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Posted: 7/14/2022 9:58:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore]
The bad guys lawyers filed a R.41 dismissal. In Ohio that means they have 1 year to start it all over again, but as of today it's over.
This entire thing was a bullshit bluff all along. We called them on it and didn't offer a penny in settlement. They knew they would never win at trial so they quit. They can refile, but their lawyers know its a lost cause and, and I can't imagine any other lawyers will want to pick this up and expect a different outcome. Thanks for all the support, it's been a wild ride, and fortunately the bad guys lost. To better understand how bad the trial would have gone for them read this - parents depositions. Imagine my attorneys cross examining them in front of a jury! Document Dump of the process Timeline June, 2 2020 link A Lucas County Common Pleas Court Judge grants a Restraining Order against Jerry Zohn as a result of a motion submitted by his wife's attorney which states " violence that occurred between them". Morning July, 2 2020 - link Allison and Jerry conspire to commit a felony when Allison asks Jerry buy a gun in his name for her and she'll give him the money, because she said she was a prohibited person due to being in a mental institution. Afternoon July, 2 2020 link Allison and Jerry follow through with the felony act and Jerry buys a .22 Ruger Wrangler Revolver which he gives to Allison. July, 7 2020 link Jerry(lives with a friend while going through a divorce) and Allison(lives with her parents) spend the night in a hotel 67 miles from their homes. Allison told her mom she "had her own hotel room". Jerry said they stayed in the same room, but in separate beds. July, 8 2020 link Allison kills herself using the revolver Jerry bought. July, 29 2020 link Detective Albright STPD speaks with the owner of ADCO Firearms and states Allison used the gun Jerry bought to kill herself. July, 30 2020 link to video Jerry Zohn is interviewed by Detective Albright STPD May, 27 2021 Jerry Zohn is indicted federally for lying on the 4473 June, 22 2021 link Jerry Zohn is arrested by ATF. August 24 2021 link Jerry Zohn files for bankruptcy October, 5 2021 Jerry Zohn pleads guilty in federal court to Counts 1 of the Indictment and is convicted under 18:922(A)(6) October, 14 2021 link Allison’s parents hire a Toledo law firm and open the estate to sue Jerry for wrongful death, but are told he has no insurance, so there is nothing they can put their hands on. March, 18 2022 Jerry Zohn is Sentenced for a term of 10 months Home Incarceration as to Count One of the Indictment; to serve 2 years supervised release and to pay $100.00 special assessment June, 22 2022 link Plaintiffs who "opposes citizens having firearms" hire a law firm from Columbus who is a spotlight donor to the Brady Campaign to sue ADCO July, 6 2022 link Allison’s parents file against ADCO firearms for wrongful death September, 9 2022 link Why you ask? In the plaintiff's words - link 1 link 2 Allisons parents through the Toledo law firm close the estate stating they are no longer pursuing a wrongful death claim. October 27, 2022 Jerry Zohn Deposition - Zohn didn't show up. December 19, 2022 Deposition link Jerry Zohn Deposition January 12, 2023 Trial scheduled for January 30, 2024 January 19, 2023 link Parents(plaintiffs) Deposition February 20, 2023 Steve Thompson Deposition - Plaintiff cancels deposition at last minute. March, 17 2023 link ADCO files motion to dismiss because the Estate was closed by the plaintiff on 09/09/2022 March, 20 2023 My insurance company of 20yrs and zero claims drops me. March, 28 2023 Plaintiffs reopen the estate. May, 4 2023 New insurance is acquired but at a 500% increase due to the open claim. June 5, 2023 Steve Thompson Deposition - Plaintiff cancels deposition at last minute. June 30, 2023 New Trial Date May 21 2024 July 21, 2023 Plaintiffs send settlement demand letter, state that their expert testimony will establish ADCO recklessly... August 9, 2023 Deposition Link Steve Thompson Deposition August 10, 2023 What a bold bluff! The settlement demand letter is rejected by defendant. October, 9 2023 Plaintiff Expert witness reports released. They're a joke. The statements made in the demand letter regarding said "experts" was a BLUFF. They have nothing. October 19, 2023 Judge denies motion to dismiss and states the closing of the estate was a mistake of the court. December 22, 2023 Summary Judgment Motion January 4, 2024 Suicide Expert witness deposition - try to read THIS without laughing at the absurdity. January 19, 2024 Firearms Expert, Expert witness deposition - try to read this and this without laughing at this hack. Present Day They have yet to produce a single piece of evidence to contradict my statement to Detective Albright that there were no indications they were attempting to make a straw purchase. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Godspeed and good luck, dude. Please let us know how we can help.
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Critical thinking is dead.
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Sorry to hear it brother. Hang tough, fight, and win.
Hope everything works out to your advantage |
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What a load of bull
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I wish you the best of luck.
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Personal accountability.
There is no Carnac in the gun store. Bullshit suit. |
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There is a reason some rookies roll more hose than others....
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"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." - Edmund Burke.
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Trash suit.
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will preserve it but downright force. When you give up that force, you are ruined. ” - Patrick Henry |
Sorry to hear that. It seems that no one wants to take responsibility for their choices and want to blame someone else.
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That's some BS. I remember reading that and there's no way that could be a straw purchase.
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SETEC ASTRONOMY
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What a bunch of bullshit.
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Sorry to hear that. Good luck!
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No one is coming. It's up to us.
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Should be thrown out. Complete nonsense.
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I guess they figure you're a bigger payday than the guy who actually made the fucking straw purchase.
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"We're all new here, kid. The old ones are either dead or in the hospital. What the hell did you expect, a two week pass to Paris? Get in line and do what you're told, or you'll be dead before sunup."
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What a bunch of crap
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Sorry some broad offed herself but fuck those fucking cocksuckers.
“Obvious red flags”???? Like what? “I’d like to illegally purchase this product to break the law with”??? Only thing imho that could bite ya is the ‘odd dynamic’ statement. But that is hardly enough to deny anything to anybody. Lots of fucking weird people out there. Fuck them, fuck them right in their stupid asses |
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Ridurall: When you think it's time to bury your guns, I say it's time to dig them up.
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Ya'll are good people.
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It Ain't Dying I'm Talking About, It's Living - Gus McCrae - Lonesome Dove
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I'm praying for you man. I airbags every bit of work you've done for me and this is complete BS. Godspeed.
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The two most powerful warriors are patience and time.
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Good luck OP. Y’all did some work for me a long time ago and it was top notch.
Didn’t you post this 1-2 weeks ago? |
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I just read the complaint. What a BS charge!
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No one is coming. It's up to us.
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So, basically the cock masters are looking for any excuse to sue an FFL out of business. They're like ambulance chasers. They found a girl who comitted suicide and are trying to somehow make the FFL who sold the gun responsible.
There should be a way to counter sue them for bullshit law suits. Otherwise they can just throw shit like this at the wall and hope it sticks. |
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Everytime I go to the gunstore there's a white girl buying guns for a boyfriend who's pointing out what he wants.
It's absolutely none of my business and I'm a 2A absolutist but I have wondered if the shop is opening itself up to issues. |
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Originally Posted By bigbore: I have turned everything over to Insurance, waiting on approval. I'll be retaining a personal attorney Monday. Unfortunately this has the potential to really get expensive. This case could have an impact on all FFLs. EVERYTHING I know about any of this is linked below and is public information. This is some interesting reading all around. Discuss among yourselves, I wont be participating/responding. Complaint Police Report keep this link cold - https://www.bradyunited.org/donor-spotlight/cooper-elliott View Quote That is some bullshit. Also just a suggestion but shouldnt this be in team? |
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I swear I saw a version of this story posted a couple days ago and I don't think ADCO was mentioned.
Any judge that doesn't throw this out immediately is a piece of shit. |
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So, if I understand this correctly
Certifiable nutjob has boyfriend buy her a gun (Straw purchase). She then takes possession of weapon, even though she is a prohibited person (illegal) - both parties are under a mutual understanding she is a prohibited person (also illegal). The problem is that the gun was sold to the boyfriend by ADCO. Yeah. Godspeed. I'm sure you're dealing with the Brady Bunch. |
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I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy, a Yankee Doodle do-or-die....
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Good luck.
Hope your attorney earns his money and embarrasses them. |
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The nice part about being a pessimist is that you are constantly being either proven right or pleasantly surprised.
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Everyone is always looking for someone (else) to blame....
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Stuff I learned from A-Team: 1)Always pity da fool 2)Carry wire cutters (you may need to defuse a bomb or start a car) 3)Never trust a crazy fool 4)Carry grenade launcher/machine guns in the van 5)Know how to weld 6)Love It When A Plan Comes Together
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If you've got a blacklist, I want to be on it.
FL, USA
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The process is the punishment.
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The only thing that you can guess about a broken down old man... is that he is a survivor.
The man is heartless and jaded. By this point he's probably comfortable with it. - SmilingBandit |
If I were in your shoes I would want to know what the medications were and what her mental health history was like.
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He'll see everything. He'll see the big board!
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Legal fund that we can donate to?
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So if she slit her wrists they'd sue the razor blade company?
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How about adults who shouldn't have a gun shouldn't be walking around loose?
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This is bullshit.
Get a GoFundMe. This effects us all. If everyone here coughs up $25, you'll probably be covered Stryker (sp?) still approves these things? |
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Sorry to hear this. Good luck to you.
Who straw buys a ruger wrangler to kill themselves with? I would never suspect a 22 revolver as being a straw purchase. |
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Those lawyers look like they enjoy the company of an indiscriminate and unusually well endowed donkey.
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Sheesh, that chain of "logic" in the suit is clearly absurd, anyone who takes it seriously would have to just be out to make some anti-gun point.
They repeatedly claim, but never make a solid argument, that the seller should have somehow known Allison Roebke was the intended recipient and that she was ineligible to purchase, all based on an "odd dynamic." What a ridiculous stretch! |
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Here’s an example from a butterfly, an example that it can be happy on a hard rock. An example that it can lie on this unsweetened stone, friendlessly and all alone. Now let my bed. I do not care.
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Hopefully the person suing you has the same mental illness as their relative and takes a long term stationary drive in their garage with the door closed.
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Not your fault and a BS lawsuit. FWIW, you have so many folks on arfcom that would probably be glad to sign an affidavit in your favor.
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"Some people have issues. Sounds like he signed up for an entire subscription." ~Brohawk
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Very sorry Steve.
In my Toledo days (before I moved to metro Columbus area) I was a frequent customer of yours. Let us know how we can help. |
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"Why don't you boys go suck some fish heads?" - Dirty Harry Callahan.
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Sounds like the guy admitted to making a straw purchase, not sure why ADCO is at fault for that.
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We don't come alone; we are fire, we are stone.
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A 22 wrangler is a great gun for a 70yo
Stupid |
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"If you cant do something smart, do something right"
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Best of luck defending yourself against this frivolous suit.
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Originally Posted By Er_Mah_Gerd: Sorry some broad offed herself but fuck those fucking cocksuckers. “Obvious red flags”???? Like what? “I’d like to illegally purchase this product to break the law with”??? Only thing imho that could bite ya is the ‘odd dynamic’ statement. But that is hardly enough to deny anything to anybody. Lots of fucking weird people out there. Fuck them, fuck them right in their stupid asses View Quote I’m no lawyer but how can the unspoken intent of Someone else be construed to be KNOWN by someone else? Additionally you could point out that a lot can happen in 6 days(between when sold(via straw purchase), and victim shot her self) . |
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Maniac has responded with a scornful remark
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I responded to a lot more suicides by hanging than shooting.
Nobody thinks of suing the hardware store. |
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