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Posted: 4/12/2024 2:41:11 AM EDT
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Just saw the movie and thought it was incredible. Here’s a list of everything I can remember from the film, it’s absolutely NOT an “orange man bad” movie, or a “republicans bad” movie.
It’s a “a civil war on American soil would be unimaginably horrible for everyone” movie. They went to great lengths to make the politics ambiguous, I really think they want extremists on both sides to realize that a civil war isn’t worth it. Anyway, here’s the SPOILERS for the movie that made me think it isn’t blatantly anti-Trump or anti-right. I’m on my phone so I’ll try to use spoiler tags. Click To View Spoiler The war seems to have started when the president clung to power for a 3rd term. Which American president actually did this? That’s right, FDR, a democrat. Click To View Spoiler In addition, the president ordered air strikes against civilians. Can you name a president that has ever even talked about this? That’s right, it’s Joe “F-15s and Nukes will beat an AR-15” Biden. Click To View Spoiler The president also disbanded the FBI. This is arguably the most direct swipe at Trump in the whole movie, but you also find out the entire rest of the federal government is loyal to the president. Sure sounds like democrats to me. Click To View Spoiler NYC is completely loyal to the federal government. Not exactly a MAGA stronghold. This next one is a big one: Click To View Spoiler There’s an entire extended scene where boogaloo boys in a citizen militia, Hawaiian shirts and all, are fighting federal troops. Given that these troops are loyal to the civilian-bombing government, that makes sense to me that the boog boys would not be happy about it. They actually WIN the firefight, showing how civilians can use small arms, combat medicine, and basic squad tactics to defeat established militaries. Yes, they do execute the survivors from the feds after, so they aren’t perfect heroes. Click To View Spoiler There’s a reference to a past event called the “antifa massacre”. It’s never clarified if it’s antifa getting massacred or doing the massacring. I think this was a deliberate choice, extremists on either side will interpret it however they like. Click To View Spoiler The entire last 15 minutes of the movie is basically Zero Dark Thirty but it’s the White House instead of a compound in Abbottabad. There are several prompt executions of White House employees (including the press secretary!), culminating with the tyrannical president being pulled from under the desk in the Oval Office and getting coup de grace’d after begging not to die. Turbo based. Click To View Spoiler The journalists in the movie are PHOTO journalists. They talk about over and over how their job is just to capture what is happening and report back. No bias, no slant, no nothing. In one scene they even mock another journalist who actually writes articles. The movie was incredible. Go see it. If you’re determined to hate it, go ahead I guess, but you’re depriving yourself of an excellent movie experience. You’re also depriving yourself of the perfect retort to someone who thinks the government can just drone strike gun owners and that’s it, guns are gone now. |
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Well fuck... now I'm back on wanting to go see it
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"The Edge... there is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over." - HST
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Lol. Ok you convinced me. Your version sounds far more entertaining than the trailers would indicate.
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GD- "It's kind of like wading through through slimy lake bed with your feet to find clams below the surface".
- gtfoxy |
Originally Posted By BillofRights: Lol. Ok you convinced me. Your version sounds far more entertaining than the trailers would indicate. View Quote Don’t get me wrong, it isn’t die hard or red dawn, the focus is on the characters and the horrors they witness. But damn if the action scenes don’t hit hard when they do happen. I plan on pointing to this movie whenever anyone asks me why I’m so pro gun. “Go watch that movie and you tell me if you want anything from that movie to happen to you or your family”. |
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"The beginning of freedom from anger is stillness of the mouth when the heart is troubled"- Saint John Climacus
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Thank you for the info. The wife and I weren't sure if we should go and see it, but it looks like we will on Saturday.
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Tactical, hyper masculine, military style member.
USA
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In theaters only right now or can I stream it?
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3 minutes in I had to stop and double check that the lead role wasn’t played by Billy Corgan.
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Originally Posted By Anastasios: Cool. Found this on wiki https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/Screenshot_2024-04-12_1_16_52_AM-3185542.png View Quote |
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I choose violence
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I choose violence
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I don’t know if I can stomach the fictional alliance between TX and CA.
How is that even remotely plausible? |
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Poking internet kooks with pointy sticks since '81
FL, USA
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Refusing to give up the office is not exactly aimed at FDR, as this is a constant tome of the TDS folks.
Still, glad to hear it is not blatantly anti-Trump of Republicans. |
Repeal the 17th Amendment. Restore the Republic!
A right should restrict the government, not obligate it! |
Poking internet kooks with pointy sticks since '81
FL, USA
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Originally Posted By Anastasios: Cool. Found this on wiki https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/Screenshot_2024-04-12_1_16_52_AM-3185542.png View Quote Doesn't seem right. |
Repeal the 17th Amendment. Restore the Republic!
A right should restrict the government, not obligate it! |
Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie: South Carolina not in the Florida alliance, but in the loyalist? Doesn't seem right. View Quote Same with Kentucky, NC and WV. Plus that would be the Florida/Texas Alliance and quickly the entire NW as well with a sliver of the west coast and NE along with Illinois being Loyalist if we wanted to guess what would likely happen |
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When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty.
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For all the hype. The movie wasn't really what I expected, which is, unfortunately what I expected.
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Originally Posted By Anastasios: Cool. Found this on wiki https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/Screenshot_2024-04-12_1_16_52_AM-3185542.png View Quote Lol SC loyalist Dumb map |
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Is it free on Tubi yet?
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#53 says, "Take 22 mg absorbed Vit C per lb plus 1 gram Chaga daily. Don't forget 2000iu Vit D-3 & K-2, 30 mg Zinc and 2 mg Cu."
Unfettered with the formalities of an economics education but well read in monetary history. |
Extorris, because he's a heartless cunt. The purity of his apathy is laboratory grade, and I sleep well knowing that he's out there somewhere,
not giving a shit about anyone or anything. |
How do they identify "loyalist" states?
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Originally Posted By Extorris: Our side too, it was posted here constantly when Obama was in office. "Obama's going to declare martial law and cancel elections!" View Quote the people I've talked to that have seen the movie walked away with a 180 degree opposite impression then the OP. They said the speech by the president was worded exactly how trump would talk.. the SF team at the end was woke with a female SEAL all the people they ran into in the movie were the stereotypes the left is scared of given all that, I'm gonna choose not to give them my money immediately and wait until I can see it free or maybe not at all |
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Will not shelter in place
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Originally Posted By BourbonBeast: Just saw the movie and thought it was incredible. Here’s a list of everything I can remember from the film, it’s absolutely NOT an “orange man bad” movie, or a “republicans bad” movie. It’s a “a civil war on American soil would be unimaginably horrible for everyone” movie. They went to great lengths to make the politics ambiguous, I really think they want extremists on both sides to realize that a civil war isn’t worth it. Anyway, here’s the SPOILERS for the movie that made me think it isn’t blatantly anti-Trump or anti-right. I’m on my phone so I’ll try to use spoiler tags. Click To View Spoiler The war seems to have started when the president clung to power for a 3rd term. Which American president actually did this? That’s right, FDR, a democrat. It was legal when FDR did it. They changed the law after his third term. So to the democrats, that doesn't count. This is absolutely a swipe at Trump, because the left pushed the narrative that if Trump won a 2nd term, he'd cling to power and never step down. Click To View Spoiler In addition, the president ordered air strikes against civilians. Can you name a president that has ever even talked about this? That’s right, it’s Joe “F-15s and Nukes will beat an AR-15” Biden. Click To View Spoiler The president also disbanded the FBI. This is arguably the most direct swipe at Trump in the whole movie, but you also find out the entire rest of the federal government is loyal to the president. Sure sounds like democrats to me. This is true, they did push this. Click To View Spoiler NYC is completely loyal to the federal government. Not exactly a MAGA stronghold. This next one is a big one: Click To View Spoiler There’s an entire extended scene where boogaloo boys in a citizen militia, Hawaiian shirts and all, are fighting federal troops. Given that these troops are loyal to the civilian-bombing government, that makes sense to me that the boog boys would not be happy about it. They actually WIN the firefight, showing how civilians can use small arms, combat medicine, and basic squad tactics to defeat established militaries. Yes, they do execute the survivors from the feds after, so they aren’t perfect heroes. Click To View Spoiler There’s a reference to a past event called the “antifa massacre”. It’s never clarified if it’s antifa getting massacred or doing the massacring. I think this was a deliberate choice, extremists on either side will interpret it however they like. Antifa was the victim. Click To View Spoiler The entire last 15 minutes of the movie is basically Zero Dark Thirty but it’s the White House instead of a compound in Abbottabad. There are several prompt executions of White House employees (including the press secretary!), culminating with the tyrannical president being pulled from under the desk in the Oval Office and getting coup de grace’d after begging not to die. Turbo based. Click To View Spoiler The journalists in the movie are PHOTO journalists. They talk about over and over how their job is just to capture what is happening and report back. No bias, no slant, no nothing. In one scene they even mock another journalist who actually writes articles. The movie was incredible. Go see it. If you’re determined to hate it, go ahead I guess, but you’re depriving yourself of an excellent movie experience. You’re also depriving yourself of the perfect retort to someone who thinks the government can just drone strike gun owners and that’s it, guns are gone now. View Quote |
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Game on!
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Originally Posted By Anastasios: Cool. Found this on wiki https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/Screenshot_2024-04-12_1_16_52_AM-3185542.png View Quote Whoever did that needs to update it based on the Texas backing by other states regarding the border. |
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What’s the difference between pancakes and a Mini-14? Pancakes hit the spot.-dvanblaricom
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Ohio weather STILL sucks, even more!
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Originally Posted By BourbonBeast: Just saw the movie and thought it was incredible. Here’s a list of everything I can remember from the film, it’s absolutely NOT an “orange man bad” movie, or a “republicans bad” movie. View Quote I haven't seen it. It may not be overtly Anti-Trump, but I think it is by juxtaposition. The media and pedo Joe constantly talk up the threat of Trump and his terroist, anti-American MAGA followers and how they want to take over and destroy America. Then a movie happens to drop right before election detailing how bad a civil war would be. Media starts talking a lot about the movie and discuss "could it happen" with experts without ever mentioning Trump. It's about Trump |
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Ohio weather STILL sucks, even more!
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Originally Posted By right_rudder: I've seen some pretty well articulated arguments that Biden is Obama 3rd turn. the people I've talked to that have seen the movie walked away with a 180 degree opposite impression then the OP. They said the speech by the president was worded exactly how trump would talk.. the SF team at the end was woke with a female SEAL all the people they ran into in the movie were the stereotypes the left is scared of given all that, I'm gonna choose not to give them my money immediately and wait until I can see it free or maybe not at all View Quote Given that, and what the OP said, I'm thinking folks are going interpret this movie however they want. Likely whichever way they lean will determine that. |
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Originally Posted By djsmiles: The enemy of my enemy is my friend? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By djsmiles: Originally Posted By naes: I don’t know if I can stomach the fictional alliance between TX and CA. How is that even remotely plausible? The enemy of my enemy is my friend? It takes place in the future, when Texas goes blue. |
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Didn't the director specifically talk about modeling after a Trump presidency.
OPs claims are basically Hollywood not knowing a fucking thing outside of their shoebox and getting it wrong vs making a serious piece. |
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WTF is up with this bullshit anti-bayo lug crap. Was there a group of irrate japanese guys bonzai charging disabled school children and puppies that I wasn't aware of?
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Originally Posted By Anastasios: Cool. Found this on wiki https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/Screenshot_2024-04-12_1_16_52_AM-3185542.png View Quote Whoever made that map has no clue lol |
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I am hearing a lot of impressions that are 50/50 about this being pro/ant Trump. Looks like many people will just interpret the movie the way that fits their own narrative.
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Originally Posted By Anastasios: Cool. Found this on wiki https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/Screenshot_2024-04-12_1_16_52_AM-3185542.png View Quote IL, sure, way to the left. But IN? No way. They're a much freer state than IL, not even close. MO, KY, as loyalist. I doubt that. WI can go ether way depending on the election, but mostly freedom oriented. IA too. Not good choices by whoever did the map. |
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Aint nobody coming to WV.
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Tag for after I see the movie.
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DU and DB seem to think it's about Trump.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/alex-garlands-civil-war-review-explosive-warning-of-trump-takeover |
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It's a drumph hit piece. 100%. Kept vague enough to fool people like op into spending their money who then fool others.
Refusing to leave office ... Disbanding the FBI led people to rise up ... Come on man. You think they don't know what they're doing? A24 Is a manhattan-based studio. Of course they do. That's not lovable Joe Biden or black Jesus they're trying to insinuate. |
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This will be a war over good and evil, if anything. A tribulation war. A war over subjugation.
Liberals and evil, if different, want to paint the narrative early. |
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Faithful follower of Jesus Christ. Ephphatha! Maranatha!
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OP, your observations sound exactly like the type a right-minded person would make.
However, I believe a leftist would interpret all of those same scenes in the movie as "orange man bad" as they've been trained by the media to do. |
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Is OP a Never_Trumper? I’ve noticed a concerted effort by the leftist media to push EVERYONE into the theaters to see this. The leftists here as well.
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Originally Posted By konger: Is OP a Never_Trumper? I’ve noticed a concerted effort by the leftist media to push EVERYONE into the theaters to see this. The leftists here as well. View Quote I don't know but Lefty forums and DU are going on about how it's Trump and frankly their reasoning makes more sense than op which Just reads like an enlightened centrist Trying to pretend things aren't that bad yet. , And trying to pretend that the media has not wholly been weaponized against conservatives . And the Boomer thing about FDR Is hilarious, nobody cares about what FDR did. least of all A liberal movie studio. Like I said before, A24 is a manhattan-based studio. Disbanding the FBI? Refusing to leave office? That's not Uncle Joe or Daddy Obama they're talking about. Go read the DU link someone posted. It's A thinly veiled trump hit piece |
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OP laid it all out and people that haven't seen it still go full retard.
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Originally Posted By Anastasios: Cool. Found this on wiki https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369185/Screenshot_2024-04-12_1_16_52_AM-3185542.png View Quote NH is not a loyalist State! |
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I strive to be the man my dog thinks I am.
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Hard pass
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Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case of the Greeks and Romans and must be that of every free state. -T Jefferson
https://everycitizenasoldier.blogspot.com/ |
The movie is a one and done. I wasn't impressed with the premise and
Who were the reporters working for? Would a real break up have that many reporters not armed. The tactics at the end were not very smart or tactical. I wouldn't see it again. It was not democrats versus republicans. |
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Originally Posted By killstick_engaged: Shockingly, shitlibs say the opposite. Op does admit that there are some elements which are probably jabs at Trump. They sure as hell aren't jabs Uncle Joe. View Quote People here are just as stupid as libs, especially the one's debating that haven't seen it. |
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Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case of the Greeks and Romans and must be that of every free state. -T Jefferson
https://everycitizenasoldier.blogspot.com/ |
Sorry, that's a stretch OP, it's 100% still about Trump, everything out of Hollywood is.
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