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Posted: 1/12/2024 2:45:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: The POF "K" size does.  Cause their K uses the same receiver as the big boys. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By giantpune: Originally Posted By MagnusActual: Yes, all of your full size POFs and MKEs have them. He's referring to the K models. They do not. The POF "K" size does. Cause their K uses the same receiver as the big boys. Semantics... |
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USA
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Posted: 1/12/2024 7:10:33 PM EDT
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POF doesn't/didn't export an MP5K to the United States. They export both a standard MP5, and a weird "Reverse Stretch" model, which is a standard MP5 receiver with a "K front end".
Since the "Reverse Stretch" model uses a standard MP5 receiver, it incorporates the MP5 sling clip. |
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Posted: 1/13/2024 4:12:08 AM EDT
[#3]
ALMOST CERTAINLY MKE
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2024 12:12:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: N4KVE]
[#4]
This is the company making them. Not MKE. GARY.
https://mertsav.com.tr/en/otomatik-tabancalar/ |
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MP, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2024 9:42:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JoshNC]
[#5]
Originally Posted By N4KVE: This is the company making them. Not MKE. GARY. https://mertsav.com.tr/en/otomatik-tabancalar/ Yep. discussion about these on HK Pro. Very interesting. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/14/2024 2:03:30 PM EDT
[#6]
I assumed they were not MKE based upon the lack of MKE markings.
Big PASS. |
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Posted: 1/14/2024 7:22:30 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GaryT1776: I assumed they were not MKE based upon the lack of MKE markings. Big PASS. Lolz... okay.. |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 3:34:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDSImports: Lolz... okay.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDSImports: Originally Posted By GaryT1776: I assumed they were not MKE based upon the lack of MKE markings. Big PASS. Lolz... okay.. I would like to see what another firearms company in Turkey can do. |
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Posted: 1/17/2024 7:17:46 PM EDT
[#9]
Be interesting to compare these to Centtury’s. If they are contracted MKE with better QC I’ll get one.
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Posted: 1/17/2024 9:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frank762: I would like to see what another firearms company in Turkey can do. -A steel AR180 clone. -SPAS-12 clone -HK512 shotgun clone -Beretta 93R semi-auto clone -G3 copy in 20 gauge and or 410 -double barrel 410/45 Colt "pistol" with rifled barrel -AUTOMAG -like clone in 10mm and or 357 sig -37mm Flare gun resembling an M79 cut down like a pistol. -Dragunov Clone (in Turkey of course make it in 410 : ) -Belt fed 12 gauge upper for AR15 / AR10 -FN PS90 clone - patents should be expired. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 12:35:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HD2006]
[#11]
Got these pictures from Facebook
 
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USA
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Posted: 1/18/2024 1:09:57 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Got these pictures from Facebook https://i.imgur.com/hKPdmwo.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/ZbP3B2T.jpeg I know it’s just two pictures but honestly if those are able to come in sub $1000 street price they would be quite attractive. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 6:56:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer: I know it’s just two pictures but honestly if those are able to come in sub $1000 street price they would be quite attractive. Agreed - They know people make decisions with their eyes guiding them A few honest reviews will be helpful as with Price point. Puttering with a new gun at $1k is not fun for a new owner. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 2:28:37 PM EDT
[#14]
Sear ready?
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Posted: 1/18/2024 2:57:39 PM EDT
[#15]
Y'all are fretting about this thing before it even is out.
$1000 is a lot of money to most folks. Its chump-change to some. Let that lawyer guy who burns down shotguns have one of these to burn down. Then roast MAC if the deserve it. Or eat crow. I hope MAC has their own burn-down video. For this sort of gun, I'm not in unless I know its gonna run hot. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2024 5:46:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FAL: Sear ready? Doubt it. It looks like they have push pin lowers so they likely have the same carrier block as the MKE guns. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 8:43:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mgwantob]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Got these pictures from Facebook https://i.imgur.com/hKPdmwo.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/ZbP3B2T.jpeg These guns are definitely not MKE. Weld patterns are very different, it’s almost like these are a US clone but built in Turkey, aka Todd Bailey style. I’ll wait until they materialize on the market to pass actual judgement. |
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Posted: 1/18/2024 8:53:05 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mgwantob: These guns are definitely not MKE. Weld patterns are very different, it's almost like these are a US clone but built in Turkey, aka Todd Bailey style. I'll wait until they materialize on the market to pass actual judgement. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/18/2024 9:21:11 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By W_E_G: Y'all are fretting about this thing before it even is out. $1000 is a lot of money to most folks. Its chump-change to some. Let that lawyer guy who burns down shotguns have one of these to burn down. Then roast MAC if the deserve it. Or eat crow. I hope MAC has their own burn-down video. For this sort of gun, I'm not in unless I know its gonna run hot. Yup. I'll keep an eye on them and think about getting a K this time next year. You fellas go out and buy them right away and shoot the heck out of them and let me know how it goes. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/18/2024 9:51:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RebleYell]
[#20]
I'll be going by their booth at SHOT and I'll post about the pistols
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Posted: 1/19/2024 10:35:49 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mak0: Doubt it. It looks like they have push pin lowers so they likely have the same carrier block as the MKE guns. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mak0: Originally Posted By FAL: Sear ready? Doubt it. It looks like they have push pin lowers so they likely have the same carrier block as the MKE guns. |
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Posted: 1/19/2024 10:38:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: W_E_G]
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Posted: 1/19/2024 1:24:55 PM EDT
[#23]
Can't wait for reviews!
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MP, USA
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:01:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JoshNC]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mgwantob: it’s almost like these are a US clone but built in Turkey, aka Todd Bailey style. I’ll wait until they materialize on the market to pass actual judgement. The receivers do have that not-made-to-HK-spec look to them. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/21/2024 6:10:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Stahlgewehr762]
[#25]
The magazine catch on both of the (hand-picked?) examples pictured above looks H&K-level perfect. It is properly located on the receiver (it is vertically aligned in the little "C" shaped receiver cut out in front of the mag catch), and there aren't large gaps between the receiver and the top/bottom of the mag catch.
This is a significant improvement over many MKE products I've examined, just at first glance. If they can consistently produce these MP5 pistols without the myriad of quality issues which plague the MKE line, they will have a winner. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 5:01:05 AM EDT
[#26]
@obey
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USA
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Posted: 1/23/2024 7:29:36 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Stahlgewehr762: This is a significant improvement over many MKE products I've examined, just at first glance. I’ve noticed and been annoyed MKE can’t get their mag catches straight too (and sometimes cocking tubes sights, etc), so much for HK tooling, data package, etc. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 8:41:33 AM EDT
[#28]
I would have thought they'd have some range day footage from SHOT. Did they have a presence there?
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Posted: 1/23/2024 10:01:59 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov: I would have thought they'd have some range day footage from SHOT. Did they have a presence there? Can't speak on their MP5, but I did see a gun tuber shooting their double stack 2011. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2024 12:22:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Evintos]
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Posted: 1/23/2024 12:29:13 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryHopefully YT reviews will be dropping soon. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 12:36:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryThe black tape over the spine engravings, LOL. 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2024 12:59:26 PM EDT
[#33]
I noticed that the MAC-5 has a button rifled barrel and the MKE/Century has a CHF barrel.
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:16:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CKxx]
[#34]
It's a shame they were able to obtain the MAC name.
Springfield Armory, round 2. Interesting import though. |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:19:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bulletboy5150]
[#35]
My guess is these will be a little cheaper than the AP5's. Why else go through the trouble of importing them when AP5's are already easy to get?
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:26:02 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xM16a1x: I noticed that the MAC-5 has a button rifled barrel and the MKE/Century has a CHF barrel. What indicates that? |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2024 1:37:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xM16a1x]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0351: What indicates that? *It's under "additional information.*  |
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:17:38 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xM16a1x: It says it on MAC's website that they are. *It's under "additional information.* https://i.imgur.com/3ljlW3h.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xM16a1x: Originally Posted By 0351: What indicates that? *It's under "additional information.* https://i.imgur.com/3ljlW3h.jpg Ah. I looked on the Mertsaw site and it noted optional CHF or Button. Good to know. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2024 4:57:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xM16a1x]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0351: Ah. I looked on the Mertsaw site and it noted optional CHF or Button. Good to know. If these would have been CHF barrels and better QC than MKE, that may have swayed me towards the MAC version. I'm just waiting it out till more info comes forward. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2024 6:34:02 PM EDT
[#40]
 Affordable MP5 Clones! -- SHOT Show 2024 |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 11:40:38 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryThings look "pretty straight."
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Posted: 1/24/2024 11:42:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lil_Sig]
[#42]
Quote HistoryIt sure sounds like they are being built for Military Armament Corp by MKE. Then marketed as Military Armament Corp guns. |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 12:37:51 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lil_Sig: It sure sounds like they are being built for Military Armament Corp by MKE. Then marketed as Military Armament Corp guns. |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 10:06:25 AM EDT
[#44]
I justed looked at one yesterday the welds were great and the cocking tube and triple frame straight. Mag fit was very good and the action was fine. The high gloss gloss finish looked pretty good too.
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Posted: 1/25/2024 10:19:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dump1567]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: My brother in Christ read the thread. They're made by Mertsav, not MKE. What's the history of Mertsav? HK licensing and machinery? Forget it. I just watched the video, and they claim HK tooling. |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 6:01:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lil_Sig]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0351: Ah. I looked on the Mertsaw site and it noted optional CHF or Button. Good to know. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0351: Originally Posted By xM16a1x: Originally Posted By 0351: What indicates that? *It's under "additional information.* https://i.imgur.com/3ljlW3h.jpg Ah. I looked on the Mertsaw site and it noted optional CHF or Button. Good to know. Good to know, Yes. However they are importing the budget ones with button rifling to compete with the bigger guy MKE. Mertsav is reportedly MKE's biggest Sub Contractor. However you will get all of the extras they charge extra for to get with the MKE. So thats all included at $1,099.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 7:59:30 PM EDT
[#47]
It will be interesting to see what the street price is SDS / MAC has had some decent priced guns below their MSRP last year.
At shot they also announced Inglis old new "brand" for imported Browning HP at $490 MSRP I would be interested to see those as well. |
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Posted: 1/25/2024 8:20:49 PM EDT
[#48]
They do look nice from the videos. I guess we’ll know more when they hit the streets.
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Posted: 1/26/2024 1:39:05 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: My brother in Christ read the thread. They're made by Mertsav, not MKE. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man: Originally Posted By lil_Sig: It sure sounds like they are being built for Military Armament Corp by MKE. Then marketed as Military Armament Corp guns. Thanks, I can be dense. |
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Posted: 1/26/2024 5:12:02 PM EDT
[#50]
For say, 900 bucks I'd try out a full size to match my MKE K.
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