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Posted: 1/3/2020 12:09:50 AM EDT
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Probably been cheaper to let him buy the material. As much supply as he goes through, I'm sure he gets a better deal. What slight markup he adds would likely cover what you paid and what you'll pay to ship to him.
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Posted: 1/3/2020 12:41:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By number40Fan:
Probably been cheaper to let him buy the material. As much supply as he goes through, I'm sure he gets a better deal. What slight markup he adds would likely cover what you paid and what you'll pay to ship to him. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2020 1:50:03 AM EDT
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Well, in that case.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/4/2020 11:33:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By number40Fan:
Probably been cheaper to let him buy the material. As much supply as he goes through, I'm sure he gets a better deal. What slight markup he adds would likely cover what you paid and what you'll pay to ship to him. |
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Posted: 1/6/2020 11:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: With stainless and aluminum, almost certainly, but I don't do enough with titanium to get quantity price breaks. Is email or FB a better commo method? |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/7/2020 10:11:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26:
I sent you an IM Is email or FB a better commo method? Either FB Messenger or email works, check both multiple times daily. |
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Posted: 1/7/2020 11:48:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: On here? Either FB Messenger or email works, check both multiple times daily. Do you have the tooling to do a rear endcap to fit a Gen 1 CZ Scorpion Evo? I think it's 18x1 thread. |
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Posted: 1/10/2020 8:58:36 PM EDT
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So I really liked the SDTA end cap however they did not offer it in 1.375” in TI. After multiple attempts emailing them asking if they could make me a one off and getting no response I asked ECCO Machine if he could do something in a similar style. Of course he could, he also made me a booster bushing to fit my tube and added the flutes which match the liberty booster perfectly. I cannot recommend his services highly enough.
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KS, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2020 12:13:20 AM EDT
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Purdy
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Posted: 1/11/2020 11:50:38 AM EDT
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Those flutes look deep! How thick is that tube? I’m going to send my titanium silencer to Ecco when the stamp comes back, but I’m not sure mine is thick enough to cut flutes like that. I’d like something at the base for better grip to remove it. Maybe a sleeve over the top?
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2020 12:20:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottsGT:
Those flutes look deep! How thick is that tube? I’m going to send my titanium silencer to Ecco when the stamp comes back, but I’m not sure mine is thick enough to cut flutes like that. I’d like something at the base for better grip to remove it. Maybe a sleeve over the top? |
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Posted: 1/11/2020 1:27:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce:
They're. 020" deep, tube is .058" wall. I used a 9/16 ball nose to get the width. Kind or a pain, because any more than about .001" depth disparity will cause a visible change in flute width, so even with a mandrel inside, you have to touch off both ends of the cut and adjust height for each cut. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce:
Originally Posted By ScottsGT:
Those flutes look deep! How thick is that tube? I’m going to send my titanium silencer to Ecco when the stamp comes back, but I’m not sure mine is thick enough to cut flutes like that. I’d like something at the base for better grip to remove it. Maybe a sleeve over the top? 
I've got another ~18" of that tube left. I will ask for something simpler next time. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/11/2020 1:46:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
Sorry for it being a pain
I've got another ~18" of that tube left. I will ask for something simpler next time. |
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Posted: 1/11/2020 2:13:39 PM EDT
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OST for next batch of .22 parts.
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Posted: 1/16/2020 9:05:47 PM EDT
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Pic of said free TI, will be sending off to Nick tomorrow to let him work some magic and give us feedback on this material supplier.
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Posted: 1/24/2020 12:45:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
Pic of said free TI, will be sending off to Nick tomorrow to let him work some magic and give us feedback on this material supplier. https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/82196593_10216645203424325_2609407311965323264_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQl0kWMafQVijhjsLGvyhOQrDZENGTkjpGx1_4kLD6qrqznyHdAvfbCdER-Wwnivfmk&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=e67f6ef6299a3b882664619839450bfe&oe=5E93D8BC |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2020 5:31:45 AM EDT
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So Sixtydixdeuce is ECCO?
Guess I'm not understanding how this works... Is this how it goes: 1. Discuss what you want 2. Pay for it 3. He gives you OAL for your F1 4. You fill out F1, and provide him with Engraving info 5. He makes, engraves, and coats parts 6. Wait for F1 approval, and then he ships it in pieces so you can build it. Am I close? Website? |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:16:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
Well I got my tube today, turns out there’s a reason why no one makes a 1.375 tube that the liberty booster can screw into, the dang threads aren’t big enough 
Anyway I’ll have to have a booster bushing. I’ll probably just order a bushing from DM and I’ve reached out to SDTA to see if they can make me an endcap like I want in the size I want. I’ve asked DM twice about when I could order one of their low pro end caps with no response... Once I get that stuff in I’ll be sending it out to ECCO to be threaded and have weight loss surgery. What’s the point of diminishing returns on 9mm handgun cans? I can pretty much do anything I want with this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259822/267CADA6-A43B-4ECC-9250-7E5719D1D5A6_jpeg-1173968.JPG |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 8:38:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Cowbell]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1:
So Sixtydixdeuce is ECCO? Guess I'm not understanding how this works... Is this how it goes: 1. Discuss what you want 2. Pay for it 3. He gives you OAL for your F1 4. You fill out F1, and provide him with Engraving info 5. He makes, engraves, and coats parts 6. Wait for F1 approval, and then he ships it in pieces so you can build it. Am I close? Website?
First of all OAL isn’t that critical but always err on the side of too long on your F1. If you think it will be 6.5” put 7” on the form. Just don’t gon longer than what’s on your form and don’t be off like 3”. Fill out form 1, wait for approval. Once stamp is received poke a hole in the endcap big enough for a bullet of listed caliber to pass through. Send to ECCO with instructions and contact info. I reached out before I shipped anything. He will put your stuff in the queue and get to work on it when he can. Once completed he will call you for CC payment. Easy breezy. |
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Posted: 1/24/2020 8:56:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tommyidone:
Dear god please do it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tommyidone:
Originally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
Well I got my tube today, turns out there’s a reason why no one makes a 1.375 tube that the liberty booster can screw into, the dang threads aren’t big enough
Anyway I’ll have to have a booster bushing. I’ll probably just order a bushing from DM and I’ve reached out to SDTA to see if they can make me an endcap like I want in the size I want. I’ve asked DM twice about when I could order one of their low pro end caps with no response... Once I get that stuff in I’ll be sending it out to ECCO to be threaded and have weight loss surgery. What’s the point of diminishing returns on 9mm handgun cans? I can pretty much do anything I want with this: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259822/267CADA6-A43B-4ECC-9250-7E5719D1D5A6_jpeg-1173968.JPG
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Posted: 1/24/2020 9:13:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slowkota1:
So Sixtydixdeuce is ECCO? Guess I'm not understanding how this works... Is this how it goes: 1. Discuss what you want 2. Pay for it 3. He gives you OAL for your F1 4. You fill out F1, and provide him with Engraving info 5. He makes, engraves, and coats parts 6. Wait for F1 approval, and then he ships it in pieces so you can build it. Am I close? Website? Lesson learned on my end after email with Nick: You don't need to have it engraved first. He can do it all at once. ATF isn't picky about time of engraving. I didn't need to buy the expensive titanium end cap I bought since he is going to build an insert that screws into my tube. Should have just bought aluminum or steel. It's kind of a disposable item you must have to "make" a silencer. Each design is different, so take this with a grain of salt and speak/email with Nick first. He's is an artist. Go with his plan. ....Patiently waiting on Form 1 approval to punch that hole and send it on to him. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2020 10:21:05 AM EDT
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Yeah, I did a little more reading (checked out his FB page lol) after I posted... Once I read that I was like "Duh, I'm dumb!
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2020 6:03:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: anthony20031]
[#23]
Ok I'm a little slow on this friday afternoon so just wanted to clarify.
I could order a titanium tube with end caps from DM. Once I get those and my F1 gets approved i can drill a hole through the end caps for my required bullet diameter. Then send it all to Ecco for internals/baffles and coating etc? I went through the F4 process for a YHM 5.56 can but am looking for a 9mm can that I can swap between my striborg and my vp9. As a result, interested in the F1 route rather than waiting 12 months for the F4. Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/28/2020 9:35:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/29/2020 7:52:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
It’s that time again boys: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259822/5AD02EA7-186D-4845-8C14-4F545ED231DE_jpe-1253855.JPG |
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Posted: 1/29/2020 6:50:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:
My jealousy is peaked.... pinching pennies to make mine happen this year. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USAFtacFANAC:
Originally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
It’s that time again boys: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259822/5AD02EA7-186D-4845-8C14-4F545ED231DE_jpe-1253855.JPG 
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Posted: 1/29/2020 11:04:58 PM EDT
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I don’t want to bug Nick cause he is a busy man but what’s the average turn around time once you send him a can? Thanks
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Posted: 1/30/2020 10:40:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nubs101:
I don’t want to bug Nick cause he is a busy man but what’s the average turn around time once you send him a can? Thanks |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 11:01:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottsGT:
I think I read he’s got about two weeks of work ahead of new work coming in the door. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottsGT:
Originally Posted By nubs101:
I don’t want to bug Nick cause he is a busy man but what’s the average turn around time once you send him a can? Thanks
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Posted: 1/30/2020 12:49:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
Good time to be in his line of work Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
Originally Posted By ScottsGT:
Originally Posted By nubs101:
I don’t want to bug Nick cause he is a busy man but what’s the average turn around time once you send him a can? Thanks |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/30/2020 1:14:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottsGT: I think I read he’s got about two weeks of work ahead of new work coming in the door. I try to batch the jobs for efficiency, so I'll do mount conversions when I have a half dozen or more here, but recores are far more involved and there's not really a batch efficiency component to them with each one being different, so I do them in the order they're received. |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 1:16:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Girthrockwel:
I sincerely hope he makes more money than he knows how to spend. He’s a hard working good guy. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Girthrockwel:
Originally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
Originally Posted By ScottsGT:
Originally Posted By nubs101:
I don’t want to bug Nick cause he is a busy man but what’s the average turn around time once you send him a can? Thanks |
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Posted: 1/30/2020 4:42:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: I try to turn around smaller jobs like mount conversions & barrel threading within a couple weeks, but I'm 4-6 on recores. I try to batch the jobs for efficiency, so I'll do mount conversions when I have a half dozen or more here, but recores are far more involved and there's not really a batch efficiency component to them with each one being different, so I do them in the order they're received. 
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Posted: 1/30/2020 4:58:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottsGT:
Well if the Form 1 thread on approval times tracks true, you should be getting another recore sent to you next week. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottsGT:
Originally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: I try to turn around smaller jobs like mount conversions & barrel threading within a couple weeks, but I'm 4-6 on recores. I try to batch the jobs for efficiency, so I'll do mount conversions when I have a half dozen or more here, but recores are far more involved and there's not really a batch efficiency component to them with each one being different, so I do them in the order they're received.  Attached FileWent home and drilled it that night, had it in the mail for repairs the next day 
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Posted: 1/31/2020 8:15:50 AM EDT
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From ECCO’s Facebook page yesterday:
I'm absolutely buried right now, burning the candle at both ends and still having a hard time keeping up. As such, my wife is going to be starting to help out with things on the billing, shipping and communication end so I can focus on making parts. It's going to take a little while to get her up to speed, and she's still going to have to consult me frequently to answer your questions accurately. I just ask that everyone be patient with us as she adapts & learns. She's very much a gun person and loves suppressors, but she hasn't lived and breathed the technical side of it like I do, so it's a steep learning curve for her. I just can't keep running the whole show 100% on my own. Everyone will be better off if the 2-3 hours I spend every day invoicing, billing, packaging and responding to messages were spent on making parts while she handles more of this end.
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Posted: 1/31/2020 8:20:22 AM EDT
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Good to see he's got help. I once owned a small paint and body shop and did it all. It's not fun trying to wear all the hats.
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Posted: 2/17/2020 7:10:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/17/2020 10:24:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/18/2020 9:25:21 AM EDT
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Sweet! Mine's sitting in a box in the que.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2020 11:19:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottsGT:
Sweet! Mine's sitting in a box in the que. MSUBulldog's ended up a little ahead of it's position in the queue by date because it was one of two here getting internals of that diameter & profile, and it's much more efficient to batch them together when I can than to do one and have to come back and set everything up the same way it was a week or two later. So if cans in the queue go rifle, rifle, rifle, rifle, pistol, rifle, rimfire, pistol by date, I'll do the 5 rifle critters first since they're all getting 50° baffles, then set the lathe up for 60° baffles and do the two pistol cans since one of them was next, then the rimfire. It's the same way with making solvent trap kits, doing mount conversions and threading barrels, finding an efficient balance between batching similar work and the chronological order in the queue. |
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Posted: 2/18/2020 11:42:41 AM EDT
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Just like cutting lumber! Once that saw is set up, keep working.
Funny how a cut that takes seconds can take up to an hour to make all the setups.
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Posted: 2/20/2020 10:34:46 PM EDT
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2020 10:53:38 PM EDT
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MSUbulldog21, that looks beautiful! I'm somewhere in the queue for a rebuild of an old HTG can that had a baffle strike a few years ago. Been in the safe ever since, until I found ECCO Machine here! Looking forward to it. I'll post pics once complete.
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Posted: 2/20/2020 11:07:25 PM EDT
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I’m very happy with how everything turned out except one thing, something - I’m guessing it’s the moly resin - smells terrible. I need to get some rounds through this thing quick to knock the smell off of it
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CO, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2020 12:23:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sixtysixdeuce]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MSUbulldog21:
I’m very happy with how everything turned out except one thing, something - I’m guessing it’s the moly resin - smells terrible. I need to get some rounds through this thing quick to knock the smell off of it I did put a few rounds of Fiocchi 158 gr through it to test right before packing it up to ship, so maybe it's the powder residue. I do mean right before; it was still warm when I bubble wrapped it! |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 9:15:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sixtysixdeuce: Moly resin doesn't really have an odor after curing. I did put a few rounds of Fiocchi 158 gr through it to test right before packing it up to ship, so maybe it's the powder residue. I do mean right before; it was still warm when I bubble wrapped it! 
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Posted: 2/21/2020 2:27:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HPIguy]
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Sixtysixdeuce, I sent you my contact info. A fellow member directed me over here. I'm about to start my second F1 build, and the thread said discuss with you first, so...
I know you're busy, so no huge hurry. Waiting on FD-258s to arrive in the mail anyway.
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Posted: 2/21/2020 2:37:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HPIguy:
Sixtysixdeuce, I sent you my contact info. A fellow member directed me over here. I'm about to start my second F1 build, and the thread said discuss with you first, so... I know you're busy, so no huge hurry. Waiting on FD-258s to arrive in the mail anyway.If so, the wait shouldn’t be long. I recently ordered some more after 8p on Thursday 2/13, and they were in my mailbox Tuesday 2/18. Not bad with a weekend and no mail delivery on Monday the 17th President’s Day. |
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Posted: 2/21/2020 3:37:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Did you order from the ATF? If so, the wait shouldn't be long. I recently ordered some more after 8p on Thursday 2/13, and they were in my mailbox Tuesday 2/18. Not bad with a weekend and no mail delivery on Monday the 17th President's Day. Ordered about a week before I submitted my Form 1 |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 12:48:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon:
Did you order from the ATF? If so, the wait shouldn’t be long. I recently ordered some more after 8p on Thursday 2/13, and they were in my mailbox Tuesday 2/18. Not bad with a weekend and no mail delivery on Monday the 17th President’s Day. |
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