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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:13:10 AM EDT
My son is really into gaming. I've tried playing a few and I hate them. There's too much going on, shits too quick and I find them very difficult to play. But the worst part of all are the multiple accounts and sign-ins and you have to get all these downloads and updates and they make it very difficult to just do normal shit. It's all a scam just to grab more $$ from people. Fuckin assholes.
Video games from the 80s and 90s were awesome and fun. They can take all this online bullshit and go fuck themselves with it. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:14:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MidwestJ]
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You’re not entirely wrong, OP.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:15:37 AM EDT
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I still have my original Nintendo and I play it every once in a while. Looking forward to this though.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:16:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Jayne_Cobb]
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Playing original games that I remember from growing up vs the present steam versions is frustrating because they won't leave the damn source code alone.
Buffing and nerfing a 30 year old game every few months is just plain weird. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:17:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: Playing original games that I remember from growing up vs the present steam versions is frustrating because they won't leave the damn source code alone. Buffing and nerfing a 30 year old game every few months is just plain weird. What 30 year old game is getting changes to the gameplay regularly? Or do you just mean a re-release or remaster? |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:19:31 AM EDT
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I played the newest Mario with my son and there was so much shit going on in the screen that I could hardly track my player. So many needless little animated elements, weather effects, lens glare, glitter, shit flying past the screen, etc.
At one point I just didn't want to play any more. Made me feel old. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:20:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Tuco22]
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Yeah its all pretty much gone to shit
From  To this  The first 2 minutes of this 2 hour video pretty well summarize how fucked up its become.  The Masterpiece MWIII Campaign (it got worse) |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:21:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Echd: What 30 year old game is getting changes to the gameplay regularly? Or do you just mean a re-release or remaster? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Echd: Originally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: Playing original games that I remember from growing up vs the present steam versions is frustrating because they won't leave the damn source code alone. Buffing and nerfing a 30 year old game every few months is just plain weird. What 30 year old game is getting changes to the gameplay regularly? Or do you just mean a re-release or remaster? Age of Empires 2 is 25 years old and gets tweaks, new units, and occasional new civs. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:23:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:24:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MidwestJ: You’re not entirely wrong, OP. I would tend to agree with you Yup |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:25:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: My son is really into gaming. I've tried playing a few and I hate them. There's too much going on, shits too quick and I find them very difficult to play. But the worst part of all are the multiple accounts and sign-ins and you have to get all these downloads and updates and they make it very difficult to just do normal shit. It's all a scam just to grab more $$ from people. Fuckin assholes. Video games from the 80s and 90s were awesome and fun. They can take all this online bullshit and go fuck themselves with it. Yeah it's annoying. Every company has it's own launcher these days, too. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:25:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: A slight exaggeration: Age of Empires 2 is 25 years old and gets tweaks, new units, and occasional new civs. Technically the new stuff piggybacks off the 2012 re-release, but yeah, that is a very good game. Shame RTS is a mostly dead genre. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:26:10 AM EDT
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Might have to agree with OP. I loved Red Dead Redemption Undead Nightmare but that’s before everything got as complicated as it has now. Was playing this earlier on Emulation Station Rasberry Pi…
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:32:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: odiedodi]
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I don't know, I think games are easier now than they've ever been. Most of them are just really flashy walking simulators. That's why I don't buy many. Some of the older RPGs and simulation games are way more complicated than anything that exists now. I booted up an A-Train rom I had on drive just to see what made it a best seller in Japan, and I had no idea what was going on. It turns out that it originally shipped with a 145 page manual telling you how to play.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:33:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ARKAR: Might have to agree with OP. I loved Red Dead Redemption Undead Nightmare but that's before everything got as complicated as it has now. Was playing this earlier on Emulation Station Rasberry Pi https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/50570/IMG_8147_jpeg-3206701.JPG |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:35:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: odiedodi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: I'm told the light gun doesn't work on non-tube TVs. Have you tried any of those? https://sindenlightgun.com/ The only issue is that it actually has to be able to interface with whatever you intend to hook it up to. If you're emulating from a PC, that's not an issue, obviously, but it could be with one of the raspberry pi prebuilds (If it supports android at all, for that matter, I never looked into it). |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:36:46 AM EDT
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 If Ubisoft made Helldivers 2 |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:40:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: OregonShooter]
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I have an old N64 put goldeneye in it and continuously won against my kids until they gave up a few years back. They can kick my ass at modern games.
I play Battlefield 1 online. The WW1 gameplay is slowed down just enough where it's still fun. I'm not great at it but it's fun. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:41:47 AM EDT
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My biggest gripe is the new games that require internet connection.
It isn't a problem for me now, but there are lots of folks where I grew up that have terrible internet. I can't even imagine their kids trying to play these games. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:50:31 AM EDT
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Leasure Suit Larry agree with OP.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:57:08 AM EDT
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I agree. They peaked around 2008 and it's been downhill from there.
Not really in terms of graphics and open worlds, but story lines and the ability to just play through to the end was much better. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:59:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jambalaya: I agree. They peaked around 2008 and it's been downhill from there. Not really in terms of graphics and open worlds, but story lines and the ability to just play through to the end was much better. Agree, graphics got better but everything else went south. Greed skyrocketed and now here we are. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:02:49 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: My son is really into gaming. I've tried playing a few and I hate them. There's too much going on, shits too quick and I find them very difficult to play. But the worst part of all are the multiple accounts and sign-ins and you have to get all these downloads and updates and they make it very difficult to just do normal . It's all a scam just to grab more $$ from people. ... Video games from the 80s and 90s were awesome and fun.... I think this may be of some use for you. https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Main_Page For older games that are orphaned or abandoned ... abandonware is your friend. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:03:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tuco22: Agree, graphics got better but everything else went south. Greed skyrocketed and now here we are. We are at the point where graphics are good enough. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:04:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jayne_Cobb: I'm told the light gun doesn't work on non-tube TVs. Have you tried any of those? Or head over here and check the listings: https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/ Heads up though, some of the very VERY last tube type tvs might not work with the light guns. Ask 'em on the reddit, they'll tell you. Or if you don't want to register an account, search, someone else has to have asked. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:06:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: My son is really into gaming. I've tried playing a few and I hate them. There's too much going on, shits too quick and I find them very difficult to play. But the worst part of all are the multiple accounts and sign-ins and you have to get all these downloads and updates and they make it very difficult to just do normal shit. It's all a scam just to grab more $$ from people. Fuckin assholes. Video games from the 80s and 90s were awesome and fun. They can take all this online bullshit and go fuck themselves with it. 1. There's several models that aim to increase the tempo of games it entices the player to remain engaged for longer sessions. 2. Accounts are data, and data is industry currency. Multiple accounts can pull you away from platform stores, reducing the revenue share they pay when you make a purchase, while your engaged with your more intense and longer play session. 3. Updates are new content, which you'll pay for, and with increase profitability through your multiple accounts, and more frequently with more intense and longer play sessions. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:11:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Master_Shake]
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Microtransactions suck.
Allowing "inclusiveness" into the industry did exactly to the gaming industry what it did to Hollywood What Sony is doing to Helldivers is ridiculous Diablo 4 was a huge let down. But what can you do? Only so much retro gaming out there |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:11:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Echd: Technically the new stuff piggybacks off the 2012 re-release, but yeah, that is a very good game. Shame RTS is a mostly dead genre.  I don't even play Helldivers. But I sent this to my sons and immediately induced rage! |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:13:13 AM EDT
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100% agree OP. It’s annoying and frustrating as fuck. The kid spends more time updating games and waiting in lobbies than actually playing the games. On top of that, I’m wasting my time creating new accounts, changing privacy settings, etc. every freakin time he wants to play a new game. The industry is now designed to get kids super addicted and provide a short-lived high (no different than drugs or gambling) in order to get them to swindle more money from their parents or grandparents for “Vbucks” or other virtual tokens that they can use to buy pointless shit in the game. It’s nothing more than a racket. As parents, it’s getting more and more frustrating to the point where we’re about to take the video games away completely. He’ll be upset, but it’s probably for the best.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:34:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FlashMan-7k]
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If you want to see modern gaming roasted...
 Todd Howard Unveils The Truth About Starfield In An Honest Conference - Unscripted Click To View Spoiler  Blizzard goes to HonestCon - Unscripted Expected but I'll say it anways, language warning. "If you ain't broke, we won't fix it!" |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:39:29 AM EDT
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I agree. Call of Duty was way more fun when your team looked like Viet Cong and the enemy was dressed like MACV-SOG.
It is kind of hard to play hardcore mode when you don't know if you should be shooting the antagonist from SAW, a demon, Niki Minaj or a Taran Tactical gun bunny. I get that they need to make money, but could we possibly get a system where player skins at least make sense? Don't get me started on modern Halo. We can make the most visually stunning games ever, but we can't write a decent story anymore? WTF? Gaming is going through the same type of stagnation as Hollywood. It sucks. I primarily play classic Halo on the Master Chief Collection. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:50:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Echd: Technically the new stuff piggybacks off the 2012 re-release, but yeah, that is a very good game. Shame RTS is a mostly dead genre. RTS mostly died when the competitive meta turned into APM wars with who could break a keyboard the fastest. I still remember the multiplayer transition of going from enjoying myself with dumb strategies to hurting my hands from mashing buttons just to try and keep up in matches, and the direction of 'if you aren't following these exact steps in your first two minutes in a match you are going to lose' style of 'strategy'. Seems like the less hard core side of that industry went full in on the 4x games as it's a lot easier to force people to slow down by increasing the scale and the rest died off when they realized that RTS e-sports weren't going to be a major thing in the west. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 1:56:36 AM EDT
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1) Get Steam
2) Get an RTS like Company of Heros 3) ..... 4) Profit I realized a long time ago, I lost my twitch factor in my 30's. FPS games...Its an uphill battle these days. Although, World of Tanks is pretty decent as well. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:28:53 AM EDT
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Speaking of helldivers here's an update.
 Helldivers 2: Gamers Have Won! |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:39:29 AM EDT
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The video game industry has gotten even shittier. There's a company called Sweet Baby Incorporated, which sees the contracted companies have sufficient DEI characters in their storylines.
There is an app on Stream which list them. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:46:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kingdead]
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I love most all games. While I am very selective at what AAA titles I buy today, there are a lot of good smaller developers like New Blood. As far as things being too fast, some games have a steep learning curve, but once you master the controls it is fun. There are also a lot of slower paced games, but you gotta look. Stay away from Fortnite, COD, and most everything from Epic Games if you don't like microtransactions or garbage timed exclusive releases. You can always play the classics like Half Life or if you have emulators all the old PS1 games.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:49:17 AM EDT
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Here’s a decent rant about DRM.
 Digital Decay Of 2000's PC Game DRM |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:51:41 AM EDT
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I miss the days of Sierra-On-Line.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:58:35 AM EDT
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Here's a liminal space / walking simulator (I use that tongue in cheek) game revolving around weird pools. It's awesome to be able to experience places that don't and can't exist. It's like reading a good book if this kind of medium makes an impression on you.
 Attached FileThen some smaller studios like New Blood have fun games like UltraKill. That game has a lot of gore spray, though all the enemies are not human like. At one point you get to a level where all the walls are white and there aren't any enemies at first. Once you see all the walls are white, you know how bad it's going to get.  Attached File Attached File Attached FileDon't write off ALL new games. There are a lot of bad actors and most AAA studios are not good anymore. Until people stop pre-ordering and paying for microtransactions / bad DLC, this won't change. I think highspeed internet allowed companies to abuse releasing bad games and microtransactions. I remember when you still bought expansion packs at the store with physical media. I think that was the height of addon content save for a few good actors today. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 2:59:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:01:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CenterMass762]
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OP is correct. Video games are gay now. RDR2 was probably the last great console game. No internet connection required, kickass single-player storyline, set in a realistic world, no need to buy extra shit, etc.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:04:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: Video games from the 80s and 90s were awesome and fun. They can take all this online bullshit and go fuck themselves with it. There are plenty of slow offline games. Find something you like instead of trying to play things you won't and then complaining about it. In particular, there are small studios and individuals making great games. Look at midnight fight express, high fleet, battletech, sifu, art of rally, etc. AAA studios have become risk adverse which makes then bland (and that's before the woke poison). A lot of them have also become incredibly lazy. Some of the small studios and indy devs are crushing it though (most of these are PC only, of course, since dealing with the BS that goes with consoles is extremely difficult for a tiny studio or individual). |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 3:41:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rippr334: My biggest gripe is the new games that require internet connection. It isn't a problem for me now, but there are lots of folks where I grew up that have terrible internet. I can't even imagine their kids trying to play these games. "You vill own nothing (physical), be happy and eat ze bugs." -Klaus Schwab |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:18:37 AM EDT
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Millennials, gen z and DEI.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 5:36:54 AM EDT
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I loathe it because they've all but killed rentable game servers.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 6:16:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EvoXGunner: My son is really into gaming. I've tried playing a few and I hate them. There's too much going on, shits too quick and I find them very difficult to play. But the worst part of all are the multiple accounts and sign-ins and you have to get all these downloads and updates and they make it very difficult to just do normal shit. It's all a scam just to grab more $$ from people. Fuckin assholes. Video games from the 80s and 90s were awesome and fun. They can take all this online bullshit and go fuck themselves with it. The big difference today is that the companies are fixing the games themselves after the fact, but charging you for the privilege. Oh, and the woke bullshit that's crammed into everything. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 6:55:29 AM EDT
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DEI is ruining gaming just like it is everything else. Sweet Baby Inc and developers that hate their customers need to have their asses handed to them.
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Posted: 5/6/2024 6:59:07 AM EDT
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Do you still have to be online with most systems just to play a game?
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Posted: 5/6/2024 6:59:30 AM EDT
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I’m still playing StarCraft 2.. I’m not very good at online but I don’t care. I enjoy playing.
Can’t get into any of the new shooters tho. Half life 2 was the last one I enjoyed there. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 7:17:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kingdead: Originally Posted By Mech2007: I miss the days of Sierra-On-Line. I learned how to type playing the "Quest" games... Space Quest was my favorite. Throw in some King's Quest and Police Quest as well. OP: I understand in a way, I've been a PC gamer for most of my life... I've always preferred single player games, but have dabbled in multiplayer. As I've gotten older I've played less as I've prioritized "adult stuff" (gun training, exercise, house maintenance), but I still find it relaxing. I haven't purchased a new game at launch in over 10 years - I prefer to wait until the initial bugs are worked out then get it on a 50% sale. I think some of it is the attention span of the modern gamer - they need all that flashy stuff just to keep them engaged. I blame TikTok, Snapchat etc.. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 7:18:59 AM EDT
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Indie games are where it's at.
Lethal Company, Cuphead, Limbo, Helldivers 1 & 2, Prison Architect (and their new one The Last Starship), Rimworld, Hades, Hollow Knight, etc. |
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