Large cache of weapons found in home with young children

Story Updated: May 17, 2007 at 6:56 AM PDT
By KOMO Staff & News Services

SILVERDALE , Wash. - Authorities searching a home in Silverdale Tuesday night uncovered a cache of weaponry and body armor, including at least eight handguns, four rifles, grenades, two shotguns and thousands of ammunition magazines.

That's according to the search warrant affidavit filed in Kitsap County Superior Court in Port Orchard.

A 38-year-old man who owns the house was arrested for possession of explosives and booked into the Kitsap County Jail. Brian Kelly Sandberg reportedly lived at the house with his wife and their four young children.

According to court documents, Sandberg's wife took pictures of the weapons and tipped off police out of fear one of their children may get a hold of the weapons. Authorities served a search warrant on the house Tuesday after she reported the man had loaded pistols and rifles around the house in plain view and not locked up as well as a rifle with a M203 grenade launcher and possible land mines.

"Amongst the numerous hand-held firearms that he had, there were explosive activating devices, fuses, grenades," said Kitsap County sheriff's spokesman Scott Wilson. "This individual was certainly gearing up with some items that would not normally be found in a civilian community. What concerns us the most is the fact that he had illegal explosives and young children in that house."

Sandberg made his first appearance in Kitsap County Superior Court Wednesday afternoon. Judge Leonard Costello found enough probable cause to hold Sandberg on a charge of possessing explosives without a license. Bail was set at $100,000.

Sheriff's deputies and detectives, along with a Bremerton police officer with the State Patrol's bomb squad and agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found most of the weapons in the man's bedroom and living room. It is not known what he planned to do with the weapons.

So whats his screen name?

OH NO SAVE THE CHILDREN.

this is another bullshit story.

Somebody got sloppy.

According to court documents, Sandberg's wife took pictures of the weapons and tipped off police out of fear one of their children may get a hold of the weapons. Authorities served a search warrant on the house Tuesday after she reported the man had loaded pistols and rifles around the house in plain view and not locked up as well as a rifle with a M203 grenade launcher and possible land mines.

OH gee???

THE WIFE FUCKING IS TRYING TO USE THIS AGAINST THE GUY IN A DIVORCE GUARANTEED.

Fucking women.

also, who wants to bet they were dummy grenades?

Anyone? I got 5 for the cops to come sieze.

Quoted: According to court documents, Sandberg's wife took pictures of the weapons and tipped off police out of fear one of their children may get a hold of the weapons. Authorities served a search warrant on the house Tuesday after she reported the man had loaded pistols and rifles around the house in plain view and not locked up as well as a rifle with a M203 grenade launcher and possible land mines. OH gee??? THE WIFE FUCKING IS TRYING TO USE THIS AGAINST THE GUY IN A DIVORCE GUARANTEED.

+1.

Watch for the Order of Protection so that, even if all charges are dropped, a) He'll get Lautenberg'd out of owning guns and b) she can apply for an "emergency custody order".

Quoted: "This individual was certainly gearing up with some items that would not normally be found in a civilian community. What concerns us the most is the fact that he had illegal explosives and young children in that house."

because the illegal kind are way more likely to blow up around kids than those with an ATF form accompanying them.

Quoted: So whats his screen name?

That was funny sometime in 2002.

Quoted: Quoted: "This individual was certainly gearing up with some items that would not normally be found in a civilian community. What concerns us the most is the fact that he had illegal explosives and young children in that house." because the illegal kind are way more likely to blow up around kids than those with an ATF form accompanying them.

lol

"Fact"

wtf?

Its already a fact before anyone that has any idea what they are looking at in the first place, makes the decision.

Watch out guys, the JBT's that have never seen an explosive except for in the movies have already decided that your dummy grenades and flares, and probably some 4th of july fireworks are ILLEGAL EXPLOSIVES!

To jail you go sir such things are facts!!

I really hate these news articles... gah burns me up so bad.

Where do you even GET landmines?

Amazong what ex-wives or wives will do. Mine (ex) said in court I had illeagal Uzis and handgrenades. She bought me the damn Uzi for a b-day present and I sold it years before the divorce(no it was not illeagal and I do not own handgrenades). The judge did not buy it and it was all dissmissed.

Quoted: Where do you even GET landmines?

I coulda sworn you can buy fake land mines. its like a land mine case or some shit.

If not, they probably found some weights from the guys gym set, and grabbed em all up thinking they were "olympic" mines.

Olympic mines are all made for terrorists.

Ooh!  Ooh!  

I get to call DUPE!

Go, me!

Quoted: It is not known what he planned to do with the weapons.

blow stuff up, duhhh

Quoted: Ooh!  Ooh!   I get to call DUPE! Go, me!

You can't call dupe on something in a different forum. Your dupe has been canceled.

Well, a pdf has been released by the Kitsap co. sherrifs office.

Since I live about 15 minutes from the place, I thought i'd give an update.

The release lists the following as illegal(with commentary).

4 40mm flares.....17 40mm chalk rounds...all classified as high
explosives?....sombody is smoking crack.

two smoke grenades and one cs grenade....not illegal in the slightest, but
once again listed as such.....:-/

M-142 and M-5 fireing devices.  No stipulation if they were inactive or not,
and as far as anybody knows, still not illegal since all they are is
basically a trip activated fuse igniter that consists of a tube with a
shotgun primer that is set to go off when a pin is pulled and a striker hits
the primer which in turn is supposed to activate whatever explosive it is
attached to.  Grenade fuzes work exactly the same.  Since when are shotgun
primers and odd contraptions for setting them off illegal?  Without a booby
trap or explosive, these are not illegal.

Live grenade fuses.......probably from smoke grenades, but lo and behold,
they make great copy as "live grenade fuzes" when hanging a guy in the court
of publlic opinion. especially when they list them as for "training"
grenades then comment that they can be used in "real" grenades, of which
none were found....:-/    Not to forget that they state "for military use
only"...uumm...what exactly does that mean?  Unless the fuses contained some
form of restricted explosive, such as PETN or the like, how does having them
make them illegal?

Then they list the inactive mines and rockets with no apparent reason other
then to turn the sheeple against the guy even more as we all know that these
items are in NO way illegal.

A list of weaponry was not given, though a gentleman on a local mailing list was watching the news and caught the following on a quick news blurb when the police were showing the media some of its paperwork.

>>Sig Sauer P226 in case. Serial MSW 1841.  Bedroom.
>>Benelli Super 90 with sling and flashlight. Serial M190653. Bedroom.
>>H+K MP5 in case with magazines.
>>Ruger MK3 in case with magazines. Serial 22740849. Bedroom.
>>HK USP45 in case with magazines.
>>Sig Sauer P226 with magazines [something]
>>Sig Sauer P226 with laser mount

So.  Of the given items, who wants to argue that any are illegal?

So far, about the only things that I can even remotly believe could be
illegal are the  40mm flare rounds as I personally don't know the NFA rules
regarding those,  and the possible "live grenade fuzes if they do in fact
contain some sort of HE other then the normal shorgun primer and a piece of
cannon fuze.

The police are digging for anything they can find, are putting out lots of
irrelevant info in the hopes that sombody will roll over on the guy and give
them some real dirt to work with because they know they are grasping at
straws.

The worst part is that the PDF file listed everything as without a doubt as
ILLEGAL.

sickening.


edited to add:  If anybody wants the PDF file, just ask.  Especially if you can open it and save it somewhere where everyone else can access it from a link here.

Quoted: Quoted: It is not known what he planned to do with the weapons. blow stuff up, duhhh

i had a cashier at academy ask me what i was going to do with all the bullets i was buying.


"i'm gunna shoot stuff!"


i dunno, we both thought it was pretty funny

The grenade fuzes are training fuzes used in the blue metal body pratice grenades. You see them at gunshows once in a while.

We'll have to see if the MP5 is papered. Ohterwise I have not seen a single illegal thing on any of the lists.

What are the chances it IS an MP5, not an hk(91?, someone help me here.). You know the semi version, that were sold for a while. And some cop picked it up and said MP5. In his paperwork completely ignoring the stamp on the side of the gun??

Quoted: Well, a pdf has been released by the Kitsap co. sherrifs office. Since I live about 15 minutes from the place, I thought i'd give an update. The release lists the following as illegal(with commentary). 4 40mm flares.....17 40mm chalk rounds...all classified as high explosives?....sombody is smoking crack. two smoke grenades and one cs grenade....not illegal in the slightest, but once again listed as such.....:-/ M-142 and M-5 fireing devices.  No stipulation if they were inactive or not, and as far as anybody knows, still not illegal since all they are is basically a trip activated fuse igniter that consists of a tube with a shotgun primer that is set to go off when a pin is pulled and a striker hits the primer which in turn is supposed to activate whatever explosive it is attached to.  Grenade fuzes work exactly the same.  Since when are shotgun primers and odd contraptions for setting them off illegal?  Without a booby trap or explosive, these are not illegal. Live grenade fuses.......probably from smoke grenades, but lo and behold, they make great copy as "live grenade fuzes" when hanging a guy in the court of publlic opinion. especially when they list them as for "training" grenades then comment that they can be used in "real" grenades, of which none were found....:-/    Not to forget that they state "for military use only"...uumm...what exactly does that mean?  Unless the fuses contained some form of restricted explosive, such as PETN or the like, how does having them make them illegal? Then they list the inactive mines and rockets with no apparent reason other then to turn the sheeple against the guy even more as we all know that these items are in NO way illegal. A list of weaponry was not given, though a gentleman on a local mailing list was watching the news and caught the following on a quick news blurb when the police were showing the media some of its paperwork. >>Sig Sauer P226 in case. Serial MSW 1841.  Bedroom. >>Benelli Super 90 with sling and flashlight. Serial M190653. Bedroom. >>H+K MP5 in case with magazines. >>Ruger MK3 in case with magazines. Serial 22740849. Bedroom. >>HK USP45 in case with magazines. >>Sig Sauer P226 with magazines [something] >>Sig Sauer P226 with laser mount So.  Of the given items, who wants to argue that any are illegal? So far, about the only things that I can even remotly believe could be illegal are the  40mm flare rounds as I personally don't know the NFA rules regarding those,  and the possible "live grenade fuzes if they do in fact contain some sort of HE other then the normal shorgun primer and a piece of cannon fuze. The police are digging for anything they can find, are putting out lots of irrelevant info in the hopes that sombody will roll over on the guy and give them some real dirt to work with because they know they are grasping at straws. The worst part is that the PDF file listed everything as without a doubt as ILLEGAL. sickening. edited to add:  If anybody wants the PDF file, just ask.  Especially if you can open it and save it somewhere where everyone else can access it from a link here.

how can we help this guy?

they sell chalk and flare rounds for the launchers. wow I hope this guy does not get crucified.


when I first read the top before the update I even though " flare and smoke/cs grenades and all legal stuff" and sure enough...just like CSI new york the other night with the "evil 50.cal" that has no purpose

the media already labeled this guy a waco, the wife probably lied about much of  it....

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It is not known what he planned to do with the weapons. blow stuff up, duhhh i had a cashier at academy ask me what i was going to do with all the bullets i was buying. "i'm gunna shoot stuff!" i dunno, we both thought it was pretty funny

makes me wonder what kind of answer they expected.
"I'm going to whack it with a hammer and see what happens"  
"here's your sign"

wow....

We really need to find a way to contact this guy or his family and offer up some support.

bullshit!

So 8 handguns and 4 rifles is considered a weapons cache these days?

Are they sure that those aren't for a 37mm flare launcher?

I remember a story a while back where the police called a seized 37mm flare launcher a "weapon of mass destruction."  

ETA:

...The Buncombe County Anti-Crime Task Force charged Robert Edwards with possessing a weapon of mass destruction....

www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770425154

Quoted: So 8 handguns and 4 rifles is considered a weapons cache these days?

they are running out of guys with 10 handguns and 6 rifles apparently.

Watch out, the guys have 1,000's of rounds of ammo... OH NOZ!

All I gots to say is good thing I'm already divorced,
and lost all my stuff in a tragic boating accident.  

Amateur




ZM

why are you guys trying to confuse the issue by stating facts ?

Quoted: Quoted: Watch out, the guys have 1,000's of rounds of ammo... OH NOZ!

understatement of the year award



also would this be considered thought crime, newspeak, or thought police?

height=8

Quoted: Large cache of weapons found in home with young children Story Updated: May 17, 2007 at 6:56 AM PDT By KOMO Staff & News Services SILVERDALE , Wash. - Authorities searching a home in Silverdale Tuesday night uncovered a cache of weaponry and body armor, including at least eight handguns, four rifles, grenades, two shotguns and thousands of ammunition magazines. That's according to the search warrant affidavit filed in Kitsap County Superior Court in Port Orchard. A 38-year-old man who owns the house was arrested for possession of explosives and booked into the Kitsap County Jail. Brian Kelly Sandberg reportedly lived at the house with his wife and their four young children. According to court documents, Sandberg's wife took pictures of the weapons and tipped off police out of fear one of their children may get a hold of the weapons. Authorities served a search warrant on the house Tuesday after she reported the man had loaded pistols and rifles around the house in plain view and not locked up as well as a rifle with a M203 grenade launcher and possible land mines. "Amongst the numerous hand-held firearms that he had, there were explosive activating devices, fuses, grenades," said Kitsap County sheriff's spokesman Scott Wilson. "This individual was certainly gearing up with some items that would not normally be found in a civilian community. What concerns us the most is the fact that he had illegal explosives and young children in that house." Sandberg made his first appearance in Kitsap County Superior Court Wednesday afternoon. Judge Leonard Costello found enough probable cause to hold Sandberg on a charge of possessing explosives without a license. Bail was set at $100,000. Sheriff's deputies and detectives, along with a Bremerton police officer with the State Patrol's bomb squad and agents with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found most of the weapons in the man's bedroom and living room. It is not known what he planned to do with the weapons.

The pyro aside, thst sounds a lot like MY house.





The police will protect you - innocent people never get charged with anything they didn't do.

Quoted: The police will protect you - innocent people never get charged with anything they didn't do.

I assume that's sarcasm.  Of course innocent people get charged with things they didn't do! If they didn't, we wouldn't need trials, since we would know that anyone who got charged had actually committed a crime.

I think you mean "innocent people never get convicted of anything they didn't do."

It is not known what he planned to do with the weapons.

This is the line that pisses ME off!

Since when is it against the law to have something LEGAL - with which you've done nothing ILLEGAL?!?

I can't imagine a flare being legally considered a "weapon of mass destruction." Nor, a couple fuses!

Hopefully, this guy gets a good lawyer and sues the shit out of the county/state - and his (soon to be), ex-wife!

What FUCKIN' BULLSHIT!

Quoted: Quoted: The police will protect you - innocent people never get charged with anything they didn't do. I assume that's sarcasm.  Of course innocent people get charged with things they didn't do! If they didn't, we wouldn't need trials, since we would know that anyone who got charged had actually committed a crime. I think you mean "innocent people never get convicted of anything they didn't do."

Tell that to the numerous guys that have been convicted of rape and even murder, only to be released years or decades later after DNA became viable as evidence. DNA isn't going to be of any help to this guy.

Quoted: Quoted: So whats his screen name? That was funny sometime in 2002.

Actually, it's still funny.

I got's the evil gunns offda stweet.................

Quoted: Where do you even GET landmines?

From the ice cream truck that sells the full auto AK-47's of course.  It sounds like everything he has is legal except for maybe the MP5 which is probably a HK 91.  Hopefully he sues his wife and legal system then buys some full auto goodies.  You know the kind that can give a gun nut woodies.

Quoted: Quoted: The police will protect you - innocent people never get charged with anything they didn't do. I assume that's sarcasm.  Of course innocent people get charged with things they didn't do! If they didn't, we wouldn't need trials, since we would know that anyone who got charged had actually committed a crime. I think you mean "innocent people never get convicted of anything they didn't do."

I took it to mean:

Innocent people will never

have their house broken into by the local swat team backed up by the FBI, ATF, and other 'drug fighting' military assets,
have their possessions vigorously tossed out onto the lawn to be paraded in front of the media and then confiscated,
be the victim of an official .gov sponsored smear campaign to convince the public that they are meth smoking, militia, KKK, racists, tax-dodging, child molesting/ endangering, wife beating, kiddie porn masterbating bastards, who have secret fantasies of overthrowing the government,
be tossed in prison until the facts are all in,
loose their jobs, OR
use all of their life savings after selling everything they own to hire an attorney to fight them in court so they can prove their innocence.

The .gov is always here to help. Go along to survive cause if you make it difficult you will regret it. After all if you don't have anything to hide you wouldn't mind a search of the premises, your effects, your body, or your mind?

Yep, if you're not doing anything wrong there isn't anything to fear.

IMHO, wifey wants a divorce:

Sandberg was described by his wife as a "former KKK member" who was on "heavy doses of methadone," according to the search warrant affidavit filed in Kitsap County Superior Court. He was arrested and booked into the Kitsap County jail at about 11 p.m. Tuesday. Prosecutors had requested the bail amount because of the children at his home, and that if he did post bail, "he wasn’t welcome" at the Hamilton Place home he lived in, deputy prosecutor Bonnie Martin said.

LINK
That article also makes it clear the guy has a concealed carry permit, so he can't have much of a record.  

It's a good thing they got those flares away from the kids.  Let this serve notice to anyone else who has practice rounds or flares and kids at home:  DON'T DO IT!  Think of your poor children!

Furthermore, anyone with more than one firearm and kids at home has a weapons cache, and is endangering his kids.  HOW COULD YOU?!  YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK!

We're in big trouble, guys, as there must be weapons caches at least this big, if not larger EVERYWHERE!!!  I can distincly remember selling multiple firearms to several individuals who had kids when I worked at an FFL.  OH TEH NOES!

The newspaper suggested he would be charged with possession of stolen property.  It emphasized that the trip wires, empty AT-4 Anti-armor weapons, and M72 (didn't say whether empty or not) anti-armor rockets were all 'made only for the military.'

May the power of Christ protect me if these people ever get a hint about what's in my house.

This is repugnant.

Quoted: The newspaper suggested he would be charged with possession of stolen property.  It emphasized that the trip wires, empty AT-4 Anti-armor weapons, and M72 (didn't say whether empty or not) anti-armor rockets were all 'made only for the military.'

Scary thought when it comes to all of the LEO marked mags, LEO only TAP ammo and LEO only Colt rifles most of us probably have.

see you in 10.

Quoted: Where do you even GET landmines?

Mexican border?

Of course, I mean Mexico's southern border

It's almost like Deja Vu all over again...

Other items confiscated included at least eight handguns, four rifles, grenades, two shotguns and "thousands" of ammunition magazines, according to court documents. A report also included information that Sandberg had recently went to a store near Fort Lewis to purchase "armored plates" for one of his bulletproof vests, and that loaded pistols were often in plain view of his four children, ages 15, 11, 8 and 5. Scott Wilson, sheriff’s spokesman, said it is still unclear what he planned to do with the arsenal, but he confirmed that it went well beyond "his Second Amendment rights."

The wife wanted him gone.

So, how much child support does she think she will get if the hubby is locked up?

I am curious to see if the M203 was a flare launcher or a real M203 however...

Scott Wilson, sheriff’s spokesman, said it is still unclear what he planned to do with the arsenal, but he confirmed that it went well beyond "his Second Amendment rights."

Well, my 1st Amendment rights tell me you should have their ass Zumboed...