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Posted: 8/9/2004 9:28:48 AM EDT
I'm lucky that I am allowed to surf at work, but the filter that has been changed so that I'm now blocked from most of the gun sites I frequent.  Ar15.com and all the mirrors I know [jobrelated, arf, anti, etc.] have been blocked.

We can all decry the cultural politics that equate guns with porn.

The proxy I've tried is too slow and clunky to bear.  I'm on a T2 and hate to lose the speed!

I've seen lists of the mirror sites before and think I've tried them all.  Are there any new ones that the filter-Nazis might not have caught up to yet?

Thanks.


    Update 8-11-04
 
    www.banedsr.com is not magic either.  The filter is on again/off again, but when it's on,
    everything is blocked.

    Thanks to all for their help.

Link Posted: 8/9/2004 9:42:36 AM EDT
[#1]
you didn't list castle-hams.com/ in your list.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 9:46:55 AM EDT
[#2]
That's one of the etc.   Yep, it's blocked too.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 9:48:33 AM EDT
[#3]
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 9:49:19 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
www.jobrelatedstuff.com



Uh, me thinks he said that was blocked.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 9:49:35 AM EDT
[#5]
Is it possible that the filter is looking at the content of the front page and not just the url?
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 9:51:27 AM EDT
[#6]
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 9:53:44 AM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 9:54:33 AM EDT
[#8]
none of them will get me in where I work
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 10:16:08 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Is it possible that the filter is looking at the content of the front page and not just the url?



YUP.  He must not be up against one of the Brainless philters!
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 11:39:38 AM EDT
[#10]
www.banedsr.com is working.  Yeah!hank
For when they catch up to this one, tell me how to use the IP address number.

Now I need to find a way into tactical forums and 1911forum!!!!!

Thanks again.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 11:48:32 AM EDT
[#11]
If you have a philter that is even marginally decent, the IP number won't work.  That's the lowest level filter bypassing technique.  Not many places have that shitty of a filter these days.

I know an admin dude who won't tell me the secret to surfing undetected. I've almost worn him down.  There is a way to defeat ALL internet filtering.

It involves a process by which the Site Address is converted to Octal numbering, but he won't get more specific than that.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 11:50:08 AM EDT
[#12]
Go to https://megaproxy.com and go to ar15 from there. Its a SSL connection and most filtering software will not block it.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 11:52:46 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

It involves a process by which the Site Address is converted to Octal numbering, but he won't get more specific than that.



Most  of the filters have been set to see this. I will try to find the conversion for you. I have it some where. Just for refrence.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 11:53:08 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
If you have a philter that is even marginally decent, the IP number won't work.  That's the lowest level filter bypassing technique.  Not many places have that shitty of a filter these days.

I know an admin dude who won't tell me the secret to surfing undetected. I've almost worn him down.  There is a way to defeat ALL internet filtering.

It involves a process by which the Site Address is converted to Octal numbering, but he won't get more specific than that.



http://www.pc-help.org/obscure.htm
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 11:54:57 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Go to https://megaproxy.com and go to ar15 from there. Its a SSL connection and most filtering software will not block it.



It's been working for me.




CHRIS
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 11:58:12 AM EDT
[#16]
What's a T2? Are you referring to a DS2 that is 4xDS1?
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 12:02:50 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
What's a T2?  Is this a DS2 that is 4xDS1?


A high datacomm line, that costs $00s/month in charges. This is used mostly by commerical business for both data & voice.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 12:04:30 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If you have a philter that is even marginally decent, the IP number won't work.  That's the lowest level filter bypassing technique.  Not many places have that shitty of a filter these days.

I know an admin dude who won't tell me the secret to surfing undetected. I've almost worn him down.  There is a way to defeat ALL internet filtering.

It involves a process by which the Site Address is converted to Octal numbering, but he won't get more specific than that.



http://www.pc-help.org/obscure.htm



This is for converting IP addresses.  It might work for some, but not all.  I showed this to the dude, and it is not the Full Answer.  I tried this technique all the way to the Octal IP, and It didn't get past the filter.

Link Posted: 8/9/2004 12:06:21 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What's a T2?  Is this a DS2 that is 4xDS1?


A high datacomm line, that costs $00s/month in charges. This is used mostly by commerical business for both data & voice.



I see no references to T2s.  I'm aware of what a T1 and T3 and DS1, DS2 and DS3, etc.

Edited to add: I answered my own question.  It's equivalent to a DS2.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 12:08:14 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
If you have a philter that is even marginally decent, the IP number won't work.  That's the lowest level filter bypassing technique.  Not many places have that shitty of a filter these days.

I know an admin dude who won't tell me the secret to surfing undetected. I've almost worn him down.  There is a way to defeat ALL internet filtering.

It involves a process by which the Site Address is converted to Octal numbering, but he won't get more specific than that.



http://www.pc-help.org/obscure.htm



This is for converting IP addresses.  It might work for some, but not all.  I showed this to the dude, and it is not the Full Answer.  I tried this technique all the way to the Octal IP, and It didn't get past the filter.




Read a bit further down the page


Octal IP Addresses

As if all this weren't enough, an IP address can also be represented in octal form -- base 8.

The URL for this page with its IP address in octal form looks like this: http://0316.0277.0236.067/obscure.htm
Go ahead, try it. You'll be right back here once again..

Note the leading zeroes. They're necessary to convey to your browser the fact that this is an octal number.

Any number of leading zeroes can be added to any or all of the numbers in the address. For example: http://00000000316.000277.00000236.00000000067/obscure.htm

Naturally, arbitrary authentication text can also be added to an octal address. Example: http://[email protected]/obscure.htm

Octal numbers are easily derived with the Windows calculator in Scientific mode. Enter a decimal number, then select the "Oct" button at upper left. The octal number will appear. The reverse operation translates octal to decimal.

(Those who find all this unwieldy can always use the handy URLomatic at www.samspade.org. It will reveal the dotted-decimal IP address of a dword- or octal-formatted URL, as well as to decode hex character codes. This link to the URLomatic will completely decipher my original example address. Many thanks to Dan Renner of R&B Computerhelp).

Link Posted: 8/9/2004 12:10:06 PM EDT
[#21]
what I do is just remote desktop to home and surf via my home browser...

works fine and looks like I'm working.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 12:15:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 12:17:53 PM EDT
[#23]
I'm going to go ask the dick if this is what he means.  I'll be right back!
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 12:21:47 PM EDT
[#24]
Dickhead says that that is it!  I'll have to try it out sometime.
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 12:25:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 12:27:32 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm going to go ask the dick if this is what he means.  I'll be right back!

He'll take all access away from you except for the Barney homepage.
The first rule of Project Mayhem...



Yup this is what I did to some of my lusers.. Man I love host files!
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 2:56:46 PM EDT
[#27]
banedsr  may not be magic after all.  Gun sites are working right now, even www.ar15.com.  Maybe they're playing with my mind.  

Townhall.com and Rush Limbaugh are blocked.  Fox News was blocked Friday.  Don't know if it means anything, but http://www.democraticunderground.com/ gets through!


I can't tell you what a T2 is, but this my connection speed today:  2.63 Mbps   (336.7 KBps)
Link Posted: 8/9/2004 3:09:59 PM EDT
[#28]
Get an AOL account at work but use theuir fast lines, that way you can even go to porn sites!
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 2:55:54 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
banedsr  may not be magic after all.  Gun sites are working right now, even www.ar15.com.  Maybe they're playing with my mind.  


Update:    www.banedsr.com is not magic.  The filter is on again/off again, but when it's on, everything is blocked.

Thanks to all for their help.

Link Posted: 8/11/2004 5:24:08 PM EDT
[#30]
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 5:30:39 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
We have WEBsence at work and it blocks all "Weapon sites".

Any help fellows?



Try the IP Octal conversion discussed on the first page of this thread.  You need to get AR15.com's Numeric IP.
Link Posted: 8/11/2004 5:57:53 PM EDT
[#32]
RobertM,

We used websense here for awhile and IIRC, all blocking was done by IP address as well as hostname.   Every once in a while someone would complain about a "legitimate" site being blocked as porn or somesuch, because their provider used virtual hosting and also hosted porn on the same box, and blocking was by IP.   Anywho, we dropped websense after it became prohibitively expensive - IIRC, "Weapons" was one of the "premium" groups that cost lots of $$$ to have.   Submit a proposal to management to reduce the websense license to the base groups (porn and whatnot - mostly covers any liability concerns of management) as a cost-savings measure .

Rocko
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 5:15:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 5:23:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Websense.  It's a real bitch, aint it?  We've got it too, blocks everything, and I mean EVERYTHING.  Shit, I can't even go to archive.org because it's classified as "proxy avoidance".
Link Posted: 8/12/2004 5:38:24 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
what I do is just remote desktop to home and surf via my home browser...

works fine and looks like I'm working.




that is slick... I might have to set that up if the ever filter me
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 4:04:16 AM EDT
[#36]
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 4:30:05 AM EDT
[#37]
OK guys, as an network engineer working in a WebSense environment let me tell you that octal URLs will NOT fool most decent filters.

The solution is fairly simple . . . sub-MOA is very close.

1.  Get a cable modem at home
2.  Get an approx. 500Mhz PC and install Windows 2000 or 2003 server (hit the warez sites or ask a connected friend).  Turn on remote administration (already on by default in 2003).  
3.  Now the interesting part - WebSense will automatically block most outgoing terminal/remote desktop session.  This is based on port number . . . so just change the port on the server that terminal services runs through.  See this link for details.  I use port 22 (SSH) because it's usually open.
4.  Remember your home ip address . . . you can usually get this off of your routers remote administration page.
5.  Set your router to forward any traffic to your chosen port to the internal IP address of your server.
6.  Finally, go to work and open up remote desktop and type in <home ip address>:22.  Your desktop will open.


For increased speed, lower the encryption level to low.  Your video stream will already be pretty confusing to someone with a traffic analyzer.

This all sounds much more complex than it really is.  If you're not sure, get a tech savvy friend to help you out.  Other than the install, it's a 5 minute job.

Works for me, I can get to ANY SITE THAT I WANT.  I can surf porn, etc.  And all of the cookies/temp files stay on your home machine.  Of course, I also have a password over-ride on the WebSense server, but it's audited

YMMV

_Disconnector_
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 4:40:20 AM EDT
[#38]
Tag for when I get time to try this.
Link Posted: 8/13/2004 4:40:36 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
www.banedsr.com/



That's a new one on me.





Link Posted: 8/13/2004 5:11:43 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
OK guys, as an network engineer working in a WebSense environment let me tell you that octal URLs will NOT fool most decent filters.

The solution is fairly simple . . . sub-MOA is very close.

1.  Get a cable modem at home
2.  Get an approx. 500Mhz PC and install Windows 2000 or 2003 server (hit the warez sites or ask a connected friend).  Turn on remote administration (already on by default in 2003).  
3.  Now the interesting part - WebSense will automatically block most outgoing terminal/remote desktop session.  This is based on port number . . . so just change the port on the server that terminal services runs through.  See this link for details.  I use port 22 (SSH) because it's usually open.
4.  Remember your home ip address . . . you can usually get this off of your routers remote administration page.
5.  Set your router to forward any traffic to your chosen port to the internal IP address of your server.
6.  Finally, go to work and open up remote desktop and type in <home ip address>:22.  Your desktop will open.


For increased speed, lower the encryption level to low.  Your video stream will already be pretty confusing to someone with a traffic analyzer.

This all sounds much more complex than it really is.  If you're not sure, get a tech savvy friend to help you out.  Other than the install, it's a 5 minute job.

Works for me, I can get to ANY SITE THAT I WANT.  I can surf porn, etc.  And all of the cookies/temp files stay on your home machine.  Of course, I also have a password over-ride on the WebSense server, but it's audited

YMMV

_Disconnector_



I use ultr@vnc - but yeah, that will work too.

You can also use socks and remote desktop if the remote desktop port is blocked. But all that depends on more privs than your avg. user gets. (where I work anyway )
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 4:35:03 AM EDT
[#41]
tagged
Link Posted: 9/2/2004 6:27:43 AM EDT
[#42]
Tagged...
Link Posted: 11/14/2004 3:48:30 PM EDT
[#43]
tag
Link Posted: 11/14/2004 4:10:27 PM EDT
[#44]

This is hardcore, but it will work:

Find a friend with a unix machine running a local web proxy, have him give you an account.
Get an SSH client.
SSH into the box, and enable 'port forwarding' from 127.0.0.1:8080 to the remote machine proxy IP:port combo.

Manually set up your web browser to proxy all connections to 127:0.0.1:8080.

To keep them from detecting you, set a few manual domains in your web browser's 'no not proxy' list, like yourcompany.com, yahoo.com, gmail, google, etc. so they don't detect you.

I did this when I worked for a .mil contractor that heavily restricted your ability to connect to the internet.

You might need a nerdy friend or two to set this up though.



Defeats 100% of all web filtering.  Pornsurf all day.
Link Posted: 11/14/2004 4:19:27 PM EDT
[#45]
They should set one up for w00t.com/...

w00t!
Link Posted: 11/14/2004 8:25:11 PM EDT
[#46]
Tagged to stay one up on them.
Link Posted: 11/15/2004 4:38:13 AM EDT
[#47]
Tagged until I'm smart enough to make this work.
Link Posted: 11/15/2004 4:40:13 AM EDT
[#48]
I'm guessing bannedsr.com is no longer viable?
Link Posted: 11/15/2004 4:53:21 AM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
What's a T2? Are you referring to a DS2 that is 4xDS1?



A T2 is just another name for a DS2.  It is a T2 when it is in the OSP (outside plant) and it is considered a DS2 when it is in the subscribers hands.  They are the same thing.  Same as a T1 and DS1, T3 and DS3 etc...


-=Tim=-
Link Posted: 11/15/2004 5:00:39 AM EDT
[#50]

tag
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