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Posted: 10/15/2006 3:03:43 PM EDT
Yea so I tried to use my flashlight, but noticed the light was dim because at the time i thought the batteries were low. So I set it down and do a few things, come back and the light is sitting there and the rubber push button cap was EXPANDED HUGE!
I knew right away what happened, the batteries failed and a very noxious gas was forming inside the cap, so I snapped a few pictures of the flashlight, put on some leather work gloves held the cap with a channel lock and twisted. It passed the first seal, then the second and then the cap forcibly removed its self and one battery took off about 2'. I felt the pressure on my work glove so it was a good idea there to wear them. Next I shook the flashlight to remove the second battery, set them out and took pictures of the batteries. Now I am not sure what to do... the rubber cap thing is now misshapen and probably lost is waterproof ability. Should I call up pentagon and see what they say? Or should I call Battery station? I bought the batteries off a forum member and Have not had a problem up till now. And the stuff on the lens, its glued on there i tried scraping it off with a credit card but it won't come off. It was not there till after the "explosion" Now on to the pictures        Any advice is appreciated! Thanks |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 3:05:22 PM EDT
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Surefire
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Posted: 10/15/2006 3:07:42 PM EDT
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Call pentagon and see what they say.
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Posted: 10/15/2006 3:08:34 PM EDT
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 Yeah, because a Surefire would have neutralized the gasses of the shitty battery as it exploded. |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 3:08:55 PM EDT
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Heh, well the flashlight held up fine, it managed to hold the pressure created by the battery gases, but the tail cap is kinda deformed and the lens is screwed. Would my best bet be try to call up Battery Station and see if they can replace anything? ETA: Pentagon's site says their life time warranty does not cover battery leakage, but I will still give them a call and see what they suggest too. |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 3:10:56 PM EDT
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Personally, I'd call Battery Station, as they made the product that caused the problem. You wouldn't blame your AR if you bought ammo that caused a kaBoom... Battery Station should be the ones replacing it. |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 3:14:16 PM EDT
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Ghostbusters
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Posted: 10/15/2006 4:18:32 PM EDT
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+1 What Mitchell said.
Why bother the flashlight maker. Esp when they said that they would not warrent batty leaks. And the batteries did leak and I would go back to them about their defective product. |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 4:23:05 PM EDT
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I'd call them both.
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Posted: 10/15/2006 4:33:36 PM EDT
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the tailcap on my X2 died this weekend also...not from a battery leak but just stopped working...
your story is alot more interesting though. |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 4:36:09 PM EDT
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Haven't you been reading about all the LITHIUM batteries failing lately? If it's lithium powered it's now on a cement floor in the house. I'm not trusting them anymore myself til they have a better track record.
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Posted: 10/15/2006 4:42:03 PM EDT
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Especially since breathing the crap can seriously poison you... Im look at MSDS sheets to make sure im fine but may still call the doc in the morn. |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 4:42:15 PM EDT
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hmm, are you sure the battery company doesn't subcontract out to glock?
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Posted: 10/15/2006 4:47:37 PM EDT
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I think this was just a fluke, looking over at Candle Power Forums this has happened a few times and it seems Battery Station is a good company, as they are replacing that guys light along with conducting tests and such.
Ill give a call to three places tomorrow, Doc, pentagon light, and battery station. But please be careful not to judge quickly, this kinda crap happens to the best at some point or anther. |
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Posted: 10/15/2006 5:00:21 PM EDT
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Did you possibly leave the light "on" when you set it down? It can lead to exactly what happened - the batteries exploding if the light gets too hot. A local resident called us one night when his Surefire G2 exploded in much the same manner. He's a cop in another jurisdiction and thought someone booby trapped his light to blow up.
From Surefire's product manuals: 
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Posted: 10/15/2006 5:03:37 PM EDT
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Nope it doesn't have the clicky tail cap, just the momentary one.
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Posted: 10/15/2006 5:07:36 PM EDT
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IIRC a fellow named D. Rumsfield handles the returns on those.Just call up the pentagon and ask for him,he will handle it
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Posted: 10/15/2006 8:27:34 PM EDT
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You didn't happen to put a used battery in there with a new one, did you?
 That will cause this problem with Li cells. |
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Posted: 10/16/2006 3:45:38 AM EDT
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Nope both where brand new cells, from the sound of it one of the cells could have had a lower charge than the other from the factory. Thus when one battery died it would reverse flow and heat it up. When it heats up it vents, i am not sure what it vents but I think its hydrofluoric acid. So far I don't think i inhaled much as there was only enough hydrofluoric acid to fill the flashlight body, and I held it as far away form me as possible wearing work gloves and I was outside. Freaky stuff though as it has a delayed reaction which gets longer the lower amounts one is exposed to. |
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Posted: 10/16/2006 3:54:53 AM EDT
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My wife has a flashlight shaped like that! The damned bulb is always burned out, but she wion't let me throw it out. When I try to turn it on it just make a sound like "hmmmmmmmmmmmm grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr blllllllllllhhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Darn silly womenz. 
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Posted: 10/16/2006 4:03:07 AM EDT
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Dell has experience dealing with this
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Posted: 10/16/2006 4:14:29 AM EDT
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sony 
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Posted: 10/16/2006 4:21:14 AM EDT
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Taggage as I have a bunch of Battery Station CR123's on hand.
Did you post this on candlepowerforums yet? |
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Posted: 10/16/2006 5:05:56 AM EDT
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Been using those batteries for a few years, never a problem.
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Posted: 10/16/2006 6:02:06 AM EDT
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No but I read a 14 page post of a icident worse than mine, which Battery Station was posting/watching
And for good reason from that post in CPF Battery Station batteries go through tough testing especially since the incident of CPU. I wont hesitate to buy them again! |
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Posted: 10/16/2006 6:13:34 AM EDT
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I can't see your pictures through the red x's. Which way did you install your batteries? You install Pentagon batteries in the opposite direction that install Surefire batts. The light will still work with the batteries installed backwards, but you run the risk of battery explosion.
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Posted: 10/16/2006 7:02:39 AM EDT
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Yep, contact the whomever you bought the batteries from. Most battery manufacturers have a warranty that will cover leakage, even the USA ones such as Duracell, Everready, etc etc.
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Posted: 10/16/2006 10:32:25 AM EDT
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Odd the pictures work for me at home and work... Anyways the issue has been resolved thanks to brightflashlights and battery station. And to answer your question, no the batteries were installed correctly. |
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Posted: 10/16/2006 1:41:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/16/2006 1:50:54 PM EDT
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what was the resolution and can you tell what the date code on the batteries is?
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Posted: 10/16/2006 1:57:00 PM EDT
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yowza
glad you're OK. I hope Battery Station takes care of you. I almost bought a pile of those batteries... I bought Pentagonlight batts instead. |
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Posted: 10/16/2006 1:59:43 PM EDT
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The date codes on the batteries are 0505 which after talking to brightflashlights and battery station is a possible bad batch. If anyone has these batteries date marked 0505 i would call up Battery Station and see if he can replace them. |
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Posted: 10/18/2006 7:20:40 PM EDT
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So... what happened? Did they offer to replace the light (or parts) for you? |
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Posted: 10/19/2006 10:27:01 AM EDT
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Yep I was sent a new flashlight and 6 new batteries to replace my remaining defective ones. BrightFlashlights and The Battery Station are first rate guys. |
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Posted: 10/19/2006 1:01:59 PM EDT
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Go to the hospital,
right fucking now and get checked for hydrofluoric acid poisioning. Tell them what has happened and have them check you over thoroughly. If you get a headache anytime soon (like in the next day or two), that is indicative of significant bad mojo exposure. That gas can be absorbed through your skin as well as be inhaled and has nasty, debilitating long-term effects that are often delayed in onset. Handling the light and the batteries without serious impermeable gloves is HIGHLY discouraged. John ETA: Leave all that exposed crap OUTDOORS!!! Or double bag it in air-tight bags (and leave it outdoors). |
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Posted: 10/19/2006 1:05:48 PM EDT
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Go to the doctor, RFN! |
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Posted: 10/19/2006 1:24:26 PM EDT
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Damn a vibrating flashlight... 
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Posted: 10/19/2006 3:56:57 PM EDT
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Its all good, the incident happened Sunday around 5, no headaches, nausea, respiratory issues, and none of it came in contact with my skin. Only once cell vented, and unlike the more serious cases that batteries did not explode which releases the most amount of gas/liquid. Also I was outside and the flashlight was at arms length away from my body while opening. The gases generally incur respiratory issues specifically in the nose where it is absorbed in your blood stream. And if inhaled enough can cause pulmonary edema which I do not have any of the symptoms of that either. |
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Posted: 10/19/2006 4:12:19 PM EDT
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Why would a lithium battery produce hyrdrofluoric acid?
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Posted: 10/19/2006 4:19:28 PM EDT
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Yes they do and I tell you that stuff is nasty! info on HF As far as I know it only produces it when the battery fails. HF doesn't exists till the batteries start to heat up and at that point some chemical reaction takes place. |
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Posted: 10/19/2006 4:31:16 PM EDT
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I know the hazards of Hydrofluoric acid, but why would a lithium ion battery produce HF under heat? Since there is no flourine in a Lithium ion battery, why would it make HF? I could be wrong of course, but I just don't see it. Also, looking at all the applications of the lithium ion battery, inculding its uses in PDAs, the Nintendo Gameboy, and millions of other electrical devices, I would think that a battery that could produce an acid that will eat through glass wouldn't be so popular.... |
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