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Link Posted: 3/7/2024 9:07:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock] [#1]
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Originally Posted By coregon:

@Roadblock


13" 308 with 11" rail

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_2026_jpg-3152342.JPG



16" with 13.5" rail

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_2027_jpg-3152343.JPG



16" with 11" rail - Note:  I didnt screw in the retention screws, just the rail attached by the pivot pin.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_2028_jpg-3152344.JPG



16" on 11" rail closeup

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Originally Posted By coregon:

@Roadblock


13" 308 with 11" rail

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_2026_jpg-3152342.JPG



16" with 13.5" rail

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_2027_jpg-3152343.JPG



16" with 11" rail - Note:  I didnt screw in the retention screws, just the rail attached by the pivot pin.  

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_2028_jpg-3152344.JPG



16" on 11" rail closeup

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/232800/IMG_2029_jpg-3152345.JPG
@coregon

Thank you! I'm sold!

I want the 11" rail for my 16" rifle now, and I want to either shave or cut/reweld gas regulator.

I love that exposed gas block look!

Originally Posted By thehun06:
@coregon ... how do I go about acquiring an 11" handguard ...
@thehun06

Order one!

https://www.sigsauer.com/mcx-spear-11-inch-aluminum-handguard-coyote-brown.html
Link Posted: 3/12/2024 3:34:48 PM EDT
[#2]
Had the opportunity to try out the Spear on Sunday. Was a very short trip and was only able to get a 50 yard zero (Didn't want to start at 100, as I didn't know if the scope was going to be close to zero on the Spear). Genuinely surprised by how soft shooting the 13" Spear is, especially compared to my LMT MARS 13.5". Hopefully I can get out and get a proper 100 yard zero sometime soon but the Spear has become my favorite "rifle".

Link Posted: 3/12/2024 7:50:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zerlak:
Had the opportunity to try out the Spear on Sunday. Was a very short trip and was only able to get a 50 yard zero (Didn't want to start at 100, as I didn't know if the scope was going to be close to zero on the Spear). Genuinely surprised by how soft shooting the 13" Spear is, especially compared to my LMT MARS 13.5". Hopefully I can get out and get a proper 100 yard zero sometime soon but the Spear has become my favorite "rifle".

https://i.imgur.com/dnJufxZ.jpg
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Part of me wishes I had gotten the 13" and not the 16"..
Link Posted: 3/12/2024 8:36:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Part of me wishes I had gotten the 13" and not the 16"..
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Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By Zerlak:
Had the opportunity to try out the Spear on Sunday. Was a very short trip and was only able to get a 50 yard zero (Didn't want to start at 100, as I didn't know if the scope was going to be close to zero on the Spear). Genuinely surprised by how soft shooting the 13" Spear is, especially compared to my LMT MARS 13.5". Hopefully I can get out and get a proper 100 yard zero sometime soon but the Spear has become my favorite "rifle".

https://i.imgur.com/dnJufxZ.jpg
Part of me wishes I had gotten the 13" and not the 16"..


13" is perfection. Looking forward to grabbing a 277 Fury barrel for it.
Link Posted: 3/12/2024 8:45:20 PM EDT
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I will say ... the anodizing on the handguards are weak sauce ...
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 12:10:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehun06:
I will say ... the anodizing on the handguards are weak sauce ...
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Don't care for the color mismatch?
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 12:31:26 PM EDT
[#7]
Was it already mentioned as to when the Spear will be available in .277 Fury?
Link Posted: 3/13/2024 6:26:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zerlak:


Don't care for the color mismatch?
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Originally Posted By Zerlak:
Originally Posted By thehun06:
I will say ... the anodizing on the handguards are weak sauce ...


Don't care for the color mismatch?


I love the mismatch but it’s not very durable ... off to my cerakote guy here we go ... if there is one thing I've learned ... its really really hard to do consistent tan/coyote anodizing while being durable ... ...
Link Posted: 3/25/2024 9:02:14 AM EDT
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Hi @coregon, there are rumors of an imminent release of a black cerakoted MCX Spear version, is that correct?
If so any ETA?
Is this going to be some kind of Gen 1.5?

Holding up to put my hands on one of those.
Link Posted: 3/28/2024 8:21:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BlueShirtGuy] [#10]
Just got a SPEAR SBR.

Looking through the manual I do not see anything about rail and barrel removal. Very odd. Does anyone know the torque specs on the rail and barrel?

Link Posted: 3/29/2024 3:03:33 PM EDT
[#11]
Anyone know when the barrels in 6.8 will be released?
Link Posted: 3/29/2024 5:10:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BlueShirtGuy:
Just got a SPEAR SBR.

Looking through the manual I do not see anything about rail and barrel removal. Very odd. Does anyone know the torque specs on the rail and barrel?

https://i.postimg.cc/DfQ8T0fX/20240328-184038.jpg
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35 in/lbs for the handguard screws and 60 in/lbs for the barrel …
Link Posted: 3/29/2024 5:11:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WTR_Warlord:
Anyone know when the barrels in 6.8 will be released?
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@coregon
Link Posted: 3/30/2024 9:10:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehun06:


35 in/lbs for the handguard screws and 60 in/lbs for the barrel …
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Thank you!

This thing is a beast. My shoulder is sore after a day at the range with her. Is it because Sig put this tiny magpul stock on it? Anyone changed the stock out and getting softer recoil?
Link Posted: 3/30/2024 10:06:43 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BlueShirtGuy:


Thank you!

This thing is a beast. My shoulder is sore after a day at the range with her. Is it because Sig put this tiny magpul stock on it? Anyone changed the stock out and getting softer recoil?
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No problem ... this really needs a muzzle brake ... once you install one ... it really tames it down ... to be fair ... any 308 semi needs a muzzle brake ... flash hiders just kind of suck ... if you have a suppressor or planning on getting one ... a brake also acts as a sacrificial blast baffle ...
Link Posted: 3/30/2024 6:21:01 PM EDT
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can anyone confirm the only models available today are 308 in 13" or 16"?  

I think that's right... the internet refuses to find me a 6.5 creedmoor for sale, and want to be sure.
Link Posted: 3/30/2024 6:55:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Elliptic9119:
can anyone confirm the only models available today are 308 in 13" or 16"?  

I think that's right... the internet refuses to find me a 6.5 creedmoor for sale, and want to be sure.
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Correct
Link Posted: 3/30/2024 7:34:26 PM EDT
[#18]
For those SBR’ing where did you put your engraving if your form 1 the firearm.
Link Posted: 3/30/2024 9:05:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Knoxp9090:
For those SBR’ing where did you put your engraving if your form 1 the firearm.
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Mine is factory SBR but if it were me I'd do the magwell lip.
Link Posted: 3/31/2024 2:13:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehun06:


Correct
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Originally Posted By thehun06:
Originally Posted By Elliptic9119:
can anyone confirm the only models available today are 308 in 13" or 16"?  

I think that's right... the internet refuses to find me a 6.5 creedmoor for sale, and want to be sure.


Correct


Someone on Reddit posted their newly acquired Spear in 6.5 this week
Link Posted: 3/31/2024 8:41:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WTR_Warlord:


Someone on Reddit posted their newly acquired Spear in 6.5 this week
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Originally Posted By WTR_Warlord:
Originally Posted By thehun06:
Originally Posted By Elliptic9119:
can anyone confirm the only models available today are 308 in 13" or 16"?  

I think that's right... the internet refuses to find me a 6.5 creedmoor for sale, and want to be sure.


Correct


Someone on Reddit posted their newly acquired Spear in 6.5 this week


Looks like the UPC is active:798682659462
Link Posted: 3/31/2024 9:51:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock] [#22]
Just picked up a basic bitch 16" SIG 716i Tread 308 for $1499.00. Tossed on a spare Vortex Razor HD 1-6x Gen II-e on a Badger mount and a Magpul FDE CTR..

I might like this more than my 16" SIG MCX Spear 308 for a basic DI rifle, so light!

Link Posted: 4/1/2024 9:25:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehun06:


@coregon
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Originally Posted By WTR_Warlord:
Anyone know when the barrels in 6.8 will be released?


@coregon


It's coming.  There is a release date set.
Link Posted: 4/1/2024 12:37:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Knoxp9090:
For those SBR’ing where did you put your engraving if your form 1 the firearm.
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sorry if this is repetitive or rookie...  is this how to SBR the spear without doing Form 4?


1) Buy the 13" version without a stock (PSPEAR-762-13B)
2) Complete Form 1
3) Then simply install the stock below after Form 1 is approved?
4) Do the required engravings


Planning to use this stock:
SKU8901407
ModelMCX/MPX FOLDING MAGPUL SL-K STOCK AND ADAPTER - FDE
Link Posted: 4/1/2024 1:05:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Elliptic9119:

sorry if this is repetitive or rookie...  is this how to SBR the spear without doing Form 4?


1) Buy the 13" version without a stock (PSPEAR-762-13B)
2) Complete Form 1
3) Then simply install the stock below after Form 1 is approved?
4) Do the required engravings


Planning to use this stock:
SKU8901407
ModelMCX/MPX FOLDING MAGPUL SL-K STOCK AND ADAPTER - FDE
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Originally Posted By Elliptic9119:
Originally Posted By Knoxp9090:
For those SBR'ing where did you put your engraving if your form 1 the firearm.

sorry if this is repetitive or rookie...  is this how to SBR the spear without doing Form 4?


1) Buy the 13" version without a stock (PSPEAR-762-13B)
2) Complete Form 1
3) Then simply install the stock below after Form 1 is approved?
4) Do the required engravings


Planning to use this stock:
SKU8901407
ModelMCX/MPX FOLDING MAGPUL SL-K STOCK AND ADAPTER - FDE

Yes - that's how it works.

You buy the "pistol" version of it, then Form 1 it - once approved, engrave, and from there you're good to throw a stock on - it's SBRd.
Link Posted: 4/2/2024 9:55:35 PM EDT
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Good feedback, looking for local engravers that could do the mag well lip.  

Also considering what stock is best stock.  I like the kate moss style because of how flat it folds.  I have seen the standard 6 position that’s comes in it and it seems to hang out there a bit.

I’d love to hear other users thoughts.

Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:32:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Knoxp9090:
Good feedback, looking for local engravers that could do the mag well lip.  

Also considering what stock is best stock.  I like the kate moss style because of how flat it folds.  I have seen the standard 6 position that’s comes in it and it seems to hang out there a bit.

I’d love to hear other users thoughts.

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I threw on my Kate moss stock when I purchased mine it felt unbalanced so switched back to the factory stock.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 1:51:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Knoxp9090:
Good feedback, looking for local engravers that could do the mag well lip.  

Also considering what stock is best stock.  I like the kate moss style because of how flat it folds.  I have seen the standard 6 position that’s comes in it and it seems to hang out there a bit.

I’d love to hear other users thoughts.

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Folding flat is nice but it is something I find more important for a "bag" rifle, like a Rattler or even the 9" setups.

13" Spear with the stock folded is still on the long side for bag use. The factory stock folds "enough" to be carried/stowed folded and gives it some weight in the back to counter the front.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 9:25:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Knoxp9090:
Good feedback, looking for local engravers that could do the mag well lip.  

Also considering what stock is best stock.  I like the kate moss style because of how flat it folds.  I have seen the standard 6 position that’s comes in it and it seems to hang out there a bit.

I’d love to hear other users thoughts.

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Keep the factory folder. While laying flat is desirable. It folds enough to be good for vehicle deployment and/or putting it into a smaller hardcase.

I tried to throw on my Minimalist Plus … which is great for a MPX but the Spear Heavy wasn’t that fun with it.
Link Posted: 4/3/2024 12:37:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JAG2955] [#30]
I tried putting a Magpul SL-S on it.  Just a tad too thick to fold properly, but I really liked the cheekweld-pulled it off to maintain foldability.

I need to try a telefold on it, which is my favorite MCX stock.
Link Posted: 4/6/2024 12:07:21 PM EDT
[#31]
Looks like the 6.5 version may have been cancelled? It's no longer listed on the main spear page in sigs website
Link Posted: 4/6/2024 4:09:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: call_me_ski] [#32]
Maybe they are updating the listing to have the updated features like the deleted forward assist.  

@coregon Any word on the Spear hitting LE price lists?
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 6:53:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock] [#33]
Originally Posted By BlueShirtGuy:

Thank you!

This thing is a beast. My shoulder is sore after a day at the range with her. Is it because Sig put this tiny magpul stock on it? Anyone changed the stock out and getting softer recoil?
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If you didn't already figure it out, those are not normal TORX bits on the rails.

Do yourself a favor and buy a set if you don't already have them, the screws like to strip if you use normal TORX.

https://a.co/d/ePVc7Bs

Link Posted: 4/11/2024 7:53:13 PM EDT
[#34]
It’s called torx plus
Link Posted: 4/11/2024 10:43:38 PM EDT
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It's called torx plus
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I guess I could have mentioned the specific bit incase the link changes, but yeah Torx Plus IP15.

Works so much better with the right bit!
Link Posted: 4/13/2024 12:24:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By coregon:


It's coming.  There is a release date set.
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Are caliber conversions planned?
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 7:58:34 PM EDT
[#37]
How did I miss this?!

https://arisakadefense.com/mcx-spear-308-zero-retention-clamp/




Link Posted: 4/17/2024 10:46:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Roadblock:
How did I miss this?!

https://arisakadefense.com/mcx-spear-308-zero-retention-clamp/




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Or you can run a Magpul RSA where the handguard meets the upper …
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 10:56:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Roadblock] [#39]
Deleted.. Moot point.
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 12:11:46 PM EDT
[#40]
We Test The US Military's Newly Adopted .277 Fury Round




Link Posted: 4/28/2024 12:38:35 PM EDT
[#41]
New handguard ... shovelnose design ...
Link Posted: 4/28/2024 4:55:23 PM EDT
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3k+ fps from a 13" barrel and over 100 grain bullet. Damned impressive.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 10:26:14 AM EDT
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Entertaining video, and cool to see the cartridge reaching 3000fps out of a 13" barrel.  Wish they could have gotten their hands on the correct projectile/load however, so the test would be a bit more useful.  Of if they had compared the performance directly to 5.56 or 7.62 NATO.
Link Posted: 4/29/2024 11:24:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Alpha-17:
Entertaining video, and cool to see the cartridge reaching 3000fps out of a 13" barrel.  Wish they could have gotten their hands on the correct projectile/load however, so the test would be a bit more useful.  Of if they had compared the performance directly to 5.56 or 7.62 NATO.
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Meaning an AP round to test against the armor?
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 10:45:30 AM EDT
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Meaning an AP round to test against the armor?
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AP if one exists, at the very least the EPR projectile being used in the Army's ammunition.  The 6.8 EPR would be interesting to see tested against gel/soft targets as well, since I haven't seen any info on it.  Only today learned it was dubbed the "XM1186".
Link Posted: 4/30/2024 12:24:28 PM EDT
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AP if one exists, at the very least the EPR projectile being used in the Army's ammunition.  The 6.8 EPR would be interesting to see tested against gel/soft targets as well, since I haven't seen any info on it.  Only today learned it was dubbed the "XM1186".
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Originally Posted By Alpha-17:
Originally Posted By coregon:


Meaning an AP round to test against the armor?


AP if one exists, at the very least the EPR projectile being used in the Army's ammunition.  The 6.8 EPR would be interesting to see tested against gel/soft targets as well, since I haven't seen any info on it.  Only today learned it was dubbed the "XM1186".


There are multiple rounds/loadings that exist.  The load GT is using is the Army's RRA (Reduced Range Ammunition) loading, so definitely see your point that it isnt the most efficient testing to test vs gel/soft targets, etc.  But, it's what he was given and is, probably, the least effective loading, so it could be considered a low-end threshold/baseline.
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 4:32:04 PM EDT
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https://soldiersystems.net/2024/05/08/sneak-peek-sig-spear-assaulter/#respond
Link Posted: 5/8/2024 5:28:14 PM EDT
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A 10" 6.8x51.... My ears are ringing just thinking about it.

Link Posted: 5/9/2024 1:03:33 PM EDT
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A 10" 6.8x51.... My ears are ringing just thinking about it.

https://soldiersystems.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/IMG_1550-440x280.jpeg
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I wonder if this be available on the civilian side in 308?
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 11:15:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thehun06:
New handguard ... shovelnose design ...
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I REALLY want that shovelnose rail for my Spear. That is hot!

I've never liked that look on anything but it looks GOOD on on the Spear. I think just because the way regulator looks and works.

@coregon

Also is a 6.5CM barrel still coming? If yes, what are the barrel lengths going to be?



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