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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:28:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:29:42 PM EDT
[#1]
You know they have people in there.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:31:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: DrPerceptron]
[#2]
NVM
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:32:02 PM EDT
[#3]
Why nukeless?
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:33:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Bunker Buster Thread!
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KS, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:36:49 PM EDT
[#5]
Yes. It's called compound strikes.
First bomb penetrates. Second bomb clears rubble. Third bomb penetrates where second bomb clears rubble..so on so forth. Something like B1 bomber could drop a significant number of 2000 GPS or laser guided bombs onto the same 10 square feet time and time again until it penetrates whatever it wants. It's usually done with a train of planes, typically staggered in 30 second intervals. That's the operational plan, anyways. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 5:53:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SACraig]
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:20:58 PM EDT
[#7]
I was watching the Mike Vining interview and he said we have a MOP. Massive Ordnance Penetrator, that was non nuclear.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:24:24 PM EDT
[#8]
this is why we have so many trannies in the military. You just send wave after wave of your own men/women/xirs till you exceed the enemies kill limit and they shut down.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:24:30 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hollowhandle: I was watching the Mike Vining interview and he said we have a MOP. Massive Ordnance Penetrator, that was non nuclear. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:25:35 PM EDT
[#10]
MOP
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:25:47 PM EDT
[#11]
If the network is not air gapped, won't even need a bomb.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:26:29 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SACraig: MOAB (Mother Of All Bombs) Nope the AB stands for Air Blast. What your are looking for is the GBU-57A/B MOP Massive Ordnance Penetrator. MOP |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:26:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Scratch45]
[#13]
It is the procedure for second wall penetration more than the tool.
To be honest, after second wall penetration and release, I have heard it described as "nuclear" |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:28:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Yes, but we'll be kicked off of arf for posting pics.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:30:07 PM EDT
[#15]
If we know the true specs of the target, then it’s possible
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:33:10 PM EDT
[#16]
MOP pen is 200ft of concrete, probably more if 200 is the unclassified number. I have no idea how deep Iran's bunkers are.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:38:37 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beitodesstrafe: Bunker Buster Thread! Cobra-AK to the courtesy phone, please. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:38:45 PM EDT
[#18]
We could certainly collapse all the tunnels and air shafts.
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:42:39 PM EDT
[#19]
Guesstimates say they may have some 300 feet deep dug into the side of a mountain. It might just be a cardboard mockup though.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 6:56:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: Guesstimates say they may have some 300 feet deep dug into the side of a mountain. It might just be a cardboard mockup though. Our cardboard mockups penetrate more than other countries' real shit 
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:10:13 PM EDT
[#21]
Meh. Just use nukes.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:26:19 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Meh. Just use nukes. Problem is that Iran likely just recently acquired nukes of their own and has a fanatical islamist leadership that is looking to use them in order to summon a 12th imam coming out of a well somewhere. This is why they are no longer afraid of launching attacks from their own territory. If you nuke them and don't kill all of their nukes they will try to nuke us or our allies in retaliation, WW3 style. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:29:53 PM EDT
[#23]
Post "The US doesn't have a bunker buster that could destroy Iran's nuclear facilities" in a war thunder discord. You'll have all the classified deets within the hour
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AUT
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:31:14 PM EDT
[#24]
I'm sure GD will know
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:33:04 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SACraig: MOAB (Mother Of All Bombs) made in my home town. get some McAAP |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:33:34 PM EDT
[#26]
The complex proper, probably not, but the access points are toast. Bury them alive.
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:34:03 PM EDT
[#27]
However deep it is, there's a tunnel to the top for people to come and go. Collapse that, and continue to hit it every 6 hours for a couple of days. Whoever and whatever was down there will expire.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:36:07 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Caboose314: Post "The US doesn't have a bunker buster that could destroy Iran's nuclear facilities" in a war thunder discord. You'll have all the classified deets within the hour  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:36:26 PM EDT
[#29]
Doesn't the MOP require a large cargo-type plane for delivery?
If so, how's that lumbering beast going to get through Iran's air defenses? |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:39:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fast_fairlane: Yes. It's called compound strikes. First bomb penetrates. Second bomb clears rubble. Third bomb penetrates where second bomb clears rubble..so on so forth. Something like B1 bomber could drop a significant number of 2000 GPS or laser guided bombs onto the same 10 square feet time and time again until it penetrates whatever it wants. It's usually done with a train of planes, typically staggered in 30 second intervals. That's the operational plan, anyways. There was a recent documentary about a bunch of hot shot f-18 pilots that did this … two of them got shot down and ended up having to evade capture By stealing an antique f14 and running … |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:52:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BLITZ999: I'm sure GD will know I'm sure there is someone on here that does know, just not willing or able to confirm it. There is an awfully large cross section of all walks of life here. There are world renowned scientists here. Even one willing to call BS to another user that didn't know what he was talking about. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:54:00 PM EDT
[#32]
2 pounds of chili and a six pack, and I'll bust 'em wide open.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:55:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NukeThemTillTheyGlow]
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Meh. Just use nukes. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:55:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: piciphant]
[#34]
rods from god
eta tungsten rods dropped from orbit, on you tube |
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USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 7:55:57 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Obo2: this is why we have so many trannies in the military. You just send wave after wave of your own men/women/xirs till you exceed the enemies kill limit and they shut down. I don't know but I've been told, trannies can generate menstruated coordinates. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:00:55 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fast_fairlane: Something like B1 bomber could drop a significant number of 2000 GPS or laser guided bombs onto the same 10 square feet time and time again until it penetrates whatever it wants. and yet we still manage drop bombs on wedding parties. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:07:19 PM EDT
[#37]
im gonna speculate that its possible to build a bunker that couldnt be defeated, at least by conventional and maybe even thermo nuclear explosives unless it was something like a full blow tsar bomba (the one the exploded was a half strength version). you find a mountain range where granite or similar is what its made of, then you go down, way way down under that mountain with multiple layers of reinforced concrete. its gonna take an asteroid strike to get down there. as to hitting all the exits, maybe.. that seems like a loosing proposition. once you start bombing the hell out of iran to destroy their nukes, you better hope you get them all, otherwise they are liable to show up anywhere in the world as all bets would be off as far as iran was concerned. you might as well go ahead and thermo nuke the entire country and hope you get them all and the ruskies and chyneze dont get ultra pissed at all the radioactive clouds drifting their way.
one wonders... is cheyenne mountain an impossible target...? as an example of a super bunker. |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:12:27 PM EDT
[#38]
Last I heard the izzies didn't have the tankers to strike all the distributed targets they need to service in order to bring the persian nuke pgm to a halt. So they used cyber to burn the centrifuges. That was a pretty intresting story.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:19:50 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By texasaggie: Problem is that Iran likely just recently acquired nukes of their own and has a fanatical islamist leadership that is looking to use them in order to summon a 12th imam coming out of a well somewhere. This is why they are no longer afraid of launching attacks from their own territory. If you nuke them and don't kill all of their nukes they will try to nuke us or our allies in retaliation, WW3 style. A couple of relatively primitive fusion bombs aren’t something to be so afraid of that we tolerate them continuing their program. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:21:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Former11BRAVO: Doesn't the MOP require a large cargo-type plane for delivery? If so, how's that lumbering beast going to get through Iran's air defenses? B-2 carries two. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:24:59 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Former11BRAVO: Doesn't the MOP require a large cargo-type plane for delivery? If so, how's that lumbering beast going to get through Iran's air defenses? B-2 I think it might squeak thru 
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:26:33 PM EDT
[#42]
Needs more cassaba howitzer shaped nuclear charges up in this bitch.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:28:52 PM EDT
[#43]
I prefer the nuclear version, what kind of pussy shit is this?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:29:11 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scratch45: It is the procedure for second wall penetration more than the tool. To be honest, after second wall penetration and release, I have heard it described as "nuclear" Correct. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:32:54 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fulminate: and yet we still manage drop bombs on wedding parties. What if I told you those are accurate hits.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:41:09 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Former11BRAVO: Doesn't the MOP require a large cargo-type plane for delivery? If so, how's that lumbering beast going to get through Iran's air defenses? A B-2 can carry two of them. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:48:32 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scratch45: It is the procedure for second wall penetration more than the tool. To be honest, after second wall penetration and release, I have heard it described as "nuclear" Dude, nice working that in like that.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:50:05 PM EDT
[#48]
There’s different facilities so yes to the older ones but no to the latest recent ones
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AK, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:52:20 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Former11BRAVO: Doesn't the MOP require a large cargo-type plane for delivery? If so, how's that lumbering beast going to get through Iran's air defenses?  B-2 Stealth Bomber drops two GBU-57A/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) bombs |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2024 8:52:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BoneB1B]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoldenMead: A B-2 can carry two of them. Odd, because a B-2 carries 40k pounds of ordnance One MOP weighs 27k |
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