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Posted: 12/16/2021 3:02:35 AM EDT
Had been on the lookout for a CZ527 Suppressor-Ready in .223, but with the 527 line being discontinued it seems like availability has really dried up fast.
The Ruger American Ranch offers pretty much everything I was looking for and a little more in terms of features. What's the overall view of quality and accuracy of these rifles? Thanks |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 11:03:42 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig24680: Stock looks better Fluting looks like someone was high Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig24680: Originally Posted By Gr8Santini: Some disagree, but I like the aesthetics of the new version. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23396/IMG_0772-3073914.jpg Stock looks better Fluting looks like someone was high High on life!!! |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 11:10:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mPisi: I got the RA Rimfire since it used all the 10/22 mags, just convenient. One of my few successful standardization efforts was only having 10/22 rifles for 22LR options (used to have 3 different brands). So adding the bolt gun was pretty easy and didn't violate standardization policy. Start people on the bolt gun and then move to the 10/22, only need to bring one kind of mag to the range. 5.56 RAR being picked up on Froday  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mPisi: Originally Posted By Capt_Destro: I'm having a hard time deciding between a Ruger 22lr bolt action, or a 10/22. I just figured the bolt action would make a decent enough analogue for the Ruger Ranch. I have a Winchester 69 22lr but it feels pretty damn crude. I got the RA Rimfire since it used all the 10/22 mags, just convenient. One of my few successful standardization efforts was only having 10/22 rifles for 22LR options (used to have 3 different brands). So adding the bolt gun was pretty easy and didn't violate standardization policy. Start people on the bolt gun and then move to the 10/22, only need to bring one kind of mag to the range. 5.56 RAR being picked up on Froday I know I'm on the wrong website to be saying this, but Bubba'dFuddGuns.com isn't a site (yet) - I prefer bolt actions. my favorite gun to mess with right now is probably a cricket (I made an adult-ish sized stock for it) |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 11:12:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gr8Santini: High on life!!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gr8Santini: Originally Posted By craig24680: Originally Posted By Gr8Santini: Some disagree, but I like the aesthetics of the new version. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/23396/IMG_0772-3073914.jpg Stock looks better Fluting looks like someone was high High on life!!! LOL I love how controversial the flutes are. Im astounded they didn't use a straight profile like the PC carbine I hope there are a lot of meetings about "flute-gate" at Ruger HQ |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 11:17:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig24680: Stock looks better Fluting looks like someone was high Stock looks like a bag of dicks The only thing they should have done was increase the factory stock rigidity and improve the action to feel like, say, a tikka. Let the buyer decide how gay of a cerakote job they want or how retarded of a flute job they want. |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 11:28:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Papposilenus: Im embarrassed I hadn't considered the 22. The 300 is so fun that thing has got to be great. Very overpriced for what it is. Savage markII is the way for a 22lr bolt gun. |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 11:52:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doubleshot00: Very overpriced for what it is. Savage markII is the way for a 22lr bolt gun. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doubleshot00: Originally Posted By Papposilenus: Im embarrassed I hadn't considered the 22. The 300 is so fun that thing has got to be great. Very overpriced for what it is. Savage markII is the way for a 22lr bolt gun. Does it use |
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Posted: 12/28/2023 11:54:28 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doubleshot00: Very overpriced for what it is. Savage markII is the way for a 22lr bolt gun. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doubleshot00: Originally Posted By Papposilenus: Im embarrassed I hadn't considered the 22. The 300 is so fun that thing has got to be great. Very overpriced for what it is. Savage markII is the way for a 22lr bolt gun. I put an RAR 22 on the MOA all day list with CCI SV a couple years back and paid just over $300. Not what I would consider overpriced, as a matter of fact I think it’s the best price for performance bargain I have ever come across. |
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Posted: 12/29/2023 12:01:56 AM EDT
[#8]
Family Firearms is advertising Gen 2 5.56 for $579, not sure if that is a deal or not, yet.
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Posted: 12/29/2023 12:09:56 AM EDT
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Question for you guys with the Magpul stock.
How solid are these? I feel like my action has some play. For example if I purposely try to flex the barrel and forend, the barrel actually stays in the direction I flexed it. I'm thinking the bedding blocks are suspect. I torqued the action screws to 65 inch lbs. I tried reseating and retorquing several times. One observation is that the bedding blocks are kinda slick. I wonder if roughing them up with low grit sandpaper will be better? I'll try to see if Magpul will send me a spare set to try out. I love the ergonomics aesthetics, but a $300 stock should be solid. Or do I need to actually bed this stock? |
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Posted: 12/29/2023 9:53:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By craig24680: Stock looks better Fluting looks like someone was high I don’t like the two-tone butt and cheek pad Shape seems functional |
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Posted: 12/29/2023 7:37:30 PM EDT
[#11]
Total domination
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NM, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2023 7:42:18 PM EDT
[#12]
Spiral fluting cuts more weight than straight, but certainly also cuts more rigidity.
Costs more to manufacture, too. I don't think it's a good choice. |
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Posted: 12/29/2023 8:01:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By badkarmaiii: Spiral fluting cuts more weight than straight, but certainly also cuts more rigidity. Costs more to manufacture, too. I don't think it's a good choice. I doubt you're going to see any kind of noticeable difference on OEM guns of this level. People go back and forth on flutes for high end custom barrels and end up divided. On a Ruger it won't matter. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2023 8:30:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I doubt you're going to see any kind of noticeable difference on OEM guns of this level. People go back and forth on flutes for high end custom barrels and end up divided. On a Ruger it won't matter. Fair point. Seeing what they're doing with the American II, it would be cool if they'd add 6.5 Grendel, 300 Ham'r, and 6.8 SPC to the Mini Ranch Rifle line. |
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Posted: 12/29/2023 9:42:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Just bought a Gen 1 in 5.56/.223. What weight ammo do these like? Heavy, light?
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Posted: 12/29/2023 9:54:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mPisi: Family Firearms is advertising Gen 2 5.56 for $579, not sure if that is a deal or not, yet. Fur and fish or some shit like that just had them on sale for 399. Thankfully they went oos while i waffled on the deal for a week, cause I really don't need to be spending money right now. |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 12/29/2023 9:57:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: Fur and fish or some shit like that just had them on sale for 399. Thankfully they went oos while i waffled on the deal for a week, cause I really don't need to be spending money right now. That was a gen 1 not gen 2. |
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Posted: 12/29/2023 10:01:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Darwin4570: That was a gen 1 not gen 2. Go find your own thread! |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 1:19:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: OBird]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doubleshot00: Very overpriced for what it is. Savage markII is the way for a 22lr bolt gun. Got mine for $385… really not THAT much more than a savage. Easily worth it for the 10/22 mags alone IMHO (I hate that curved stamped metal mag on the mk ii). Adjustable comb pieces, threaded 16” barrel, burnt bronze cerakote from the factory…love this thing  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 1:00:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: shwa]
[#20]
Predator 308
You may have heard of a Jungle Carbine. Well I don’t live in a jungle so here is the Appalachian Carbine. These are some T&E sights from @Papposilenus to which I am very grateful for the opportunity to give these a go.   Why have a bipod on the Appalachian Carbine? Because in Appalachia we do things different. Support hand is used to hold a beer. Not really, after this picture I was sighting in the rifle with a scope shooting some groups. Very impressed with this rifles accuracy for the money.   Pretty sure I dropped that third round on the second group. First group is a pretty accurate representation of what the rifle is capable of if I do my part, once the barrel is warm. First shot on a cold bore will go about 1” high. Fudd range rules only 3 rounds in a mag. Ammo 175gr razorcore. With standard 150gr ball it will group 1.5-2” consistently. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 2:17:36 PM EDT
[#21]
I’ve wanted a Ranch in .300 black. Should I wait for the Gen 2?
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Posted: 12/31/2023 2:22:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capt_Destro: Question for you guys with the Magpul stock. How solid are these? I feel like my action has some play. For example if I purposely try to flex the barrel and forend, the barrel actually stays in the direction I flexed it. I'm thinking the bedding blocks are suspect. I torqued the action screws to 65 inch lbs. I tried reseating and retorquing several times. One observation is that the bedding blocks are kinda slick. I wonder if roughing them up with low grit sandpaper will be better? I'll try to see if Magpul will send me a spare set to try out. I love the ergonomics aesthetics, but a $300 stock should be solid. Or do I need to actually bed this stock? Pretty much any stock will do that slightly. How does it shoot? |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 2:45:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG: I’ve wanted a Ranch in .300 black. Should I wait for the Gen 2? I vote no  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 2:54:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: I vote no https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4280_jpeg-3077173.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG: I’ve wanted a Ranch in .300 black. Should I wait for the Gen 2? I vote no https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4280_jpeg-3077173.JPG Look at that cute little fart.  I bump into the Ranch .300 Black from time to time. It’s either that, or a PSA 10.5” upper. |
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Posted: 12/31/2023 10:44:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: I vote no https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4280_jpeg-3077173.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG: I’ve wanted a Ranch in .300 black. Should I wait for the Gen 2? I vote no https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4280_jpeg-3077173.JPG Agreed Gen1 |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:30:37 PM EDT
[#26]
Congratulating myself on getting a good deal on my 5.56, and then about to order about $1500 worth of stuff for it, between optics, mount, suppressor, bipod, internals...
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Posted: 1/1/2024 9:57:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thebert]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mPisi: Congratulating myself on getting a good deal on my 5.56, and then about to order about $1500 worth of stuff for it, between optics, mount, suppressor, bipod, internals... I feel your pain. I already have a suppressor to go on it but I am right at about $1000 right now for all the other stuff. |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 10:52:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebert: I feel your pain. I already have a suppressor to go on it but I am right at about $1000 right now for all the other stuff. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebert: Originally Posted By mPisi: Congratulating myself on getting a good deal on my 5.56, and then about to order about $1500 worth of stuff for it, between optics, mount, suppressor, bipod, internals... I feel your pain. I already have a suppressor to go on it but I am right at about $1000 right now for all the other stuff. I had a new policy that every gun gets it's own suppressor... I really need to buy fewer guns. In the past hour I spent $1400 on scope, mount, and suppressor. And I have been cheaping out, my budget was way low. JFC maybe I should at least test that the rifle works LOL |
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Posted: 1/1/2024 11:05:10 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capt_Destro: Question for you guys with the Magpul stock. How solid are these? I feel like my action has some play. For example if I purposely try to flex the barrel and forend, the barrel actually stays in the direction I flexed it. I'm thinking the bedding blocks are suspect. I torqued the action screws to 65 inch lbs. I tried reseating and retorquing several times. One observation is that the bedding blocks are kinda slick. I wonder if roughing them up with low grit sandpaper will be better? I'll try to see if Magpul will send me a spare set to try out. I love the ergonomics aesthetics, but a $300 stock should be solid. Or do I need to actually bed this stock? I have a 556 and it is rock solid in that Magpul stock. I love it! |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 10:08:19 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNRonin: I have a 556 and it is rock solid in that Magpul stock. I love it! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNRonin: Originally Posted By Capt_Destro: Question for you guys with the Magpul stock. How solid are these? I feel like my action has some play. For example if I purposely try to flex the barrel and forend, the barrel actually stays in the direction I flexed it. I'm thinking the bedding blocks are suspect. I torqued the action screws to 65 inch lbs. I tried reseating and retorquing several times. One observation is that the bedding blocks are kinda slick. I wonder if roughing them up with low grit sandpaper will be better? I'll try to see if Magpul will send me a spare set to try out. I love the ergonomics aesthetics, but a $300 stock should be solid. Or do I need to actually bed this stock? I have a 556 and it is rock solid in that Magpul stock. I love it! Nice, Magpul is sending out a new set of action inserts/bedding blocks.. So hopefully that solves the issue. I do like the stock so far but I haven't shot it. While it does add more weight than OEM I can grip the forend out a bit farther. I haven't had the chance.to shoot it yet. Been pretty sick/miserable the last week between all of the holiday stuff. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 10:53:41 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebert: Just bought a Gen 1 in 5.56/.223. What weight ammo do these like? Heavy, light? I have a Go Wild that I put into a Magpul stock. I have tried quite a few different loads thru it. Really, it will shoot a bunch of different loads from 50 grain to 85 grain. But the 2 best loads on each end of the spectrum are a 50gr V Max with 26 grains of Benchmark with a 7-1/2 primer seated at 1.953" BTO and a 77 grain tipped match king with 24 grains of varget and a 450 primer seated at 1.965" BTO. These will not fit in an AR mag. I am using a Magpul 10 round 223 mag that they make for their Magpul Hunter stock. IM me if you have any other load questions. I have shot a ton of different stuff thru mine. It is pretty crazy just how good it shoots. All in, with a cheapy Arken SH4 6-24 on top, I have less than a grand into it. I also have a 22" 6.5 Grendel Predator model that shoots lights out. Going to grab one of the 7PRC Gen 2 models when they come out. Looking forward to having a long range monster at a deep discount over my custom rifles I currently have. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 10:59:39 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capt_Destro: Nice, Magpul is sending out a new set of action inserts/bedding blocks.. So hopefully that solves the issue. I do like the stock so far but I haven't shot it. While it does add more weight than OEM I can grip the forend out a bit farther. I haven't had the chance.to shoot it yet. Been pretty sick/miserable the last week between all of the holiday stuff. As it's been said by several on here it does make the gun heavier. So it's going to depend on your use case. Here's mine setup with a 1720 case and the daka grid system.  Attached FileI don't like the scope so high, but that's the way it set up now so I'm just going to leave it. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 11:13:43 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OBird: Got mine for $385… really not THAT much more than a savage. Easily worth it for the 10/22 mags alone IMHO (I hate that curved stamped metal mag on the mk ii). Adjustable comb pieces, threaded 16” barrel, burnt bronze cerakote from the factory…love this thing https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62477/IMG_4264_jpeg-3075600.JPG I dont look at 22. rifles the same as a other higher powered rifles. I like them as a cheap alternative (cheap optics to). The Savage i just got my son was a turn key $250 gun and its a blast to shoot. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 11:28:56 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: I vote no https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4280_jpeg-3077173.JPG I wanna do that. But then I always get to thinking "maybe I'll randomly wanna use it for deer hunting one day" |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 12:08:43 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: I wanna do that. But then I always get to thinking "maybe I'll randomly wanna use it for deer hunting one day" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: Originally Posted By bradpierson26: I vote no https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4280_jpeg-3077173.JPG I wanna do that. But then I always get to thinking "maybe I'll randomly wanna use it for deer hunting one day" That’s a 300 blk. IMHO, what he’s done has made it better for deer hunting. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 12:17:49 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gr8Santini: That’s a 300 blk. IMHO, what he’s done has made it better for deer hunting. I dont think my version of deer hunting is the same as yours, based off your location |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 12:22:40 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: I dont think my version of deer hunting is the same as yours, based off your location Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: Originally Posted By Gr8Santini: That’s a 300 blk. IMHO, what he’s done has made it better for deer hunting. I dont think my version of deer hunting is the same as yours, based off your location My idea is buy a second - probably in grendel or creedmoor |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 12:40:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capt_Destro]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNRonin: As it's been said by several on here it does make the gun heavier. So it's going to depend on your use case. Here's mine setup with a 1720 case and the daka grid system.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13145/FullSizeR_20231229_151538_jpg-3079307.JPG I don't like the scope so high, but that's the way it set up now so I'm just going to leave it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNRonin: Originally Posted By Capt_Destro: Nice, Magpul is sending out a new set of action inserts/bedding blocks.. So hopefully that solves the issue. I do like the stock so far but I haven't shot it. While it does add more weight than OEM I can grip the forend out a bit farther. I haven't had the chance.to shoot it yet. Been pretty sick/miserable the last week between all of the holiday stuff. As it's been said by several on here it does make the gun heavier. So it's going to depend on your use case. Here's mine setup with a 1720 case and the daka grid system.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/13145/FullSizeR_20231229_151538_jpg-3079307.JPG I don't like the scope so high, but that's the way it set up now so I'm just going to leave it. Looks sweet. I haven't had the chance.to shoot it yet. Been pretty sick/miserable the last week between all of the holiday stuff. I was surprised that the OEM Cheek Riser worked well with an absolute cowitness AR Mount. I ordered some spare risers to mess with, and some UTG accusync medium height QD rings. If this setup works as planned I can also tuck some Glock sights under the scope as a crude form of BUIS. (HTA Picatinny Bases) Probably just going to stick with a 1-6 LVPO. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 12:49:46 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Papposilenus: I know I'm on the wrong website to be saying this, but Bubba'dFuddGuns.com isn't a site (yet) - I prefer bolt actions. my favorite gun to mess with right now is probably a cricket (I made an adult-ish sized stock for it) A cricket sized, repeater bolt in 5.7X28 would rock 
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Posted: 1/2/2024 2:30:49 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: I dont think my version of deer hunting is the same as yours, based off your location Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: Originally Posted By Gr8Santini: That’s a 300 blk. IMHO, what he’s done has made it better for deer hunting. I dont think my version of deer hunting is the same as yours, based off your location Yes. Probably very different! |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 5:13:39 PM EDT
[#41]
Just waiting on my scope rings and suppressor mount, then I can rattle can everything as one
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Posted: 1/2/2024 7:28:07 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jstnstr: Just waiting on my scope rings and suppressor mount, then I can rattle can everything as one https://i.imgur.com/W0tlBIm.jpg I like it. |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 10:13:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capt_Destro]
[#43]
Ugh, I swapped my bolt handle out. Accidently did a thing with my firing pin and I had to use this trick.
 How To Reset A RPR Firing Pin The method works... But beware, the machining on the OEM bolt handle in the center is razor sharp. I sliced my hands up a bit and didn't really notice it until I saw the blood.  So not only did I have to attend to that, but I also had to awkwardly clean my firing pin stuff/etc. Anyways I'm really liking the Glade's swept back bolt handle. I also ordered the Anarchy Bolt Tool. This video kinda sold me.  HOW FAST can you run your BOLT ACTION? Glades Armory swept back bolt handle Ruger American Also I am less likely to bust my knuckles on my scope doing this. I still have to find my orange permatex vial. It has the temp rating/vibration of red, but will come off with tools like blue. Or do you guys just recommend using blue on the thread on bolt handles? |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 10:18:33 PM EDT
[#44]
Are $250 Gen I Ranch rifles a thing yet?
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Posted: 1/2/2024 10:53:00 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Missilegeek: Are $250 Gen I Ranch rifles a thing yet? Not going to happen |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 11:05:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bradpierson26]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Not going to happen Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Are $250 Gen I Ranch rifles a thing yet? Not going to happen I agree I’d buy two more though I’d buy one more at $350 - grendel or creedmoor |
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Posted: 1/2/2024 11:05:10 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Not going to happen Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Are $250 Gen I Ranch rifles a thing yet? Not going to happen 
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Posted: 1/2/2024 11:06:53 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: I agree I’d buy two more though I’d buy one more at $350 - grendel or creedmoor Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Are $250 Gen I Ranch rifles a thing yet? Not going to happen I agree I’d buy two more though I’d buy one more at $350 - grendel or creedmoor I'm in if I can get it for $350. Not $350 plus shipping, tax and transfer. |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 9:36:23 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: I vote no https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4280_jpeg-3077173.JPG Defiantly going to do this to mine but not that short. Probably 13" as i have found that my 12.5 300blk is way more accurate than my 9" and i dont want to cut the stock. |
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Posted: 1/3/2024 9:54:53 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bradpierson26: I agree I’d buy two more though I’d buy one more at $350 - grendel or creedmoor Same. Def in for .300 BO |
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