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Posted: 4/11/2013 8:20:01 PM EDT
I've used a Lee FCD with my .38 loads and it's great. Tonight I tried the 9mm die with some Berry's 124 grain loads. I know you want a real light crimp with the plated bullets. What is happening is that the die is taking a shaving off the case mouth. What, if anything, am I doing wrong? Thanks.
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Posted: 4/11/2013 8:35:14 PM EDT
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Is this the first time you've ever used this die? Or have you successfully used the die on other 9mm bullets?
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Posted: 4/11/2013 8:41:15 PM EDT
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Is this the first time you've ever used this die? Or have you successfully used the die on other 9mm bullets? Yes, this is the first time I've used this die. |
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Posted: 4/11/2013 8:50:59 PM EDT
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Is this the first time you've ever used this die? Or have you successfully used the die on other 9mm bullets? Yes, this is the first time I've used this die. Is it putting a big streak down the side of the case? If so, there's a defect (burr) in the carbide sleeve. Send it back to Lee and they'll replace it for free. This happened to a new Lee 9mm resizing die. I sent them an email with attached photos and told them the die was enroute. They didn't wait to receive it first they shipped it right away I think I got it in 4 days. |
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Posted: 4/11/2013 8:56:48 PM EDT
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Is this the first time you've ever used this die? Or have you successfully used the die on other 9mm bullets? Yes, this is the first time I've used this die. Is it putting a big streak down the side of the case? If so, there's a defect (burr) in the carbide sleeve. Send it back to Lee and they'll replace it for free. This happened to a new Lee 9mm resizing die. I sent them an email with attached photos and told them the die was enroute. They didn't wait to receive it first they shipped it right away I think I got it in 4 days. No, no other markings. I backed it off to a quarter turn and I am still getting a little bit of shavings. |
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Posted: 4/11/2013 9:23:36 PM EDT
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Send it back. They'll treat you right
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Posted: 4/11/2013 9:32:03 PM EDT
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Send it back. They'll treat you right Ok, sounds like the thing to do. Thanks for all your help. |
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Posted: 4/12/2013 10:46:54 AM EDT
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How much are you belling the case before bullet seating?
Chamfering case mouth? Doubt it is a die issue, not enough bell would be my guess. |
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Posted: 4/12/2013 10:51:18 AM EDT
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How much are you belling the case before bullet seating? Chamfering case mouth? Doubt it is a die issue, not enough bell would be my guess. Had the same problem on my new 9mm die, increasing the bell did it for me. ETA: I was using Berry's 115 gr copper plated |
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Posted: 4/12/2013 10:55:20 AM EDT
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Agree with dryflash.
I was having the exact same thing happen with my Lee dies and the 9mm Berry's bullets. Assuming you are also using the Lee 'powder through expanding die' try turning it in about a quarter turn to increase the bell. That solved my problem. |
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Posted: 4/12/2013 12:09:22 PM EDT
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Caused by machining inside 9mm fcd. Has nothing to do with belling. Machining will smooth out with use.
dc. 
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Posted: 4/12/2013 12:45:44 PM EDT
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Caused by crappy machining inside 9mm fcd. Has nothing to do with belling. Machining will smooth out with use. dc. http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu324/daclark1911/IMG_20130412_150345_zpsac5bfc75.jpg Fixed it for ya. 
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Posted: 4/12/2013 8:00:10 PM EDT
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I get that too. Shaves a little bit of the case mouth, kind od like a chamfer. My fix is to blow the shavings away and continue.
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Posted: 4/12/2013 9:58:02 PM EDT
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I assume you are just using it as a crimp die and not a seat crimp die correct? The stage before it should have done either seating or seating /crimp and the FCD checks the final crimp
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Posted: 4/12/2013 10:45:38 PM EDT
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I assume you are just using it as a crimp die and not a seat crimp die correct? The stage before it should have done either seating or seating /crimp and the FCD checks the final crimp You can't seat with a FCD. It don't have a seating plug. OP are you sure it's case brass you are getting and not a little bullet plating? Also. Are you reducing the size of the mouth flair before using the FCD? If not you are doing it with the FCD on the way in which is not a good thing to do. Personally, I don't use the FCD with plated or cast bullets. |
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Posted: 4/13/2013 4:04:06 AM EDT
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Lee factory crimp die is a taper crimp die with a non adjustable sizer ring at base.
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Posted: 4/13/2013 5:23:43 AM EDT
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The taper crimp is breaking off the sharp edge of the case mouth, happens allot when the die is new, after the machining smoothes out a little with use the shavings will reduce/stop.
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Posted: 4/13/2013 7:16:09 AM EDT
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If the 9mm LFCD is scraping brass off the case mouth back off on the bell until it doesn't do that any more.
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Posted: 4/13/2013 8:53:44 AM EDT
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If the 9mm LFCD is scraping brass off the case mouth back off on the bell until it doesn't do that any more. Have you taken a 9mm Lee fcd apart ? |
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Posted: 4/13/2013 10:58:21 AM EDT
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If the 9mm LFCD is scraping brass off the case mouth back off on the bell until it doesn't do that any more. Have you taken a 9mm Lee fcd apart ? No, and I don't understand what that has to do with backing off the case mouth bell at the powder stage. |
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Posted: 4/13/2013 12:21:43 PM EDT
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Take a .355 bullet, add 0.010 x 2 and we get 0.375 for component diameter at case mouth. Bell to 0.377 and case mouth won't even start to touch carbide sizer ring at base. Straight wall pistol fcd has carbide sizer at base, 0.380 in diameter.
0.380 is as wide as case mouth can be after passing carbide sizer. Taper crimp portion is 0.379, inside diameter. See picture posted, note brass shavings. dc. |
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Posted: 4/13/2013 1:10:27 PM EDT
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I wasn't seating with the FCD. I wasn't crimping with the seating die, either. I belled the case mouth less than I usually do.
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Posted: 4/13/2013 1:25:20 PM EDT
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I wasn't seating with the FCD. I wasn't crimping with the seating die, either. I belled the case mouth less than I usually do. If your bell was less than .380 it shouldn't have nicked the carbide ring. I don't know what else it the bell could be scraping against unless something is crooked or off center. |
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Posted: 4/13/2013 2:00:52 PM EDT
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I wasn't seating with the FCD. I wasn't crimping with the seating die, either. I belled the case mouth less than I usually do. If your bell was less than .380 it shouldn't have nicked the carbide ring. I don't know what else it the bell could be scraping against unless something is crooked or off center. Carbide ring at base isn't the issue, taper crimp at top of die is the issue. dc. |
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Posted: 4/13/2013 7:16:11 PM EDT
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i would add a little more bell and turn the seating die back a little. All you need is for the seating dies to close up the bell enough to hold the bullet in place and let the FCD do the final crimp
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