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WASHINGTON - Starting this weekend, police in the District will begin shutting down high-crime neighborhoods and requiring drivers to present identification before they are allowed to pass through checkpoints. Last weekend's murder spree in the District prompted leaders to take action.

The new initiative, called "Neighborhood Safety Zones," allows D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier to designate areas where there have been an outbreak of violence.

Once an area is designated, signs and checkpoints will go up and neighbors will be notified. Any car trying to enter the designated neighborhood will be stopped, and drivers and passengers will have to produce identification. They will also have to give an explanation as to why they are there.

Pedestrians will not be affected by the new policy.

According to the Police General Order obtained by the Washington Examiner, anyone who refuses to provide identification can be arrested.

The zones must be approved by Lanier, and will be in effect 24 hours a day for a maximum of 10 days. The checkpoints will be set up on major roads and will operate at random hours while the designation is in effect.

"We're not going to be predictable," says Lanier.

The first neighborhood to be shut down will be part of Trinidad in Northeast, D.C., near Florida Avenue. More zones could be established if there is evidence to support violent crime in the neighborhood, such as intelligence, violent crime data, police reports and feedback and concerns from the community.

Interim D.C. Attorney General Peter Nickles says the "provisions are fully constitutional."

"This is an unusual remedy for a very unusual time period with respect to homicides."

Eight people were killed and at least eight wounded in weekend violence in the District. The deaths bring this year's homicide total in the city to 73. It's the first time this year that the number has exceeded the tally from the same date in 2007.

Most of the weekend killings happened in the 5th Police District in Northeast.

"Welcome to Baghdad, D.C.," says Art Spitzer with the ACLU. "In this country, you don't need identification papers and to give an explanation for why you want to go from one neighborhood to another."

D.C. Councilmember Phil Mendelson calls the tactics illegal.

"I support increased police presence to reduce crime, but to stop innocent people, require identification, and require everyone to explain themselves is unlawful."

Lanier says as long as they stop every car it is legal.

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Fuck. That. Noise.

if this doesn't scream "Papers please.." then I dont know what does

goddamn, DC is fucked..

And to think I almost applied to work as a cop in DC

papers please

And yet one step closer to the U.S.S.A (United Socialist States of America)

Fuck D.C.  and fuck cathy lanier (ewww)

Typical.

D.C. sets the curve on shitting on peoples rights.

Yeah, I'm definitely NEVER going to regret my decision to avoid DC at all costs (which is harder than you think, because the contract I'm on is with a federal agency in DC).

_MaH

If I lived near there (instead of in Texas) I would go for a drive, camera in hand.

"Am I being detained?"

"Am I free to go?"

Etc.

-p.

Who wants to bet they start handing out tickets as well?

10-day revenue-generating "safety" checkpoint!

How much you wanna bet this wouldn't fly if guns were legal?

With all due respect, I don't wish to discuss my personal business with you, officer.  Am I free to go?  Am I free to go?  Am I free to go?  On what charge am I being held?  Am I free to go?  I don't answer questions.  Am I free to go?  What part of "I don't answer questions" did you not understand?  Am I free to go?  That sounded like a question.  Again, I don't wish to discuss my personal business with you, officer.  Am I free to go?  

Quoted: "Welcome to Baghdad, D.C.," says Art Spitzer with the ACLU. "In this country, you don't need identification papers and to give an explanation for why you want to go from one neighborhood to another."

Well, it did work in Baghdad.  

Plus I hate people who live in DC.  DC residents have the government they asked for and the government they deserve.

Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

ETA-IBTA ,  but just barely

Just a question of proportion, how many murders / week in DC till you think it may be a good time to institute some "emergency procedures" to quell the violence?

20 murders / week?

50?  100?  200?

Probably a desperate attempt at posturing to persuade the USSC to allow the pathetic little ban to stay in place.

Quoted: Quoted: "Welcome to Baghdad, D.C.," says Art Spitzer with the ACLU. "In this country, you don't need identification papers and to give an explanation for why you want to go from one neighborhood to another." Well, it did work in Baghdad.   Plus I hate people who live in DC.

We need to build a wall around DC.

Green Zone?

Quoted: Green Zone?

Try Berlin 1939...

Quoted: We need to build a wall around DC.

We'd be fine if we just built walls on all the bridges coming from Maryland and DC.

Thats our Capitol too.


Fucking pathetic.

Wow.

Quoted: wow Pedestrians will not be affected by the new policy.

Why is that? Is it because the majority of pedestrians are black, drug dealers, and gang bangers in that area?


Fuck you you commie cunt.

I can't say how i really feel

Quoted: And yet one step closer to the U.S.S.A (United Socialist States of America) Fuck D.C.  and fuck cathy lanier (ewww)

I Googled up lanier and found this:



Larger picture here

Two questions:

1) What are all the ribbons for? Are there battle ribbons for various neighborhoods in DC?

2) Does anyone else think those uniforms & hats are somewhat reminiscent of a Banana Republic Army?

Quoted: Quoted: Green Zone? Try Berlin 1939...

Funny, guns were banned there too.

Big Brother knows best.

Quoted: Just a question of proportion, how many murders / week in DC till you think it may be a good time to institute some "emergency procedures" to quell the violence? 20 murders / week? 50?  100?  200?

Increased police presence, fine.  Unconstitutional 4th ammend. detentions, not under any circumstance in this country.  If I were closer I would fuck with those cops every chance I had.

Quoted: Thats our Capitol too. Fucking pathetic.

Must keep the Capitol safe.

I have mixed emotions about posting this, but the imagery is too strong to ignore. Not just the DC officer, but the fence & flags within. And the extra mags. Shame that this is what kids nowadays will grow up thinking is 'normal' for DC.

Quoted: If I lived near there (instead of in Texas) I would go for a drive, camera in hand. "Am I being detained?" "Am I free to go?" Etc. -p.

You wouldn't want to leave the safety of Northwest DC... honestly.

Northeast DC is already kind of pushing it.  Venture into any area in southern DC is quite dangerous!

Welcome to Baghdad

indeed... the similarities are worth talking about.. what is going on in iraq is like a big police action to control gangs, tribes, militias, clans,  local armed groups of ethnic/religous men bent on controlling their turf and expanding it and pushing out their rivals. thing is most of iraq is this way.. and most of the us is not that way. But there are pockets in all cities of this stuff. and it aint a black thing, you got all colors and ethnic groups..

mayhap we could bring the troops home to take care of our gangs.. clean up the ghettos and barios.. make it safe...

if you are not of the local tribe, and you go try to live there, i wonder how long you would last before you were tatooed, screwed, stewed and eaten (talkin about your local ghetto here)..

mayhap o(b/s)ama will change all dat...

Quoted: Just a question of proportion, how many murders / week in DC till you think it may be a good time to institute some "emergency procedures" to quell the violence? 20 murders / week? 50?  100?  200?

For something like this to be ok?  Insurrection or Invasion.  Until then, the constitution is in full effect.

I hope DC does more, sets up more check points.  I also hope that many other cities do the same, that way this show can get started and so everyone who always defends government can eat a boot w/drivers license.  Its not like these checkpoints are going to magically stop happening...

I got a crazy idea!

How about the fucking cops just patrol these areas non-stop. When they see a real crime, they could actually do their job!

Fucking JBTs (Real JBTs, not most LE agencies)

A checkpoint at every corner and an AR on every cop.

Now now.... lets be realistic here.



We all know no DC cop is going anywhere NEAR any area know as "high crime" or "dangerous."

-3D

Quoted: Quoted: "Welcome to Baghdad, D.C.," says Art Spitzer with the ACLU. "In this country, you don't need identification papers and to give an explanation for why you want to go from one neighborhood to another." Well, it did work in Baghdad.   Plus I hate people who live in DC.  DC residents have the government they asked for and the government they deserve.

I'm DC ex-Mayor Marion Barry, and I approve of CRACK! Mmmm baby, show me dem breastises...

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WTF Chest full of ribbons and 4 stars?        

Is she Chief of Police, or did she win WWII herself?                    

Quoted: mpdc.dc.gov/mpdc/lib/mpdc/about/org/images/lanier_cathy.jpg WTF Chest full of ribbons and 4 stars?         Is she Chief of Police, or did she win WWII herself?

politician with a badge is my guess.

Is her CV out there anywhere?

Her bona fides

Cathy L. Lanier was named Chief of Metropolitan Police Department by DC Mayor Adrian Fenty. She officially assumed the leadership position on January 2, 2007. On April 3, 2007, members of DC Council approved confirmation.

Chief Lanier has spent her entire law enforcement career with the Metropolitan Police Department, beginning in 1990. Most of her career has been in uniformed patrol, where she served as Commander of the Fourth District, one of the largest and most diverse residential patrol districts in the city. She also served as the Commanding Officer of the Department's Major Narcotics Branch and Vehicular Homicide Units.

More recently, Chief Lanier served as Commander of the Special Operations Division (SOD) for four years, where she managed the Emergency Response Team, Aviation and Harbor Units, Horse Mounted and Canine Units, Special Events/Dignitary Protection Branch, and Civil Disturbance Units. During her tenure as SOD Commander, she established the agency’s first Homeland Security/Counter-Terrorism Branch and created an agency-wide chemical, biological, radiological response unit known as the Special Threat Action Team.

In 2006, the MPDC's Office of Homeland Security and Counter-Terrorism (OHSCT) was created, and Chief Lanier was tapped to be its first Commanding Officer. A highly respected professional in the areas of homeland security and community policing, she took the lead role in developing and implementing coordinated counter-terrorism strategies for all units within the MPDC and launched Operation TIPP (Terrorist Incident Prevention Program).

Chief Lanier is a graduate of the FBI National Academy and the federal Drug Enforcement Administration’s Drug Unit Commanders Academy. She holds Bachelor's and Master’s Degrees in Management from Johns Hopkins University, and a Master's Degree in National Security Studies from the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California. She is certified at the technician level in Hazardous Materials Operations.

Quoted: Quoted: And yet one step closer to the U.S.S.A (United Socialist States of America) Fuck D.C.  and fuck cathy lanier (ewww) I Googled up lanier and found this: media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/08/08/PH2007080801357.jpg Larger picture here Two questions: 1) What are all the ribbons for? Are there battle ribbons for various neighborhoods in DC? 2) Does anyone else think those uniforms & hats are somewhat reminiscent of a Banana Republic Army?

the ribbons are for:
restricting rights
gun grabbing
anti-freedom
wasting money
anti-Americanism
sitting on ass as crime skyrockets
implementing useless ideas
joining the force
beating on innocents
wrong house on no-knock raids
marksmanship on dogs

and yes the uniforms do resemble foreign military uniforms.

Quoted: Quoted: Thats our Capitol too. Fucking pathetic. Must keep the Capitol safe. I have mixed emotions about posting this, but the imagery is too strong to ignore. Not just the DC officer, but the fence & flags within. And the extra mags. Shame that this is what kids nowadays will grow up thinking is 'normal' for DC. www.tonyrogers.com/news/images/photooftheday/dc_capitol_police_350px.jpg

That is a capitol police officer, NOT a Metropolitan Police Officer

Quoted: Now now.... lets be realistic here. We all know no DC cop is going anywhere NEAR any area know as "high crime" or "dangerous." -3D

You ever been into the areas with "high crime" in DC? Before you go shitting on the MPD I would suggest you do a ridealong with the Dept. and see what it is really like there. I plan on applying to MPD after I graduate college and have talked to many MPD officers and did a ridealong in NE in the 6th District which is the most violent. We spent ALL NIGHT in the "high crime" areas....
I have the utmost respect for those officers. They've got a hard job...cut 'em some slack.

Those DC police recruits look almost just like the Brown shirts Sturm Abteilung of Hitler in the early days.  Odd choice for an uniform.  Sieg Heil!

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And yet one step closer to the U.S.S.A (United Socialist States of America) Fuck D.C.  and fuck cathy lanier (ewww) I Googled up lanier and found this: media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/08/08/PH2007080801357.jpg Larger picture here Two questions: 1) What are all the ribbons for? Are there battle ribbons for various neighborhoods in DC? 2) Does anyone else think those uniforms & hats are somewhat reminiscent of a Banana Republic Army? the ribbons are for: restricting rights gun grabbing anti-freedom wasting money anti-Americanism sitting on ass as crime skyrockets implementing useless ideas joining the force beating on innocents wrong house on no-knock raids marksmanship on dogs and yes the uniforms do resemble foreign military uniforms.

Those uniforms are the utility uniform worn while in the academy. OMG OMG THEY LOOK LIKE FOREIGN INVADERS!!!!! QUICK MAN THE ROOFTOPS

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Thats our Capitol too. Fucking pathetic. Must keep the Capitol safe. I have mixed emotions about posting this, but the imagery is too strong to ignore. Not just the DC officer, but the fence & flags within. And the extra mags. Shame that this is what kids nowadays will grow up thinking is 'normal' for DC. www.tonyrogers.com/news/images/photooftheday/dc_capitol_police_350px.jpg That is a capitol police officer, NOT a Metropolitan Police Officer

It's an old picture, try the new and improved MPD.

Quoted: Just a question of proportion, how many murders / week in DC till you think it may be a good time to institute some "emergency procedures" form of every law abiding citizen packing heat, to quell the violence? 20 murders / week? 50?  100?  200?

i wonder what theyd say if when asked why you were there, you said "because i fucking feel like it"

Quoted: Those DC police recruits look almost just like the Brown shirts Sturm Abteilung of Hitler in the early days.  Odd choice for an uniform.  Sieg Heil!

They call it khaki...  Its a uniform. I never understood why people get so up in arma over what a police agency looks  like... not to mention its recruits

Quoted: "Welcome to Baghdad, D.C.," says Art Spitzer with the ACLU. "In this country, you don't need identification papers and to give an explanation for why you want to go from one neighborhood to another."

Holy shit! I agree with the ACLU! The end is nigh my friends.

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And yet one step closer to the U.S.S.A (United Socialist States of America) Fuck D.C.  and fuck cathy lanier (ewww) I Googled up lanier and found this: media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2007/08/08/PH2007080801357.jpg Larger picture here Two questions: 1) What are all the ribbons for? Are there battle ribbons for various neighborhoods in DC? 2) Does anyone else think those uniforms & hats are somewhat reminiscent of a Banana Republic Army? the ribbons are for: restricting rights gun grabbing anti-freedom wasting money anti-Americanism sitting on ass as crime skyrockets implementing useless ideas joining the force beating on innocents wrong house on no-knock raids marksmanship on dogs and yes the uniforms do resemble foreign military uniforms. Those uniforms are the utility uniform worn while in the academy. OMG OMG THEY LOOK LIKE FOREIGN INVADERS!!!!! QUICK MAN THE ROOFTOPS

I was agreeing on what they LOOK LIKE not that I give a damn.