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Posted: 7/14/2022 9:58:03 PM EDT
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The bad guys lawyers filed a R.41 dismissal. In Ohio that means they have 1 year to start it all over again, but as of today it's over.
This entire thing was a bullshit bluff all along. We called them on it and didn't offer a penny in settlement. They knew they would never win at trial so they quit. They can refile, but their lawyers know its a lost cause and, and I can't imagine any other lawyers will want to pick this up and expect a different outcome. Thanks for all the support, it's been a wild ride, and fortunately the bad guys lost. To better understand how bad the trial would have gone for them read this - parents depositions. Imagine my attorneys cross examining them in front of a jury! Document Dump of the process Timeline June, 2 2020 link A Lucas County Common Pleas Court Judge grants a Restraining Order against Jerry Zohn as a result of a motion submitted by his wife's attorney which states " violence that occurred between them". Morning July, 2 2020 - link Allison and Jerry conspire to commit a felony when Allison asks Jerry buy a gun in his name for her and she'll give him the money, because she said she was a prohibited person due to being in a mental institution. Afternoon July, 2 2020 link Allison and Jerry follow through with the felony act and Jerry buys a .22 Ruger Wrangler Revolver which he gives to Allison. July, 7 2020 link Jerry(lives with a friend while going through a divorce) and Allison(lives with her parents) spend the night in a hotel 67 miles from their homes. Allison told her mom she "had her own hotel room". Jerry said they stayed in the same room, but in separate beds. July, 8 2020 link Allison kills herself using the revolver Jerry bought. July, 29 2020 link Detective Albright STPD speaks with the owner of ADCO Firearms and states Allison used the gun Jerry bought to kill herself. July, 30 2020 link to video Jerry Zohn is interviewed by Detective Albright STPD May, 27 2021 Jerry Zohn is indicted federally for lying on the 4473 June, 22 2021 link Jerry Zohn is arrested by ATF. August 24 2021 link Jerry Zohn files for bankruptcy October, 5 2021 Jerry Zohn pleads guilty in federal court to Counts 1 of the Indictment and is convicted under 18:922(A)(6) October, 14 2021 link Allison’s parents hire a Toledo law firm and open the estate to sue Jerry for wrongful death, but are told he has no insurance, so there is nothing they can put their hands on. March, 18 2022 Jerry Zohn is Sentenced for a term of 10 months Home Incarceration as to Count One of the Indictment; to serve 2 years supervised release and to pay $100.00 special assessment June, 22 2022 link Plaintiffs who "opposes citizens having firearms" hire a law firm from Columbus who is a spotlight donor to the Brady Campaign to sue ADCO July, 6 2022 link Allison’s parents file against ADCO firearms for wrongful death September, 9 2022 link Why you ask? In the plaintiff's words - link 1 link 2 Allisons parents through the Toledo law firm close the estate stating they are no longer pursuing a wrongful death claim. October 27, 2022 Jerry Zohn Deposition - Zohn didn't show up. December 19, 2022 Deposition link Jerry Zohn Deposition January 12, 2023 Trial scheduled for January 30, 2024 January 19, 2023 link Parents(plaintiffs) Deposition February 20, 2023 Steve Thompson Deposition - Plaintiff cancels deposition at last minute. March, 17 2023 link ADCO files motion to dismiss because the Estate was closed by the plaintiff on 09/09/2022 March, 20 2023 My insurance company of 20yrs and zero claims drops me. March, 28 2023 Plaintiffs reopen the estate. May, 4 2023 New insurance is acquired but at a 500% increase due to the open claim. June 5, 2023 Steve Thompson Deposition - Plaintiff cancels deposition at last minute. June 30, 2023 New Trial Date May 21 2024 July 21, 2023 Plaintiffs send settlement demand letter, state that their expert testimony will establish ADCO recklessly... August 9, 2023 Deposition Link Steve Thompson Deposition August 10, 2023 What a bold bluff! The settlement demand letter is rejected by defendant. October, 9 2023 Plaintiff Expert witness reports released. They're a joke. The statements made in the demand letter regarding said "experts" was a BLUFF. They have nothing. October 19, 2023 Judge denies motion to dismiss and states the closing of the estate was a mistake of the court. December 22, 2023 Summary Judgment Motion January 4, 2024 Suicide Expert witness deposition - try to read THIS without laughing at the absurdity. January 19, 2024 Firearms Expert, Expert witness deposition - try to read this and this without laughing at this hack. Present Day They have yet to produce a single piece of evidence to contradict my statement to Detective Albright that there were no indications they were attempting to make a straw purchase. |
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I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
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Talking to the popo is the worst idea, always.
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R.I.P. Brian Michael Wallace, AKA FCSD2162
Help Brian's young daughter: https://givesendgo.com/Brianwallace |
What a crock of shit. This is all getting out of control.
Drunk driver kills a pedestrian. So you can sue the car manufacturer and the alcohol company. Got it. Pants on head retarded. |
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Originally posted by: KA3B
Honestly, what in the fuck are you trying to say? Are you typing with a Playskool keyboard or what? |
If she had used pills would they have sued Pfizer?
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I need ammunition, not a ride. Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky
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So... This guy filled out a 4473? Answered the question on the 4473 that asks if he is buyi g the gun for himself?
Passed the NICS check? And somehow it's YOUR fault he gave the gun to her?? |
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WITH....a HERRING!
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Ug, they named you individually.
stay strong friend. |
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There is a reason some rookies roll more hose than others....
Sir Lug1, charter member Knights of Wonder |
Locked pending review by Striker for fundraising request.
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Unlocked. OP has information.
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Its interesting how they equate "employees should ask a couple of questions" with "ADCO failed to pepper them with questions."
It should be pretty easy to turn things against the plaintiff when their complaint is so full of extraneous and subjective BS. That and there's plenty of room with the way the complaint is written to suggest that the plaintiff is disparaging of atypical couples or relationships. Legally it doesn't matter, but pointing out how aghast the plaintiff is about the age disparity and "odd dynamic" between the two and how that shows that the plaintiff is clearly biased, bigoted, and closed minded about modern interpersonal relationships whereas ADCO is not might appeal to people on the jury. Heck, I bet you could argue that their complaint is fundamentally flawed as an "adoring father" should have known his daughter bought a gun, and that it is far more his responsibility to prevent her death than ADCO's. I also wonder if you could successfully argue that if the complaint holds that ADCO is filling the role of law enforcement as they hold a Federal license, then ADCO should be counted as federal law enforcement and as such should enjoy the protections of qualified immunity. After all, many many court cases have ruled that the government has no responsibility to protect individual life, even when action/inaction on its part demonstrably causes loss of life (Uvalde anyone?) If the government's system does not adequately prevent straw purchases, then any negligence is on the part of congress, not those tasked with enforcing flawed policies. But i'm not a lawyer and didn't sleep at a holiday inn express. In any event; to hell with ambulance chasers. |
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The notion that you're liable to a woman who committed a felony and evidently recruited a second person to commit another felony to aid her in the commission of a felony is disgusting.
This allows the felon (or at the estate of the deceased) to profit from her crime. I'm sorry you're going through this OP. It's bullshit. |
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Everybody knows the odd dynamic between a 70 year old and a girlfriend half his age.
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Please hire a shark who hates leftists and countersue!
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We're living in an episode of Who's Line is it Anyway.
Where everything's made up and the points don't matter. |
Contact GOA? If they help you out I will contribute as a life member.
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There is a reason some rookies roll more hose than others....
Sir Lug1, charter member Knights of Wonder |
Ambulance chasing dirtbag lawyers.
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That’s some major bullshit but will be expensive bullshit.
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Originally Posted By JackRebney: I swear I saw a version of this story posted a couple days ago and I don't think ADCO was mentioned. Any judge that doesn't throw this out immediately is a piece of shit. View Quote There are a ton of absolute piece of shit judges. Hopefully OP gets one with even an ounce of fairness and knowledge of the law. |
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Rest in Peace Brother. |
I'll chip in.
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I'll recommend givesendgo over a gofundme. They'll probably shut it down over their liberal sensibilities.
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@BigBore
If you make some product, say along the line of the Dillo's LaRue makes to Nolo, I will purchase. I bet everybody will. Not a freebie fundraiser, everybody wins, and has a token to show for it. Just sayin.... Or you get a givesendgo I will donate to that. Just brain storming. |
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There is a reason some rookies roll more hose than others....
Sir Lug1, charter member Knights of Wonder |
Straw purchases are typically the opposite gender wise.
How is a dealer supposed to be psychic? If nothing seems hinky, the sale is going to happen. Sounds like scum sucking ambulance chaser type lawyers. ETA: corrected spelling, derp |
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Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
Shooting and riding snowmobiles isn’t as fun when your property is sporting a 70’s porno bush. |
Ok
so 70 yo retard needs to be sued! I have had an issue with Adco, but this lawsuit is complete bullshit! |
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Lets Go Brandon
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This should get tossed because it's only a straw purchase if the gun store knows the buyer is purchasing the firearm for a prohibitive person.
It doesn't matter if the prohibitive person is in the store with the buyer or sitting at home. ADCO didn't know it was being purchased for someone else . Good lawyer should get this tossed out, |
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Not seeing proximate causation. This should be dismissed at summary judgment.
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Originally Posted By Lug1: @BigBore If you make some product, say along the line of the Dillo's LaRue makes to Nolo, I will purchase. I bet everybody will. Not a freebie fundraiser, everybody wins, and has a token to show for it. Just sayin.... Or you get a givesendgo I will donate to that. Just brain storming. View Quote Hacked off bits of barrels cut to be bottle openers on keychains. I'm in. |
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I'm a Yankee Doodle Dandy, a Yankee Doodle do-or-die....
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Originally Posted By ar154all: This is bullshit. Get a GoFundMe. This effects us all. If everyone here coughs up $25, you'll probably be covered Stryker (sp?) still approves these things? View Quote Gofuckme would just shut it down. Lets not keep making the same mistakes, it makes us look retarded. Maybe try givesendgo. |
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So a quick read of the police report says that some idiot straw purchased a gun for a crazy chick and she killed herself with it.
If anyone is liable then it would be him. I'm sure these 2 weren't the first people you've had come into your shop that seemed "odd". Probably going to cost you a bunch in legal fees but you're not liable if you followed all the rules. Hopefully you can counter sue and recover your losses. You've been a long time contributor here since before I joined this site and hopefully this community/site supports you as well. ETA: IM sent I'm in for $100. I've spent that for the larue/Nolo fund before, maybe they can do something as well. |
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LIVE FREE OR DIE!
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Should be immediately dismissed with prejudice. The Brady Bunch is a bunch of frauds.
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Karma.
I hope the people filing get some. |
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Sorry to hear you are going through this.
I was just in your store last week, I am lucky enough to live close enough to drive. Dude lied on the form for a women half his age who admitted to having mental problems…..yep…..your fault. BS |
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Let's figure out a way to help. What a bunch of BS
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It's true no matter who you are, the worst thing you can do for someone is give them something for nothing. - 3rdpig
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Good luck man. It's a bullshit case to start. You had no way of knowing that it was not for the dude and its practically impossible to prove.
I've been sitting on some work that I've been wanting to get done, I'm going to send it to you on Monday. Hopefully even my little bit will help.... |
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I'm in to help. That's a crock of warm bullshit.
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One out of two gets a rifle. The one without follows him! When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and shoots!
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Best wishes. Didn't you lock the other thread on this?
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