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Posted: 10/5/2007 9:52:09 PM EDT
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Fuck that im voting for Ron Paul no matter what
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Posted: 10/5/2007 9:54:56 PM EDT
[#2]
Fixed for you. It's that mindset that will lead us into the next Dark Ages.  CJ |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 9:56:32 PM EDT
[#3]
Fred Thompson FTW!
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Posted: 10/5/2007 9:57:33 PM EDT
[#4]
So, you want me to vote for the slow train to a socialist utopia? No thanks.
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:09:49 PM EDT
[#5]
What is FTW? |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:11:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Write in for Ron Paul.
If it's between Ghouianni and the Clintonistas I would rather vote a third or write someone in. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:11:26 PM EDT
[#7]
Amen. Has anybody noticed how the communist liberal media is ignoring Fred? I even saw a piece on ABC, done damn near glowingly, about Ron Paul. This is their way of hoping to sway votes away from a real candidate. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:11:26 PM EDT
[#8]
Fuck that whore. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:12:34 PM EDT
[#9]
For The Win, I guess.
Vote for the guy who has a chance to win. Not the LONG SHOT. The nominee after the convention. BELIEVE ME, if you don't do that, you WILL be voting for Clinton or Obama in every way that matters. I'm really afraid that there will be enough people who will commit an act of DETERMINED STUPIDITY and vote for someone other than the nominee whomever that might be. And those people need their asses kicked so hard they can't make it to the polls to vote.
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:13:10 PM EDT
[#10]
'For The Win'. Its one of those intarwebz memes, now being replaced by 'Fail!' or 'Win!'. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:14:27 PM EDT
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Stupid people on a gun board hoping we all vote for Ghouliani. Take that trash elsewhere.
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:14:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Primaries: Paul
General: (R) unless it's Rudy. Rudy can kiss my fucking ass. I'll vote for Hillary before I vote for that worthless piece of shit. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:15:53 PM EDT
[#13]
Maybe it's just the rum talking, but that doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense to me. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:18:25 PM EDT
[#14]
Cliff's notes: "Vote your conscience, but don't." |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:19:32 PM EDT
[#15]
Give it up, you'll never convince the Paul guys to do anything other than stay home or write Paul's name in. Might as well get on MoveOn's website and preach the gospel of conservatism, or the Brady site and preach the joys of gun ownership, you'll have just as good a chance of succeeding....probably better. They're more than willing to go into 8 years of Clinton/Obama, happy with the knowledge that they did the right thing.
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:20:37 PM EDT
[#16]
I agree totally. Stupid is voting for someone based only on party name - and those "Someones" continually stab you in the back.
Now that's real stupidity........ |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:22:12 PM EDT
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Vote Rudy? = I'd rather jog home from a vasectomy. Sarcasm my friend, but seriously, I WILL write in my vote for Paul if Rudy gets the Nomination. Otherwise it' the (R) next to the name.  As much as it saddens me to do it. *sigh*, maybe in 2012 I'll get to vote for someone I WANT to win.  |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:23:47 PM EDT
[#18]
My uncle rode his harley home after his vasectomy
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:24:47 PM EDT
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Cmjohnson is right. We've never had a 3rd party candidate win a Presidential election in recent history, which may as well be ever as far as I am concerned. Vote for a guy who can win.
As much as I wish sometimes that a true conservative 3rd party candidate could win, I know it's not going to happen because the 3rd parties do not have the kind of resources that the Democrats and Republicans have. One big problem with elections in this country is that we are forced to choose the lesser of two evils, though I feel pretty good about voting for Thompson. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:25:52 PM EDT
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Revised and corrected version: "Vote your conscience, the first time you vote, but don't fuck everyone else in the ass by voting for someone who doesn't get the nomination, the second time you vote!" CJ |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:26:00 PM EDT
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Of course you realize that your asking stupid people to understand this simple logic. It seems that your explaination has already sailed clear over more than a few heads.
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:26:16 PM EDT
[#22]
Fixed your error. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:27:10 PM EDT
[#23]
Remember, Republicans vote on Tuesday, Democrats vote on Wednesday... (best joke ever). 
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:29:30 PM EDT
[#24]
From what I gathered on this site, theres only like 9 people that like Ron paul, and most of them are crazy left wing moveon.org whackos. That means Fred doesn't get what, 4 votes? If he is so irrelevant, why do people spend so much time trying to convince his measly 1% to vote for someone else? |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:37:14 PM EDT
[#25]
In the Primary I intend to vote for Fred Thomson.
If that gun grabbing abortionist piece of shit Giuliani wins the Republican nomination I will be voting 3rd party. The only thing worse then some POS politician coming for my guns is some POS that I voted for. If Giuliani is the best the GOP can deliver then it's time for me to kiss the GOP goodbye, because they will no longer be the party for me. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:37:35 PM EDT
[#26]
Let me be honest with you: I LIKE Ron Paul. I'm glad he's actually running this time around.
I think he's an honest man. I KNOW he's a strict Constitutionalist and as the Constitution is the basis of all of our most cherished freedoms, I know he's our best running supporter of our freedoms. I generally agree with his positions and policies. He's honest enough to vote against a bill that would benefit US but is still a technical violation of the Constitution. And he's done so in the past. I really respect that level of INTEGRITY and HONESTY. And I wouldn't mind seeing US policy shift a little toward a more isolationist position, quite frankly. I believe that the US should restrict its international affairs strictly to business with everyone and military assistance to our ALLIES who ASK for it. And... NO FOREIGN AID. That money is better spent here at home. I MIGHT vote for him in the primaries. But he will NOT get my vote if he doesn't win the nomination. I will vote only for the winner of the Republican nomination as that person will in FACT be the ONLY viable candidate. MOST Republicans will ONLY vote for the nominee. This fact alone means that if you do not want Hillary or Obama to become our next President (and either of them would be a monumental disaster for this country, make NO mistake about that) then you too will vote only for the nominee even if he's not your personal favorite or mine either. And if that nominee turned out to be Rudy, hell, YES, I'd vote for him! He may be the worst Republican running but he'd STILL be far better for this country than either Hillary OR Obama, and you damned well would know that if you were paying attention! CJ |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:38:09 PM EDT
[#27]
Oh no you dint! |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:38:51 PM EDT
[#28]
Telling us who we should vote for...makes you sound just like the neocons that the Paul -R and third party supporters dislike....which is why they are voting for Paul, third parties, FYI. Maybe we vote 3rd party because a few of us won't vote for your sick fucking club known as bipartisan politics which is destroying our nation. Just today I had to help other office workers remove graffiti courtesy of some illegal aliens who obviously love Mexico, but for some reason remain here. The Dems and Republicans have both sold out the voters on the illegal immigration issue. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:40:24 PM EDT
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I plan on voting for Fred Thompson in the primary. BUT, if Giuliani is the Republican nominee...I plan on sitting the '08 election out. I REFUSE to vote for someone who is a RINO. The guy has flip-flopped on key issues enough for me not to trust him at all. I might hold my nose and vote for Mitt Romney, but Rudy can bite my "dyed-in-the-wool" Conservative ass. There'll be a snowball fight in Hell before I'd vote for him. If the Dems win in '08, a large part of that will be because the Republicans had the chance to do some truly great things...and squandered the chance by not living up to the Conservative principles they ran on. WTF happened to the Republican/Conservative ideal of smaller government? And don't even get me started on the illegal immigrant/border control issue...that situation is a disgrace and a clear and present danger to national security. Yet the Republicans haven't done a damn thing about it. We're being fucking invaded and nobdy in D.C. gives a shit. When the Republicans get their collective asses handed to them in '08, they won't have anyone to blame but themselves. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:41:57 PM EDT
[#30]
"We must all hang together or we most assuredly shall hang separately."
Name that quote. If you don't GET IT yet about VOTING IN SOLIDARITY TO ENSURE A NON-DEMOCRAT WINS, then maybe you're just not bright enough to EVER get it. In which case I suggest you stay home on election day and let the SMART ones do all the voting instead. I swear, it'd be fantastic if you had to pass an IQ test (with a reasonable minimum passing score) before people are allowed to vote. CJ |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:42:57 PM EDT
[#31]
I think we are on the same page here man, I really just dont think I can vote for Rudy, I mean I really hate that guy. I am just SICK of voting for these worthless fuckers, I really had high hopes for Bush and he has been a complete disaster. I dont think my conscience will allow me to vote Rudy, maybe we need a few years of Hillary to wake people up. Worked for France.
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:44:07 PM EDT
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If Giuliani or some other RINO liberal asshat wins the primary, I might be so pissed off and dismayed that I'd say screw it and sit the rest of the election out. If that happened, then it would become clear that nobody in this country truly represents me and that the electoral process is broken beyond repair.
I wouldn't necessarily feel bad if Ron Paul were to win the primary or otherwise get himself into an electable position, and I'd vote for him against a Democrat, but I don't think he could win against a "mainstream" Democrat. The only candidate who supports views close to mine AND is electable is Fred Thompson. There is no substitute. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:46:05 PM EDT
[#33]
Hell yeah, I did. And I will. Fuckers need to earn my vote. I really don't see any difference between Hillary and Rudy with regards to gun control or abortion or border control anyway. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:47:06 PM EDT
[#34]
My feelings exactly. Bush started out like a contender, and ended up being a bum. Starting shortly after we went into Iraq and the ground war was over, I could draw a simple graph of my personal approval rating of Bush. At that date, start the line at the 100 percent point. Now move to today's date and put the line at the zero point. Draw a straight line between those two points and that's my approval graph for Bush. Straight downhill, all the way to nothing. He's wrong on damned near everything. Much as I hate to say it, Bill Clinton would have made more decisions in the RIGHT direction. CJ |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:51:17 PM EDT
[#35]
Thats no shit. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 10:55:54 PM EDT
[#36]
There is no difference between dems and reps anyhow, either party is going to screw us big time. It's time for something different, RP is it. Of coarse he isn't getting the republican nom. but how soon we forget, once upon a time, the republican party was a third party as well.
Quit thinking Math and do whats right for once, I'm sick of voting for the lesser of two evils myself. If clinton/obama end up starting a civil war so be it.I ain't getting sold out again, and thats what the republican party does, they sell your soul for a higher profit margin for big business.The democrats want to finish the enslavement the republicans started.WE LOOSE EITHER WAY. there is no other fact. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:01:53 PM EDT
[#37]
Maybe if the Republicans lose another election to a third party they will pull their heads out of their asses and reform their platform to gain those votes.
If everyone votes R for no other reason than it's not D nothing will ever change. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:03:16 PM EDT
[#38]
My thoughts exactly. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:06:41 PM EDT
[#39]
For the record, I have an IQ of 133...so I'll assume you're not talking about me. I'm about as Conservative Republican as you'll find...so I'll be damned before I vote for Rudy fucking Giuliani...if it means Hillary wins, so be it. I am singularly unimpressed with all of the Republican candidates except for Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee. As I stated in my previous post, I plan on voting for Fred Thompson in the primary. I will then vote for whoever the Republican nominee is EXCEPT Giuliani. If Giuliani is the nominee, then I sit this election out. Rudy is no better than Hillary when it comes to the issues I care most about...so I won't vote for him. It's that simple. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:08:17 PM EDT
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That's the point. Republicans vote against Democrats. Democrats vote against Republicans. Does anyone actually like who they vote for? The American electoral system is a complete failure and the number of Americans that vote is a clear indication of that. It really doesnt matter who you vote for. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:09:54 PM EDT
[#41]
The truth as I see it is that most people are closer to the middle, while both parties have radicalized their platforms and are far left or far right. Neither of them really speaks for you and me very much anymore. Anyone that does is rejected by the rest of the party's elite.
You know who I really WISH was running? This may be a bit of a surprise: JOE LIEBERMAN. He's REASONABLE. MODERATE. Someone who'd listen to both sides of an issue and try to see the rationale for each viewpoint, and then try to make the best decision. I've come to respect him quite a bit. We could do a lot worse. CJ |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:15:26 PM EDT
[#42]
We have. We will. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:21:41 PM EDT
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He's a representitive of a foriegn government,reguardless of what his supporters state.He's just as bad if not worse than hitllery.Worst Idea EVER. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:23:38 PM EDT
[#44]
That quote is totally out of context and irrelevant. The fact you would try to use to gain leverage in this discussion shows you're definately not as smart as you think you are. P.S. If you want to bring the founding fathers into this, go read Federalist No. 10 and get back to me |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:28:13 PM EDT
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Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. I know that that is a tired old saw, but it is the truth. I have had it up to here (I am holding my hand really high) with voting for candidates that are not worthy to wash my laundry, much less hold public office. From here on out, if I cannot for FOR a candidate, I will refrain from voting in that election.
As an aside, it is my opinion that at this point in time, it matters not who is elected to any office. The tsunami of unpleasantness that is headed our way will not be abated by anything short of divine intervention. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:28:27 PM EDT
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Yeah, pretty much. WTF over ?! I don't care how moderate Lieberman is, he's a liberal and an anti-gunner. The fact that the Dems have shunned him does not automatically make him into a good guy. Enemy of my enemy is my friend does not always work in American politics. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:28:44 PM EDT
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Be a man, vote the way you want to vote. Dont let anyone tell you how you should run your life...
Then be man enough to live with your choice. 
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:31:04 PM EDT
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Vote for a RINO like Giuliani and you'll never get the chance to vote for a real conservative again.
That cross-dressing, impotent freak will sign the democrat gun bans like a rubber stamp and the dems will have a "reasonable Republican" to provide them political cover. We'd lose more gun rights under Giuliani than under Hildabeest. |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:31:10 PM EDT
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The founding fathers couldn't have imagined how bad things would be now, either, in some respects.
And frankly I think they'd be disappointed in us. They'd think we're LONG overdue for another revolution...our third or maybe fourth. CJ |
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Posted: 10/5/2007 11:33:05 PM EDT
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What do YOU think? |
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