User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:06:29 AM EDT
Wife's side of the family came over the other day and one of the kids picked it up, turned it on, and BOOM! The thing went Sgt Hulka and "blowed up, Sir." Well, actually the batteries blew up. It was so hot the you could not hold onto it. Blew out both the clear lense and the red filter, but the light bulb was still in one piece. It also made a hell of a stink (as in it really smelled bad) Anyway, here are the pics, for what it's worth.
   
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:10:01 AM EDT
[#1]
I'd notify the company; you'll probably get a new light out of the deal.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:10:18 AM EDT
[#2]
 Wow. Did it happen as soon as it was turned on?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:10:57 AM EDT
[#3]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:12:33 AM EDT
[#4]
email them and let us know the outcome
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:20:22 AM EDT
[#5]
We recently had surefire light catch fire mounted to an AR and surefire advised that cheap litium batteries were the cause. They replaced the light, but warned against using batteries other than known name brand. I don't know all the specifics, but it had something to do with the batteries discharging at unequal rates and recharging each other when the light is off. Surefire said the higher quality batteries have a circuit of some sort that prevents them from recharging each other.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:21:59 AM EDT
[#6]
Hmm. Must have an "unsupported chamber".
Glad no one was hurt though. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:22:49 AM EDT
[#7]
Now that is interesting. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:23:37 AM EDT
[#8]
Oh shit NOT another "KABOOMED" thread. Were you using reloads????
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:24:07 AM EDT
[#9]
What brand batteries were those?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:25:35 AM EDT
[#10]
I saw a Streamlight M6light/laser combo blow up at a gun store once, caught fire and everything
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:26:44 AM EDT
[#11]
It's called cell reversal. I'd be surprised if the quality batteries actually had diodes or any other circuitry, I think it's just a matter of them having less variation in potential and internal resistance. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:26:49 AM EDT
[#12]
Exactly. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:28:03 AM EDT
[#13]
sony? 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:30:05 AM EDT
[#14]
Wow, that is strange.
I had my surefire on for about an hour last night while I was drilling some holes. I noticed that it got damn hot and wondered if it could get hot enough to start a fire or melt something. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:30:07 AM EDT
[#15]
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:54:05 AM EDT
[#16]
Yep - thermal runaway in LiIon batteries will do that.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 5:55:20 AM EDT
[#17]
dam
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 6:43:20 AM EDT
[#18]
There are no markings on the batteries other than "Lithium Battery", "+ CR 123A" and "3.0V" I got the batteries at the same time/place as the light. Always worked okay before, but not that last time. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 6:45:30 AM EDT
[#19]
So I've got potential fire bombs all over my house?? Next we will be warned not to keep flashlights loaded!! I see a new law. Easily accessible explosive flashlights are the problem.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 6:46:33 AM EDT
[#20]
I only use Surefire lithium batteries, I can't remember who actually makes them. Anyway, I've considered buying some cheap ones in bulk, but maybe I just changed my mind. Call Streamlight, they will give you a new light, I'd almost bet ya.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 6:49:35 AM EDT
[#21]
I have the exact same light on my night stand and the wife has a TL-2 on hers. Call 'em up and see what they say. I'm very curious to see what happens. Tell 'em it did that when your child picked up it. That should milk the guilt cow.
 J |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 6:50:39 AM EDT
[#22]
Lithium batteries are amazing. What other batteries double as bombs?
Any high power density battery has the potential to create hazards. When so much energy is released in a short time in a small package, things are going to happen. I would never buy an aftermarket lithium battery. A poorly engineered or manufactured lithium battery may explode. CJ |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 6:50:45 AM EDT
[#23]
Yup, gotta ban those assault flashlights... for the children! 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 6:57:14 AM EDT
[#24]
Yikes - two in one week...
Anyone had problems with Pentagonlight batts? I have a few dozen of those and SureFire brand batts. I will not buy off branders ever now that I've read these reports. Glad the kid is OK (sounds like it anyway). edit: I think I am going to move my batteries out into the garage or something ... yikes. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 7:01:51 AM EDT
[#25]
Lithium-Ion batteries have some peculiar qualities, among them are (this is from memory, so if I screw up...): - a limited lifespan, somewhere in the timespan of 2 to 3 years. After that the potential for exploding goes up. The cheap Li-Ion batteries are generally older ones without a lot of life left in them. - might explode if you overcharge them or if you store them long-term with a full charge. - might explode if you store them with a low charge. - liked to be stored in a mid-charged state. - Don't like to be kept topped off, it is better to run them down and then recharge them. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 7:06:39 AM EDT
[#26]
I doubt its the flashlight's fault. Its most likely the batteries.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 7:07:55 AM EDT
[#27]
This is probably true. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 7:24:52 AM EDT
[#28]
Shit batteries...get some CR123's from batterystation.com with your candlepowerforums.com discount. They're like $1 each. Post this over on CPF forums as well.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 7:36:29 AM EDT
[#29]
 I am not able to but I really wish sombody would photoshop "GLOCK" onto the side of that light or the batteries. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 7:57:24 AM EDT
[#30]
i was gonna ask if it had been hanging around a glock or something like that, but you beat me to it |
||
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 8:03:42 AM EDT
[#31]
Quality lithium batteries have a protection circuit. The cheap Chinese imports usually do not. Check out candlepowerforums.com for lots of good info.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 8:21:58 AM EDT
[#32]
- Can become annoyed with small children or house pets - Do not use if batteries appear moody or emotional - Do not tease or taunt Lithium batteries |
||
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 8:35:54 AM EDT
[#33]
"Ha ha" - Nelson!
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 8:58:06 AM EDT
[#34]
I have a lithium ion battery in my Powerbook. At 4 years old it still looks like a new battery when I run a battery diagnostic on it. It's not run down very often as it's mostly on the desktop with an AC adaptor. Sony and Apple had massive recalls of LiOn batteries.
I use Surefire for the 123's and Brand names for other Lithiums. The AA Energizer Lithiums are good for camera flash but of course, aren't rechargeable. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 9:02:08 AM EDT
[#35]
Never had a problem with the lithium battery in my laptop, digi cam, or anything else!
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 9:19:00 AM EDT
[#36]
What could be wrong with the light? Think about it -- they pretty much either work, or they don't.
Some battery comnpanies offer to replace the light if damaged by their batteries, so just send it to the no-name battery company in, uh, probably somewhere in China. Yeah, that should work. The only light defect that could have caused this would be if the flashlight has a charging circuit that went bad. You didn't use the non-rechargeable 123's in a light designed for 123R's, did you? And is "04-05" an expiration date? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 9:21:58 AM EDT
[#37]
Where is the ATF arbitrary opinion that they are destructive devices?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/18/2006 9:35:30 AM EDT
[#38]
Man, screw it. I just use those 3AAA Dorcy LED lights from Walmart. I've read too many things about 123 batteries exploding in people's flashlights.
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
