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Posted: 4/13/2024 8:33:18 AM EDT
  A list of the traitors who passed it. The "no" votes actually are the people who voted for it. Burn in Hell vermin |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 7:38:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AXE0FWAR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Square66: Where I live now is irrelevant to the conversation. It’s only relevant if you want to play grade school playground politics and insults. I don’t live in a commie state, but Yankees and Californians are doing their best to make it one of that makes whoever is whining feel better. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 7:39:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Claytonhoneyberry: Texans vacationing in all the mountains states is no different than liberals moving into them. You're both no good and not wanted. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Claytonhoneyberry: Originally Posted By Falcon09: My family has vacationed in Pagosa Springs, CO every Christmas for the last 12 years. We won't be going back We went to Pinetop, AZ one year and they had snow at Christmas, we will probably start going to somewhere around there or maybe Ruidoso, NM, at least until they screw up their 2a. Texans vacationing in all the mountains states is no different than liberals moving into them. You're both no good and not wanted. I'm sure some liberals will eventually move there and fuck you too |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 7:40:30 PM EDT
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Just wait till they do it at the federal level like they did in 1994. Guess how many Republicans voted with Democrats for it? Almost all of them, including Mitch McConnell and John McCain.
Just vote them out, right? Rob Portman voted for the 2022 Safer Communities Act on his way out the door, along with a lot of other Republicans. Voting for them doesn't work. Voting them out doesn't work. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 7:40:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sc16: Who really gives a shit how many anti gun laws are passed, everyone's going to own them anyway, be adults and stop being whiners, nobody likes a whiner! What a shit post from a dikhead. Attention McFly....no one wants to be made a felon with the stroke of a Communist pen. Also, No one wants to live with that cloud over their head.....especially these days. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 7:45:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Missilegeek]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: Threaded pistols are assault weapons in CA. I assume it would be the same in CO. You can't just slap a new barrel on that is threaded because it would be like slapping a collapsible stock onto a rifle. It would make it an illegal assault weapon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Harlikwin: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: It does sound like California gun control but on steriods Its way worse than CA. It seems to ban 80-90% of all semi autos from what the various pro-gun orgs are saying. Certainly shit like semi shotguns and many hunting rifles as well. Unclear on the pistol thing but maybe those too. The way it's currently written, it would outlaw transfer of semi auto pistols with threaded barrels. Seems very easy to get around that, if the vendors are willing to continue to ship threaded barrels. It seems to have been intending to target all the pistol things the ATF was recently trying to label as SBRs. AR, AK, Suit Scorpion and so forth. They have a list. IIRC, the list doesn't have any CCW pistols on it. Remember 15+ round mags are already "illegal to transfer" in Colorado. I've never heard of that law being enforced, outside of the fairly infamous competition scandal a few years back. IIRC, that was in the Boulder area. Threaded pistols are assault weapons in CA. I assume it would be the same in CO. You can't just slap a new barrel on that is threaded because it would be like slapping a collapsible stock onto a rifle. It would make it an illegal assault weapon. There's no way to enforce that concept, with this proposed law in CO. It could just be a replacement part. Neither the state nor the vendor know what version of pistol you have, nor when it, or any replacement barrel was bought. If this passes, and I want to replace the barrel in my avatar, there's nothing in the law that prevents it. I'm not transferring or creating a so called assault weapon. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 7:45:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Millennial]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: Threaded pistols are assault weapons in CA. I assume it would be the same in CO. You can't just slap a new barrel on that is threaded because it would be like slapping a collapsible stock onto a rifle. It would make it an illegal assault weapon. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: Originally Posted By Missilegeek: Originally Posted By Harlikwin: Originally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: It does sound like California gun control but on steriods Its way worse than CA. It seems to ban 80-90% of all semi autos from what the various pro-gun orgs are saying. Certainly shit like semi shotguns and many hunting rifles as well. Unclear on the pistol thing but maybe those too. The way it's currently written, it would outlaw transfer of semi auto pistols with threaded barrels. Seems very easy to get around that, if the vendors are willing to continue to ship threaded barrels. It seems to have been intending to target all the pistol things the ATF was recently trying to label as SBRs. AR, AK, Suit Scorpion and so forth. They have a list. IIRC, the list doesn't have any CCW pistols on it. Remember 15+ round mags are already "illegal to transfer" in Colorado. I've never heard of that law being enforced, outside of the fairly infamous competition scandal a few years back. IIRC, that was in the Boulder area. Threaded pistols are assault weapons in CA. I assume it would be the same in CO. You can't just slap a new barrel on that is threaded because it would be like slapping a collapsible stock onto a rifle. It would make it an illegal assault weapon. Oddly enough, the law doesn't ban flash hiders. An A2 style flash hider wouldn't be that hard to integrally machine into the end of the barrel blank. And it would let you use Halo-style suppressor mounts. Or you could cut 3-prong style hiders in the end. Deep counterbore the front, hit the crown with a nice crowning tool, then cut the flash hider prongs or cage. AS long as the barrel nut could fit over it, just use a 2-piece gas block and youre good to go. Also, integral 3-lug barrels exist too. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 8:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonm78: Just vote them out, right? Voting for them doesn't work. Voting them out doesn't work. I think there may be another option that would get their attention. |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 8:30:12 PM EDT
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This is my state on pot.
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Posted: 4/13/2024 8:30:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: StevenH]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jb1001: Now over to the Senate? FPC can have an AWB case in the 10th Circuit court’s jurisdiction. Get this over with |
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Posted: 4/13/2024 8:33:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AXE0FWAR: It’s only relevant if you want to play grade school playground politics and insults. I don’t live in a commie state, but Yankees and Californians are doing their best to make it one of that makes whoever is whining feel better. I seem to remember it was you that wanted to make CA your whipping boy and blame CO’s problems on CA. I’d tell you to go ahead and make your case but you don’t have one do you? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 8:58:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hollywood387: Even a bolt action if it has DBM and a threaded barrel. It's a 2nd generation ban on virtually all firearms. You can keep what you have but you can never "transfer" them..... even to your heirs. H Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hollywood387: Even a bolt action if it has DBM and a threaded barrel. It's a 2nd generation ban on virtually all firearms. You can keep what you have but you can never "transfer" them..... even to your heirs. H Wrong. It bans semiautos with features, not bolt actions. "ASSAULT WEAPON", EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN SUBSECTION (2)(b) OF THIS SECTION, MEANS A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS... ... "ASSAULT WEAPON" DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY FIREARM THAT IS MANUALLY OPERATED BY BOLT, PUMP, LEVER, SLIDE ACTION, UNLESS THE FIREARM IS A SHOTGUN WITH A REVOLVING CYLINDER... And there's a specific exception for transfer to "an heir by bequest" AN ASSAULT WEAPON SHALL NOT BE SOLD OR TRANSFERRED BY AN INDIVIDUALON OR AFTER JULY 1,2024, TO ANYONE WITHIN THE STATE, EXCEPT TO AN HEIR BY BEQUEST OR INTESTATE SUCCESSION |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 9:00:39 PM EDT
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Coming to a state near you!
And country. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 9:00:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Like_Button: You all really going to let some grandmas and commies in suits take away your rights? No... The problem is the commies in suits usually send people armed with QI and actual assault rifles to take your rights. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2024 10:06:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Check the politicians, I bet you none of them are from CA. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR: Californians doing what Californians do. Check the politicians, I bet you none of them are from CA. Dude: Do you even live here.................. No? Well then shut your ignorant pie hole. The reason Colorado is well into circling down the drain is because of the That avalanche of crap started when we legalized Weed. And yes alot of them came from California. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:12:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: True. California conservatives are not conservatives- a two minute conversation on political issues proves it every time. If they were conservative, and freedom was important to them, they wouldn’t live there. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By RIP-Yataski: Originally Posted By AXE0FWAR: Originally Posted By Square66: And there it is. All California’s fault. I’m sure it has nothing to do with two generations of leftists being churned out under your noses in your own high schools and universities. You don't believe the massive influx of Californians and their well established voting habits has nothing to do with this?  I sure do. All Californians are leftists... ...its proven fact True. California conservatives are not conservatives- a two minute conversation on political issues proves it every time. If they were conservative, and freedom was important to them, they wouldn’t live there. I guarantee you that I'm to the Right of 99+% of the national populace. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:17:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mars87]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: Threaded pistols are assault weapons in CA. I assume it would be the same in CO. You can't just slap a new barrel on that is threaded because it would be like slapping a collapsible stock onto a rifle. It would make it an illegal assault weapon. Edited |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:26:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin76: I wonder if this "50 caliber" rifle ban was written intelligently enough to exclude muzzle loaders. from the looks of it nope your muzzle loaders are screwed, plus all those Mini 14 owners are going to be pissed, plus a bunch of other wood guns. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:36:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BEAST556]
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Legalizing weed is what killed this state, it drew in every type of person you don't want around. There were alot of people from cali but I saw way more east coast and Illinois plates moving in. Now it's just all the texans that can't drive for shit moving in.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 2:14:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Claytonhoneyberry: Texans vacationing in all the mountains states is no different than liberals moving into them. You’re both no good and not wanted. What a stupid post, and I’m not even from Texas. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 2:43:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CavScout: 50 cal LOL ok commie bastards. How many people died from a 50 in the CONUS? One thing is certain, they are scared. I could be wrong but probably more killed by shooting one with bad reloads or something. Damn near got KY Ballistics, think that is his youtube name. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 2:59:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AXE0FWAR: You don't believe the massive influx of Californians and their well established voting habits has nothing to do with this?  Colorado was always a pinko state, your telling me Gary Hart and Pat Schroeder were conservative? and that was 40+ years ago. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 3:00:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Check you ethics laws. Many states made ethics investigations mandatory during the summer of love era. Use a little lefty lawfare and file numerous complaints against the traitors. Start combing though your criminal laws as well. If you own a business trespass them. There are many legal ways of making your disapproval known. The Right is too lazy to do any of that. They just whine and bitch on-line, then bow their heads and say "yassa, massa!" |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 3:00:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 6SJ7GT: Check you ethics laws. Many states made ethics investigations mandatory during the summer of love era. Use a little lefty lawfare and file numerous complaints against the traitors. Start combing though your criminal laws as well. If you own a business trespass them. There are many legal ways of making your disapproval known. The Right is too lazy to do any of that. They just whine and bitch on-line, then bow their heads and say "yassa, massa!" |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:09:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By raider00: Colorado was always a pinko state, your telling me Gary Hart and Pat Schroeder were conservative? and that was 40+ years ago. The difference was back then they were all pretty moderate, as were the republican candidates. What got it fucked was the weed law, and with that one ballot issue the state went blue, shitloads of lefties flocked here, and the democrats became more extreme each election cycle. Thats in the span of 10 years. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:46:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: killstick_engaged]
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Lol weed will always be a trash drug for trash people. Synthesized forms already exist for medicinal purposes and are far more potent and useful.
Humans are indolent creatures by nature. Facilitate their indolence and they will begin to expect and demand more. Marijuana is illegal in both Russia and China, our chief geopolitical rivals. It is a net negative on society as a whole. Dumbass Americans just can't help themselves though. Marijuana and welfare. They'll get mad at you for wanting to take away their freedom to smoke And be broke while taking away your right to defend yourself. LOL had anyone who sides with either of those demographics on anything. Deserve everything you're getting. I hope They don't stop until it's new Great Britain 
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Posted: 4/14/2024 10:52:14 AM EDT
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This law says, generically, ".50 caliber rifle"... It does not say ".50 caliber or larger rifle" or "50BMG".
AS USED IN THIS PART 6, UNLESS THE CONTEXT OTHERWISE REQUIRES: (1) ".50 CALIBER RIFLE" MEANS A CENTER FIRE RIFLE CAPABLE OF FIRING A .50 CALIBER CARTRIDGE. THE TERM DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY ANTIQUE FIREARM, ANY SHOTGUN, INCLUDING A SHOTGUN THAT HAS A RIFLE BARREL, OR ANY MUZZLE-LOADER THAT USES BLACK POWDER FOR HUNTING OR HISTORICAL REENACTMENTS. (2) (a) "ASSAULT WEAPON", EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN SUBSECTION (2)(b) OF THIS SECTION, MEANS: ... (IV) A .50 CALIBER RIFLE; ... Isn't a .50BMG technically a .51 caliber weapon... so still legal? Did they just fail to actually ban the gun they wanted to? For example, here's wording for CA's .50 caliber ban (which is why the .50AE, .500BEO, and .500S&W still ended up being CA legal). A .50 BMG rifle is defined as a centerfire rifle that can fire a .50 BMG cartridge and is not already an assault weapon ... or a machinegun" ... ".50 BMG cartridge" is defined as a cartridge that is designed and intended to be fired from a centerfire rifle and that meets all of the following criteria: (1) It has an overall length of 5.54 inches (141 mm) from the base to the tip of the bullet. (2) The bullet diameter for the cartridge is from .510 to, and including, .511-inch (13.0 mm). (3) The case base diameter for the cartridge is from .800-inch (20.3 mm) to, and including, .804 inch. (4) The cartridge case length is 3.91 inches (99 mm). (PC § 12278.) |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:03:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Millennial]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By killstick_engaged: Lol weed will always be a trash drug for trash people. Synthesized forms already exist for medicinal purposes and are far more potent and useful. Humans are indolent creatures by nature. Facilitate their indolence and they will begin to expect and demand more. Marijuana is illegal in both Russia and China, our chief geopolitical rivals. It is a net negative on society as a whole. Dumbass Americans just can't help themselves though. Marijuana and welfare. They'll get mad at you for wanting to take away their freedom to smoke And be broke while taking away your right to defend yourself. LOL had anyone who sides with either of those demographics on anything. Deserve everything you're getting. I hope They don't stop until it's new Great Britain Meh... Shouldn't have been illegal in the first place. If people want to grow pot or tobacco or drink fermented beverages and use or share it amongst themselves... that should be all good and fine. They're fairly benign and naturally occurring substances that predate the US government itself. And if the government wants to regulate the commercial business or commerce or public use thereof, then fine. But none of that should have ever been illegal in the first place. That's where the political wedge issues and crime issues stem from, and in a supposedly free nation we should err on the side of less regulation and personal prohibitions, not more. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:08:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dirtyboy: This is my state on pot. And dicks…….dont forget the dicks |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 11:25:08 AM EDT
[#29]
Bruen really poked the hornet’s nest. This makes 6 states since Bruen to pass an AWB, with 10 or 11 others where it's at least somewhat likely in the next 2-3 years.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 12:23:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RogueSpear2023: from the looks of it nope your muzzle loaders are screwed, plus all those Mini 14 owners are going to be pissed, plus a bunch of other wood guns. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RogueSpear2023: Originally Posted By Ronin76: I wonder if this "50 caliber" rifle ban was written intelligently enough to exclude muzzle loaders. from the looks of it nope your muzzle loaders are screwed, plus all those Mini 14 owners are going to be pissed, plus a bunch of other wood guns. Muzzle loaders are specifically exempted. That part of the bill was posted earlier in the thread, or maybe into the other thread. Not that they need to be exempted, because they aren't semi auto. The proposed bill would only effect semi auto. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 12:25:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: The difference was back then they were all pretty moderate, as were the republican candidates. What got it fucked was the weed law, and with that one ballot issue the state went blue, shitloads of lefties flocked here, and the democrats became more extreme each election cycle. Thats in the span of 10 years. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Harlikwin: Originally Posted By raider00: Colorado was always a pinko state, your telling me Gary Hart and Pat Schroeder were conservative? and that was 40+ years ago. The difference was back then they were all pretty moderate, as were the republican candidates. What got it fucked was the weed law, and with that one ballot issue the state went blue, shitloads of lefties flocked here, and the democrats became more extreme each election cycle. Thats in the span of 10 years. Yep. This was a totally different state in 2008. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 12:29:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypselus: Bruen really poked the hornet’s nest. This makes 6 states since Bruen to pass an AWB, with 10 or 11 others where it's at least somewhat likely in the next 2-3 years. SCOTUS needs to layeth the smackdown on all this shit. Clearly a violation of the 2A, and a giant fuck you to Bruen. Circuits with different rulings would hopefully expedite things. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 12:37:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Square66: And there it is. All California’s fault. I’m sure it has nothing to do with two generations of leftists being churned out under your noses in your own high schools and universities. My Boomer aunts and uncles(very conservative )that live in CO, and have for much of their lives have kids that are Gen Xers and they are for the most part very liberal. They had kids and guess what they are liberal as well. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 12:43:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Square66]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: SCOTUS needs to layeth the smackdown on all this shit. Clearly a violation of the 2A, and a giant fuck you to Bruen. Circuits with different rulings would hopefully expedite things. The problem is SCOTUS has no enforcement arm. It’s not like FJB is going to make sure the feds are going to come down on the states for violating pro 2A court rulings. The leftist state governments just tell SCOTUS to go fuck themselves and pass more restrictions anyway. The courts and the law aren’t coming to help us. It’s like the movie Casino. “When Nikkie won, he collected, when he lost he told the bookies to go fuck themselves. What were they going to do muscle Nikkie ? Nikkie was the muscle.” |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 12:47:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jb1001: Now over to the Senate? I want to see that cunt Epps head explode. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 12:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMCTanker: Marijuana is a way of life for far too many, and most will happily give up enumerated rights so they can smoke their precious weed. Useless fucking pieces of shit. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 12:49:47 PM EDT
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Montana is maybe 10 years away from this, but probably 5.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2024 12:56:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: saigamanTX]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BEAST556: Legalizing weed is what killed this state, it drew in every type of person you don't want around. There were alot of people from cali but I saw way more east coast and Illinois plates moving in. Now it's just all the texans that can't drive for shit moving in. I am so sick of this argument. The old guard of Republicans and their war on drugs did this. If the Republican party had gotten out ahead of the Democrats in at least looking at decriminalization of marijuana it would have taken the wind out of the Democrats sails. The problem is the GOP is too busy shooting themselves in the fucking foot to even pay attention. The Dems took control of this state with the legalization but not the way you think. They did it because the Republican party won't get out of the stone age and look at subjects from an open eye. I've lived here since late 2012. What we have is a fight between generations here. Hernandez and Epps the two shit stains who introduced this were not elected. They got in on redistricting bs so they feel entitled. The House is filled with true believers and young shit heads. The CO senate is filled with more moderates. Ever since 2016 there's been a war between the house and the senate the house believes they have the power they should wield it. The senate while Democrat believes in the more traditional way of doing things. There are just as many Democrat gun owners here that are just as pissed about this as the conservatives. The thing is the politicians in the house are not Democrats. They are progressive socialists. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:15:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: uncle_big_green]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Millennial: Meh... Shouldn't have been illegal in the first place. If people want to grow pot or tobacco or drink fermented beverages and use or share it amongst themselves... that should be all good and fine. They're fairly benign and naturally occurring substances that predate the US government itself. And if the government wants to regulate the commercial business or commerce or public use thereof, then fine. But none of that should have ever been illegal in the first place. That's where the political wedge issues and crime issues stem from, and in a supposedly free nation we should err on the side of less regulation and personal prohibitions, not more. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Millennial: Originally Posted By killstick_engaged: Lol weed will always be a trash drug for trash people. Synthesized forms already exist for medicinal purposes and are far more potent and useful. Humans are indolent creatures by nature. Facilitate their indolence and they will begin to expect and demand more. Marijuana is illegal in both Russia and China, our chief geopolitical rivals. It is a net negative on society as a whole. Dumbass Americans just can't help themselves though. Marijuana and welfare. They'll get mad at you for wanting to take away their freedom to smoke And be broke while taking away your right to defend yourself. LOL had anyone who sides with either of those demographics on anything. Deserve everything you're getting. I hope They don't stop until it's new Great Britain Meh... Shouldn't have been illegal in the first place. If people want to grow pot or tobacco or drink fermented beverages and use or share it amongst themselves... that should be all good and fine. They're fairly benign and naturally occurring substances that predate the US government itself. And if the government wants to regulate the commercial business or commerce or public use thereof, then fine. But none of that should have ever been illegal in the first place. That's where the political wedge issues and crime issues stem from, and in a supposedly free nation we should err on the side of less regulation and personal prohibitions, not more. Some people like to blame weed legalization instead of themselves. It's a coping mechanism (for supporting statist policies and being part of the problem). |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:19:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheWhiteHorse: Montana is maybe 10 years away from this, but probably 5. Sad. I would have liked to have seen Montana. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:22:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Square66: I seem to remember it was you that wanted to make CA your whipping boy and blame CO’s problems on CA. I’d tell you to go ahead and make your case but you don’t have one do you? You haven’t been here long, but in many CO threads the long time residents explicitly blame the influx of Californians for many of the issues they’re facing. This thread just happened to be pounced on by a couple of butthurt Californians who took exception. I don’t care either way, I don’t live in either state and they’re both largely inhabited by leftist clowns. Enjoy your nice weather and great food. 
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:23:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: killstick_engaged]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Millennial: Meh... Shouldn't have been illegal in the first place. If people want to grow pot or tobacco or drink fermented beverages and use or share it amongst themselves... that should be all good and fine. They're fairly benign and naturally occurring substances that predate the US government itself. And if the government wants to regulate the commercial business or commerce or public use thereof, then fine. But none of that should have ever been illegal in the first place. That's where the political wedge issues and crime issues stem from, and in a supposedly free nation we should err on the side of less regulation and personal prohibitions, not more. I disagree. It absolutely should be illegal because humans are selfish indolent creatures who will only seek evermore means to be lazier and more selfish. Don't believe me? Look at the potheads that ruin Colorado , now let's see how many of them are gainfully employed as of 2024. There's a reason why the little baby plant is still illegal in our chief geopolitical rival countries, China and Russia. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:24:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Square66: The problem is SCOTUS has no enforcement arm. It’s not like FJB is going to make sure the feds are going to come down on the states for violating pro 2A court rulings. The leftist state governments just tell SCOTUS to go fuck themselves and pass more restrictions anyway. The courts and the law aren’t coming to help us. It’s like the movie Casino. “When Nikkie won, he collected, when he lost he told the bookies to go fuck themselves. What were they going to do muscle Nikkie ? Nikkie was the muscle.” This is very well put for why the supreme Court is a useless apparatus in 2024. And people have figured it out which is why they're giving them the finger and being as blatantly unconstitutional as they please. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:29:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AXE0FWAR: You haven’t been here long, but in many CO threads the long time residents explicitly blame the influx of Californians for many of the issues they’re facing. This thread just happened to be pounced on by a couple of butthurt Californians who took exception. I don’t care either way, I don’t live in either state and they’re both largely inhabited by leftist clowns. Enjoy your nice weather and great food. Yeah imagine taking exception to being blamed for everything under the sun that happens in other states. Sorry some manties got in a bunch when Californians get sick of being used as a punching bag. Keep looking for your bottom, you won’t find it here. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:29:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Falcon09: If you don't want me to spend my hard earned money in your town, fine with me I'm sure some liberals will eventually move there and fuck you too edit no gambling, drinking on Sunday and fornicating between non married people isn't allowed |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:41:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saigamanTX: NO IT FUCKING DIDNT! I am so sick of this argument. The old guard of Republicans and their war on drugs did this. If the Republican party had gotten out ahead of the Democrats in at least looking at decriminalization of marijuana it would have taken the wind out of the Democrats sails. The problem is the GOP is too busy shooting themselves in the fucking foot to even pay attention. The Dems took control of this state with the legalization but not the way you think. They did it because the Republican party won't get out of the stone age and look at subjects from an open eye. I've lived here since late 2012. What we have is a fight between generations here. Hernandez and Epps the two shit stains who introduced this were not elected. They got in on redistricting bs so they feel entitled. The House is filled with true believers and young shit heads. The CO senate is filled with more moderates. Ever since 2016 there's been a war between the house and the senate the house believes they have the power they should wield it. The senate while Democrat believes in the more traditional way of doing things. There are just as many Democrat gun owners here that are just as pissed about this as the conservatives. The thing is the politicians in the house are not Democrats. They are progressive socialists. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By saigamanTX: Originally Posted By BEAST556: Legalizing weed is what killed this state, it drew in every type of person you don't want around. There were alot of people from cali but I saw way more east coast and Illinois plates moving in. Now it's just all the texans that can't drive for shit moving in. I am so sick of this argument. The old guard of Republicans and their war on drugs did this. If the Republican party had gotten out ahead of the Democrats in at least looking at decriminalization of marijuana it would have taken the wind out of the Democrats sails. The problem is the GOP is too busy shooting themselves in the fucking foot to even pay attention. The Dems took control of this state with the legalization but not the way you think. They did it because the Republican party won't get out of the stone age and look at subjects from an open eye. I've lived here since late 2012. What we have is a fight between generations here. Hernandez and Epps the two shit stains who introduced this were not elected. They got in on redistricting bs so they feel entitled. The House is filled with true believers and young shit heads. The CO senate is filled with more moderates. Ever since 2016 there's been a war between the house and the senate the house believes they have the power they should wield it. The senate while Democrat believes in the more traditional way of doing things. There are just as many Democrat gun owners here that are just as pissed about this as the conservatives. The thing is the politicians in the house are not Democrats. They are progressive socialists. The weed thing wasn't solely to blame, but was a major factor. Not because weed is particularly evil, but due to the timing. Being an early adopter of legalization brought in a lot of stupid from around the country. Weed was used by the Communists to recruit their blue haired voters to the front range. At the time, weed was illegal in most places, Colorado was an early adopter of medical, then an early adopter of recreational. Weed tourism and people moving here to party was absolutely a thing. Anyone who says it wasn't, has no idea. From 2014 to 2016, you couldn't drive a major road in this city without seeing a car full of degenerates hot boxing with smoke pouring out of the windows... During the middle of the work day. About half of them were tourists, and the other half losers who moved here just for the weed, with very little plans or resources. That combined with Obama's economy, was a death sentence for Colorado. At the same time, thousands of young people moved to Denver, when it was one of the few cities in the nation with jobs. Those young people (who mostly vote blue anyway) mostly moved from other cities (who are full of dems). The people who moved for jobs in Denver screwed us just as much, but probably more, than weed. Who works in the pot industry here? A ton of the "bud tenders" are "Colorado hot" younger girls, who are at best a 6. Tons of them are from broken homes from out of state, and wield florescent hair, tats, piercings. How do you think they vote? There are thousands or tens of thousands of these harlots. Weed was supposed to raise taxes to fix schools, roads ect... I travel a lot, and we have some of the shittiest roads in the US that rival a lot of 3rd world nations. The buildings at my kids schools were built in the 60s or 70s. Anything newer than that is a trailer. The pot tax money has done nothing for the average citizen. Being an early legalizer of weed definitely accelerated Colorado's decline. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to cope. However, it was still just one factor, and even if that didn't happen, we were heading in this direction anyway. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:52:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ronin76: I wonder if this "50 caliber" rifle ban was written intelligently enough to exclude muzzle loaders. Hopefully not. The Fudds need to learn that the left thinks all weapons are assault weapons. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:56:09 PM EDT
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Back in the W Bush era and before I'm pretty sure CO was a red state. Then it went purple and eventually blue.
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:57:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MilHouse-556: Back in the W Bush era and before I'm pretty sure CO was a red state. Then it went purple and eventually blue. It's been purple a long time. There were Dem governors even in the 70s. They just werent rabidly insane like what we have now. |
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Posted: 4/14/2024 1:57:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caeser2001: Hopefully not. The Fudds need to learn that the left thinks all weapons are assault weapons. Sadly it does. If it didnt it would be super easy to defeat in court. |
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