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Posted: 10/4/2021 2:13:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brass]
https://www.foxnews.com/health/china-quarantines-wuhan-coronavirus-outbreak-reports

are you ready?

IF you and your family was in Wuhan, would you bug out? bug in?

Below This Line Fast links and info added by brass  -- 04-17-2020 22:48:09 CST  Added TL;DR to bottom of this post
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(Link collection courtesy of member SIMJEDI)
The CDC has updated their symptoms list. Bolded

Each of these are not mutually exclusive. These symptoms may appear 2-14 days after exposure to the virus.
  • Fever
  • Chills
  • Headache
  • Dry cough
  • Sore throat
  • Muscle pain
  • Extreme fatigue  (UNOFFICIAL)
  • Bluish lips or face
  • Trouble breathing
  • Shortness of breath
  • Repeated shaking with chills
  • Pain and pressure in the chest
  • New confusion or inability to arouse
  • Loss or diminished smell and taste
  • Conjunctivitis - Redness of the upper and lower eyelids (UNOFFICIAL)
  • Gastrointestinal Upset - Commonly included symptoms are: Constipation, Diarrhea, Heartburn, Nausea, Stomach Pain and Vomiting (UNOFFICIAL)


From CDC:


MAPS AND STATISTICS

RESEARCH AND STUDIES

INFO
  • CDC Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

  • FDA Novel coronavirus (COVID-19) - Food and Drug Administration

  • Department of Health and Human Services - HHS.gov

  • State Health Departments - State Listings

  • Travel.State.Gov - Travel Advisories

  • CDC Travel Health Notices - Travel Advisories

  • WHO Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) - World Health Organization

  • Persistence of Coronaviruses on Inanimate Surfaces and Their Inactivation With Biocidal Agents - Virus Surfaces Longevity and Cleaning Agents

  • Sanitizers and Disinfectants: The Chemicals of Prevention - Cleaning Agents

  • Notepad Version Of This List
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AR15.com Members on the Front Line

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nCoV-19 lives around 5 days on common surfaces, up to 28 days on optimal surface/temperature/humidity, and minutes to hours on porous materials.    It's covered in this paper which also includes efficacy of various disinfectants.  The first table is survival time on various surfaces.    

At room temperature, nCoV-19 (aka HCoV-229E) persists longer at 50% relative humidity than at 20% RH when at "normal temperatures"

For an idea:
Steel - 8 - 24 hours at room temperature (RT), but 28 days at 40°F and 20% humidity.  Higher or lower humidity drastically impacts persistence.
At "Normal" Temp 68-86°F (20-30°C)
Aluminum - 2-8 hours
Metals - 5 days
Wood  - 4 days
Paper  - 3 hour to 5 days depending on initial load/amount of virions
Glass  - 4 days to 5 days
Plastics - 4 - 9 days (longer the higher the viral load/contamination)
Silicone Rubber - 5 Days (Be careful when borrowing a fleshlight)
Latex Gloves - 8 hours
Disposable Gown (Tyvek) - 1 hour to 2 Days depending on initial level of contamination
Ceramics - 5 days
Teflon - 5 days

While I'm typing all this, here are the best disinfectants (in order of paper above)
3log10 is 99.9%,  4log10 is 99.99%, 5 log10 is 99.999%, etc.  
Ethanol   4.0 log10  to > 5.9  log10 after 30 seconds 70% to 95% respectively (other biologicals survive longer with 90%+ alcohol, NOT nCoV-19)
2-Propanol  > 3.3 log10 in 30 seconds
BZK/Benzalkonium chloride  0 - 4.0 log10 after 10 Minutes
Sodium Hypochlorite (Bleach) - 0.21% (2100 ppm concentration)  > 4.0 log10 after 30 seconds
Sodium Hypochlorite (Bleach) - <=0.01% (<100 ppm concentration)  0.3 - 2.8 log10  10 Minutes
Formaldehyde - above 0.7% concentration  > 3.0 log10 in 10 Minutes
Glutardialdehyde - 0.5% to 2.5% > 4.0 log10  after 2-5 Minutes
Povidone iodine > 4.0 log10 after 15 seconds

More detail and sources are in the linked paper.  I merged together the concentrations and gave a range to save typing in the summary above, there may even be typos and errors.







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EPA Approval letter on cleaners that work with nCoV--19
EPA Approved Antimicrobal products for SARS-CoV-2 / nCoV-19 / COVID-19

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Study on N95 disinfection for re-use


N95 Masks in emergency:


*NEW*
Sewing Pattern for DIY masks Use T-shirt and Swiffer pads or HEPA filter material as an inner layer between T-Shirt layers.

Simple Respiratory Mask (Scientific Paper)

*NEW* Added 03-23-2020 18:21:09 CST


Study on N95 steam disinfection for re-use

Effects of Ultraviolet Germicidal Irradiation (UVGI) on N95 Respirator Filtration Performance and Structural Integrity

CDC Recommended Guidance for Extended Use and Limited Reuse of N95 Filtering Facepiece Respirators in Healthcare Settings

*NEW*
Decontamination and Reuse of N95 Respirators with Hydrogen Peroxide Vaporto Address Worldwide Personal Protective Equipment Shortages During the SARSCoV2 (COVID19) Pandemic
(Google Drive document)

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UV Info:

Dosage Chart in µJ/cm²  (aka µW-s/cm²)  Human virii around around 6-8mJ/cm², so 6 W Bulb would need to be within 3" for 3-5 seconds, over every square centimeter

A 6 W UV bulb is 2250 µJ/cm²  (2.25 mJ) per second at 3"    So to get a 100 mJ dose, need ~45 seconds to disinfect, double the wattage, double the intensity.  (Mercury bulbs, which are 254 nm, are "SW" or Short Wave).  280nm is optimal for DNA destruction, but only unimaginably expensive LEDs can hit that exact wavelength.   This chart has the required dose of 254 nm (mercury vapor) bulbs.

Here's the tricky part:  Double the distance and the dose needs to be increased by 4x, (same for 1/4x dose @1.5")

A Mercury Vapor bulb will be marked "254 nm" or Hg.   It will also be CLEAR
A Phosphor UV-C bulb will be marked "SW/LW" or "Wideband" with phosphors to get more into the 280-300 range, these will be bluish white opaque, like a fluorescent bulb.  The wide band are rare and more spendy, but are what's used in steri-pens, for example

both types the bulb will turn on for 6000 hours, but only about 1000 hours usable due to darkening of the quartz envelope (Hg), or phosphors going bad (fluorescent UV-C).  Similar to tanning bed bulbs going bad, except in a much shorter wavelength.
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03-24-2020 14:00:54 CST UPDATE:   DIY N95-ish Fashion Face Masks filter materials and more instructions from member woozle


What Are The Best Materials for Making DIY Masks?







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*NEW*  4-3-2020

Sterilizing n95 Fact Sheet (PDF 1 page poster)

Information and FAQs on the Performance, Protection, and Sterilization of Face Mask Materials (University of Tennessee Research)

Stanford Paper on Masks/PPE, materials, and re-use

Cornell Followup on N95 re-use

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*NEW* 4-8-2020  Covid-19 may be a Blood Disease causing Lung problems, not the other way around.

Detailed reading on heme theory Chloroquine use (PDF)

 The virus is a positive-strand RNA virus with high homology to bat coronavirus. In this study, conserved domain analysis, homology modeling, and molecular docking were used to compare the biological roles of certain proteins of the novel coronavirus. The results showed the ORF8 and surface glycoprotein could bind to the porphyrin, respectively.At the same time, orf1ab, ORF10, and ORF3a proteins could coordinate attack the heme on the 1-beta chain of hemoglobin to dissociate the iron to form the porphyrin. The attack will cause less and less hemoglobin that can carry oxygen and carbon dioxide.  The lung cells have extremely intense poisoning and inflammatory due to the inability to exchange carbon dioxide and oxygen frequently, which eventually results in ground-glass-like lung images. The mechanism also interfered with the normal heme anabolic pathway of the human body, is expected to result in human disease. According to the validation analysis of these finds, chloroquine could prevent orf1ab, ORF3a, and ORF10 to attack the heme to form the porphyrin, and inhibit the binding of ORF8 and surface glycoproteins to porphyrins to a certain extent, effectively relieve the symptoms of respiratory distress.
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The above paper's theory on Covid-19 being a blood disease (Medium) in ELI5 English

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TL;DR Thread Summary (humor)


[color=#00ffff]Official Coronavirus guidelines?[/b][/color]

1. Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.

2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.

3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.

4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.

5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.

6. Gloves won't help, but they can still help.

7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it's important to GO OUT.

8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.

9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.

10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…

11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..

12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it's better not to go out, well, but no…

13. It's better to get some fresh air, but you get looked at very wrong when you get some fresh air, and most importantly, you don't go to parks or walk. But don’t sit down, except that you can do that now if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant (but not too old).

14. You can't go to retirement homes, but you have to take care of the elderly and bring food and medication.

15. If you are sick, you can't go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.

16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn't wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated outside for 3 hours. Pizza too?

17. Every disturbing article or disturbing interview starts with "I don't want to trigger panic, but…"

18. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but you can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.

19. You can walk around with a friend but not with your family if they don't live under the same roof.

20. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.

21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.

22. The virus stays in the air - well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.

23. We count the number of deaths but we don't know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were "almost dead" to find out if that's what they will die of…

24. We have no treatment, except that there may be one that apparently is not dangerous unless you take too much (which is the case with all medications).

25. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates… but we must no longer be locked up for that?
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Originally Posted By Getnlwr:
I just want to know why all the fucking weird shit comes out of china. Swine flu. Avian flu, SARS, Coronavirus... etc.
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Almost 18% of the world's population is Chinese....
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:18:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:24:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Getnlwr:
I just want to know why all the fucking weird shit comes out of china. Swine flu. Avian flu, SARS, Coronavirus... etc.
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Here you go:
China's Coronavirus is Much Worse Than You Think
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:24:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea:
San Francisco and Chinese New Year next week = I’m in trouble http://i.123g.us/c/ejan_chinese_happy/card/341803.gif
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No shit. Flew into Sac Saturday and flying out next week. Have to be healthy when I make it back.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:40:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
It’s purely for PR and impression management.  They have neither the ability nor the interest in seriously quarantining the area.
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Originally Posted By NorCalRT:
They can stop flights and trains, but good fucking luck stopping the flow of people in and out.
It’s purely for PR and impression management.  They have neither the ability nor the interest in seriously quarantining the area.
according to one report in a UK tabloid, there are road blocks on all roads leading out of the city.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:44:45 PM EDT
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China has never quaratined a city of 11 million people before.

Something is different this time.

Actions speak louder than words.

If only 543 cases and 17 deaths, why quarantine a city of 11 million people..
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:46:11 PM EDT
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Asian Drivers, No Survivors?

i'm glad i'm in an area 99% white meat
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:47:13 PM EDT
[#8]
Next breaking story, China nukes Wuhan in attempt to control outbreak.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:52:42 PM EDT
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As if we needed more Asians in Vegas with masks on.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:52:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mach:
China has never quaratined a city of 11 million people before.

Something is different this time.

Actions speak louder than words.

If only 543 cases and 17 deaths, why quarantine a city of 11 million people..
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Has anybody quarantined a city of 11 million people before?  I agree it seems a bit odd, the Chinese are all about making it look like they have things under control so they can save face.  Quarantining a major metropolis doesn't sound like anything is under control.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:56:38 PM EDT
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To give you an idea just how dangerous a deadly flu strain can be to a society, watch this Korean Film.  That is a very scary movie.

Korean Flu Film
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 6:58:38 PM EDT
[#12]
Fortune cookie says no worries
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:06:11 PM EDT
[#13]
We have real shit to worry about like vaping.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:10:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By macaho45:
We have real shit to worry about like vaping.
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Aren't those things made in China?
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:11:11 PM EDT
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Kinda late now that its gone across the Pacific.  Thanks Mao!
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:12:40 PM EDT
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It is too late. Only God Emperor Trump can save us now.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:15:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mach:
China has never quaratined a city of 11 million people before.

Something is different this time.

Actions speak louder than words.

If only 543 cases and 17 deaths, why quarantine a city of 11 million people..
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its actually closer to 19M now
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:15:57 PM EDT
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Well shit!

"Fairfax County schools are considering immediate "adjustments" to the student exchange program involving 21 middle school kids who arrived from Wuhan China in the last 48 hours. Parents are concerned the kids could carry the #coronavirus"

Update: "BREAKING: Fairfax County Schools decides out of an abundance of caution that exchange students from China will not visit schools, rather will tour cultural sites, find activities in DC area. Health officials say the risk of #coronavirus in kids is 'extremely low'" - WTF
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:22:31 PM EDT
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So it’s going to be Wuhan Pneumonia and the Boogaloo Flu now...
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:27:55 PM EDT
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Just wait until the #coronavirus reaches these lovely spots on the Left Coast.


Thanks California. Just effing thanks!
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:29:08 PM EDT
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Two things I can contribute:

I studied epidemiology a decent bit back in grad school (bioinformatics) and recall reading a paper simulating an airborne outbreak originating in Thailand. The biggest factor in quarantining the virus was how long it incubated for. Simulations with a 5 day incubation period were pretty bad, requiring a country to shut its borders within 72 hours of the first outbreak cluster to successfully contain it. There have been some reports that this virus has an incubation period up to 10 days, which is pretty bad.

Folks are already taking it very seriously here in the states. My girlfriend is a nurse and she said her hospital started a policy today of putting symptomatic recent travelers from China into airborne isolation.

Edit: no reason to panic about anything but now is a good time to revisit your preps. If you and your whole family were bedridden for a week could you manage with the supplies in your house right now?
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:34:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ziegenbock:
The CDC needs to stay on top of this shit.  Fucking air travel is going to kill us all
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Greta, is that you?
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:34:32 PM EDT
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My kid’s classmate is in China until mid February. If this shit doesn’t get under control, I don’t want my kid in that classroom for a bit when the student comes back from china.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:35:49 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/22/2020 7:37:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sketti:
Well shit!

"Fairfax County schools are considering immediate "adjustments" to the student exchange program involving 21 middle school kids who arrived from Wuhan China in the last 48 hours. Parents are concerned the kids could carry the #coronavirus"

Update: "BREAKING: Fairfax County Schools decides out of an abundance of caution that exchange students from China will not visit schools, rather will tour cultural sites, find activities in DC area. Health officials say the risk of #coronavirus in kids is 'extremely low'" - WTF
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Send them back!
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 8:38:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Getnlwr:
I just want to know why all the fucking weird shit comes out of china. Swine flu. Avian flu, SARS, Coronavirus... etc.
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wet markets, rural poor practices in congested cities.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 8:46:55 PM EDT
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I'm supposed to go to Shenzhen via Hong Kong in March. Eyeing this very closely.

I was in China during A.S.S. avian flu, swine flu, and SARS. If anyone was found to be sick they would find anyone that was on the plane with them and quarantine them and anyone that has been in contact with them.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 8:49:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LV1976:

Has anybody quarantined a city of 11 million people before?  I agree it seems a bit odd, the Chinese are all about making it look like they have things under control so they can save face.  Quarantining a major metropolis doesn't sound like anything is under control.
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11 million is just a town in China. Major metropolis in China is 2-4 times that number. I've been to Wuhan. By China standards it's small.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 8:53:11 PM EDT
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It's already known to be in the US, Taiwan, and Thailand, so quarantining Wuhan now is too F-ing late.

If it's known to be in the above three, it's surely in others but not proven, so unless the world goes full-Madagascar, it's a given that the Wuhan will be *everywhere* soon enough.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 8:55:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Getnlwr:
I just want to know why all the fucking weird shit comes out of china. Swine flu. Avian flu, SARS, Coronavirus... etc.
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The flu lives in people, birds, and pigs.  Certain parts of China generally have tremendously high density of all three, living in close proximity.  More chances for a new strain in one species to adapt to live in the other species.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 8:56:30 PM EDT
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Interesting video from China

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSpeaker2018/status/1219683350182428674
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 8:57:12 PM EDT
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It needs to reach India
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 9:08:10 PM EDT
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SEOUL: North Korea will ban foreign tourists to protect itself against a new SARS-like virus that has claimed at least nine lives in China and sickened hundreds, a major tour operator said.

Mr Cha Yeong-hyeong, head of the Dandong-based travel agency INDPRK, told Reuters the company was informed of the ban verbally by its North Korean counterpart on Tuesday.

The company was told an order banning entry of tourists from China would go into effect on Wednesday, with the restriction to last until a vaccine for the coronavirus is developed, said Mr Cha.

BTG International Travel & Tours confirmed that it had received a written message from its North Korean supplier, citing the North Korea travel administration saying customs had been closed as of Wednesday morning.

The North Korean government is preparing an official notice, and will later announce when tours can be resumed, the message said.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 9:09:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mach:
China has never quaratined a city of 11 million people before.

Something is different this time.

Actions speak louder than words.

If only 543 cases and 17 deaths, why quarantine a city of 11 million people..
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Because they are reporting the actual numbers?
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 9:10:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LV1976:

Has anybody quarantined a city of 11 million people before?  I agree it seems a bit odd, the Chinese are all about making it look like they have things under control so they can save face.  Quarantining a major metropolis doesn't sound like anything is under control.
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Kind of like Russia was when Chernobyl went hot?
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 9:12:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DVCER:
Those were some fast zombies.  I hate fast zombies.
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Originally Posted By s1rGr1nG0:
This is how "World War Z" started.

Those were some fast zombies.  I hate fast zombies.
That was the movie.  The movie is shit.

The book is great.
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Originally Posted By Sketti:
Well shit!

"Fairfax County schools are considering immediate "adjustments" to the student exchange program involving 21 middle school kids who arrived from Wuhan China in the last 48 hours. Parents are concerned the kids could carry the #coronavirus"

Update: "BREAKING: Fairfax County Schools decides out of an abundance of caution that exchange students from China will not visit schools, rather will tour cultural sites, find activities in DC area. Health officials say the risk of #coronavirus in kids is 'extremely low'" - WTF
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How about....hmmm....I dont know....FUCKING HOLDING THEM IN QUARANTINE for at least the suspected incubation period before making such a claim? If after a few days no one exhibits any symptoms at all...fine...our bad. If not...isolate and treat. Nope...we will just have them wander around the city
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 9:14:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wganz:
Just wait until the #coronavirus reaches these lovely spots on the Left Coast.
https://hoodline.imgix.net/uploads/story/image/28458/shotwell_tents.jpg?auto=format

Thanks California. Just effing thanks!
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From the looks of the picture, it might as well have already wiped them out
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 9:40:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sketti:
Well shit!

"Fairfax County schools are considering immediate "adjustments" to the student exchange program involving 21 middle school kids who arrived from Wuhan China in the last 48 hours. Parents are concerned the kids could carry the #coronavirus"

Update: "BREAKING: Fairfax County Schools decides out of an abundance of caution that exchange students from China will not visit schools, rather will tour cultural sites, find activities in DC area. Health officials say the risk of #coronavirus in kids is 'extremely low'" - WTF
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Are they going to visit the impeachment trial?
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 9:53:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TailHunter:
11 million is just a town in China. Major metropolis in China is 2-4 times that number. I've been to Wuhan. By China standards it's small.
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Originally Posted By TailHunter:
Originally Posted By LV1976:

Has anybody quarantined a city of 11 million people before?  I agree it seems a bit odd, the Chinese are all about making it look like they have things under control so they can save face.  Quarantining a major metropolis doesn't sound like anything is under control.
11 million is just a town in China. Major metropolis in China is 2-4 times that number. I've been to Wuhan. By China standards it's small.
Fair enough.  I qualify my statement with "in any sane kind of population density".
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 10:03:42 PM EDT
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Too late.
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Are they going to visit the impeachment trial?
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By Sketti:
Well shit!

"Fairfax County schools are considering immediate "adjustments" to the student exchange program involving 21 middle school kids who arrived from Wuhan China in the last 48 hours. Parents are concerned the kids could carry the #coronavirus"

Update: "BREAKING: Fairfax County Schools decides out of an abundance of caution that exchange students from China will not visit schools, rather will tour cultural sites, find activities in DC area. Health officials say the risk of #coronavirus in kids is 'extremely low'" - WTF
Are they going to visit the impeachment trial?
My nephew's class got to attend Trump's inauguration because his school really, really thought the Hilldog would win.

He got me an inauguration cap.

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Link Posted: 1/22/2020 10:19:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sketti:
Well shit!

"Fairfax County schools are considering immediate "adjustments" to the student exchange program involving 21 middle school kids who arrived from Wuhan China in the last 48 hours. Parents are concerned the kids could carry the #coronavirus"

Update: "BREAKING: Fairfax County Schools decides out of an abundance of caution that exchange students from China will not visit schools, rather will tour cultural sites, find activities in DC area. Health officials say the risk of #coronavirus in kids is 'extremely low'" - WTF
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They need to tour the Congessional office buildings.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 10:21:50 PM EDT
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How the fuck has the media not been able to come up with some kind of sensational name yet to send people into a panic?!?!!
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 10:29:16 PM EDT
[#46]
everybody knows that the common influenza virus causes anywhere between 300,000 and 650,000 deaths per year over the entire planet right?  world war 1 was called a draw on account of the Spanish Flu which took somewhere between 20-50 million lives.  viruses have been a companion to human evolution for as long as we have walked on this planet, every now and again a particularly virulent strain arises, sticks around for a while and then fades away.  just another day on planet Earth.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 10:33:49 PM EDT
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My wife and I were discussing the CDC spokesman news shot this am. "we have a playbook for that" doesn't fill me with confidence when line 37 says "blockade the city and let the disease burn itself out".
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 11:28:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sketti:
Well shit!

"Fairfax County schools are considering immediate "adjustments" to the student exchange program involving 21 middle school kids who arrived from Wuhan China in the last 48 hours. Parents are concerned the kids could carry the #coronavirus"

Update: "BREAKING: Fairfax County Schools decides out of an abundance of caution that exchange students from China will not visit schools, rather will tour cultural sites, find activities in DC area. Health officials say the risk of #coronavirus in kids is 'extremely low'" - WTF
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Maybe they can meet with Schiff and Pelosi?  Maybe a few others too.
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 11:41:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By navvet89:
My wife and I were discussing the CDC spokesman news shot this am. "we have a playbook for that" doesn't fill me with confidence when line 37 says "blockade the city and let the disease burn itself out".
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Link?
Link Posted: 1/22/2020 11:44:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Socio:
Last I heard China’s death count is at 17.
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China is known for being honest.
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