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Posted: 9/3/2003 10:36:28 PM EDT
I was going to write some long-winded & inspirational introduction about how the fight to prevent the re-authorization of the "Assault Weapons" ban will be a major milestone on the path to ending modern American gun control. I contemplated waxing poetic about the nobility of fighting to reclaim & protect our birthright as free Americans, and how "Assault Weapons" are our liberty teeth, & as such, their continued availability to the citizenry is an essential guarantee that future generations will be able to resist the yoke of tyranny.
Then I realized that if you are reading this thread, you know all of this already, and that you are just looking to focus your energies on a structured plan of action which will allow you to expend your time & effort as efficiently as possible. You know the "why"… here is the "who", "where", & "what" [to say]. Thus, The Essential End the AW Ban Contact List & Sample Letter Thread. Carpe Diem!!! President George W. Bush The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW Washington, DC 20500 Phone: (202) 456-1111 Fax: (202) 456-2461 I'm not so naive as to think that Pres. Bush is going to be pressured into publicly reversing himself concerning the AW ban. The point of this exercise is to levy pressure on all levels of the Republican Party, & let them know that we are paying attention, and that we are as serious as a heart attack! The message must get through loud & clear that any support for the AW ban will have negative repercussions for the GOP! Mr. Karl Rove The Office of Karl Rove 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. NW Washington, DC 20500 Karl Rove is Pres. Bush’s top political advisor. Every news account I have read about Rove states that he has the confidence & trust of GWB to a degree that no other presidential advisor has possessed in modern American history. In other words, when Rove voices an opinion, GWB really listens. If we get Rove's attention, we get the President's as well!!! Ed Gillespie Republican National Committee Chairman 310 First St SE Washington, DC 20003 Additional contact info & ideas for influencing the RNC can be found by clicking the relevant link in this thread. US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES: Locate & Contact YOUR Representative Here Congressman Dennis Hastert Speaker of the House of Representatives 235 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-2976 Fax: (202) 225-0697 Congressman Tom DeLay House Majority Leader 242 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-5951 Fax: (202) 225-5241 Hastert & DeLay are the men most responsible for either advancing or sidetracking bills in the House. We need to let them know that their schedule should not included any attempts to renew or reauthorize the AW ban. Congressman F. James Sensenbrenner Jr. Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee 2449 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515-4905 Phone: (202) 225-5101 Fax: (202) 225-3190 The House Judiciary Committee this is responsible for the submission of all gun control legislation that is introduced in the House. Congressman Howard Coble Chairman of the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security 2468 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515-3306 Phone: (202) 225-3065 Fax: (202) 225-8611 Congressman Tom Feeney 323 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-2706 Fax: (202) 226-6299 Congressman Mark Green 1314 Longworth House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-5665 Fax: (202) 225-5729 Congressman Steve Chabot 129 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-2216 Fax: (202) 225-3012 Congressman Randy Forbes 307 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-6365 Fax: (202) 226-1170 Congressman Bob Goodlatte 2240 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-5431 Fax: (202) 225-9681 Congressman Mike Pence 1605 Longworth House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-3021 Fax: (202) 225-3382 Congressman Ric Keller 419 Cannon House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-2176 Fax: (202) 225-0999 ***This is the Judiciary Subcommittee that is first to vote on or bury all gun-control legislation. If we all do our job, none of the replacement AW bills will ever make it out of this Subcommittee to see the light of day, let alone to a full vote on the House floor! Hence, Chairman Coble & the seven Congressmen above (all pro gun Republican committee members) need to receive our special attention! |
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United States Senate
Locate & Contact YOUR Senators Here Senator Bill Frist Senate Majority Leader 461 Dirksen Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-3344 Fax: (202) 228-1264 Senator Mitch McConnell Senate Majority Whip 361-A Russell Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-2541 Fax: (202) 224-2499 Frist & McConnell set the Senate’s agenda & we need to let them know that if they want to remain in control of the Senate, they will stand in opposition to any attempts to renew the AW ban. Senator Orrin Hatch Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee 104 Hart Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-5251 Fax: (202) 224-6331 The Senate Judiciary Committee this is responsible for the submission of all gun control legislation that is introduced in the Senate. Senator Lindsey O. Graham Chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Crime, Corrections, and Victims’ Rights 290 Russell Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-5972 Fax: (202) 224-3808 This is the Senate Subcommittee that is first to vote on or bury all gun control legislation in the Senate. We need to urge them to opt for the latter option. Congressperson Nancy Pelosi House Minority Leader 2371 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 Phone: (202) 225-4965 Fax: (202) 225-8259 Senator Tom Daschle Senate Minority Leader 509 Hart Senate Office Building Washington, DC 20510 Phone: (202) 224-2321 Fax: (202) 224-6603 The point of writing to Pelosi & Daschle isn't because they might actually change their views on the AW ban. The object is to get the message across to the Democrat leadership that gun control is a losing issue and that they might want to find another issue to go to the wall on. If enough people tell them that reauthorizing the AW ban is political suicide, they just might reign in their anti gun zealots (Schumer, Fienstein, etc…) for the "good of the party"! The NRA also needs to hear from us in droves, and the message should be clear & unwavering… Do everything possible to end the AW ban, or else! Contact info & sample letters can be found here… You Can Help Make the NRA Stick to Their Guns Concerning the AW Ban! Sample letters and other ideas for influencing the RNC leadership (as well as the president’s top political advisor) can be found here… Turn Your RNC Donation Letter into a Call to Allow the AW Ban to Expire A tool for combating media bias & misinformation concerning "Assault Weapons" can be found here… NRA’s Project Strike Force – Help Fight the AW Ban! Lastly, you can wage a battle to win the hearts & minds (and political clout) of hunters & target shooters who may be ignorant of the true intent and purpose of the RKBA by taking the advice found here… The "Assault Rifle" That You Save May Be Your Own! |
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Sample Letters to Draw From...
Thanks to ColonelKlink @ AR15.com…
Thanks to TheRifleman @ AK-47.net…
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Thanks to Gobot @ AK-47.net…
Thanks to Skibane @ AK-47.net…
The following three letters are mine…
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Thanks to Prometheus @ AssaultWeb.net
Thanks to Warmonger @ AK-47.net
Well there you have it… a one-stop resource for becoming politically active & involved in the fight to end the blatantly unconstitutional "Assault Weapons" ban. While voluminous, this thread is by no means complete. Feel free to add your own unique sample letters for others to draw ideas & inspiration from. We are presented with a rare occurrence here folks… A SECOND CHANCE!!! These don’t manifest themselves very often in life, especially concerning something as important as the preservation & restoration of our unalienable rights. We would be doing a tremendous disservice to future generations of Americans if we didn’t pull out all the stops in an attempt to kill this "law" while we have the opportunity! The choice is clear... Sacrifice time, money, and effort NOW, or we just might be sacrificing blood & tears in the future! "Destiny is not a matter of chance; it is a matter of choice. It is not a thing to be waited for; it is a thing to be achieved." - William Jennings Bryan (1860 - 1925) |
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i will be modifying those letters to send to my elected officials
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I have tried a thread like this a bunch of times. It will be tacked for about 2 days and then be replaced by some item AR15 is selling.
Get with the program people. Write and call EVERYONE on this list and for god's sake mods, LEAVE THIS THREAD TACKED. |
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Thanks for the kind words guys!
I just try to hold up my end in this struggle of ours & I hope that my actions inspire others to do the same. Without YOUR effort & participation, these types of threads are worthless! |
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w00t!
Thank you NYPatriot, I have been meaning to write some letters and just havent gotten around to looking up names and addresses along with taking the time to put together a well written letter. That's over with now, consider a few more letters sent. |
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Thanks NYPatriot!! I especially thank you and all the others who posted sample letters. I have a hard time writting polite and persuasive letters. Thanks for the help!
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DON'T FORGET TO TELL CONGRESS CRITTERS NOT TO RENEW ANY PART OF THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN. Merely opposing a complete bill is not enough. They should not support ANY PART of it. Period. (for example controls on magazines over 10 rounds but no controls on s-a rifles).
AND TELL THEM YOU VOTE CRC |
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EXCELLENT POINT CRC!!!!! The politicians in D.C. are excellent at "sidewinding". They often slip the wool over our eyes with smoke and mirrors and by playing with "the wording" of bills and amendments.
Everyone should take note of CRC's point and include the sentence, "DO NOT RENEW ANY PART OF THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN!!!" in their correspondence. And write several letters! Space them out over time but write them as often as you can. The more noise that we make the more likely that we'll be heard. HUGE THANK YOU to NYPatriot, for making it easy for us all by doing the leg work!!! GOOD LUCK to us all! |
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id like to add this as a pallete to combat the BS of the AW ban and those who support it.
------------------------------ How many lies can you find here: What is the difference between semi-automatic hunting rifles and semi-automatic assault weapons? Sporting rifles and assault weapons are two distinct classes of firearms. While semi-automatic hunting rifles are designed to be fired from the shoulder and depend upon the accuracy of a precisely aimed projectile, semi-automatic assault weapons are designed to maximize lethal effects through a rapid rate of fire. [Wrong they are designed to do whatever the shooter wants to do with it. There is no difference between sporting arms and so called "assault weapons" it doesn’t matter how much stuff you have on a gun i.e. lights, lasers, scopes, handguards and grips, flash suppressors ect. Its still the same bullet coming out of the same barrel at the same velocity hitting the same target doing the same amount of damage, cut the bullshit already] Assault weapons are designed to be spray-fired from the hip, [Wrong again, check the military docs for firing weapons from the hip, you’ll find that even their machineguns are designed to and ARE fired from the shoulder with presentable accuracy. Firing from the hip with ANY firearm is irresponsible and a waste of ammo seeing as how you can’t hit the broad side of a barn] And because of their design, a shooter can maintain control of the weapon even while firing many rounds in rapid succession. [Not as easy as what you might think. my suggestion is that you try doing this sometime and then write about your own person experience with a gun rather than what you’ve heard on the grapevine] Opponents of the ban argue that such weapons only "look scary." However, because they were designed for military purposes,[wrong again, many so called "assualt weapons" were designed by civilian mfr's and were marketed to the public after being turned down by the military. the m16/ar15 for example, or the mini14] Assault weapons are equipped with combat hardware, such as silencers, folding stocks and bayonets, which are not found on sporting guns. Assault weapons are also designed for rapid-[here we go again. designed for rapid fire? it can be fired whatever way you want to fire it. many people put scopes on their "assualt weapons" and hunt/target shoot and compete with them in contests. the last I heard ammo isn’t cheap and firing rapidly is not something the average Joe is prone to do] -fire and many come equipped with large ammunition magazines allowing 50 more bullets to be fired without reloading. [wrong again, the maximum capacity of many magazines is 40 rounds. although many shooters are rejecting them because they are heavy, prone to jam and stick out to far for use with a bipod. at large the majority of "assualt weapon" shooters use 20-30rnd magazines] So there is a good reason why these features on high-powered weapons should frighten the public. [wtf is up with this "high powered"BS anyway? You ever shoot a .308 or a .338? That’s high powered. The majority of "assault weapons" are not nearly as "high powered" as you might think. Phrases like "high powered" and "assault weapons" are just buzz words created by some idiot that’s never fired a gun in his life that read some info of the internet and now claims to be an expert on the subject. Gee kind of sounds like you Brady bunch boys. Just because something "looks" dangerous doesn't make it more so. Most people aren’t afraid of your average hunting rifle. BUT truth be told most of your average hunting rifles could do far more damage then any ole "assault weapon" Looks don’t kill, bullets do.] [Why should the public be frightened? that’s ludicrous and ridiculous. You want to know what firearm is used in crime more than any other in the country? The .38 snub nose revolver. It has none of the features listed above but is more easily concealable and much MUCH cheaper and more available. A thing that criminals tend to go for.] Assault weapons are commonly equipped with some or all of the following combat [self defense there slick] features: A large-capacity ammunition magazine, enabling the shooter to continuously fire dozens of rounds without reloading. [Wrong, most so called "assault weapons" are being sold with 10 round BATF approved magazines. although buyers can buy grand fathered high cap mags for a price] Standard hunting rifles are usually equipped with no more than 3 or 4-shot magazines. [Does this really make you more comfortable? 3 or 4 people can be methodically murdered from unbelievable range while some idiot fired 30 rounds from the hip and is lucky to hit one person and is immediately clobbered after he runs out of ammo. How many rounds you have or can fire is a non issue, its what YOU do with those rounds that counts.] A folding stock on a rifle or shotgun, which sacrifices accuracy for concealability and for mobility in close combat. [And for an easier fit into the family gun safe as well as easier use by smaller petite people and those wearing thick clothing btw] A pistol grip on a rifle or shotgun, which facilitates firing from the hip, [There you go again with this BS. I guess you think that just because a person has a scope on their gun that this facilitates sniping? Grow up. People use their guns how they please. And most of us would actually like to hit the broadside of a battleship!] Allowing the shooter to spray-fire the weapon. [Easier said than done there slick. I tried it once when I was younger. Took a lot of stability and even then I couldn’t hit an old barn at ten paces!] A pistol grip also helps the shooter stabilize the firearm during rapid fire and makes it easier to shoot assault rifles one-handed. [I have to call bullshit on this one big time. You go out and try to aim or even shoot an 8-10 pound rifle with 1 hand. I wont be surprised if the gun goes to the anti aircraft role very quickly if you know what I mean. Do you guys ever have ANY personal experience with REAL firearms ANY time in your lives? When your experience with guns can fit in something bigger than a kiddy pool then give me a call. Till then you really don’t need to talk about something you know NOTHING about. Period.] A barrel shroud, which is designed to cool the barrel so the firearm can shoot many rounds in rapid succession without overheating. [What’s wrong with this? that’s just good common sense firearm care.] It also allows the shooter to grasp the barrel area to stabilize the weapon, without incurring serious burns, during rapid fire. [I hate to tell you this but you can get serious burns from gripping the barrel for just ONE shot. It is there for a reason. So that the person can have a stable basis for aiming the weapon. But wait why do they need to grip it if they are firing one handed? You are repeatedly defeating your own argument]....... |
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......A threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor, which serves no useful sporting purpose.
[What is YOUR definition of a sporting purpose? oh and last time I checked the 2nd amendment wasn't about hunting! It was about personal and national defense] The flash suppressor allows the shooter to remain concealed when shooting at night, an advantage in combat but unnecessary for hunting or sporting purposes. [Once again the second amendment isn’t about hunting deer there slick] In addition, the flash suppressor is useful for providing stability during rapid fire, helping the shooter maintain control of the firearm. [WRONG, you are getting confused with a muzzle brake. A muzzle brake provides stability for firing but does NOT reduce flash and even provides to magnify the noise. A flash suppressor DOES NOT do ANYTHING but reduce flash and many of them don’t completely eliminate it altogether] A threaded barrel designed to accommodate a silencer, which is useful to assassins but clearly has no purpose for sportsmen. [Wrong again, many shooting ranges have been shut down due to noise complaints. a tool that reduces/eliminates noise would be a welcomed gift to many communities that have shooting ranges] Silencers are illegal so there is no legitimate purpose for making it possible to put a silencer on a weapon. [That’s wrong altogether. I guess you "wish" that they were illegal but thankfully their not. I guess you can tell that I own an assault weapon. Do I do ANY of the stuff that you wrote that assault weapon owners do? NO. That is stupid, irresponsible and most of all impractical. Do I kill people on a daily basis? NO. Do I fantasize about murdering children? NO. Surprising huh? You’d be surprised to find that the majority of us "evil" people are normal everyday citizens like you. The difference is that we recognize our rights and choose to take full advantage of them. Why do I own an "assault weapon?" BECAUSE I CAN! That’s why.]
---------------- Feel free to add to this and edit it too. I need to edit and put in some more stuff but dont have the time right now. Good luck. |
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Here is my letter. Feel free to use:
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Back to the top!
If you're not too busy to defend your rights bump this thread to the top. If you've written your congressmen recently bump this to the top. If you really care, or even what us to think you care, bump this to the top. If you're as truely puzzled as to why people here are more interested in arguing over college football or what round kills zombies or supernatual beings but not wanting to fight for their rights bump this to the top. Are you going to stand around and let a few fight for your rights again - bump this to the top! |
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People here are more interested in posts about "wondering what Cinderella looked like naked" than defending their rights.
I learn something new about the people here everyday. Sheep. |
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I just would like to thank NYPatriot for all the leg work in getting the information in this thread to light.
I guess it is a btt as well :) |
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Thank you - have you thought about membership here? |
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NYPatriot, I would like to express my appreciation for the time and effort you have obviously devoted to research for this list. I will honor your efforts by starting my letter writing tonight!
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NO... Thanks to all of you who realize that this is not just a hobby or pastime that we are engaged in!!!
This is a bare knuckles brawl to reclaim our birthright as free men. This is battle to preserver & restore the cultural & philosophical legacy that is the grand American experiment. This is YOUR fight, YOUR chance to shape the course of history, YOUR responsibility, and YOUR burden to shoulder!!! All of which begs the question... Why was a thread as important as this one untracked after only a few days??? |
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... and this thread slips into oblivion, while the "Dumbest thing you ever said to a girl" thread stays up top with 1,500+ views & counting?!?!?!?
Sad... very, very sad! |
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Much thanks to the anonymous moderator or staff member who had the good judgement to re-tack this important & helpful thread.
You, my friend, get "it"!!! NYP |
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Great Thread!!
I just printed up one of the sample letters..signed my name, and sent it off to my RINO congressman (Jim Saxton). He is a strong republican in every other topic but guns, as he voted for the 94 AW Ban, hopefully he'll wisen up, and this bill will die a long slow death in committee. |
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I'm sending out ten more letters today.
10 letters at $.37 each is $3.70 about the cost of one box of M193 ... each a good investment but right now I'd rather be firing off letters than bullets. |
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Here's a little sample letter from yours truly (for those that need a little... perspective):
Dear Liberal Fuck-Ass, Your wonderful colleagues of years past embarked on a mission to make our streets safer by imposing unconstitutional restrictions on the American citizen's rights, AKA the 1994 "Crime Bill". The streets as you are well aware, are not safer because your colleagues in their "infinite wisdom" have failed to grasp a rather elementary principle: that criminals break laws, including those that restrict firearms. I certainly did not vote for you because your party is filled with idealistic morons who bargain away the rights of the citizens with feel-good pipedreams which never materialize, and I do not support those who align themselves with such assholes. I will however be happy to reverse myself in this instance. If you can prove that you actually have the intelligence to understand the constitutional ramifications of this injustice, and its abject failure, and are willing to vote AGAINST any such similar legislation I will not only retract my position about how I feel about you personally, I will guarantee you one vote (from myself) and will pledge my support amongst my colleagues (your constituents) in your re-election campaign. Hugs and Kisses, XXXXX: Potential voter or barrier to your re-election (you decide) |
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You'll want to add a sentence as the first giving them you're opinion rather than beating about the bush so much |
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Folks, I was hoping I could ask a small favor...
It's great that so many people have already taken the time to read & utilize this thread, but the more exposure it gets, the better our chances of generating the torrent of letters, faxes, calls, etc. necessary to ensure that when the AW ban dies, it stays dead! Thus, I respectfully ask that you add this thread to your "bookmarks/favorites" list, and that you spread news of it's existence & importance during your travels on the Internet. Trust me... opportunities to direct people to this thread abound! Every time someone, somewhere posts "What are you going to buy when the AW ban expires?", advise them to lend a helping hand & link them to this thread. Every time someone asks "Can I do this to my post ban rifle?", let them know that they can help make the terms "pre & post ban" an irrelevant memory, & link them to this thread. You get the idea... Please help me spread the word & together we can win this fight! Thanks. |
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i have my own cache of pre-written letters but i have added all of these to them. im sure my reps know my letters by heart by now. but you know what? EVERY time i send one, i get one back. even if its the same one over and over again.
i have just been sending letters to my reps and senators and the pres. but ill send some to all of the contacts on this list. THANKS PATRIOT! oh and btw,...BTT! |
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Davidp14...
Don't hold out on us, brother. Please feel free to post them to this thread. The more examples to draw ideas & inspiration from, the better! |
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So, the 13th has come and gone. I've tried looking for any news, but nothing has really been found. Just the old stuff. Has this been turned over?
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btt
Let's keep "a rifle behind every blade of grass." The Japanese knew what it meant in WWII and hopefully our enemies know what it means today. |
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Oh no... not this on-line petition again!!!
SpinaBifida, your desire to toss the AW ban onto the ash heap of history is admirable, but you need to WATCH OUT FOR MISDIRECTED, TIME-WASTING EFFORTS. Internet petitions are useless! They make folks think they are actually doing something when they are not. It's a false sense of accomplishment. We need to focus on the stuff that works!!! POLITICIANS ONLY CARE ABOUT VOTES AND MONEY. In-person visits, phone calls, faxes, and snail-mailed, typed, hand signed letters are the way to make your opinion heard, because politicians know that if you expend this much time & effort, you and your family will also vote & contribute to their campaigns (or not)! Sorry to rain on anyone's parade, but them's the facts... |
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Well, after arguing with the muslim apologist (simonovjr) for the better part of three or so nights, i thought i should do penance for wasting time. I don't think i have ever written my reps before, but i have called them once or twice.
So, here is my first $4.00 foray into politics: The first sample letter copied verbatim (I'm original, aren't I?) signed and sent to my two senators (one republican, one democrat) and al 8 members of the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security Thats 10 letters! I feel like I am actuall DOING something! I'm gonna cycle through most of the letters, and always hit my reps at least every month from now til the end and then i am going to write my own. I figure by that time I will have read enough that i can say exactly what i think and get the best response because the reps will have been hearing from me for a while. Oh, i only hit my two senators, I'll have to get the representative critter also. |
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Im mailing a letter to everyone on the list tomorrow. Even gonna hit my senator and congressman.
I'll keep em going out once a month till the ban sunsets. Thanks NYPatriot for doing such a great service for us all. 3-7infantry |
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Hummmm, Prez sez he supports the law = Me NO support da Prez... or any of his undertoads! The next election will find me voting for ANYONE even close to supporting MY RIGHT to own the tool to proctect my family from crime. Lord knows the police aren't capable of doing it alone in this day and age. And by law, they are not obligated to. We have to be prepaired to protect ourselves from the violent "victims of society" that the Liberals love to protect with stupid, yes --- I said STUPID, laws that do nothing to protect the REAL victims of crime. The perp has all the rights while the victim of his crime has none. The Liberals just excuse the criminal's behavior as just "acting out" as a result of a bad childhood. Let's see if they still feel that way after they are robbed, raped and have someone in their family murdered during a home invasion!!! Sorry, I've jumped up on that soap box again... Let's all make sure that the people in office know that WE CAN VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE. Please write your (I use the term "your" loosely) elected officials. Let them know that WE VOTE! |
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A couple of points to add...
- Some people seem to be a bit confused about why I posted the sample letters & what exactly I expect us to do with them. Please mix & match, cut & paste, and generally adapt these letters as you see fit. Heck... copy them verbatim & sign your name to them if need be, but please write!!! - It is very important that you write early & often! One barrage of letters is simply not enough. I know it is time consuming & a PITA, but we all need to write the politicians & organizations on this list multiple times in order to show them that we are a serious & persistent force to be reckoned with! Also, be aware that it is taking the Congressional, Senatorial, and Executive postal services aprox. 60 days to process all the written correspondence they receive (due to screening precautions over Anthrax), so in reality we only have another 9 months to write letters that will have any effect on the debate! |
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