Breaking:Man Arrested For Having Gun Outside Of Airforce 1

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Posted: 4/25/2010 4:56:40 PM EDT

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36771668

ASHEVILLE, N.C. - Police say an Ohio man has been charged after authorities spotted him with a gun in a North Carolina airport parking lot as Air Force One was departing.

Asheville Regional Airport police Capt. Kevan Smith says at about 2 p.m. Sunday, officers saw 23-year-old Joseph McVey get out of a car in the public lot and he had a handgun.

Security was heightened because President Barack Obama was departing after vacationing in the state. The suspect was nowhere near the president's plane.

Smith says McVey's car had strobe lights like a police car might, but the suspect is not in law enforcement.

McVey is charged with going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor.

Smith says the investigation into what McVey was doing with a gun and why his car was equipped with strobe lights is continuing.

Anyone know what the actual law is on gun free zone near POUS?

Posted: 4/25/2010 4:58:06 PM EDT

[#1]

McVey???

Posted: 4/25/2010 4:59:41 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/25/2010 5:00:17 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/25/2010 5:01:09 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/25/2010 5:01:51 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/25/2010 5:02:15 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/25/2010 5:02:39 PM EDT

[#7]

oh teh noes. he gots a gun!!

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:02:43 PM EDT

[#8]

"law enforcement lights"

anymore I just file that with

"bomb making supplies"=a bottle of Drano and some foil

"hate literature "= a WWII history book

"Police radio/scanner"= Old ass bearcat that is useless now

fuck the press they couldn't do a story without breathless exaggeration if their life depended on it

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:04:00 PM EDT

[#9]

"Going armed in terror of the public?"

sounds like a "gotcha" NC law.

Also... is NC an open carry State? I'll bet it is. Or else they would have charged him with unlawful carry of a weapon or whatever NC's version of that is.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:04:25 PM EDT

[#10]

going armed in terror of the public

The hell is this?

Oh yeah and, it wasn't me. Honest.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:04:36 PM EDT

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McVey is charged with going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor.

WTF - never heard of that one. Did they just make that one up?

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:04:38 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/25/2010 5:05:36 PM EDT

[#13]

Yet more reasons why I'm glad to be out of that libtard state...........................

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:06:36 PM EDT

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Quoted:
McVey is charged with going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor.

WTF - never heard of that one. Did they just make that one up?

Sure sounds like it.

HH

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:06:39 PM EDT

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Quoted:
"law enforcement lights"

anymore I just file that with
"bomb making supplies"=a bottle of Drano and some foil
"hate literature "= a WWII history book
"Police radio/scanner"= Old ass bearcat that is useless now

fuck the press they couldn't do a story without breathless exaggeration if their life depended on it

Yet no one has any skepticism when EVERY dog attack is by a "pit bull type dog"

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:07:35 PM EDT

[#16]

some people have strobes as part of their car alarms

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:09:45 PM EDT

[#17]

Huh.

McVey ... armed in terror of the public.

Huh.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:10:54 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

"Going armed in terror of the public?"

sounds like a "gotcha" NC law.

Also... is NC an open carry State? I'll bet it is. Or else they would have charged him with unlawful carry of a weapon or whatever NC's version of that is.

Yeah, NC is an open carry state.

"Going armed in terror of the public" is the BS gotcha law in NC that people get charged with when they don't really have anything to charge them with. I guess there could be appropriate uses of the charge, but it does get used as a gotcha catch-all.

That said, if the guy intended harm to the POTUS, I hope he gets put away.

Conversely, if he was an unlucky innocent, I hope it gets cleared up soon.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:11:37 PM EDT

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Quoted:
"Going armed in terror of the public?"

sounds like a "gotcha" NC law.

Also... is NC an open carry State? I'll bet it is. Or else they would have charged him with unlawful carry of a weapon or whatever NC's version of that is.

Sounds like a Anti-Klan law from the 1870's

Nope it been around much longer.

From Opencarry.org

There are four elements of Going Armed to the Terror of the Public:

1) arming one's self with an unusual and dangerous weapon

2) For the purpose of terrifying others

3) goes about on public highways

4) in a manner to cause terror to others.

The only real case-law regarding "going armed to the terror of the public" is State v. Robert S. Huntley (1843).

In it, the NC Supreme Court stated that, yes, a firearm is an "unusual and dangerous weapon", but the simple act of carrying a rifle or handgun is not sufficient to meet the threshold of going armed to the terror of the public.

The defendant in Huntley was armed with a double barrel shotgun looking for a James Ratcliff and was saying loudly enough for others to hear that he was going to kill him.

It is clear that merely openly carrying is not enough (regardless of whether the sheeple get scared), BUT, if you were to get loud, abusive, agitated, etc., then it is reasonable to believe you could be charged with GATTP

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:15:14 PM EDT

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Quoted:

some people have strobes as part of their car alarms

or if they do any type or construction work

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:19:44 PM EDT

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Quoted:

Quoted:
some people have strobes as part of their car alarms

or if they do any type or construction work

Or if they are a rural mail carrier. Hmmmm.....

Oh forgot...

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:21:12 PM EDT

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Quoted:
some people have strobes as part of their car alarms

Around here all of the volunteer firefighters have them...

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:23:18 PM EDT

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Quoted:

going armed in terror of the public

The hell is this?

Oh yeah and, it wasn't me. Honest.

I had to wrap my head around that one, sounded like" I'm going out armed because I'm terrified of the public."

Any way, he should've been more careful while "brandishing" his arm, if it was just something as simple as moving it around on his person for comfort or whatever.
Hopefully he wasn't crazy, trying to be an assassin.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:25:12 PM EDT

[#24]

[Merrell]And so it begins . . . [/Merrell]

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:27:00 PM EDT

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how much you want to be it is a pellet gun.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:27:48 PM EDT

[#26]

Must have been one of them 50 caliber heat seeking anti aircraft hand guns.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:28:14 PM EDT

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Quoted:
"Going armed in terror of the public?"

sounds like a "gotcha" NC law.

Also... is NC an open carry State? I'll bet it is. Or else they would have charged him with unlawful carry of a weapon or whatever NC's version of that is.

GATTTOTP is indeed a "gotcha" law here, but there are 4 elements you must meet to charge someone with this crime. Someone will be along surely to quote chapter and verse. In NC open carry is "common" law as opposed to "statute" law, meaning it's legal because it's not illegal.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:29:20 PM EDT

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McVey is charged with going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:30:04 PM EDT

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Let's see. Spotted in an airport parking lot, with a handgun, as Air Force One was departing? Just how close was he to be a threat with a handgun?

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:31:09 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/25/2010 5:34:20 PM EDT

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Quoted:
Let's see. Spotted in an airport parking lot, with a handgun, as Air Force One was departing? Just how close was he to be a threat with a handgun?

according to the article, "nowhere near" it.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:34:39 PM EDT

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is that like excessive blocking?

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:37:07 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/25/2010 5:38:43 PM EDT

[#34]

"Yeah I whipped the old *Going Armed in Terror of the Public* on him."

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:38:45 PM EDT

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Quoted:
is that like excessive blocking?

Nah, it's more like "excessive vehicular movement while parking", a class B misdemeanor.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:39:21 PM EDT

[#36]

Oops, I think I just committed Disorderly Conduct, well, at least close enough to charge and book me while it's "sorted out" and the Man ransacks my house to haul my "arsenal" in front of the media to ruin my life and publicly flog me......

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:40:45 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/25/2010 5:41:46 PM EDT

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Quoted:

McVey???

Same thing I thought.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:42:31 PM EDT

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Without pictures, How do we know it wasnt just a light bar like on a jeep or something. Its NC...Plenty of people have off road lighting.
I think there are too many laws that are set up to be the "lets set an example out of this poor schmuck that had no ill intentions" sort of deal
So a guy carrying a gun legally can be locked up on some BS just because obama is nowhere near? So that means anyone on the ground under the flight path of AF1 is a potential terrorist?
out of hand people.

Posted: 4/25/2010 5:56:56 PM EDT

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Quoted: In NC open carry is "common" law as opposed to "statute" law, meaning it's legal because it's not illegal.

That's how laws work in America. Laws don't tell you something is legal, they only prohibit stuff.

Posted: 4/25/2010 6:02:34 PM EDT

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when the deck is stacked, either dont play or have plan to have the winner robbed and the spoils split with you when the game is over.

Posted: 4/25/2010 6:11:36 PM EDT

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According to the article on Yahoo, this guys bond was set at $100,000.

A little excessive for a simple misdemeanor, dontcha think?

Posted: 4/25/2010 6:12:35 PM EDT

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Was "the public" terrified? Did droves of them run for cover like a herd of wildebeest?

Fucking morons.

Posted: 4/25/2010 6:18:21 PM EDT

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Quoted:
Let's see. Spotted in an airport parking lot, with a handgun, as Air Force One was departing? Just how close was he to be a threat with a handgun?

He was looking for the Starbucks...

Posted: 4/25/2010 6:18:45 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/25/2010 6:22:58 PM EDT

[#46]

Guilty of keeping and bearing arms in the first degree.

Posted: 4/25/2010 6:25:43 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:
"law enforcement lights"

anymore I just file that with
"bomb making supplies"=a bottle of Drano and some foil
"hate literature "= a WWII history book
"Police radio/scanner"= Old ass bearcat that is useless now

fuck the press they couldn't do a story without breathless exaggeration if their life depended on it

+1

I'm surprised that they even included the fact that the suspect was never a danger to AF1. I'm sure after an indepth media blitz, he'll turn out to be a member of one of those white Nazi supremecist Tea party Hitler militias, and he even owns a (gasp!) automatic assault machine gun.

Posted: 4/25/2010 6:25:59 PM EDT

[#48]

This story is full of WTF?

Posted: 4/25/2010 6:28:36 PM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:

McVey is charged with going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor.

WTF - never heard of that one. Did they just make that one up?

Kinda scary sounding for a misdemeanor

Posted: 4/25/2010 6:30:42 PM EDT

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Quoted:
This story is full of WTF?

I find it hilarious that the board LEOs (God Bless them) never, ever, get into these threads and go "wtf?" even when it's obviously a blatant, bullshit, lets lock him up and then figure it out deal such as this. Hell, I ALMOST would expect a few of the more liberty loving to at least say something like "well, with the info at hand it would appear that this is really bullshit, especially filing such a useless, catchall charge". Says alot IMO.

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