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Link Posted: 4/12/2024 2:13:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MTNShewter:


I came to say this EXACT fucking thing.  What a screeching moron.
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I would have muted her mic.

Toys? These are not toys you dumb fucking cunt. These are something guaranteed under the constitution of our fucking country!


Link Posted: 4/12/2024 2:14:01 PM EDT
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How dare she use the lords name.

Fucking socialist scum.
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 2:17:22 PM EDT
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LMFAO SHE SCOLDS HIM TO STAY ON THE TOPIC (AND MENTIONED THE OFFERED "LATITUDE" TO THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER), RIGHT AFTER EPPS GOES ON HER LITTLE CUNTING TIRADE.

I cant do this anymore. Fuck it. I don't care. I hope they pass it and so much more. Let's get this party started.

She's laughing at him.
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 2:19:57 PM EDT
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https://leg.colorado.gov/legislators/elisabeth-epps

This was the screeching cunt that spoke before.
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 2:22:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By saigamanTX:
https://leg.colorado.gov/legislators/elisabeth-epps

This was the screeching cunt that spoke before.
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Oh I know exactly who this is. The fucking socialist-marxist who got shoe-horned in on a redistrict.

She is a piece of shit, a waste of carbon and air. I hope she becomes a good little communist.
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 2:34:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pestilence12:


Whatever cunt is talking right now, this screeching Mom-demands-action wench...

Its not a toy.

Its a RIGHT. What is so difficult to understand about that. What speed you drive your car at is irrelevant.

It DOES punish the law-abiding.
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That was Epps again.  She’s not fucking around.  “Our side” is making too much common sense.  We need to match the emotional level to have any effect.  I have no fucking clue what to recommend as far as that goes, but making the same arguments against this as have been used for decades will get us where we’ve been getting all those decades.  Behind.  This thing is over as far as I can tell.  No one wants to be on Epps PMS shitlist for the rest of their political career in this state.  Lord help us.
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 2:39:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MTNShewter:


That was Epps again.  She’s not fucking around.  “Our side” is making too much common sense.  We need to match the emotional level to have any effect.  I have no fucking clue what to recommend as far as that goes, but making the same arguments against this as have been used for decades will get us where we’ve been getting all those decades.  Behind.  This thing is over as far as I can tell.  No one wants to be on Epps PMS shitlist for the rest of their political career in this state.  Lord help us.
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She's not gonna let this fail twice. It is a de facto ban, just like the bill from last year, just worded different.

I think this goose is cooked.
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 3:33:09 PM EDT
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Anyone else had their audio cut out?
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 3:47:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pestilence12:


She's not gonna let this fail twice. It is a de facto ban, just like the bill from last year, just worded different.

I think this goose is cooked.
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Originally Posted By pestilence12:
Originally Posted By MTNShewter:


That was Epps again.  She’s not fucking around.  “Our side” is making too much common sense.  We need to match the emotional level to have any effect.  I have no fucking clue what to recommend as far as that goes, but making the same arguments against this as have been used for decades will get us where we’ve been getting all those decades.  Behind.  This thing is over as far as I can tell.  No one wants to be on Epps PMS shitlist for the rest of their political career in this state.  Lord help us.


She's not gonna let this fail twice. It is a de facto ban, just like the bill from last year, just worded different.

I think this goose is cooked.


If you don't have your stash in order, better get going. Won't be long before the LGS are inundated with out of state FFL transfers (let alone individuals) and stop accepting them. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Get your orders in NOW.
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 4:04:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Won't be long before the LGS are inundated with out of state FFL transfers (let alone individuals) and stop accepting them.
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on that point, while I normally like to support the smaller business owners there's a good chance that some/many of them may buckle under these new rules so don't forget that when an FFL closes, they turn over their books to ATF
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 4:33:53 PM EDT
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That was fast.  How do they actually vote?

ETA:  i listened for about the past three hours.  I think I missed the voting on amendments while I was filling out a 4473 (yay), and I nearly missed their actual vote, it happened that fast.  Pretty sure this shit just passed the house.
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 4:47:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TrailFork:


on that point, while I normally like to support the smaller business owners there's a good chance that some/many of them may buckle under these new rules so don't forget that when an FFL closes, they turn over their books to ATF
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ATF can have my paperwork.  They already have plenty as it is anyway.  Fuck them.  I’ll support the little guy till they lock the front door.
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 5:03:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MTNShewter:
That was fast.  How do they actually vote?

ETA:  i listened for about the past three hours.  I think I missed the voting on amendments while I was filling out a 4473 (yay), and I nearly missed their actual vote, it happened that fast.  Pretty sure this shit just passed the house.
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Attachment Attached File


https://twitter.com/RMGOColorado/status/1778884625290739988?t=gG1Ss1WeUv0Vz1NJwYqrSQ&s=19
Link Posted: 4/12/2024 5:18:42 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/12/2024 6:10:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MTNShewter:


ATF can have my paperwork.  They already have plenty as it is anyway.  Fuck them.
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I'm with you there;  people worry about "being put on a list" .... hell I'm already on so many lists I simply don't care anymore.
Link Posted: 4/13/2024 1:01:14 AM EDT
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Soooo?   They gonna tyrant?
Link Posted: 4/13/2024 2:20:17 AM EDT
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Soooo?   They gonna tyrant?
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I believe it still has the Senate (almost certain to pass there), then Polis. Does Polis veto it to larp as a moderate or sign it? Find out next time on
Link Posted: 4/13/2024 8:15:05 AM EDT
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It's now been amended to a 750.00 fine per offense.

This is also where we need to be focusing

The bill has its largest hurdles in front of it. If it passes the House, it will head to the more moderate Senate, where it is sponsored by Sen. Julie Gonzales, a Denver Democrat. Gov. Jared Polis, a Democrat, has expressed skepticism about an assault weapons ban, and it is unclear if he would sign such a bill into law. Gun rights groups will almost certainly mount a legal challenge to the measure if it is enacted.

Link Posted: 4/13/2024 8:15:07 AM EDT
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Yeah I watched this unfold. I'm lucky in that being in a rural area, both my Senator and Rep are staunch 2A supporters.

Its the front range we can't outvote, so if they want to come tangle with a buncha country good ole boys, stack up mofos.
Link Posted: 4/13/2024 10:07:14 AM EDT
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Wow,

They stuffed in an entire "Study mass shootings task force" into it, comprised of "victims, and students, and psychologists, and lawyers"

Yeah this is setting us up to get further fucked in the future.

Link Posted: 4/13/2024 8:18:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SSVGroupCoach:
Yeah I watched this unfold. I'm lucky in that being in a rural area, both my Senator and Rep are staunch 2A supporters.

Its the front range we can't outvote, so if they want to come tangle with a buncha country good ole boys, stack up mofos.
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You've got a good sheriff and undersheriff.  Just like most rural sheriffs.  Ty is awesome and I know he did everything he could.  

Denver and Boulder can get fucked.  This will not stand any federal legal challenge.  Obviously, after the Trump case, the Colorado Supremes are untrammeled by any notions of impartiality or fairness.
Link Posted: 4/13/2024 9:31:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mcculver5:



You've got a good sheriff and undersheriff.  Just like most rural sheriffs.  Ty is awesome and I know he did everything he could.  

Denver and Boulder can get fucked.  This will not stand any federal legal challenge.  Obviously, after the Trump case, the Colorado Supremes are untrammeled by any notions of impartiality or fairness.
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Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By SSVGroupCoach:
Yeah I watched this unfold. I'm lucky in that being in a rural area, both my Senator and Rep are staunch 2A supporters.

Its the front range we can't outvote, so if they want to come tangle with a buncha country good ole boys, stack up mofos.



You've got a good sheriff and undersheriff.  Just like most rural sheriffs.  Ty is awesome and I know he did everything he could.  

Denver and Boulder can get fucked.  This will not stand any federal legal challenge.  Obviously, after the Trump case, the Colorado Supremes are untrammeled by any notions of impartiality or fairness.


That a negative, the CBI Ghestapo Act passed as well. They're gonna go after alot of gun stores that aren't complying with state law.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 9:02:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:


That a negative, the CBI Ghestapo Act passed as well. They're gonna go after alot of gun stores that aren't complying with state law.
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By SSVGroupCoach:
Yeah I watched this unfold. I'm lucky in that being in a rural area, both my Senator and Rep are staunch 2A supporters.

Its the front range we can't outvote, so if they want to come tangle with a buncha country good ole boys, stack up mofos.



You've got a good sheriff and undersheriff.  Just like most rural sheriffs.  Ty is awesome and I know he did everything he could.  

Denver and Boulder can get fucked.  This will not stand any federal legal challenge.  Obviously, after the Trump case, the Colorado Supremes are untrammeled by any notions of impartiality or fairness.


That a negative, the CBI Ghestapo Act passed as well. They're gonna go after alot of gun stores that aren't complying with state law.


Well, I personally know all three people, but I understand your point.  
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 10:03:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By mcculver5:


Well, I personally know all three people, but I understand your point.  
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Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By SSVGroupCoach:
Yeah I watched this unfold. I'm lucky in that being in a rural area, both my Senator and Rep are staunch 2A supporters.

Its the front range we can't outvote, so if they want to come tangle with a buncha country good ole boys, stack up mofos.



You've got a good sheriff and undersheriff.  Just like most rural sheriffs.  Ty is awesome and I know he did everything he could.  

Denver and Boulder can get fucked.  This will not stand any federal legal challenge.  Obviously, after the Trump case, the Colorado Supremes are untrammeled by any notions of impartiality or fairness.


That a negative, the CBI Ghestapo Act passed as well. They're gonna go after alot of gun stores that aren't complying with state law.


Well, I personally know all three people, but I understand your point.  


Doesn't matter if you know them. The new law as proposed grants the CBI the authority to bypass the local sheriff and directly go after anyone breaking state firearm laws. There has been some handwaving amendments added that they will have to somehow notify local LEO's, but we know where this is going and there is going to be secret investigations, red flags and anything else they can get away with as the CBI gets more funding and political cover.

The bill requires the bureau to communicate with the appropriate local law enforcement agency and deconflict investigative operations prior to taking investigative or enforcement action and to collaborate with the local district attorney in the beginning stages of the investigation.


https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/sb24-003

Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Colorado:
2 SECTION 1. Legislative intent - legislative findings. (1) It is
3 the intent of the general assembly that the Colorado bureau of
4 investigation investigate:
5 (a) Egregious attempts to purchase firearms by previously
6 convicted felons who are identified through the Instacheck unit denial process;
7 (b) Unlawful activity involving illegal firearm components and
8 accessories
; and
9 (c) Tips and information relating to firearms violations as they are
10 received, specifically focusing on straw purchases and personally
11 manufactured firearms, commonly known as ghost guns.

12 (2) (a) The general assembly finds that the Colorado bureau of
13 investigation has operated in partnership with local law enforcement
14 agencies on criminal investigations and that the bureau maintains a robust
15 operating directive that outlines how investigators will, as soon as
16 practicable after an investigation begins, communicate with local law
17 enforcement agencies to determine the nature and extent of a
18 firearm-related investigation.
19 (b) The general assembly intends that the Colorado bureau of
20 investigation communicate with local law enforcement and the local
21 district attorney in the jurisdiction where the bureau is conducting a

Link Posted: 4/14/2024 10:04:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:


That a negative, the CBI Ghestapo Act passed as well. They're gonna go after alot of gun stores that aren't complying with state law.
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By SSVGroupCoach:
Yeah I watched this unfold. I'm lucky in that being in a rural area, both my Senator and Rep are staunch 2A supporters.

Its the front range we can't outvote, so if they want to come tangle with a buncha country good ole boys, stack up mofos.



You've got a good sheriff and undersheriff.  Just like most rural sheriffs.  Ty is awesome and I know he did everything he could.  

Denver and Boulder can get fucked.  This will not stand any federal legal challenge.  Obviously, after the Trump case, the Colorado Supremes are untrammeled by any notions of impartiality or fairness.


That a negative, the CBI Ghestapo Act passed as well. They're gonna go after alot of gun stores that aren't complying with state law.


Yup thats why that bill was one of the worst of em. Oh you can get mags "now", not in 3 months tho when CBI starts paying visits.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 10:08:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin:


Yup thats why that bill was one of the worst of em. Oh you can get mags "now", not in 3 months tho when CBI starts paying visits.
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin:
Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By SSVGroupCoach:
Yeah I watched this unfold. I'm lucky in that being in a rural area, both my Senator and Rep are staunch 2A supporters.

Its the front range we can't outvote, so if they want to come tangle with a buncha country good ole boys, stack up mofos.



You've got a good sheriff and undersheriff.  Just like most rural sheriffs.  Ty is awesome and I know he did everything he could.  

Denver and Boulder can get fucked.  This will not stand any federal legal challenge.  Obviously, after the Trump case, the Colorado Supremes are untrammeled by any notions of impartiality or fairness.


That a negative, the CBI Ghestapo Act passed as well. They're gonna go after alot of gun stores that aren't complying with state law.


Yup thats why that bill was one of the worst of em. Oh you can get mags "now", not in 3 months tho when CBI starts paying visits.


There are already lists of stores in violation of state law for the CBI to act on immediately. The local sheriffs have been the only thing blocking that enforcement. At the initial committee meetings the local scumbag gun grabber associations specifically called out something like 20 stores in the front range.

This will of course also extend to any open display of parts that could be used to build assault weapons once the AWB has passed. All you naysayers thinking you're going to be able to buy shit at a gun show or at your LGS are in denial.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 11:55:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Harlikwin:


Yup thats why that bill was one of the worst of em. Oh you can get mags "now", not in 3 months tho when CBI starts paying visits.
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This is what I’ve been telling people from the beginning. The CBI bill is bad really really bad. I live in a county with a good sheriff. But it ultimately won’t matter if the CBI fucks have the power to enforce and prosecute these things.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 12:21:54 PM EDT
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We have a little over 3 weeks to squash this ban dead in the senate.  That's where we have to use every avenue at our disposal.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 12:36:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:


Doesn't matter if you know them. The new law as proposed grants the CBI the authority to bypass the local sheriff and directly go after anyone breaking state firearm laws. There has been some handwaving amendments added that they will have to somehow notify local LEO's, but we know where this is going and there is going to be secret investigations, red flags and anything else they can get away with as the CBI gets more funding and political cover.



https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/sb24-003


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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Originally Posted By mcculver5:
Originally Posted By SSVGroupCoach:
Yeah I watched this unfold. I'm lucky in that being in a rural area, both my Senator and Rep are staunch 2A supporters.

Its the front range we can't outvote, so if they want to come tangle with a buncha country good ole boys, stack up mofos.



You've got a good sheriff and undersheriff.  Just like most rural sheriffs.  Ty is awesome and I know he did everything he could.  

Denver and Boulder can get fucked.  This will not stand any federal legal challenge.  Obviously, after the Trump case, the Colorado Supremes are untrammeled by any notions of impartiality or fairness.


That a negative, the CBI Ghestapo Act passed as well. They're gonna go after alot of gun stores that aren't complying with state law.


Well, I personally know all three people, but I understand your point.  


Doesn't matter if you know them. The new law as proposed grants the CBI the authority to bypass the local sheriff and directly go after anyone breaking state firearm laws. There has been some handwaving amendments added that they will have to somehow notify local LEO's, but we know where this is going and there is going to be secret investigations, red flags and anything else they can get away with as the CBI gets more funding and political cover.

The bill requires the bureau to communicate with the appropriate local law enforcement agency and deconflict investigative operations prior to taking investigative or enforcement action and to collaborate with the local district attorney in the beginning stages of the investigation.


https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/sb24-003

Be it enacted by the General Assembly of the State of Colorado:
2 SECTION 1. Legislative intent - legislative findings. (1) It is
3 the intent of the general assembly that the Colorado bureau of
4 investigation investigate:
5 (a) Egregious attempts to purchase firearms by previously
6 convicted felons who are identified through the Instacheck unit denial process;
7 (b) Unlawful activity involving illegal firearm components and
8 accessories
; and
9 (c) Tips and information relating to firearms violations as they are
10 received, specifically focusing on straw purchases and personally
11 manufactured firearms, commonly known as ghost guns.

12 (2) (a) The general assembly finds that the Colorado bureau of
13 investigation has operated in partnership with local law enforcement
14 agencies on criminal investigations and that the bureau maintains a robust
15 operating directive that outlines how investigators will, as soon as
16 practicable after an investigation begins, communicate with local law
17 enforcement agencies to determine the nature and extent of a
18 firearm-related investigation.
19 (b) The general assembly intends that the Colorado bureau of
20 investigation communicate with local law enforcement and the local
21 district attorney in the jurisdiction where the bureau is conducting a




OK. Gotcha.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 12:58:15 PM EDT
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It's quickly becoming a question of what exactly we will allow our government to do to an armed populace.
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:
Doesn't matter if you know them. The new law as proposed grants the CBI the authority to bypass the local sheriff and directly go after anyone breaking state firearm laws. There has been some handwaving amendments added that they will have to somehow notify local LEO's, but we know where this is going and there is going to be secret investigations, red flags and anything else they can get away with as the CBI gets more funding and political cover.
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Sorta like weaponizing the DOJ against political opponents? Wonder where the D's learned THAT?
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 9:32:07 PM EDT
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This is what I’ve been telling people from the beginning. The CBI bill is bad really really bad. I live in a county with a good sheriff. But it ultimately won’t matter if the CBI fucks have the power to enforce and prosecute these things.
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The Dems want their own lil KGB to spread fear and terror as they see fit.
Link Posted: 4/14/2024 10:41:25 PM EDT
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Yup its bad shit all the way around. All of these bills (the big ones at least, not the sacrificial ones like the school one, which will be redundant and irrelevant anyways) all play together. They're different pieces of the same overall bullshit puzzle.

CBI, Tax hike, "AW" sale ban, increased req's for CC, the ability to sue gun stores for just about anything...

They all work hand in hand to effectively kill shooting sports and gun-owners rights in Colorado.

Fucking socialists. Fucking Karens. Blaming societal problems on a minority group that is easy to scapegoat because (as statistics easily show) they are the MOST peaceful and liberty-minded people that don't play in politics. Fuckers.

Fuck them all. I hope they rot in hell. I hope for really bad things to happen to them, but COC prevents me from typing it.
Link Posted: 4/15/2024 2:11:05 PM EDT
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"I've long been skeptical of discussions around 'this kind of equipment versus that kind of equipment,'" the Democrat told The Sun in an interview earlier this month. "I think it's more an issue of making sure our gun safety laws are followed. I think where you can and can't safely carry guns is a legitimate discussion, as well as making sure that our strong gun laws are enforced."

That was from Polis.
Link Posted: 4/15/2024 4:05:57 PM EDT
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Anyone able to elaborate on what this means for NFA items (suppressors and SBRs mainly)? Just curious on current items in possession but also future purchases.
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Anyone able to elaborate on what this means for NFA items (suppressors and SBRs mainly)? Just curious on current items in possession but also future purchases.
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NFA is not specifically mentioned. SBR'd "Assault Weapons" will be treated like all the others. Non-transferable in CO, etc etc. Suppressors were strangely not mentioned at all. I don't think they can claim its a shroud or assault muzzle device because they define that as a flash hider or shroud.

So cans should be g2g. theoretically.

ETA I think someone said in another thread on this that the Federal level stuff (NFA) is handled differently when states pass more restrictive laws. Or something. I don't know. I'm not changing shit for my stuff. I think the feds only care about their rules. In other words, the AFT doesn't give a shit if you have a papered NFA SBR in a state that no longer allows AR-15 sales. IANAL.
Link Posted: 4/15/2024 6:27:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By pestilence12:


NFA is not specifically mentioned. SBR'd "Assault Weapons" will be treated like all the others. Non-transferable in CO, etc etc. Suppressors were strangely not mentioned at all. I don't think they can claim its a shroud or assault muzzle device because they define that as a flash hider or shroud.

So cans should be g2g. theoretically.

ETA I think someone said in another thread on this that the Federal level stuff (NFA) is handled differently when states pass more restrictive laws. Or something. I don't know. I'm not changing shit for my stuff. I think the feds only care about their rules. In other words, the AFT doesn't give a shit if you have a papered NFA SBR in a state that no longer allows AR-15 sales. IANAL.
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Originally Posted By BBOHACH:
Anyone able to elaborate on what this means for NFA items (suppressors and SBRs mainly)? Just curious on current items in possession but also future purchases.


NFA is not specifically mentioned. SBR'd "Assault Weapons" will be treated like all the others. Non-transferable in CO, etc etc. Suppressors were strangely not mentioned at all. I don't think they can claim its a shroud or assault muzzle device because they define that as a flash hider or shroud.

So cans should be g2g. theoretically.

ETA I think someone said in another thread on this that the Federal level stuff (NFA) is handled differently when states pass more restrictive laws. Or something. I don't know. I'm not changing shit for my stuff. I think the feds only care about their rules. In other words, the AFT doesn't give a shit if you have a papered NFA SBR in a state that no longer allows AR-15 sales. IANAL.


My LGS was of the opinion that SBRs would somehow be exempt from the AWB... not sure how you can argue that.

Regarding suppressors, those could quite easily be added to this, just like FA was added to the Hughes Amendment.
Link Posted: 4/15/2024 6:43:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PointBlank82:


My LGS was of the opinion that SBRs would somehow be exempt from the AWB... not sure how you can argue that.

Regarding suppressors, those could quite easily be added to this, just like FA was added to the Hughes Amendment.
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Yeah.

Possibly.
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 8:55:01 PM EDT
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Gun Owners of America National Spokesman Luis Valdes denounces the Colorado House for approving a bill that would ban assault weapons. “It’s a travesty that a state like Colorado has fallen behind the wayside,” he says. The legislation is expected to pass in the Senate and be signed into law by Democratic Governor Jared Polis.

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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Gun Owners of America National Spokesman Luis Valdes denounces the Colorado House for approving a bill that would ban assault weapons. "It's a travesty that a state like Colorado has fallen behind the wayside," he says. The legislation is expected to pass in the Senate and be signed into law by Democratic Governor Jared Polis.

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Don't be so sure.

Also GOA and RMGO are constantly sending fear emails to elicit donations.
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 9:05:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By saigamanTX:
Don't be so sure.

Also GOA and RMGO are constantly sending fear emails to elicit donations.
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Originally Posted By Miami_JBT:
Gun Owners of America National Spokesman Luis Valdes denounces the Colorado House for approving a bill that would ban assault weapons. "It's a travesty that a state like Colorado has fallen behind the wayside," he says. The legislation is expected to pass in the Senate and be signed into law by Democratic Governor Jared Polis.

Don't be so sure.

Also GOA and RMGO are constantly sending fear emails to elicit donations.
As I said in my interview, I used for be envious of CO. I hope that the bill doesn't pass. But we're (GOA) are looking at every legal action to challenge it if it does pass.

And we don't fear monger, we fight the good fight.

Link Posted: 4/16/2024 9:20:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/16/2024 9:38:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By saigamanTX:
Also GOA and RMGO are constantly sending fear emails to elicit donations.
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I got one from FPC today too.

I don't trust Dudley and RMGO a single inch (and by extrapolation NAGR), but if FPC says they're gonna go after this CO law, I have no reason to doubt that they will follow up on it.
Link Posted: 4/16/2024 11:41:56 PM EDT
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I only give $ to GOA, FPC and 2AF (2AF emails get annoying).

I'm also a member of NRA and CSSA, but they only get dues. I hope that RMGO redeems itself and they may be on that path, but Pudley really went out of his way to burn bridges.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 7:04:57 AM EDT
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As a Washington State resident, born and raised, not some slimy Californian transplant, I’m praying for you guys and your Constitutional Rights.  I have family in your state and they where also born and raised their as well and not happy with things in your great state, as of lately.

With that said, stock up now, as much as possible on semi auto rifles, or at least the receivers, especially AR receivers.  As much as I hate using credit cards, I broke out the cards to buy what I could before our own laws changed for the worse. It sucks wishing that you had bought that  special rifle, especially down the road, if this BS law should kicks in.

I wouldn’t worry about optics and stockpiling ammo at this point.

I didn’t read the whole Bill, but if it includes 11+ round magazines, stock up on pistol magazines as well… Even for the pistols you hope to buy down the road.

Just as a friendly reminder, and as a Magpul fan, they put a date code on their magazines, so that is something to think about with their magazines… Just saying.

Good luck on your fight!
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 10:16:34 AM EDT
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I give to GOA and FPC.
I really don't want to have to figure out how to fund the things that I want if this passes.
Do we know the effective date?
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 10:22:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MTBGunner:
I give to GOA and FPC.
I really don't want to have to figure out how to fund the things that I want if this passes.
Do we know the effective date?
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If it gets through the senate and signed by the governor, then July 1.
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 10:56:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By uncle_big_green:


If it gets through the senate and signed by the governor, then July 1.
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Originally Posted By MTBGunner:
I give to GOA and FPC.
I really don't want to have to figure out how to fund the things that I want if this passes.
Do we know the effective date?


If it gets through the senate and signed by the governor, then July 1.


As the bill is written. Correct me if I'm wrong, but they could move the enactment date up thru an ammendment?
Link Posted: 4/17/2024 11:36:51 AM EDT
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Thanks.
Ugly situation brought on by evil serving commies.
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