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Posted: 10/4/2021 2:13:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
https://www.foxnews.com/health/china-quarantines-wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak-reports

are you ready?

IF you and your family was in Wuhan, would you bug out? bug in?

Below This Line Fast links and info added by brass  -- 04-17-2020 22:48:09 CST  Added TL;DR to bottom of this post
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(Link collection courtesy of member SIMJEDI)
The CDC has updated their symptoms list. Bolded

Each of these are not mutually exclusive. These symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus.
  • Fever
  • Chills
  • Headache
  • Dry cough
  • Sore throat
  • Muscle pain
  • Extreme fatigue  (UNOFFICIAL)
  • Bluish lips or face
  • Trouble breathing
  • Shortness of breath
  • Repeated shaking with chills
  • Pain and pressure in the chest
  • New confusion or inability to arouse
  • Loss or diminished smell and taste
  • Conjunctivitis - Redness of the upper and lower eyelids (UNOFFICIAL)
  • Gastrointestinal Upset - Commonly included symptoms are: Constipation, Diarrhea, Heartburn, Nausea, Stomach Pain and Vomiting (UNOFFICIAL)


From CDC:


MAPS AND STATISTICS

RESEARCH AND STUDIES

INFO
  • CDC Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

  • FDA Novel coronavirus (COVID-19) - Food and Drug Administration

  • Department of Health and Human Services - HHS.gov

  • State Health Departments - State Listings

  • Travel.State.Gov - Travel Advisories

  • CDC Travel Health Notices - Travel Advisories

  • WHO Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) - World Health Organization

  • Persistence of Coronaviruses on Inanimate Surfaces and Their Inactivation With Biocidal Agents - Virus Surfaces Longevity and Cleaning Agents

  • Sanitizers and Disinfectants: The Chemicals of Prevention - Cleaning Agents

  • Notepad Version Of This List
    Click To View Spoiler

AR15.com Members on the Front Line

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nCoV-19 lives around 5 days on common surfaces, up to 28 days on optimal surface/temperature/humidity, and minutes to hours on porous materials.    It's covered in this paper which also includes efficacy of various disinfectants.  The first table is survival time on various surfaces.    

At room temperature, nCoV-19 (aka HCoV-229E) persists longer at 50% relative humidity than at 20% RH when at "normal temperatures"

For an idea:
Steel - 8 - 24 hours at room temperature (RT), but 28 days at 40°F and 20% humidity.  Higher or lower humidity drastically impacts persistence.
At "Normal" Temp 68-86°F (20-30°C)
Aluminum - 2-8 hours
Metals - 5 days
Wood  - 4 days
Paper  - 3 hour to 5 days depending on initial load/amount of virions
Glass  - 4 days to 5 days
Plastics - 4 - 9 days (longer the higher the viral load/contamination)
Silicone Rubber - 5 Days (Be careful when borrowing a fleshlight)
Latex Gloves - 8 hours
Disposable Gown (Tyvek) - 1 hour to 2 Days depending on initial level of contamination
Ceramics - 5 days
Teflon - 5 days

While I'm typing all this, here are the best disinfectants (in order of paper above)
3log10 is 99.9%,  4log10 is 99.99%, 5 log10 is 99.999%, etc.  
Ethanol   4.0 log10  to > 5.9  log10 after 30 seconds 70% to 95% respectively (other biologicals survive longer with 90%+ alcohol, NOT nCoV-19)
2-Propanol  > 3.3 log10 in 30 seconds
BZK/Benzalkonium chloride  0 - 4.0 log10 after 10 Minutes
Sodium Hypochlorite (Bleach) - 0.21% (2100 ppm concentration)  > 4.0 log10 after 30 seconds
Sodium Hypochlorite (Bleach) - <=0.01% (<100 ppm concentration)  0.3 - 2.8 log10  10 Minutes
Formaldehyde - above 0.7% concentration  > 3.0 log10 in 10 Minutes
Glutardialdehyde - 0.5% to 2.5% > 4.0 log10  after 2-5 Minutes
Povidone iodine > 4.0 log10 after 15 seconds

More detail and sources are in the linked paper.  I merged together the concentrations and gave a range to save typing in the summary above, there may even be typos and errors.







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EPA Approval letter on cleaners that work with nCoV--19
EPA Approved Antimicrobal products for SARS-CoV-2 / nCoV-19 / COVID-19

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Study on N95 disinfection for re-use


N95 Masks in emergency:


*NEW*
Sewing Pattern for DIY masks Use T-shirt and Swiffer pads or HEPA filter material as an inner layer between T-Shirt layers.

Simple Respiratory Mask (Scientific Paper)

*NEW* Added 03-23-2020 18:21:09 CST


Study on N95 steam disinfection for re-use

Effects of Ultraviolet Germicidal Irradiation (UVGI) on N95 Respirator Filtration Performance and Structural Integrity

CDC Recommended Guidance for Extended Use and Limited Reuse of N95 Filtering Facepiece Respirators in Healthcare Settings

*NEW*
Decontamination and Reuse of N95 Respirators with Hydrogen Peroxide Vaporto Address Worldwide Personal Protective Equipment Shortages During the SARSCoV2 (COVID19) Pandemic
(Google Drive document)

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UV Info:

Dosage Chart in µJ/cm²  (aka µW-s/cm²)  Human virii around around 6-8mJ/cm², so 6 W Bulb would need to be within 3" for 3-5 seconds, over every square centimeter

A 6 W UV bulb is 2250 µJ/cm²  (2.25 mJ) per second at 3"    So to get a 100 mJ dose, need ~45 seconds to disinfect, double the wattage, double the intensity.  (Mercury bulbs, which are 254 nm, are "SW" or Short Wave).  280nm is optimal for DNA destruction, but only unimaginably expensive LEDs can hit that exact wavelength.   This chart has the required dose of 254 nm (mercury vapor) bulbs.

Here's the tricky part:  Double the distance and the dose needs to be increased by 4x, (same for 1/4x dose @1.5")

A Mercury Vapor bulb will be marked "254 nm" or Hg.   It will also be CLEAR
A Phosphor UV-C bulb will be marked "SW/LW" or "Wideband" with phosphors to get more into the 280-300 range, these will be bluish white opaque, like a fluorescent bulb.  The wide band are rare and more spendy, but are what's used in steri-pens, for example

both types the bulb will turn on for 6000 hours, but only about 1000 hours usable due to darkening of the quartz envelope (Hg), or phosphors going bad (fluorescent UV-C).  Similar to tanning bed bulbs going bad, except in a much shorter wavelength.
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03-24-2020 14:00:54 CST UPDATE:   DIY N95-ish Fashion Face Masks filter materials and more instructions from member woozle


What Are The Best Materials for Making DIY Masks?







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*NEW*  4-3-2020

Sterilizing n95 Fact Sheet (PDF 1 page poster)

Information and FAQs on the Performance, Protection, and Sterilization of Face Mask Materials (University of Tennessee Research)

Stanford Paper on Masks/PPE, materials, and re-use

Cornell Followup on N95 re-use

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*NEW* 4-8-2020  Covid-19 may be a Blood Disease causing Lung problems, not the other way around.

Detailed reading on heme theory Chloroquine use (PDF)

 The virus is a positive-strand RNA virus with high homology to bat coronavirus. In this study, conserved domain analysis, homology modeling, and molecular docking were used to compare the biological roles of certain proteins of the novel coronavirus. The results showed the ORF8 and surface glycoprotein could bind to the porphyrin, respectively.At the same time, orf1ab, ORF10, and ORF3a proteins could coordinate attack the heme on the 1-beta chain of hemoglobin to dissociate the iron to form the porphyrin. The attack will cause less and less hemoglobin that can carry oxygen and carbon dioxide.  The lung cells have extremely intense poisoning and inflammatory due to the inability to exchange carbon dioxide and oxygen frequently, which eventually results in ground-glass-like lung images. The mechanism also interfered with the normal heme anabolic pathway of the human body, is expected to result in human disease. According to the validation analysis of these finds, chloroquine could prevent orf1ab, ORF3a, and ORF10 to attack the heme to form the porphyrin, and inhibit the binding of ORF8 and surface glycoproteins to porphyrins to a certain extent, effectively relieve the symptoms of respiratory distress.
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The above paper's theory on Covid-19 being a blood disease (Medium) in ELI5 English

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TL;DR Thread Summary (humor)


[color=#00ffff]Official Coronavirus guidelines?[/b][/color]

1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.

2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.

3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.

4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.

5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.

6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help.

7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it's important to GO OUT.

8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.

9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.

10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…

11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..

12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it's better not to go out, well, but no…

13. It's better to get some fresh air, but you get looked at very wrong when you get some fresh air, and most importantly, you don't go to parks or walk. But don’t sit down, except that you can do that now if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant (but not too old).

14. You can't go to retirement homes, but you have to take care of the elderly and bring food and medication.

15. If you are sick, you can't go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.

16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn't wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated outside for 3 hours. Pizza too?

17. Every disturbing article or disturbing interview starts with "I don't want to trigger panic, but…"

18. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but you can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.

19. You can walk around with a friend but not with your family if they don't live under the same roof.

20. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.

21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.

22. The virus stays in the air - well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.

23. We count the number of deaths but we don't know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were "almost dead" to find out if that's what they will die of…

24. We have no treatment, except that there may be one that apparently is not dangerous unless you take too much (which is the case with all medications).

25. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates… but we must no longer be locked up for that?
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Still hacking phlegm and under the weather.  It will be a week tomorrow.

Wife is pretty much back to normal aside from an occasional cough.
Link Posted: 4/28/2022 1:14:11 AM EDT
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The head rat in the swamp says pandemic phase is over:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-says-us-certainly-out-pandemic-stage-covid-19
r. Anthony Fauci, the country's top infectious disease expert, says the United States is "certainly" past the pandemic stage of fighting the coronavirus, though he acknowledges it continues in other countries around the world.

"We are certainly right now in this country out of the pandemic phase," he told PBS NewsHour host Judy Woodruff on Tuesday. "We don't have 900,000 new infections a day and tens and tens and tens of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of deaths. We are at a low level right now. So, if you're saying, are we out of the pandemic phase in this country, we are."

Fauci, also President Biden's chief medical adviser, also said the U.S. was "not going to eradicate this virus" entirely and that the government should continue a practice of "intermittently vaccinat(ing) people."

Many Americans, he said, may have to get vaccinated annually for an unclear period of time in an effort to reduce the number of infections.

"That might be every year, that might be longer, in order to keep that level low. But, right now, we are not in the pandemic phase in this country," he said.
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The head rat in the swamp says pandemic phase is over:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-says-us-certainly-out-pandemic-stage-covid-19
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I believe most Americans and people worldwide of even average intelligence don't give a rats' ass what the little troll says, one way or another.  They're just hoping he suffers for his crimes, if they waste any time thinking about him at all.
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I believe most Americans and people worldwide of even average intelligence don't give a rats' ass what the little troll says, one way or another.  They're just hoping he suffers for his crimes, if they waste any time thinking about him at all.
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
The head rat in the swamp says pandemic phase is over:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-says-us-certainly-out-pandemic-stage-covid-19


I believe most Americans and people worldwide of even average intelligence don't give a rats' ass what the little troll says, one way or another.  They're just hoping he suffers for his crimes, if they waste any time thinking about him at all.
The only thing beyond that is, IMO, that other schmucks in the government listen to the rotten goblin.
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
The head rat in the swamp says pandemic phase is over:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-says-us-certainly-out-pandemic-stage-covid-19
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Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
The head rat in the swamp says pandemic phase is over:
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/fauci-says-us-certainly-out-pandemic-stage-covid-19
r. Anthony Fauci, the country's top infectious disease expert, says the United States is "certainly" past the pandemic stage of fighting the coronavirus, though he acknowledges it continues in other countries around the world.

"We are certainly right now in this country out of the pandemic phase," he told PBS NewsHour host Judy Woodruff on Tuesday. "We don't have 900,000 new infections a day and tens and tens and tens of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of deaths. We are at a low level right now. So, if you're saying, are we out of the pandemic phase in this country, we are."

Fauci, also President Biden's chief medical adviser, also said the U.S. was "not going to eradicate this virus" entirely and that the government should continue a practice of "intermittently vaccinat(ing) people."

Many Americans, he said, may have to get vaccinated annually for an unclear period of time in an effort to reduce the number of infections.

"That might be every year, that might be longer, in order to keep that level low. But, right now, we are not in the pandemic phase in this country," he said.


Wait.  Hold up.  Don't go misinterpreting that.

Fauci walks back claim that US is 'out of the pandemic phase'.
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Originally Posted By JPN:


Wait.  Hold up.  Don't go misinterpreting that.

Fauci walks back claim that US is 'out of the pandemic phase'.
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Not surprising since the crazies like @DrEricDing were freaking out about that

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He has a lot more tweets but these are some highlights











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He has a lot more tweets but these are some highlights



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I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.
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I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.
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Originally Posted By RSG:
He has a lot more tweets but these are some highlights



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSFZ6wgXIAEZToI?format=jpg&name=900x900








I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.



Either the chinese govt is culling the political dissidents ( again ) or something very big has happened in china ( again ) and they aren't letting the world know, like maybe they let loose another completely different viral  weapon.

Tens of millions of people in china are locked down again ( like can't leave their apartments (again) yet the world continues international flights in and out of china just like last time.

China needs to be dealt with.
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@stampkolektor

Did you even begin to think we'd be here with this thread?
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Well, the rice rabies finally caught up to me. Probably picked it up grocery shopping. Chest is tight, dry cough, yesterday had a headache, and it felt like somebody beat my upper back with a stick. Feeling kind of drained. All in all, not so bad, so far. Blood-ox is holding upper 90s.

Started Ivermectin yesterday. Should I supplement with good Scotch?

Is it de rigueur to call the doc for advice or only if it get's worse?
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Seems to be a resurgence in my AO a well.  I wouldn't call the doctor unless it gets worse.  Fluids and cold meds seem to knock it out.
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Cool. That's my thought as well.

Roger that on the fluids and cold meds. I was worried about sleeping last night but a capful of NyQuil Severe and I slept like a baby.
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:

Seems to be a resurgence in my AO a well.  I wouldn't call the doctor unless it gets worse.  Fluids and cold meds seem to knock it out.
Cool. That's my thought as well.

Roger that on the fluids and cold meds. I was worried about sleeping last night but a capful of NyQuil Severe and I slept like a baby.

Nyquil tends to do that.  I am pounding allergy meds and I look like a zombie.  Damn grass pollen.
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Originally Posted By JCoop:
I hear that. Pollen kicks my butt as well but I don't want to cover up my rona symptoms with claritin. If I can feel the nuances of where rona is taking me I can better tell if it's getting better or worse.
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:

Nyquil tends to do that.  I am pounding allergy meds and I look like a zombie.  Damn grass pollen.
I hear that. Pollen kicks my butt as well but I don't want to cover up my rona symptoms with claritin. If I can feel the nuances of where rona is taking me I can better tell if it's getting better or worse.

That makes sense.  It's the season where everyone is playing the game what is it.  Home test said I am negative and symptoms don't fit.  Just a pain when the whole office has the sniffles and everyone is on edge.  
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I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.
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He has a lot more tweets but these are some highlights



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSFZ6wgXIAEZToI?format=jpg&name=900x900








I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.


From what I’ve heard there is longer more stringent lockdown coming but how long it will be compared to the first is hard to say.
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From what I’ve heard there is longer more stringent lockdown coming but how long it will be compared to the first is hard to say.
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:
Originally Posted By RSG:
He has a lot more tweets but these are some highlights



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSFZ6wgXIAEZToI?format=jpg&name=900x900








I hadn't been able to follow his updates this week.  Not positive news for him.


From what I’ve heard there is longer more stringent lockdown coming but how long it will be compared to the first is hard to say.

It looks like he finally got out of lockdown but other areas are locked down. We will all get to watch as zero COVID keeps the CCP busy.
Link Posted: 6/20/2022 6:24:18 PM EDT
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Anyone remember the reputable online pharmacies in India?  I need some Cloxacillin but don’t remember the names of the ones posted previously.
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Anyone remember the reputable online pharmacies in India?  I need some Cloxacillin but don't remember the names of the ones posted previously.
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Sgp the .com

Link Posted: 6/28/2022 11:51:12 PM EDT
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I'm just posting this here so I can look back at the plunge in birthrates later, hopefully when they rebound.

10% to 23% drop in births year-over-year
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https://justthenews.com/government/congress/defunding-wuhan-congress-quietly-bans-federal-funds-labs-china-russia-and-iran

Defunding Wuhan: Congress quietly bans federal funds from (TO! - Flash) labs in China, Russia and Iran

Vote is latest action to acknowledge that theory that COVID-19 leaked from Wuhan research lab — once censored as preposterous and by news organizations, social media giants — is viable enough for government to vote with its pocketbook.
By John Solomon
Updated: July 2, 2022 - 4:26am

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While U.S. intelligence has been unable in two years to determine for sure if COVID-19 leaked from a Chinese lab, Congress has decided it no longer wants to take the risk of funding medical research at labs controlled by Beijing or other American adversaries.

With little fanfare and in bipartisan fashion, House appropriators quietly amended the 2023 federal budget for health and science agencies on Thursday to ban any funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which U.S. intelligence fears may have been the origin point for the coronavirus pandemic, and other labs like it.

"None of the funds made available by this Act may be made available to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, or any other laboratory located in a country determined by the Secretary of State to be a foreign adversary, including China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran," reads the amendment approved by the House Appropriations Committee.

You can read the amendment here:
File
HoueAppropsAmendments6-30-22.pdf

The vote is the latest official government action to acknowledge that the theory that COVID-19 leaked from the Wuhan research lab — once panned as preposterous and censored by news organizations and social media giants — is viable enough for the government to vote with its pocketbook.

After more than a year of ridicule, the lab leak theory was officially recognized by the Biden administration's intelligence apparatus as one of the two most viable explanations for the appearance of coronavirus, with the other being natural evolution.

The lab leak theory got even more credence last month when the World Health Organization, the United Nations body that first dismissed the lab leak theory, admitted there was "new evidence" supporting the theory that needed investigating.

WHO said on June 10 that  "key pieces of data" to explain how the pandemic began were still missing and that it must "remain open to any and all scientific evidence that becomes available in the future to allow for comprehensive testing of all reasonable hypotheses."

The announcement by WHO led House Republicans to cheer. "Americans were smeared as 'conspiracy theorists' for asking whether #COVID19 came from a lab leak," they tweeted. "Now, the WHO is asking the same questions."

The Appropriations Committee action on Thursday was praised by Rep. Lisa McClain (R-Mich.), a member of the House Education and Labor Committee who sponsored the amendment over national security concerns and the fact that many foreign labs conduct abusive experiments on animals.

"Our tax dollars should never go to countries that threaten our national security," she said. "We've seen how dangerous it is to fund research at the Wuhan Lab in China. I've been leading efforts to defund animal labs in China, Russia and other foreign adversaries and I'm proud that the House Appropriations Committee adopted an amendment supporting my efforts to prevent taxpayers' money from being sent to labs in these countries.”

Also applauding the action was the nonprofit group White Coat Waste Project, which earlier this year revealed that 32 animal labs in Russia and China were eligible to receive taxpayer dollars via the National Institutes of Health and that one in Russia was involved in a cruel experiment on cats.

"A majority of Americans agree that taxpayers shouldn't be forced to pay white coats in foreign labs to torture animals in dangerous and wasteful experiments," said the group's Senior Vice President Justin Goodman. "Having first exposed NIH funding for animal labs in China and Russia — including the notorious Wuhan Institute of Virology — we applaud Republicans and Democrats on the Appropriations Committee for their historic move to defund wasteful spending in dozens of animal testing labs run by our enemies."
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Looks like fauci's "gain of function" efforts are working...the latest BA.5 variant evading nearly all antibodies - even from recent prior infection...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01730-y

Maybe after the next couple elections - if they are not fraudulently modified - the evil fauci and his despicable associates will be punished for crimes against humanity...
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Originally Posted By HighDesert6920:
Looks like fauci's "gain of function" efforts are working...the latest BA.5 variant evading nearly all antibodies - even from recent prior infection...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01730-y

Maybe after the next couple elections - if they are not fraudulently modified - the evil fauci and his despicable associates will be punished for crimes against humanity...
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Another variant from Africa.  Seems to be an incubator these days...
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China still hard at it.  At least we never produced pictures like this?


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Originally Posted By HighDesert6920:
Looks like fauci's "gain of function" efforts are working...the latest BA.5 variant evading nearly all antibodies - even from recent prior infection...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-01730-y

Maybe after the next couple elections - if they are not fraudulently modified - the evil fauci and his despicable associates will be punished for crimes against humanity...
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I wonder how much of that is driven by so many people having a ... well whatever you want to call it .... for the original strain, thus providing a wide open field for these variants to go wild on.
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@stampkolektor

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i honestly didnt know what this was gonna turn to.

i thought when China locks down an entire city, its time to pay attention. when they cancelled Lunar New Year, thats when i started telling fam (who dont prep) to prep.

but, no i didnt think this thread was going anywhere...

lol look now.
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I'll tell you...Either we are all living in a parallel universe, or we are going to see a lot of folks get blindsided. I'm sitting in a pizza place grabbing a quick lunch....they have CNN on the TV. Wall to wall coverage of the impeachment hearings. Political analysis and nothing else. Not one second or one word about this virus.

A world power is shutting down their cities amid a public health crisis...potentially resulting from a bio weapon gone astray....potentially threatening the world.  CNNS priority. ..Trump.

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this post (dated 1/24/2020) right here hits the nail on the head.

covid was already in CONUS and we still had no MSM mention on it.
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this post (dated 1/24/2020) right here hits the nail on the head.

covid was already in CONUS and we still had no MSM mention on it.
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Originally Posted By macro:
I'll tell you...Either we are all living in a parallel universe, or we are going to see a lot of folks get blindsided. I'm sitting in a pizza place grabbing a quick lunch....they have CNN on the TV. Wall to wall coverage of the impeachment hearings. Political analysis and nothing else. Not one second or one word about this virus.

A world power is shutting down their cities amid a public health crisis...potentially resulting from a bio weapon gone astray....potentially threatening the world.  CNNS priority. ..Trump.

These people really are fucking crazy


this post (dated 1/24/2020) right here hits the nail on the head.

covid was already in CONUS and we still had no MSM mention on it.

COVID was created at UNC in 2015. COVID was already unleashed in the U.S. in early 2019, if not before that, and MSM never mentioned it. Forget Trump. We're on our own.
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Does anyone recall early on in this thread where Nipah showed up in some of the early china victims? There's a thread going in GD talking about Nipah being worked on at the wuhan lab, like it was new news, and I thought this thread broke that news like first 1-2 months into this mess.
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This thread is still alive?

I remember posting when the first few cases were popping up in Wuhan then meticulously following every cruise ship around the world with infections to see where they had been and where they were going and spreading Covid.
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Well, 6 weeks since (your) last post in this thread. No mask and no vax requirements for international travel. Still see a few ultra true believers with masks daily, I think it is a combo security blanket and virtue signaller.

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Well, 6 weeks since (your) last post in this thread. No mask and no vax requirements for international travel. Still see a few ultra true believers with masks daily, I think it is a combo security blanket and virtue signaller.

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Originally Posted By MostlyPeaceful:
Originally Posted By MarkNH:
This thread is still alive?

I remember posting when the first few cases were popping up in Wuhan then meticulously following every cruise ship around the world with infections to see where they had been and where they were going and spreading Covid.


Well, 6 weeks since (your) last post in this thread. No mask and no vax requirements for international travel. Still see a few ultra true believers with masks daily, I think it is a combo security blanket and virtue signaller.



China was reportedly locking down more cities, in recent weeks, supposedly for covid.

Some people where I work seem to have decided that a second round of covid is the new trendy thing to do (I've lost track of how many have tested positive for a second case of covid in recent months), but it's apparently one of the weak strains.
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Bump!
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Bumping to see who was pushing the fear covid mongering
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Bumping to see who was pushing the fear covid mongering
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All gone like roaches when the lights come on.
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January 2020 isn’t November 2022.
Link Posted: 11/6/2022 6:27:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet:
All gone like roaches when the lights come on.
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Originally Posted By FreefallRet:
Originally Posted By Lurk-king:
Bumping to see who was pushing the fear covid mongering
All gone like roaches when the lights come on.

Ah, tribalism built on false beliefs.

Strong as ever.

Clearly the only thing ever or even mostly done on this thread was fear mongering.
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Bumping to see who was pushing the fear covid mongering
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Hi.
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Haven't seen post you in awhile, hope all is well.
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The CDC needs to stay on top of this shit.  Fucking air travel is going to kill us all
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They stayed on top on if alright.
Link Posted: 11/10/2022 11:53:34 AM EDT
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Haven't seen post you in awhile, hope all is well.
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Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:
Originally Posted By S13:
Hi.


Haven't seen post you in awhile, hope all is well.
Thanks. Doing good.  I post a lot.  Just in team.


Ive been declared a leper in GD
Link Posted: 11/10/2022 1:24:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By S13:
Thanks. Doing good.  I post a lot.  Just in team.


Ive been declared a leper in GD
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Originally Posted By S13:
Originally Posted By exDefensorMilitas:
Originally Posted By S13:
Hi.


Haven't seen post you in awhile, hope all is well.
Thanks. Doing good.  I post a lot.  Just in team.


Ive been declared a leper in GD


Ah. Odd though, as I've always pictured GD as the leper colony.
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Xi is a big fan of Mao and seems determined to duplicate the big famine of Mao's 'Great Leap Forward'.
Link Posted: 11/26/2022 9:51:26 PM EDT
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What's the difference between a "quarantine center" and a concentration camp?
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What's the difference between a "quarantine center" and a concentration camp?
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One of them has one more letter.
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