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Posted: 10/10/2007 7:43:04 PM EDT

OK, since I FUBAR'd the last thread, we'll try again. Help me choose a 1911. The wife has given me the go-ahead. Gotta keep it under $1000.

Poll and pics inbound. This time feel free to post pics and suggestions to help me choose the right 1911.

Thanks guys.

Springfield Loaded Black Stainless Target

Sprindfield MC Operator

S&W 1911PD Rail...I was truely impressed with how these felt.

OK, here is the Black Stainless Loaded Combat for those of you who don;t like adjustable sights.

Jut to let you guys know it is to be a companion gun to my M1A Loaded Stainless.

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:00:09 PM EDT

[#1]

Wait wait wait wait...Blackened Stainless...TARGET?? What the heck, do you plan on adjusting your rear sight or something??

COMBAT BABY! Fixed Tritium sights like a mofo.

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:00:25 PM EDT

[#2]

Get the Operator.. You will love it!! I love mine!

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:01:27 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Wait wait wait wait...Blackened Stainless...TARGET?? What the heck, do you plan on adjusting your rear sight or something??

COMBAT BABY! Fixed Tritium sights like a mofo.

Killswitch is a 1911 noob.

Gotta love him.

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:02:14 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Wait wait wait wait...Blackened Stainless...TARGET?? What the heck, do you plan on adjusting your rear sight or something??

COMBAT BABY! Fixed Tritium sights like a mofo.

Adjustable sights ARE nice if I ever put a suppressor on it.

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:02:42 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wait wait wait wait...Blackened Stainless...TARGET?? What the heck, do you plan on adjusting your rear sight or something??

COMBAT BABY! Fixed Tritium sights like a mofo.

Adjustable sights ARE nice if I ever put a suppressor on it.

Not if you plan on carrying it you noober.

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:03:01 PM EDT

[#6]

Double tap.

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:04:16 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wait wait wait wait...Blackened Stainless...TARGET?? What the heck, do you plan on adjusting your rear sight or something??

COMBAT BABY! Fixed Tritium sights like a mofo.

Killswitch is a 1911 noob.

Gotta love him.

Tis true, I have only shot three in my life.

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:08:14 PM EDT

[#8]

Better thread, I like this one.

I have a Warrior, 100% reliable, so thats the way I voted out of experience. I own a Springfield milspec that is also a great weapon, and they offer a great warranty. I don't think you could go wrong either way, just stay away from the S&W with the external extractor (i.e. not the way JMB designed the 1911). I've heard quite a bit of negative feedback from S&W owners, it just takes about 6 months - year before its really a problem.

Kimbers made in Yonkers, New York, and the Springy I have was made in Brazil. The Operator might be US made, though.

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:40:41 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
just ask yourself "what would browning do"

Tie a candle to his gun?

Blast all 8 rounds into the dark?

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:41:59 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
just ask yourself "what would browning do"

Tie a candle to his gun?

Blast all 8 rounds into the dark?

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:42:52 PM EDT

[#11]

You're not biased are you Luger?

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:47:44 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
You're not biased are you Luger?

nah

i mearly wish to spread the word of JMB to the masses...

Posted: 10/10/2007 8:50:13 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
just ask yourself "what would browning do"

Tie a candle to his gun?

Blast all 8 rounds into the dark?

www.cuttingedge.org/Inquisition_13_Burning.jpg

Posted: 10/10/2007 9:09:20 PM EDT

[#14]

More halp please!

Posted: 10/10/2007 9:22:02 PM EDT

[#15]

The S&W ain't in the poll.

Buy the S&W.

Posted: 10/10/2007 9:27:01 PM EDT

[#16]

I like the operator with the fixed sights. Looks great, has the usual do-dads.

Posted: 10/10/2007 9:27:23 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
The S&W ain't in the poll.

Buy the S&W.

That's why there is an "Other:Explain" option.

Posted: 10/10/2007 9:31:26 PM EDT

[#18]

Tag.

Have a friend who might want a 1911 & I suggested teh SA.

Posted: 10/10/2007 9:59:15 PM EDT

[#19]

Der Bump

Posted: 10/10/2007 10:10:03 PM EDT

[#20]

Springfield MC Operator.

Posted: 10/10/2007 10:13:41 PM EDT

[#21]

I recently picked up a Dan Wesson Pointman7 and that thing has EVERYTHING I could possibly want in a 1911. stainless, target hammer, trigger, sights, checkering, the whole shiibang. if I didnt have that I would get a taurus 1911. but wait for the stainless to come out.

Posted: 10/10/2007 11:23:08 PM EDT

[#22]

Bumpage.

Posted: 10/11/2007 4:34:06 AM EDT

[#23]

If I were to buy a 1911 today, I'd probably pick the Kimber Warrior.

Therefore, that is what I voted for.

Posted: 10/11/2007 4:42:31 AM EDT

[#24]

I think the MC Operator looks the best out of them. Only ever shot a 1911 Colt Gold Cup Match or some such, but I will put in my .03344556 (due to inflation) anyways.

Posted: 10/11/2007 4:46:09 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
OK, since I FUBAR'd the last thread, we'll try again. Help me choose a 1911. The wife has given me the go-ahead. Gotta keep it under $1000.

Poll and pics inbound. This time feel free to post pics and suggestions to help me choose the right 1911.

Thanks guys.

Get a basic new production Colt 1911 (which offer decent reliability by most reports) and then save up for any custom work you want done on it.

Posted: 10/11/2007 4:56:24 AM EDT

[#26]

Here is the 1911 I am looking at getting. Dan Wesson Bobtail. They run between $850-880.

Posted: 10/11/2007 5:10:47 AM EDT

[#27]

I have kimber warrior that has been dead solid reliable for me

I changed the peanut grips for a nice set of custom grips.

I also have a Sprgfield GI model that has done all i have asked of it.

Posted: 10/11/2007 5:15:01 AM EDT

[#28]

If you're thinking of carrying it, get night sights and ditch the rail. You can't carry a 1911 with a heavy rail and a big honking flashlight on it.

If you want a bedside gun, then by all means, get the rail and light.

If you want a classic to take to the range get a classic. Springfield, kimber, Colt, upper end with all the doodads and the extra TLC, but not target sights. And no fricken rail. Stainless is nice, but every little scratch shows. A blued or parked or duracoat finish will stand up better, pretty much in that order. Not been around the blackened stainless.

Dan Wesson is worth looking at, but S&W should not even be making a 1911, and Taurus is not what people think of when they are looking for a high end cookie cutter 1911.

Ambi-safety is nice for lefties and weak hand training.

Don't get a mil-spec and think you'll build it up. You'll end up with too much in the gun if you ever get around to doing the mods.

Rock River would be primo, but that is out of the budget range.

Posted: 10/11/2007 5:18:28 AM EDT

[#29]

I love mine!

Posted: 10/11/2007 5:18:56 AM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
www.gunsandammomag.com/GAbobtail_041305A.jpg

Here is the 1911 I am looking at getting. Dan Wesson Bobtail. They run between $850-880.

Now that would make a nice carry gun. Night sights would be a plus.

Posted: 10/11/2007 5:35:41 AM EDT

[#31]

Kimber Warrior. Mine runs like a champ.
S&W have external extractor Voodoo.

Get a Warrior/Desert Warrior
Loose the faggot stock grips.
TLR-1
????
Profit

Here is my DW with VZ grips.

Posted: 10/11/2007 5:40:31 AM EDT

[#32]

I have to grudgingly admit the Taurus is probably the best buy on the market right now. Every single example I've handled is tight and has a good tricker.

Otherwise, just pick a Springfield, Kimber, or S&W that has the gadgets you want.

Posted: 10/11/2007 6:51:38 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
I have to grudgingly admit the Taurus is probably the best buy on the market right now. Every single example I've handled is tight and has a good tricker.

Otherwise, just pick a Springfield, Kimber, or S&W that has the gadgets you want.

And the Taurus has all the same features as the others.

Posted: 10/11/2007 7:22:20 AM EDT

[#34]

i've never really been a 1911 guy, but when the warrior came out, i finally decided to get one. there was article after article about how this gun could do it all, and a bag of chips. well, i won't lie, i got caught up in the hype and laid down a LOT of money on the biggest POS i've ever owned.

i suppose a few turds make it out of every factory, but man, that thing sucked. it had every problem everyone ever had with their warriors, all wrapped into one expensive pistol.

i had warranty work done by kimber, but all the problems came back immediately. i sold it to a friend who knw about the problems for a steep discount.

my advice would be, dog around for a used one locally that you can shoot before you buy. that way you know it works, and you'll get it cheaper to boot.

Posted: 10/11/2007 8:12:28 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

i've never really been a 1911 guy, but when the warrior came out, i finally decided to get one. there was article after article about how this gun could do it all, and a bag of chips. well, i won't lie, i got caught up in the hype and laid down a LOT of money on the biggest POS i've ever owned.

i suppose a few turds make it out of every factory, but man, that thing sucked. it had every problem everyone ever had with their warriors, all wrapped into one expensive pistol.

i had warranty work done by kimber, but all the problems came back immediately. i sold it to a friend who knw about the problems for a steep discount.

my advice would be, dog around for a used one locally that you can shoot before you buy. that way you know it works, and you'll get it cheaper to boot.

Yours is the only story I have every heard of a Warrior having those kind of issues.

Why didnt you sent it back to kimber as opposed to taking a hit selling it?

Posted: 10/11/2007 8:14:35 AM EDT

[#36]

Taurus PT1911.

Posted: 10/11/2007 8:19:14 AM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
I think you're doing yourself a real disservice by not considering the Taurus 1911.

I am not a 1911 guy, but I really like my Taurus.

+1

I have had mine for a year and have been really happy with it. Great value if you can find one without a jacked up price tag.

Posted: 10/11/2007 8:22:39 AM EDT

[#38]

Any photos of the Taurus?

Does it use standard parts?

Posted: 10/11/2007 8:27:45 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:

i've never really been a 1911 guy, but when the warrior came out, i finally decided to get one. there was article after article about how this gun could do it all, and a bag of chips. well, i won't lie, i got caught up in the hype and laid down a LOT of money on the biggest POS i've ever owned.

i suppose a few turds make it out of every factory, but man, that thing sucked. it had every problem everyone ever had with their warriors, all wrapped into one expensive pistol.

i had warranty work done by kimber, but all the problems came back immediately. i sold it to a friend who knw about the problems for a steep discount.

my advice would be, dog around for a used one locally that you can shoot before you buy. that way you know it works, and you'll get it cheaper to boot.

Yours is the only story I have every heard of a Warrior having those kind of issues.

Why didnt you sent it back to kimber as opposed to taking a hit selling it?

i did.

twice actually. once because the finish came off the first time i put it in a holster (bear in mind that this was about 3 days after i bought the pistol, and about a week before i got to shoot it), and the second time because extraction was both intermitent, and arbitrary.

both problems came back shortly after "service".

Posted: 10/11/2007 8:28:23 AM EDT

[#40]

My Kimber Warrior is nothing less then flawless is has fed, fired, and extracted everything i have gave it.
Coming from a passed down the family tree USGI M1911 made in 1942 that has seen WW2 through Gulf-War I with about ~39,000 rounds through it, i am happy to add the Kimber Warrior to my pistol collection.

Posted: 10/11/2007 8:34:53 AM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:
Kimber Warrior. Mine runs like a champ.
S&W have external extractor Voodoo.

Get a Warrior/Desert Warrior
Loose the faggot stock grips.
TLR-1
????
Profit

Here is my DW with VZ grips.

i148.photobucket.com/albums/s24/nofbdybs/thelordsround.jpg

I have been working on getting a Warrior to go with my pair of CDP's.

It will of course be chambered in the Lord's choice of calibers!

BigDozer66

Posted: 10/11/2007 8:41:44 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
Any photos of the Taurus?

Does it use standard parts?

I do not know about the parts?

BigDozer66

Posted: 10/11/2007 9:12:33 AM EDT

[#43]

Kimber warrior.

By far the smoothest and most accurate stock 1911 Ive ever owned. The slide to frame fit is butter smooth and its as accurate as the day is long. The trigger is super-smooth and breaks very clean and The Kimpro self-lubricating finish is also a great feature on the warrior. Mine still looks pretty darn new after 3,000 rounds, a few shooting courses and plenty of abuse.

It was the first gun That I could confidently put 8 round mag after 8 round mag into a papper plate @ 40 yards without thinking about it. The MC Operator would be a distant second; Ive heard good things about it but havent had the chance to shoot it.

Posted: 10/11/2007 4:31:27 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:
snip

Jut to let you guys know it is to be a companion gun to my M1A Loaded Stainless.
i112.photobucket.com/albums/n161/killswitch82/Picture001.jpg
i112.photobucket.com/albums/n161/killswitch82/Picture006.jpg

Whoa, dude! That Chupacabra sighting must have really freaked you out.

There ain't that many zombies in west SLC.

I had that little beauty long before I saw chupa-thingy.

Posted: 10/11/2007 4:34:50 PM EDT

[#45]

Off your list I'd pick the Warrior first and the MC operator second.

I have a Warrior, does night time home protection duty with an attached Streamlight TLR-1

Posted: 10/11/2007 4:43:33 PM EDT

[#46]

The 1911 crowd may burn me at the stake for this, but I say "None of the above."

JW_777's suggestion is what I'd do in your shoes. I'm not so convinced anymore that a solid, reliable 1911 can be had for less than $1K or so out of the box, at least not from the big name manufacturers out there.