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Posted: 3/20/2024 2:47:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: djkest]
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They are de facto banning Suppressors by making host firearms illegal to own.
Banning all rifles and pistols with threaded barrels... Gotta keep those deadly flash hiders and barrel shrouds out of the state. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 2:50:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: They are de facto banning Suppressors by making host firearms illegal to own. Banning all rifles and pistols with threaded barrels... Gotta keep those deadly flash hiders and barrel shrouds out of the state. Yep. Basically. But from what I read in this, there is nothing specifically withdrawing CO from the NFA. I have a Turbo K on the way. I'm worried its under threat. I hope it clears very fast for me. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 2:52:13 PM EDT
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Also I'm extremely worried about my registered SBR's.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 2:53:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: I guess there would also be nothing stopping you from driving to say: Wyoming, Utah, or Nebraska and selling them there? From my understanding, yes. They can be sold out of state, but not out of state to another Coloradoan. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 2:54:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Also I'm extremely worried about my registered SBR's. You should be worried, but I don't see anything specific to NFA items in this bill. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 2:57:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: You should be worried, but I don't see anything specific to NFA items in this bill. (XIII) ANY PART OR COMBINATION OF PARTS DESIGNED OR 10 INTENDED TO CONVERT A FIREARM INTO AN ASSAULT WEAPON AS DEFINED 11 IN THIS SUBSECTION (2). This item is my major stress point. Any part? So all flash hiders, compensators, uhh, stocks? Trigger parts? Barrels? Bro. I think this is doom. and im not being hyperbolic. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 3:00:59 PM EDT
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(a) ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SELF DEFENSE
That'll be news for cops. And SWAT. (b) THE FIREARMS INDUSTRY HAS SPECIFICALLY MARKETED 19 ASSAULT WEAPONS AS TACTICAL, HYPER MASCULINE, AND MILITARY 20 STYLE IN A MANNER THAT OVERTLY APPEALS TO THE VERY PEOPLE MOST 21 LIKELY TO ACQUIRE SUCH WEAPONS AS A MEANS TO GAIN INFAMY AS A 22 MASS SHOOTER; How fucking offensive is that little blurb? You can practically hear the liberal middle aged woman sneer while writing that. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 3:03:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pestilence12]
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Also re-read the entire thing. Not one word about grandfathering. This kills sales, not sure about possession. I'm not sure where they're saying it grandfathers shit.
I know it was said in committee, but a lot of things were said. If it's not in the bill, it doesn't exist. ETA reread it again. Nothing about grandfathering or current possesion. It is just "A 16 BAN ON KNOWINGLY MANUFACTURING, IMPORTING, PURCHASING, SELLING, 17 OFFERING TO SELL, OR TRANSFERRING OWNERSHIP OF AN ASSAULT 18 WEAPON, CAUSING THE MANUFACTURE, IMPORTATION, PURCHASE, SALE, 19 OFFER TO SELL, OR TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP OF ASSAULT WEAPONS IN 20 COLORADO IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS AND GUESTS OF 21 OUR GREAT STATE." |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 3:06:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: You should be worried, but I don't see anything specific to NFA items in this bill. NFA doesn't matter in this case, the bill currently defines "assault weapon" as any semi-automatic weapon as well as any parts to assemble a semi-automatic weapon - Yes even your semi-auto waterfowl shotgun pinned to 2 is an assault weapon Luckily my .460 S&W is safe and non-assaulty but due to the "sensitive places" ccw restriction bill I can't carry it most places in the city to fend of crackheads  The bill text is here, everyone should read it to see and understand the lunacy the dems are trying to sign into law |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 3:09:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: (a) ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SELF DEFENSE That'll be news for cops. And SWAT. (b) THE FIREARMS INDUSTRY HAS SPECIFICALLY MARKETED 19 ASSAULT WEAPONS AS TACTICAL, HYPER MASCULINE, AND MILITARY 20 STYLE IN A MANNER THAT OVERTLY APPEALS TO THE VERY PEOPLE MOST 21 LIKELY TO ACQUIRE SUCH WEAPONS AS A MEANS TO GAIN INFAMY AS A 22 MASS SHOOTER; How fucking offensive is that little blurb? You can practically hear the liberal middle aged woman sneer while writing that. Yeah I don't see how that can be included in a bill. Does the governor have a line-item Veto? Could the CO supreme court determine this law to be unconstitutional? |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 3:12:54 PM EDT
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Ugh, this is just terrible:
) ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SELF DEFENSE AND 16 ARE NOT WELL-SUITED FOR HUNTING, SPORTING, OR ANY PURPOSE OTHER 17 THAN MASS KILLING; Well that's funny. I've never killed anyone or anything. I must be using them wrong? There is no reason why they couldn't be "well suited" for hunting or "sporting" whatever that means. Target shooting? 3-gun competition? AR-15 not suitable for self-defense yet every SWAT and tactical unit as well as many Game Wardens and Park Rangers have one. Page 4, section 2c: (c) IT IS CRITICAL TO LIMIT THE PROSPECTIVE SALE OF ASSAULT 24 WEAPONS AND ACCESSORIES, WHILE PERMITTING EXISTING LEGAL OWNERS 25 TO RETAIN THE ASSAULT WEAPONS THEY CURRENTLY OWN |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 3:23:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: Ugh, this is just terrible: ) ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SELF DEFENSE AND 16 ARE NOT WELL-SUITED FOR HUNTING, SPORTING, OR ANY PURPOSE OTHER 17 THAN MASS KILLING; Well that's funny. I've never killed anyone or anything. I must be using them wrong? There is no reason why they couldn't be "well suited" for hunting or "sporting" whatever that means. Target shooting? 3-gun competition? AR-15 not suitable for self-defense yet every SWAT and tactical unit as well as many Game Wardens and Park Rangers have one. Page 4, section 2c: (c) IT IS CRITICAL TO LIMIT THE PROSPECTIVE SALE OF ASSAULT 24 WEAPONS AND ACCESSORIES, WHILE PERMITTING EXISTING LEGAL OWNERS 25 TO RETAIN THE ASSAULT WEAPONS THEY CURRENTLY OWN Nice grab. I missed that. But yeah its just sales at this point. I must be using all of mine wrong too. What they fail to answer is, the 2nd amendment doesn't say "the right to keep and bear arms to hunt deer or whatever else liberals haven't banned hunting on". That lady who was BEGGING the assembly to "regulate us more", she has to be a plant. She has to be. I doubt she owns a single gun. I hope she COC's herself for that incredibly disgusting testimony. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 3:26:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: Could the CO supreme court determine this law to be unconstitutional? Man I'd say yes, but the CO supreme court was the one that said "ope, nope, Trump can't be on the ballot because iNsUrReCtIoN". 
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Posted: 3/20/2024 3:57:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: They are de facto banning Suppressors by making host firearms illegal to own. Banning all rifles and pistols with threaded barrels... Gotta keep those deadly flash hiders and barrel shrouds out of the state. Bolt action rifle with a threaded barrel? |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:00:58 PM EDT
[#15]
"Possession" is only mentioned for rapid fire triggers. Still BS.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:03:20 PM EDT
[#16]
Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: Bolt action rifle with a threaded barrel? Nope, just semi autos. Gotta keep the hunting lobby happy. Originally Posted By uncle_big_green: "Possession" is only mentioned for rapid fire triggers. Still BS. Yup. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:09:06 PM EDT
[#17]
The amendments haven’t made it to the text of the bill yet. I think they’ll be in the text as introduced to the house.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:29:10 PM EDT
[#18]
Sickening.
Does anyone know where the best price is on a binary trigger for a MP5 clone? |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:32:31 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AstraPat: Sickening. Does anyone know where the best price is on a binary trigger for a MP5 clone? Just an FYI, though im sure you know this by now, this bill does outline possession of trigger devices. That being said. Maybe give USA Liberty Arms in Fort Collins a call. They carry Franklin stuff. |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:34:40 PM EDT
[#20]
Says "ASSAULT WEAPONS HAVE NO SELF DEFENSE PURPOSE.".
Sends illegal immigrants in large quantities with government issued guns . to shoot at you in your own home for disobeying an unconstitutional law. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:41:45 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Just an FYI, though im sure you know this by now, this bill does outline possession of trigger devices. That being said. Maybe give USA Liberty Arms in Fort Collins a call. They carry Franklin stuff. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Originally Posted By AstraPat: Sickening. Does anyone know where the best price is on a binary trigger for a MP5 clone? Just an FYI, though im sure you know this by now, this bill does outline possession of trigger devices. That being said. Maybe give USA Liberty Arms in Fort Collins a call. They carry Franklin stuff. Well aware. Will do, thanks. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:46:28 PM EDT
[#22]
This is crazy.
Pistol - OK for self defense Pistol with threaded barrel - no self-defense purpose What's wild is: The VAST majority of handguns involved in "gun violence" do not have threaded barrels The VAST majority of firearms used in "gun violence" would not be classified as "Assault Weapons" |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:55:58 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: This is crazy. Pistol - OK for self defense Pistol with threaded barrel - no self-defense purpose What's wild is: The VAST majority of handguns involved in "gun violence" do not have threaded barrels The VAST majority of firearms used in "gun violence" would not be classified as "Assault Weapons" I know you know they know that  This isn't about that one iota.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 4:56:40 PM EDT
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if you're expecting the commi-leftists to make sense you have a long, looooooooooooooong wait in store as they operate purely on equal parts emotion and hive mind
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:12:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNShewter: Nope, Bacon. She showed as much blatant disregard and disdain for the comments in opposition to the bill as she possibly could. I wanted to shut the feed off so badly multiple times but I listened so I could witness their treachery. Hardly slept and had to get up early. Pretty damn pissed this morning. My wife and her family are all joking about ranches in TX but I can’t make lighthearted use of myself at all. I need a long walk.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MTNShewter: Originally Posted By saigamanTX: Originally Posted By MTNShewter: They changed the punishment to a petty crime, in an amendment passed with the same 7-3 vote around 11:00 last night. The vice chair's rant just prior to the committee's final vote was particularly disgusting. She's got major personal issues. Nope, Bacon. She showed as much blatant disregard and disdain for the comments in opposition to the bill as she possibly could. I wanted to shut the feed off so badly multiple times but I listened so I could witness their treachery. Hardly slept and had to get up early. Pretty damn pissed this morning. My wife and her family are all joking about ranches in TX but I can’t make lighthearted use of myself at all. I need a long walk. Land up south of Laramie, WY can be had for $5k/acre. I'm going to try to buy the bare minimum for a well and get building a retirement home. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:18:27 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: Land up south of Laramie, WY can be had for $5k/acre. I'm going to try to buy the bare minimum for a well and get building a retirement home. I drive through that every week to get groceries (I shop in Wyoming to not pay the absolutely fucked taxes in Colorado, and it's the same distance for shopping in Laramie as it is to Fort Collins either way). That land is...barren, man. Windswept high plains desert. That's why its 5k/acre. Its not a pleasant place to live at all. I assume you're talking about the Tie Siding/Buttes area. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:18:51 PM EDT
[#27]
On the positive side, there's no way this passes muster at the supreme court. But it will take awhile for it to get there. Hopefully the balance doesn't shift before then.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:21:47 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SullanMarch: On the positive side, there's no way this passes muster at the supreme court. But it will take awhile for it to get there. Hopefully the balance doesn't shift before then. SCOTUS has punted on every single AWB pushed to them. SCOCO is a communist-socialist-infested rat hole. I have little hope. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:25:55 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Also re-read the entire thing. Not one word about grandfathering. This kills sales, not sure about possession. I'm not sure where they're saying it grandfathers shit. I know it was said in committee, but a lot of things were said. If it's not in the bill, it doesn't exist. ETA reread it again. Nothing about grandfathering or current possesion. It is just "A 16 BAN ON KNOWINGLY MANUFACTURING, IMPORTING, PURCHASING, SELLING, 17 OFFERING TO SELL, OR TRANSFERRING OWNERSHIP OF AN ASSAULT 18 WEAPON, CAUSING THE MANUFACTURE, IMPORTATION, PURCHASE, SALE, 19 OFFER TO SELL, OR TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP OF ASSAULT WEAPONS IN 20 COLORADO IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS AND GUESTS OF 21 OUR GREAT STATE." They passed an ammendment last night allowing grandfathering to your Heir. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:27:51 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: SCOTUS has punted on every single AWB pushed to them. SCOCO is a communist-socialist-infested rat hole. I have little hope. All of the AWBs are clearly in violation of Bruen though. I think SCOTUS is giving the lower courts a chance to do the right thing and apply Bruen themselves, since that's not their job. If they refuse to, SCOTUS can still step in. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:48:31 PM EDT
[#31]
Even then, Illegal laws would still be on the books until SOME court overturns it, right?
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:52:37 PM EDT
[#32]
I think if the state wants to force the issue, yeah. RMGO has allegedly been preparing a lawsuit for some time anticipating this will pass. But idk details.
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:55:07 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Man I'd say yes, but the CO supreme court was the one that said "ope, nope, Trump can't be on the ballot because iNsUrReCtIoN". Sue in federal court. Not state. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 5:58:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tripleoption]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Also re-read the entire thing. Not one word about grandfathering. This kills sales, not sure about possession. I'm not sure where they're saying it grandfathers shit. I know it was said in committee, but a lot of things were said. If it's not in the bill, it doesn't exist. ETA reread it again. Nothing about grandfathering or current possesion. It is just "A 16 BAN ON KNOWINGLY MANUFACTURING, IMPORTING, PURCHASING, SELLING, 17 OFFERING TO SELL, OR TRANSFERRING OWNERSHIP OF AN ASSAULT 18 WEAPON, CAUSING THE MANUFACTURE, IMPORTATION, PURCHASE, SALE, 19 OFFER TO SELL, OR TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP OF ASSAULT WEAPONS IN 20 COLORADO IS IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF THE CITIZENS AND GUESTS OF 21 OUR GREAT STATE." I think this is the thing here, killing sales. It's been said a lot over the years on this site that the left is good at playing the long game, and they will do things like this. This is speculation on my part, but they can easily say "We're letting you keep what you have, and even give them to heirs. You don't have to register them either. We're just banning sales, so we're letting you keep and bear arms, just like the 2nd says." This is exactly how the liberals I know think. People play word games, and twist things however they can to justify things. This is a step by step process. In time, registration will be mandated, then confiscation and criminalization. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 6:14:22 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tripleoption: I think this is the thing here, killing sales. It's been said a lot over the years on this site that the left is good at playing the long game, and they will do things like this. This is speculation on my part, but they can easily say "We're letting you keep what you have, and even give them to heirs. You don't have to register them either. We're just banning sales, so we're letting you keep and bear arms, just like the 2nd says." This is exactly how the liberals I know think. People play word games, and twist things however they can to justify things. This is a step by step process. In time, registration will be mandated, then confiscation and criminalization. And it will be easy for them to make the argument: We did this, and we still have violence. Better do more. Instead of recognizing the fact that what they did in the first place didn't help the problem. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 6:24:46 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By djkest: And it will be easy for them to make the argument: We did this, and we still have violence. Better do more. Instead of recognizing the fact that what they did in the first place didn't help the problem. Oh the sponsor of this bill, Elizabeth Epps, is certainly doing something:  Attached File Attached FileFounder of the Colorado Freedom Fund, full-fledged member of the DSA... She's helping, just in the classic communist-socialist way. By sabotaging every effort that is good and just. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 6:26:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: stiglitz_actual]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Oh the sponsor of this bill, Elizabeth Epps, is certainly doing something: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2024-03-20_at_14-05-05_Elisab-3164655.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32274/Screenshot_2024-03-20_at_14-06-22_Democr-3164656.JPG Founder of the Colorado Freedom Fund, full-fledged member of the DSA... She's helping, just in the classic communist-socialist way. By sabotaging every effort that is good and just. The other sponsor, Hernandez, is also a democratic socialist party member - and a hamas supporter and "activist" in Denver Also he wasn't elected, his dsa buddy gave up the office and nominated him for the position and he was appointed by a dem committee Hernandez openly thanked the brady campaign and moms demand action antigun groups after testimonies last night |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 6:38:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pestilence12]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stiglitz_actual: The other sponsor, Hernandez, is also a democratic socialist party member - and a hamas supporter and "activist" in Denver Also he wasn't elected, his dsa buddy gave up the office and nominated him for the position and he was appointed by a dem committee Hernandez openly thanked the brady campaign and moms demand action antigun groups after testimonies last night Yup. Epps got the seat after redistricting. She is a full fledged, unabashed communist. I just read through her website. Every single thing on there is espousing communist ideals. She is a far-left wing radical. She is a traitor to the United States. She is racist, classist, and sexist. Absolutely vile person. Vile. ETA yeah, epps is also a Moms demand action member. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 7:34:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PointBlank82]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: I drive through that every week to get groceries (I shop in Wyoming to not pay the absolutely fucked taxes in Colorado, and it's the same distance for shopping in Laramie as it is to Fort Collins either way). That land is...barren, man. Windswept high plains desert. That's why its 5k/acre. Its not a pleasant place to live at all. I assume you're talking about the Tie Siding/Buttes area. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Originally Posted By PointBlank82: Land up south of Laramie, WY can be had for $5k/acre. I'm going to try to buy the bare minimum for a well and get building a retirement home. I drive through that every week to get groceries (I shop in Wyoming to not pay the absolutely fucked taxes in Colorado, and it's the same distance for shopping in Laramie as it is to Fort Collins either way). That land is...barren, man. Windswept high plains desert. That's why its 5k/acre. Its not a pleasant place to live at all. I assume you're talking about the Tie Siding/Buttes area. Was thinking further southwest towards Centennial/Sheep Mountain actually. Those taxes are going to flip soon. Wyoming us trying to pass a sales tax increase and eliminate property taxes... $1MM Gets you something like this house on 39 acres Same money, further west near Trees.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 7:49:45 PM EDT
[#40]
Anyone know where this pos bill heads next? House? Senate?
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Posted: 3/20/2024 7:51:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Some vet in support cuz he used it in war and its a war weapon and people don't need it here. And how, exactly, are the citizens to inflict maximum "protest" against tyrants? I suggest it is with the best, highest capacity, most efficient method of registering one's dissatisfaction. I think a "war weapon" is the ticket. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 7:52:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: "Lethality, speed, this bill would prevent that because you have to reload more and there aren't as many bullets to shoot." Some people are just dumber than shit. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 7:56:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pestilence12: ... law-abiding citizens ..." People need to stop with this shit. Do not call me a fucking law-abiding citizen. With what other rights do we use this stupid phrase? Law-abiding speakers? Law-abiding practitioners of religion? To differentiate from what? Bullshit. I am a gun owner, a citizen. End of story. |
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Posted: 3/20/2024 9:39:07 PM EDT
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I moved out just in time. Got this T-Shirt a few years ago at a local match, how fitting of the current climate
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Posted: 3/20/2024 10:19:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: uncle_big_green]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lexington: People need to stop with this shit. Do not call me a fucking law-abiding citizen. With what other rights do we use this stupid phrase? Law-abiding speakers? Law-abiding practitioners of religion? To differentiate from what? Bullshit. I am a gun owner, a citizen. End of story. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lexington: Originally Posted By pestilence12: ... law-abiding citizens ..." People need to stop with this shit. Do not call me a fucking law-abiding citizen. With what other rights do we use this stupid phrase? Law-abiding speakers? Law-abiding practitioners of religion? To differentiate from what? Bullshit. I am a gun owner, a citizen. End of story. Agree. I am a peaceful person. That has little to nothing to do with being "law-abiding." The people who hid Anne Frank were not "law-abiding" and they should be commended for it. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 1:08:12 PM EDT
[#46]
Everything that's wrong with this state is the fault of the Liberal Progressive social experiment.
Remember - it's not an accident. These are smart people executing a smart plan - to stop leading and start ruling. It's just hard for us to understand because we aren't evil. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 1:47:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: uncle_big_green]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vectorsc: Everything that's wrong with this state is the fault of the Liberal Progressive social experiment. Remember - it's not an accident. These are smart people executing a smart plan - to stop leading and start ruling. It's just hard for us to understand because we aren't evil. Not quite. When this state was more purple 12-14 years ago, the Rs picked stupid hills on which to die (we all know what they were). That turned-off many unaffiliated voters. That needs to be owned. I was very involved in my county's R Party and correctly warned them, but the RINO-theocrat echo chamber didn't want to hear from someone who is consistent on issues of liberty. In the meantime, this state became further infested while the CO GOP became more disfunctional. Now here we are.
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Posted: 3/21/2024 2:25:31 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Not quite. When this state was more purple 12-14 years ago, the Rs picked stupid hills on which to die (we all know what they were). That turned-off many unaffiliated voters. That needs to be owned. I was very involved in my county's R Party and correctly warned them, but the RINO-theocrat echo chamber didn't want to hear from someone who is consistent on issues of liberty. In the meantime, this state became further infested while the CO GOP became more disfunctional. Now here we are. |
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Posted: 3/21/2024 3:37:35 PM EDT
[#49]
 I Testified Against the Assault Weapons Ban Thank you Brandon |
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USA
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Posted: 3/21/2024 3:40:39 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uncle_big_green: Not quite. When this state was more purple 12-14 years ago, the Rs picked stupid hills on which to die (we all know what they were). That turned-off many unaffiliated voters. That needs to be owned. I was very involved in my county's R Party and correctly warned them, but the RINO-theocrat echo chamber didn't want to hear from someone who is consistent on issues of liberty. In the meantime, this state became further infested while the CO GOP became more disfunctional. Now here we are. What hills did they choose to die on? I'm new to the state and learning the lay of the political landscape. |
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