: Originally Posted By TheBeaverRetriever: For lack of a better term, all of this baffles me LOL, and indeed. Certainly someone has figured out what the flaw is. I just wish that person would tell us. I'm VERY surprised Rugged hasn't changed the design. In my email to them to told them "I know the negative voices are the loudest" and I am sure they have sold thousands of cans....but dog gone there are A LOT of Obsidian 9 owners who have had baffle and or end cap strikes. |
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Posted: 4/23/2024 11:19:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spot-remover: LOL, and indeed. Certainly someone has figured out what the flaw is. I just wish that person would tell us. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spot-remover: Originally Posted By TheBeaverRetriever: For lack of a better term, all of this baffles me LOL, and indeed. Certainly someone has figured out what the flaw is. I just wish that person would tell us. and 45's with 9mm caps
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Posted: 4/24/2024 12:53:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rookie421: Here is the bore on my end cap, .416 inches. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/81074/20240422_183921_jpg-3195360.JPG Well, shouldn’t be an issue of a narrow bore then… i think bullet dia +0.060 is pretty much the standard there…. |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/24/2024 1:02:35 AM EDT
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I often wonder if the threads on the rugged pistons/accessories are cut on the looser side of tolerances, causing issues with staying tight and causing baffle strikes.
The obsidian is basically the same thing as a Silencerco octane and the octane has been around for 10 years, with practically zero issues with end cap/baffle strikes. |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 1:04:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LaminarFlow: Were you using the full or short configuration of your O45 with the 9mm end cap when you have the end cap strikes? I think I read somewhere here about the same and Rugged only recommending using the 9mm end cap on the O45 in the short configuration. I haven’t read it directly from them though unless I missed it in their instruction booklet. Well that’s good to know! I hadn’t heard that and I’ve used the 9mm cap on the Obsidian 45 in long cfg w/o issues *yet* but only shooting 300 blk through it… I’ve only shot 9mm through with the 45 cap on it so far. I’ve course it would be a bit of a stretch to say I “read” the manual… I did open it once though! |
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Posted: 4/24/2024 12:46:02 PM EDT
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Travis told me that they use 147gr ammo to test, so I now know that is gtg. They also want me to try it on my other PCC's with 3lug (Hahnson Bros 3lug with the Rugged 3lug adaptor. I'm a little hesitant. Probably still going to use the EZ Lok on my AK-V to make sure it has a super solid lock up. On my AR-V the can sits under the rail and that is not a fast shooting gun like the AK-V.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2024 1:48:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By StrikeEagle15: This user had the same problems. After three trips back to rugged, Rugged says it’s not fixable. Poor manufacturing, or a design flaw. https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/-ARCHIVED-THREAD-More-baffle-strike-issues-UPDATE/20-525959/?page=1 That's not what happened. Rugged never said they couldn't fix it. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2024 5:42:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: That I don't know. Would be interesting data for sure. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By d16man: Originally Posted By JTR: Originally Posted By d16man: This is correct Yes, I am aware that they stay aligned on Obsidian cans. I also know other companies have them opposing. What I am wondering is, since there are a lot of reports of endcap strikes on obsidian’s, and the one pictured above shows the strike in line with the notches: are the majority of end cap strikes on obsidian’s in line with the notches? If so, than the alignment may be a factor. That I don't know. Would be interesting data for sure. More data. Mine from this last weekend. Not sure what gun I was using it on when it happened since I was swapping hosts. This is my second strike. I was using EZLok for both so it's not a guaranteed fix.  
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:49:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SIGthusiast: More data. Mine from this last weekend. Not sure what gun I was using it on when it happened since I was swapping hosts. This is my second strike. I was using EZLok for both so it's not a guaranteed fix. https://i.imgur.com/jQC2SpV.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/XaUTHIL.jpeg again the end cap strike is inline with the clips in the baffles |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 3:59:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SIGthusiast: More data. Mine from this last weekend. Not sure what gun I was using it on when it happened since I was swapping hosts. This is my second strike. I was using EZLok for both so it's not a guaranteed fix. https://i.imgur.com/jQC2SpV.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/XaUTHIL.jpeg Originally Posted By DMG-LDS: again the end cap strike is inline with the clips in the baffles I'm wondering if short config is the only answer. I wish Rugged would address it. I told them in one of my emails this can is costing them and and the consumer a lot of extra $$. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 4:42:43 PM EDT
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Bummer. I was literally going to do almost the same identical setup with my AKV. I talked with the same Travis from Rugged today after reading this thread last night. He indicated it wasn't a good idea" AKV's are known for having their barrels squared with the gas block vs barrel shoulder". I told him I'd take it as a warning. It's s just strange because I've talked to a few people with trilug setup and it didn't mention any issues. I did find a Alpha Mount from JMAC that looks promising.. However, it has exposed threads which is kindy funky. https://www.jmac-customs.com/2c-1-2-28-x12-alpha/
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Posted: 5/2/2024 5:05:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _Will_: Bummer. I was literally going to do almost the same identical setup with my AKV. I talked with the same Travis from Rugged today after reading this thread last night. He indicated it wasn't a good idea" AKV's are known for having their barrels squared with the gas block vs barrel shoulder". I told him I'd take it as a warning. It's s just strange because I've talked to a few people with trilug setup and it didn't mention any issues. I did find a Alpha Mount from JMAC that looks promising.. However, it has exposed threads which is kindy funky. https://www.jmac-customs.com/2c-1-2-28-x12-alpha/ I have a similar Jmac muzzle device on my PAP M82 and it has worked very well with my nomad 30. I bet it works well with the AKV. |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:04:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By _Will_: Bummer. I was literally going to do almost the same identical setup with my AKV. I talked with the same Travis from Rugged today after reading this thread last night. He indicated it wasn't a good idea" AKV's are known for having their barrels squared with the gas block vs barrel shoulder". I told him I'd take it as a warning. It's s just strange because I've talked to a few people with trilug setup and it didn't mention any issues. I did find a Alpha Mount from JMAC that looks promising.. However, it has exposed threads which is kindy funky. https://www.jmac-customs.com/2c-1-2-28-x12-alpha/ AK-Vs are not know for having their barrels squared with the gas block. I even sent him pics of me installing my tri lug, showing it seating on the barrel shoulder and not the gas block. It isn't a 1960s Chinese AK with non concentric issues. It IS a can that gives lots of people end cap and baffle strikes on a variety of platforms though.... |
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Posted: Yesterday 3:12:45 PM EDT
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I know this does nothing for you OP but I was about to buy a 9 and 45 obsidian. But I will now pass and just get an octane 45.
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Posted: Yesterday 3:51:31 PM EDT
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I keep an eye on these threads as I have an Obsidian 9, but I run it in short configuration. It's come loose enough to affect accuracy but no strikes, knock on wood.
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Posted: Yesterday 10:19:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JTR: Seeing this picture makes me wonder if other Obsidian strikes were lined up with the baffle notches? -I know some brands keep the notches aligned, others alternate 180*….. Friend has an obsidian9, it had a end cap strike on a 32acp gun of mine that has known good muzzle threads. The end cap damage was lined up with the baffle cuts. |
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