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Posted: 4/27/2024 7:09:15 AM EDT
Republicans just love to shoot themselves in the foot! Seriously why write about that?
Trump VP contender Kristi Noem writes of killing dog – and goat – in new book “Cricket was a wirehair pointer, about 14 months old,” the South Dakota governor writes in a new book, adding that the dog, a female, had an “aggressive personality” and needed to be trained to be used for hunting pheasant. What unfolds over the next few pages shows how that effort went very wrong indeed – and, remarkably, how Cricket was not the only domestic animal Noem chose to kill one day in hunting season. View Quote She includes her story about the ill-fated Cricket, she says, to illustrate her willingness, in politics as well as in South Dakota life, to do anything “difficult, messy and ugly” if it simply needs to be done. By taking Cricket on a pheasant hunt with older dogs, Noem says, she hoped to calm the young dog down and begin to teach her how to behave. Unfortunately, Cricket ruined the hunt, going “out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life”. Noem describes calling Cricket, then using an electronic collar to attempt to bring her under control. Nothing worked. View Quote “I hated that dog,” Noem writes, adding that Cricket had proved herself “untrainable”, “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with” and “less than worthless … as a hunting dog”. “At that moment,” Noem says, “I realised I had to put her down.” Noem, who also represented her state in Congress for eight years, got her gun, then led Cricket to a gravel pit. View Quote “It was not a pleasant job,” she writes, “but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realised another unpleasant job needed to be done.” Incredibly, Noem’s tale of slaughter is not finished. Her family, she writes, also owned a male goat that was “nasty and mean”, because it had not been castrated. Furthermore, the goat smelled “disgusting, musky, rancid” and “loved to chase” Noem’s children, knocking them down and ruining their clothes. Noem decided to kill the unnamed goat the same way she had just killed Cricket the dog. But though she “dragged him to a gravel pit”, the goat jumped as she shot and therefore survived the wound. Noem says she went back to her truck, retrieved another shell, then “hurried back to the gravel pit and put him down”. View Quote This is why women don’t belong in politics and leadership positions imho. Sounds like she got all emotionally overwhelmed and went on a killing spree. |
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She’s a semi attractive female who likes to be in charge. Of course she’s nuts.
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Quoted: Republicans just love to shoot themselves in the foot! Seriously why write about that? Trump VP contender Kristi Noem writes of killing dog – and goat – in new book “Cricket was a wirehair pointer, about 14 months old,” the South Dakota governor writes in a new book, adding that the dog, a female, had an “aggressive personality” and needed to be trained to be used for hunting pheasant. What unfolds over the next few pages shows how that effort went very wrong indeed – and, remarkably, how Cricket was not the only domestic animal Noem chose to kill one day in hunting season. View Quote She includes her story about the ill-fated Cricket, she says, to illustrate her willingness, in politics as well as in South Dakota life, to do anything “difficult, messy and ugly” if it simply needs to be done. By taking Cricket on a pheasant hunt with older dogs, Noem says, she hoped to calm the young dog down and begin to teach her how to behave. Unfortunately, Cricket ruined the hunt, going “out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life”. Noem describes calling Cricket, then using an electronic collar to attempt to bring her under control. Nothing worked. View Quote “I hated that dog,” Noem writes, adding that Cricket had proved herself “untrainable”, “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with” and “less than worthless … as a hunting dog”. “At that moment,” Noem says, “I realised I had to put her down.” Noem, who also represented her state in Congress for eight years, got her gun, then led Cricket to a gravel pit. View Quote “It was not a pleasant job,” she writes, “but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realised another unpleasant job needed to be done.” Incredibly, Noem’s tale of slaughter is not finished. Her family, she writes, also owned a male goat that was “nasty and mean”, because it had not been castrated. Furthermore, the goat smelled “disgusting, musky, rancid” and “loved to chase” Noem’s children, knocking them down and ruining their clothes. Noem decided to kill the unnamed goat the same way she had just killed Cricket the dog. But though she “dragged him to a gravel pit”, the goat jumped as she shot and therefore survived the wound. Noem says she went back to her truck, retrieved another shell, then “hurried back to the gravel pit and put him down”. View Quote This is why women don’t belong in politics and leadership positions imho. Sounds like she got all emotionally overwhelmed and went on a killing spree. View Quote Has nothing to do with her being a woman. |
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Why would you even tell that story? I mean what good can come from it?
Oh well, at least she’s still hot, so she has that going for her. |
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Quoted: That’s farm life. View Quote If she's a moron, yes. The dog analogy is either made-up bullshit to make her sound tough, or it illustrates the complete failure of a hunter to adapt their training to the dog. I've had GWP's my whole life, and my father had them for 50 years of his; they aren't untrainable. Some just require different methods and patience. If the dog had made it to 14 months as was as uncontrollable as claimed, there is only the owner to blame. |
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Quoted: That’s farm life. View Quote Having grown up on a farm I will agree to an extent. Shooting a healthy dog because it was poorly behaved? It depends if it was attacking PEOPLE in which case fine. Just not properly trained? Give it to some city folk who can probably turn the behavior around and have a loving family pet. Goats are nasty and Billys are doubly so. Writing about either and not realizing it will only be used against you? Poor enough judgment I would not want her making decisions of importance |
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Now these are the sorts of anecdotes that resonate with voters!
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Quoted: A wire hair pointer was too dangerous? A pointer? View Quote Apparently. Rip Cricket Attached File |
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The dog should have been put down and doing it the way she did was fine. She should have known better than to have put it in a book. We have too many who saved who types.
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Cases like this are just a flat out failure of the owner. She couldn't do her part and probably thought killing a dog she couldn't train was better than admitting failure and giving it to someone.
Solid leadership +1 |
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Quoted: The dog should have been put down and doing it the way she did was fine. She should have known better than to have put it in a book. We have too many who saved who types. View Quote You are basing that determination on what exactly? Her attempt at a self-serving but utterly tone deaf "strong women does what needs to be done" narrative of events? If she is as poor a dog trainer as she is at knowing how a story like this will impact her politically I don't exactly think I would be too quick to buy that is the way it really went down. |
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Quoted: Quoted: So thinking it ins't appropriate to kill a dog because you are a shitty trainer makes you a simp...got it... I'm not sure you got this right... If it was meant as before the Simps for Noem then yes, I interpreted it incorrectly so I deleted the first post. |
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Maybe she's trying to tell the people in favor of abortions that although she's not in favor of them, they are of the same mindset and do have some common ground.
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Quoted: You are basing that determination on what exactly? Her attempt at a self-serving but utterly tone deaf "strong women does what needs to be done" narrative of events? If she is as poor a dog trainer as she is at knowing how a story like this will impact her politically I don't exactly think I would be too quick to buy that is the way it really went down. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The dog should have been put down and doing it the way she did was fine. She should have known better than to have put it in a book. We have too many who saved who types. You are basing that determination on what exactly? Her attempt at a self-serving but utterly tone deaf "strong women does what needs to be done" narrative of events? If she is as poor a dog trainer as she is at knowing how a story like this will impact her politically I don't exactly think I would be too quick to buy that is the way it really went down. I'm 50/50 leaning towards this sounding like a situation that was twisted into an attempt to be a rural-girl-boss-that-can-handle-tough-decisions. Such as maybe the dog had a terminal illness, and the ghost-writer was asking for a story that could be used to illustrate how she can do anything necessary to "get the job done", so let's just "modify" it a bit. |
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“dangerous to anyone she came in contact with”
I don't expect the media to tell the full story. Oh heres some op left out of his quotes. Then, on the way home after the hunt, as Noem stopped to talk to a local family, Cricket escaped Noem’s truck and attacked the family’s chickens, “grabb[ing] one chicken at a time, crunching it to death with one bite, then dropping it to attack another”. Cricket the untrainable dog, Noem writes, behaved like “a trained assassin”. When Noem finally grabbed Cricket, she says, the dog “whipped around to bite me”. |
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Quoted: You are basing that determination on what exactly? Her attempt at a self-serving but utterly tone deaf "strong women does what needs to be done" narrative of events? If she is as poor a dog trainer as she is at knowing how a story like this will impact her politically I don't exactly think I would be too quick to buy that is the way it really went down. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The dog should have been put down and doing it the way she did was fine. She should have known better than to have put it in a book. We have too many who saved who types. You are basing that determination on what exactly? Her attempt at a self-serving but utterly tone deaf "strong women does what needs to be done" narrative of events? If she is as poor a dog trainer as she is at knowing how a story like this will impact her politically I don't exactly think I would be too quick to buy that is the way it really went down. Right now the story is, the dog killed chickens and bit her. It was fine to put the dog down. |
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Quoted: This is why women don’t belong in politics and leadership positions imho. Sounds like she got all emotionally overwhelmed and went on a killing spree. View Quote You're absolutely right. Throughout history men have amassed a flawless record in politics and federal leadership positions. List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes |
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She just went into the wrong zone on the hot/crazy matrix. And she can kiss her chance at VP goodbye. |
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Yeah, I don’t think I would brag about any of that
She is trying to project herself as “tough” but it is coming across as being irresponsible, on many levels. Also, that dog behaved badly because she was a bad owner. ETA- I don’t know about the goat. Goats tend to be assholes anyway. |
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Quoted: You can tell the people that spent zero time on a farm. View Quote A bird dog is part of a hobby though. Its death isn’t a planned part of the businesses operation. A decent person would take a dog that doesn’t hunt to a shelter and let the shelter people know it’s a pet-only situation. This wasn’t a “had to do it” thing, it was “don’t want to deal with this anymore”. |
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Dummy. How is it that people on "our side" are so fucking clueless? The other side played a long game that lasted 100 years. Our side doesn't when to STFU.
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Quoted: Has nothing to do with her being a woman. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Republicans just love to shoot themselves in the foot! Seriously why write about that? Trump VP contender Kristi Noem writes of killing dog – and goat – in new book “Cricket was a wirehair pointer, about 14 months old,” the South Dakota governor writes in a new book, adding that the dog, a female, had an “aggressive personality” and needed to be trained to be used for hunting pheasant. What unfolds over the next few pages shows how that effort went very wrong indeed – and, remarkably, how Cricket was not the only domestic animal Noem chose to kill one day in hunting season. She includes her story about the ill-fated Cricket, she says, to illustrate her willingness, in politics as well as in South Dakota life, to do anything “difficult, messy and ugly” if it simply needs to be done. By taking Cricket on a pheasant hunt with older dogs, Noem says, she hoped to calm the young dog down and begin to teach her how to behave. Unfortunately, Cricket ruined the hunt, going “out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and having the time of her life”. Noem describes calling Cricket, then using an electronic collar to attempt to bring her under control. Nothing worked. “I hated that dog,” Noem writes, adding that Cricket had proved herself “untrainable”, “dangerous to anyone she came in contact with” and “less than worthless … as a hunting dog”. “At that moment,” Noem says, “I realised I had to put her down.” Noem, who also represented her state in Congress for eight years, got her gun, then led Cricket to a gravel pit. “It was not a pleasant job,” she writes, “but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realised another unpleasant job needed to be done.” Incredibly, Noem’s tale of slaughter is not finished. Her family, she writes, also owned a male goat that was “nasty and mean”, because it had not been castrated. Furthermore, the goat smelled “disgusting, musky, rancid” and “loved to chase” Noem’s children, knocking them down and ruining their clothes. Noem decided to kill the unnamed goat the same way she had just killed Cricket the dog. But though she “dragged him to a gravel pit”, the goat jumped as she shot and therefore survived the wound. Noem says she went back to her truck, retrieved another shell, then “hurried back to the gravel pit and put him down”. This is why women don’t belong in politics and leadership positions imho. Sounds like she got all emotionally overwhelmed and went on a killing spree. Has nothing to do with her being a woman. Oh, I think it certainly does! |
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Rescue?
My wife and I have adopted seven rescue Great Pyrenees all had some sort of behavior or physical issue that had to be dealt with overtime. Never had take any of them out to the pasture and shoot them. BTW, I grew up on a farm and my father never shot a farm dog. Take to the Vet and have them put down. Sounds lazy or made up. ‘ |
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only on ArfCom.
men play tough saying things like animals should be put down. then when someone does it, they clutch pearls and whine. alot of dogs have to or should be killed. its a sad part of dealing with them. |
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Sometimes you need to keep parts of your life secret.
Not everyone will understand. |
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Quoted: That’s farm life. View Quote Bullshit. She's too busy playing girl boss games to train the dog so the dog - with all that energy - went wild. She should have had someone training the dog from the puppy stage. Telling that story now is political naivete and will not endure her to voters that don't hunt. |
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