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Posted: 8/13/2007 8:46:12 PM EDT
www.knbc.com/news/13884052/detail.html

LOS ANGELES -- Self-proclaimed pedophile Jack McClellan was arrested Monday by UCLA police after being spotted with a camera near the offices of a program studying children from three months to three years of age, authorities said.

McClellan, 45, was taken into custody at 1:40 p.m. for violating a restraining order banning him from coming within 30 feet of anyone under 18 anywhere in California, according to a statement posted on the UCLA Web site.


Officers were called to the Infant Development Program at UCLA's Franz Hall after McClellan was observed in the area in possession of a camera.

The court order required him not to loiter or congregate within 10 yards of children. He was arrested without incident.

As of 7 p.m., McClellan was still being interviewed. He was due to be released on his own recognizance before 9 p.m., said UCLA's Claudia Luther.

McClellan is scheduled to appear in court on Sept. 13. He was also given a stay away order from UCLA.

Local police agencies including the Los Angeles School Police Department were advised of what had happened.

McClellan had not been arrested for suspicion of any sex crimes, but spoke about how he found prepubescent girls more appealing than women.

His Web site directed viewers to places they could watch girls.

McClellan had told police Thursday he had been escorted to an American Airlines flight to Chicago at Los Angeles International Airport. McClellan said he was fleeing the state because of threats against him by people who had seen his picture on television, in newspapers or on the Internet.

"I don't think there is anywhere I can go" in California, he complained.

McClellan said his car which has Washington license plates was causing him to be recognized and threatened.

McClellan said he was driven from Washington state by activists and bloggers. A similar effort in Los Angeles followed his movements.

This sicko just won't stop doing it. I hope he ends up in jail for some reason where he can really appreciate how perverted he is.

What's more disturbing is that he did this in broad day light in the middle of campus. There is a kindergarten NW of campus. Wonder if he knew about it.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:48:25 PM EDT
[#1]


problem solved.  
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 8:57:17 PM EDT
[#2]
They are releasing him on RO?  That's messed up.  The guy lives in his car, has no job and no permanent address.  What could be more of a flight risk?

They should at least make him post bail.
Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:01:50 PM EDT
[#3]
And what law did he break again?


Link Posted: 8/13/2007 9:10:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Now lynch 'em.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 1:01:13 AM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 1:14:50 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
And what law did he break again?




Breathing within five million miles of me.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 1:15:54 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
And what law did he break again?





violating a restraining order banning him from coming within 30 feet of anyone under 18 anywhere in California


The court order required him not to loiter or congregate within 10 yards of children

Reading comprehension is key.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 1:43:43 AM EDT
[#8]
The restraining order was issued without him ever breaking any law that anyone knows of. the terms of the order are so restrictive its unlikely he could possibly go about his life without repeatedly breaking the order. I'm surprised it took this long. Hell if he drives his car and there is a mini van in the next lane over at a stop light he's violating the restraining order.

Link Posted: 8/14/2007 2:19:39 AM EDT
[#9]

    I've heard about this individual at my local am talk show Rick Roberts KFMB 760.  During Rick Roberts interview, you can tell this guy is not going to stop what he's doing.  He's just plain sick .  It's time for a winnie roast for the SOB!    
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 2:21:18 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And what law did he break again?





violating a restraining order banning him from coming within 30 feet of anyone under 18 anywhere in California


The court order required him not to loiter or congregate within 10 yards of children

Reading comprehension is key.




OK, primate, maybe I should have drawn a more vivid picture.

He didn't violate any law.

The same thought processes which can ban THINKING about screwing little kids, can be used to ban THINKING about using guns.


I'm going to pass out in a drunken stupor now, but I'm sure if you roll it around your skull a few dozen times, you can establish the difference between thinking or talking about something, and doing something.

If this creep can get hammered for talking about pedophilia, we can get popped for talking about "voting from the rooftops".
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 2:30:06 AM EDT
[#11]
I don't like pedophiles.  But I also don't like laws that are impossible to obey.

A RO saying he can't get within 30 feet of anyone under 18?

What if he is at walmart and a kid is on the other side of the shelves and he doesn't know?

At a red light and a child is in the car next to him?

He is at the doctor and in the room next to him there is a teenager?


I could go on.....

Link Posted: 8/14/2007 2:38:51 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I don't like pedophiles.  But I also don't like laws that are impossible to obey.

The RO was obviously aimed at forcing him to leave California...or become homebound.

Of course, this fuck is not doing himself any favors by showing up places with a camera.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 2:44:23 AM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 2:52:55 AM EDT
[#14]
This pedophile tax leech (medically depressed?) should be put out of our misery.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 9:35:49 AM EDT
[#15]
Arrested for the second time

In the second incident, McClellan returned to the UCLA campus to give a live interview to KTLA.

After the live interview, McClellan stayed to give a taped version, according to KTLA. Someone apparently saw the live broadcast and called authorities, the station reported.

McClellan was taken into custody for the second time around 10:20 p.m., because he was told not to return to campus after the initial incident, said an officer with the UCLA Police Department.

He was being held at the department's police station, the officers said.

Obviously trying to pull something here. Keep it up sicko. You are walking a dangerous path
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 9:39:17 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Arrested for the second time

In the second incident, McClellan returned to the UCLA campus to give a live interview to KTLA.

After the live interview, McClellan stayed to give a taped version, according to KTLA. Someone apparently saw the live broadcast and called authorities, the station reported.

McClellan was taken into custody for the second time around 10:20 p.m., because he was told not to return to campus after the initial incident, said an officer with the UCLA Police Department.

He was being held at the department's police station, the officers said.

Obviously trying to pull something here. Keep it up sicko. You are walking a dangerous path


My guess is he is doing this as lawsuit bait, and the ACLU (or some ambulance chaser) will be right there to back him (especially if he gets "roughed up" at all)

Link Posted: 8/14/2007 9:42:39 AM EDT
[#17]
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 9:56:39 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Normally a restraining order stems out of previous arrest or at least there must be some previous court proceeding. Has this guy been arrested before?


Is telling a pedofile where to find little girls the same as telling someone where to find drugs?  Is either a crime?

I would guess he was previously arrested for tresspassing as he keeps going to places to film kids.  Sometimes these are private places like the UCLA.

The RO is obviously unconstitutional, but he has said on TV that he would have sex if the child wanted to.  Isn’t that intent or conspiracy to commit a crime?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:02:01 AM EDT
[#19]
i do have one good thing to say about iran, china, saudi arabia etc.  

they wouldn't put up with this shit.  
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:02:06 AM EDT
[#20]





Quoted:

Quoted:
And what law did he break again?





violating a restraining order banning him from coming within 30 feet of anyone under 18 anywhere in California


The court order required him not to loiter or congregate within 10 yards of children

Reading comprehension is key.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:02:37 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
..
Obviously trying to pull something here. Keep it up sicko. You are walking a dangerous path


Not in California.  I'm surprised SF has given him a key to their city and welcomed him there.


I assure you he is walking a dangerous path.

Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:03:28 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:


OK, primate, maybe I should have drawn a more vivid picture.

He didn't violate any law.

The same thought processes which can ban THINKING about screwing little kids, can be used to ban THINKING about using guns.


Uh, sure . . . except that screwing little kids is very illegal, while using guns is not.

Good comparision, troll.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:03:29 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Normally a restraining order stems out of previous arrest or at least there must be some previous court proceeding. Has this guy been arrested before?


Is telling a pedofile where to find little girls the same as telling someone where to find drugs?  Is either a crime?

I would guess he was previously arrested for tresspassing as he keeps going to places to film kids.  Sometimes these are private places like the UCLA.

The RO is obviously unconstitutional, but he has said on TV that he would have sex if the child wanted to.  Isn’t that intent or conspiracy to commit a crime?


I think that would be like me saying I would build a F/A if I knew how. Or a can if I knew how.
Just take everything this guy is doing and relate it back to guns and you will see the BIG picture.
I am thinking this guy will be found in a dumpster from some father or whatever.

No, I would not do either of what I said just for the record
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:13:58 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:
I don't like pedophiles.  But I also don't like laws that are impossible to obey.

A RO saying he can't get within 30 feet of anyone under 18?

What if he is at walmart and a kid is on the other side of the shelves and he doesn't know?

At a red light and a child is in the car next to him?

He is at the doctor and in the room next to him there is a teenager?


I could go on.....



The scary thing is that at some point gunowners will be treated the same way....
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:14:50 AM EDT
[#25]
Any one who thinks having sex with a kid could or would be fun  should be shot.  We let people like this on TV and we wounder why the world  is all F  up.  If your worried about the RO let him come hang out at your house or around one of your schools.  He is only thinking about it right.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:15:37 AM EDT
[#26]
The ACLU will be on this like flies on shit.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:18:24 AM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
The ACLU will be on this like flies on shit.


On whose side?


In a parallel case involving somebody with guns, I highly doubt they'd defend a gunowner.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:18:41 AM EDT
[#28]

Or it could be like saying you would have someone killed as soon as you could find a hit man you would hire. The guy is trying to get attention for some reason. Hope this isn't a test case to get raping kids made eventually legal.

 
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:20:53 AM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Normally a restraining order stems out of previous arrest or at least there must be some previous court proceeding. Has this guy been arrested before?


Is telling a pedofile where to find little girls the same as telling someone where to find drugs?  Is either a crime?

I would guess he was previously arrested for tresspassing as he keeps going to places to film kids.  Sometimes these are private places like the UCLA.
The RO is obviously unconstitutional, but he has said on TV that he would have sex if the child wanted to.  Isn’t that intent or conspiracy to commit a crime?



UCLA is public property.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:21:44 AM EDT
[#30]
Damn JBT's!



Maybe next time he will resist.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:21:59 AM EDT
[#31]
Rehabilitation through reincarnation should be tested on him.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:24:52 AM EDT
[#32]
I would have loved to see those guys smack his head into the door.

Video of Arrest
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:26:45 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
Damn JBT's!



Maybe next time he will resist.


My guess is he is looking for a beating as a route to a quick payday. The guy has already been on TV, the whole thing reeks as a set-up.

My only thoughts on him is CA is right next to a big ocean with plenty of hungry fish...

I'm just sayin...
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:49:54 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
The RO is obviously unconstitutional, but he has said on TV that he would have sex if the child wanted to.  Isn’t that intent or conspiracy to commit a crime?


You cannot conspire with yourself so there is no conspiracy charge.  Now if someone got arrested and admitted that they used his site and talked to him about the best way to do horrible things to little children, then you may get a conspiracy charge.  If they just use his website, even that probably won't be enough.

Intent is not enough to hold someone criminally liable.  If he acts upon this intent then he has done something wrong but just saying something is not enough (unless it is a threat).  And to answer a potential question, I don't think that you can charge him with any threats for what he has done.  Threats are aimed at a specific person so unless he actually identified a girl and said that he intends to do something to her, you cannot get him for a threat to a broad class of people.


I think that this guy is an inhuman creep and I am not defending his actions in any sense.  However, legally (IMO) he is getting screwed.  I don't think that there is a valid grounds for the restraining order in this case since he had not done anything illegal before it was issued and there is no way that he can comploy with this order.  The arrests in this case all stem from violations of the restraining order, he had never been convicted of anything prior to this to the best of my recollection (and he still has not been convicted of these charges).  Without any specific illegal actions or particularized threats, I don't think that a restraining order should have been issued.  

This guy is complete scum, but if we allow the courts to start bending the rules to gain desired results for undesirable people, what is to stop them from bending the rules and putting a restraining order on anyone they feel like.  The Constitution protects the lowest denominator of people in this country the same as it protects everyone else.  
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 10:58:50 AM EDT
[#35]
What no anti police JBT comments?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 11:16:15 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:

Quoted:


OK, primate, maybe I should have drawn a more vivid picture.

He didn't violate any law.

The same thought processes which can ban THINKING about screwing little kids, can be used to ban THINKING about using guns.


Uh, sure . . . except that screwing little kids is very illegal, while using guns is not.

Good comparision, troll.


But "voting from the rooftops " Isn't legal, yet it gets a fair amount of airtime here. Ask yourself do you REALLY want thought police?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 11:41:39 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
UCLA is public property.


Actually most college campuses are private property allowing only those who have legitimate business with the university to be on the premisis of most buildings, except for truly public facilities like libraries.

As such, campus police can remove someone who isn't associated with the university from most areas of the campus.

As to the restraining order, I don't see how it can possibly withstand the inevitable ACLU court challenge. While the intent behind it is good, the legal basis for it is pretty darn shaky...his case certainly isn't helped by showing up where there are kids congregating and taking photos. A judge would probably rather be overturned than let this a$$hole get away with something....

That said, the best thing that could happen in this situation is for the guy to turn up floating face down in a river somewhere.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 11:43:16 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:


OK, primate, maybe I should have drawn a more vivid picture.

He didn't violate any law.

The same thought processes which can ban THINKING about screwing little kids, can be used to ban THINKING about using guns.


Uh, sure . . . except that screwing little kids is very illegal, while using guns is not.

Good comparision, troll.


But "voting from the rooftops " Isn't legal, yet it gets a fair amount of airtime here. Ask yourself do you REALLY want thought police?


but he's doing more than just THINKING , he's actually STALKING.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 11:58:31 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:


OK, primate, maybe I should have drawn a more vivid picture.

He didn't violate any law.

The same thought processes which can ban THINKING about screwing little kids, can be used to ban THINKING about using guns.


Uh, sure . . . except that screwing little kids is very illegal, while using guns is not.

Good comparision, troll.


But "voting from the rooftops " Isn't legal, yet it gets a fair amount of airtime here. Ask yourself do you REALLY want thought police?


but he's doing more than just THINKING , he's actually STALKING.



I think for stalking you need a specific victim , not just "people"

I also notice you failed to answer my question. Do you REALLY want thought police?
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 12:01:33 PM EDT
[#40]
"I'll never say never...."

When asked if he would have sex with a child.

Link Posted: 8/14/2007 12:04:03 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:


OK, primate, maybe I should have drawn a more vivid picture.

He didn't violate any law.

The same thought processes which can ban THINKING about screwing little kids, can be used to ban THINKING about using guns.


Uh, sure . . . except that screwing little kids is very illegal, while using guns is not.

Good comparision, troll.


But "voting from the rooftops " Isn't legal, yet it gets a fair amount of airtime here. Ask yourself do you REALLY want thought police?


but he's doing more than just THINKING , he's actually STALKING.



I think for stalking you need a specific victim , not just "people"

I also notice you failed to answer my question. Do you REALLY want thought police?


I think so as well.  As detestable as this prick is, I don't think that he has actually broken any laws (other than violating the restraining order and no trespassing order).  I don't think that this would qualify as stalking if he is just hanging out there taking pictures of everyone.  If he is following around one person and taking pictures of them it is stalking.  Just standing in one place and watching people go by is not.  Think of this like he were in a park.  If he is following around one family that could be stalking.  If he is sitting near the enterance of the park just watching people go in and out that is not stalking.

This prick seems to know the law very well and at least seems to have a good idea of what he can and cannot do.  I just hope that he slips up and gets arrested and convicted of something before he can hurt any of these girls.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 12:08:16 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
"I'll never say never...."

When asked if he would have sex with a child.



No one is saying that this guy is not scum.  However, statements like the one above are not legally enough to arrest him for anything (IMO), and it is a slippery slope if you start bending the law to get a desirable result for an undesirable person.

Arresting him based upon his thoughts when he has not actually done anything illegal really does start to bring about thought police and the possibility that people could be arrested because they think the wrong way even if they have not actually done anything wrong.

This guy is scum, but until he does something illegal the courts and the police cannot do anything to him.  As undesirable as this is, it is better than allowing rules to be broken and the Constitution to be disregarded.  
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 1:41:45 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
The Constitution protects the lowest denominator of people in this country the same as it
protects everyone else.  

Quoted for truth.
Link Posted: 8/14/2007 1:49:54 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
I think so as well.  As detestable as this prick is, I don't think that he has actually broken any laws (other than violating the restraining order and no trespassing order).  I don't think that this would qualify as stalking if he is just hanging out there taking pictures of everyone.  If he is following around one person and taking pictures of them it is stalking.  Just standing in one place and watching people go by is not.  Think of this like he were in a park.  If he is following around one family that could be stalking.  If he is sitting near the enterance of the park just watching people go in and out that is not stalking.

This prick seems to know the law very well and at least seems to have a good idea of what he can and cannot do.  I just hope that he slips up and gets arrested and convicted of something before he can hurt any of these girls.


He has already taken pictures of other people's children and put them on a pedophile site. That's more than just sitting on a park bench and watching the kiddies play.

At the very least, the childrens' right to privacy has been violated. In addition, he is placing them at risk by posting their images on a site for other perverts.

Link Posted: 8/15/2007 12:10:40 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
Normally a restraining order stems out of previous arrest or at least there must be some previous court proceeding. Has this guy been arrested before?


NO, Until yesterday at UCLA in violation of the restraining order and then for Trespassing (Forgive us our trespasses as???) for returning to the campus.

As noted this guy is in trouble for thinking and posting about little girls, not for any illegal acts.  Like us we talk and participate in legal acts that some people think are counterproductive and socially unacceptable, but even though not criminal should be banned and hounded from the state.

You slippery slope guys should be getting real excited about this one.  IMHO the restraining order was made ridiculously broad in order to get judicially reviewed just to find out what the law allows.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 12:13:05 AM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:


OK, primate, maybe I should have drawn a more vivid picture.

He didn't violate any law.

The same thought processes which can ban THINKING about screwing little kids, can be used to ban THINKING about using guns.


Uh, sure . . . except that screwing little kids is very illegal, while using guns is not.

Good comparision, troll.


Except that he has never been accused of let alone convicted of any criminal activity.  What part of that didn't you understand.  No ARRESTS, NO CONVICTIONS, NO ACCUSATIONS.  I guess reading comprehension isn't needed, I sure hope you like the gun banners because you sure think like them.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 12:14:51 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Damn JBT's!



Maybe next time he will resist.


My guess is he is looking for a beating as a route to a quick payday. The guy has already been on TV, the whole thing reeks as a set-up.

My only thoughts on him is CA is right next to a big ocean with plenty of hungry fish...

I'm just sayin...


And that is less than what he did.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 12:17:36 AM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I think so as well.  As detestable as this prick is, I don't think that he has actually broken any laws (other than violating the restraining order and no trespassing order).  I don't think that this would qualify as stalking if he is just hanging out there taking pictures of everyone.  If he is following around one person and taking pictures of them it is stalking.  Just standing in one place and watching people go by is not.  Think of this like he were in a park.  If he is following around one family that could be stalking.  If he is sitting near the enterance of the park just watching people go in and out that is not stalking.

This prick seems to know the law very well and at least seems to have a good idea of what he can and cannot do.  I just hope that he slips up and gets arrested and convicted of something before he can hurt any of these girls.


He has already taken pictures of other people's children and put them on a pedophile site. That's more than just sitting on a park bench and watching the kiddies play.

At the very least, the childrens' right to privacy has been violated. In addition, he is placing them at risk by posting their images on a site for other perverts.



Right to privacy, isn't that the basis for Roe vs Wade?  Can you show me in a quote from the Constitution where there is a right to privacy, especially when in a public place?
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 12:24:43 AM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:


OK, primate, maybe I should have drawn a more vivid picture.

He didn't violate any law.

The same thought processes which can ban THINKING about screwing little kids, can be used to ban THINKING about using guns.


Uh, sure . . . except that screwing little kids is very illegal, while using guns is not.

Good comparision, troll.


And has he screwed any children?

This guy may be scummy, but this restraining order is unconstitutional, and it's going to be shot down when challenged.

I figured a group of gun owners would recognize this "for the chilluns" knee-jerk reaction, rather than jump aboard the bandwagon.

Disclaimer for those who'll knee-jerk to the above: this is not a condoning of the sick things this guy has done, but unless he's been convicted, has attempted to have sex with a child, or something else very similar, this is an unconstitutional RO.
Link Posted: 8/15/2007 12:44:14 AM EDT
[#50]
Claw hammer to the scrot. Problem solved.
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