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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:00:11 PM EDT
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For reference and tons of (sometimes) factual and informative reading. Part 2 Part 1 Get in early! Get in often!  |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:00:49 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:06:55 PM EDT
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Thanks for starting ver. 3.0 I have learned a lot in the previous threads, from both the Baghdad Bobs, and the Doom-n-Gloomers.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:07:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:08:13 PM EDT
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In on 1
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:09:11 PM EDT
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Placeholder...and in on 1.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:09:30 PM EDT
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In on 1
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:10:30 PM EDT
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In on 1
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:10:56 PM EDT
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Didn't you hear? The recession is (likely) over!
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:11:31 PM EDT
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Thank God, I've been waiting for part 3. I hope it doesn't end the same way as one and two. Anybody who's seen the ending please don't spoil it for me.
Just kidding, these are very good threads. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:12:02 PM EDT
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I accidentally on page one.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:12:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Didn't you hear? The recession is (likely) over! I did hear that. I also lol'd. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:13:07 PM EDT
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Is it bad yet?
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:13:08 PM EDT
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In on, what... 75?
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:13:08 PM EDT
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I've had to power down the logic engine. It just won't run right anymore. I try, and sparks fly. Nothing but grinding gears. Not worth this pain, so I will not use it. It does look nice in the corner though.
I'll be watching though. 
I'm sure sooner or later, I'll have to jump in to point at stupid when I see it. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:15:27 PM EDT
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this is worth repeating ....
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-economic-megatrends-will-drive-our-future nicely written imo... |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:15:31 PM EDT
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just cause I like the pain...
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:15:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: I've had to power down the logic engine. It just won't run right anymore. I try, and sparks fly. Nothing but grinding gears. Not worth this pain, so I will not use it. It does look nice in the corner though. I'll be watching though. I'm sure sooner or later, I'll have to jump in to point at stupid when I see it. Have you heard that the recession is all over with? |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:19:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: just cause I like the pain... Welcome home  |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:19:46 PM EDT
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I've had to power down the logic engine. It just won't run right anymore. I try, and sparks fly. Nothing but grinding gears. Not worth this pain, so I will not use it. It does look nice in the corner though. I'll be watching though.
I'm sure sooner or later, I'll have to jump in to point at stupid when I see it. Have you heard that the recession is all over with?
Ack!
That's tasty bait! |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:20:01 PM EDT
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Didn't you hear? The recession is (likely) over! I did hear that. I also lol'd.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:23:05 PM EDT
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A girl I went to high school with is the Sales Manager for the Home, Seasonal, and Juniors departments at Dillard's. I haven't talked to her in a few years, but this was her Facebook status update tonight:
...one would think I love my job considering how much and how hard I work...heading back to Dillard's after working 10 hrs straight...setting up Christmas, yes I said Christmas.
Seriously? Christmas? It is September 15th, and I thought it was odd when the local grocery store had pumpkins sitting outside. ....Christmas? Already? Really? 
I need to link her to a few Denninger articles on why they are probably trying to sell for Christmas already. 
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:24:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've had to power down the logic engine. It just won't run right anymore. I try, and sparks fly. Nothing but grinding gears. Not worth this pain, so I will not use it. It does look nice in the corner though. I'll be watching though. I'm sure sooner or later, I'll have to jump in to point at stupid when I see it. Have you heard that the recession is all over with? Ack! That's tasty bait! |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:25:34 PM EDT
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In on 1 of epic pt III!!!
I have some money in the market now but I will be pulling it out friday. I want to get a jump on the October crash of 2009
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:26:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:30:55 PM EDT
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just cause I like the pain... |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:32:01 PM EDT
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In again.
Thanks for re-restarting it. Kudos to America-First for starting it in the first place. HH |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:32:53 PM EDT
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So I wonder ... these banks think that it's a good idea to raise most of their CC holder's rates to 30% when they miss a payment or for no particular reason ... isn't that cause more to simply default knowing that they can't keep up when the rate is normal let alone when it goes to 30? It seems the banks are CAUSING even more defaults. |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:36:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: Kudos to America-First for starting it in the first place. HH +1  |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:42:36 PM EDT
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In!
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:49:24 PM EDT
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In!
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:50:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:51:00 PM EDT
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You know the first one ended prematurely too.
Still 50 pages to go
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:52:45 PM EDT
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this is worth repeating .... http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-economic-megatrends-will-drive-our-future nicely written imo... Yes I'm one of the ADD people. Cliff notes please |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:53:06 PM EDT
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tag/in on one etc.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:53:48 PM EDT
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In on 1 of epic pt III!!! I have some money in the market now but I will be pulling it out friday. I want to get a jump on the October crash of 2009 Based on what? A hunch? |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:55:26 PM EDT
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in on 3.0 pg 1
Pmc |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:56:00 PM EDT
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IBTME |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:57:59 PM EDT
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Didn't you hear? The recession is (likely) over! What a load of crap. When will the BS stop? |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:58:27 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: In on 1 of epic pt III!!! I have some money in the market now but I will be pulling it out friday. I want to get a jump on the October crash of 2009 Based on what? A hunch? Info and opinions. What are you going on? Really, and respectfully? From Jim Sinclair: Size and major risk have been confirmed for those with the eyes to see and the ears to hear. It is exactly what I have been teaching. Translation: Unless financial contracts have standards there is no way to clear them. Unless financial instruments have accurate means of daily valuation, there is no way to clear them. OTC derivatives outstanding from 1991 to 2008 have no standards. OTC derivatives outstanding from 1991 to 2008 have no sound means of true valuation in any time frame, certainly not from day to day. With this being the incontrovertible set of facts: The Bank for International Settlements is for the first time proposing the world's central banks take over the financial risk of the entire mountain of more than one quadrillion one hundred and forty four trillion dollars (valuation before the change to "value to maturity" method valuation of nominal value of OTC derivatives) of OTC derivatives created from 1991 to 2008. The reason is simple. This unchanged in size mountain of weapons of mass financial destruction as still sitting there ready to explode in the second chapter of the greatest double dip depression of 2007 - 2009. Can you blame China for simply saying no to Western crack cocaine finance? Now do you understand why China is buying raw materials, entering joint ventures and purchasing energy and raw material companies while utilizing their dollar instruments for payment? Central Banks Must Coordinate Clearinghouse Oversight, BIS Says By Abigail Moses Sept. 13 (Bloomberg) –– Central banks should coordinate global oversight of derivatives clearinghouses and consider offering them access to emergency funds to limit systemic risk, according to the Bank for International Settlements. Regulators are pushing for much of the $592 trillion market in over-the-counter derivatives trades to be moved to clearinghouses which act as the buyer to every seller and seller to every buyer, reducing the risk to the financial system from defaults. The drive was spurred by the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and the rescue of American International Group Inc., two of the biggest credit-default swaps traders. "The crisis has exposed the need for international coordination of the oversight of systemically important" clearinghouses, BIS analysts Stephen Cecchetti, Jacob Gyntelberg and Marc Hollanders wrote in a report published today. An important and unresolved question is whether clearinghouses "should have access to central bank credit facilities and, if so, when," they wrote. JPMorgan Chase & Co., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and 13 other derivatives dealers last week told the Federal Reserve Bank of New York they will submit 95 percent of new credit-default swaps trades to clearinghouses. They made similar commitments for interest-rate derivatives. Intercontinental Exchange Inc., owner of the largest credit-default swap clearinghouse, said last week it will make it easier for hedge funds and other bank clients to access its service to guarantee trades starting next month. More... |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:58:33 PM EDT
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this is not a tag..........
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Posted: 9/15/2009 6:58:56 PM EDT
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In on 1 (of the third variety).
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Posted: 9/15/2009 7:04:22 PM EDT
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In on 1 of epic pt III!!! I have some money in the market now but I will be pulling it out friday. I want to get a jump on the October crash of 2009 Based on what? A hunch? Info and opinions. What are you going on? Really, and respectfully? From Jim Sinclair: Size and major risk have been confirmed for those with the eyes to see and the ears to hear. It is exactly what I have been teaching.
Translation: Unless financial contracts have standards there is no way to clear them. Unless financial instruments have accurate means of daily valuation, there is no way to clear them. OTC derivatives outstanding from 1991 to 2008 have no standards. OTC derivatives outstanding from 1991 to 2008 have no sound means of true valuation in any time frame, certainly not from day to day. With this being the incontrovertible set of facts: The Bank for International Settlements is for the first time proposing the world's central banks take over the financial risk of the entire mountain of more than one quadrillion one hundred and forty four trillion dollars (valuation before the change to "value to maturity" method valuation of nominal value of OTC derivatives) of OTC derivatives created from 1991 to 2008. The reason is simple. This unchanged in size mountain of weapons of mass financial destruction as still sitting there ready to explode in the second chapter of the greatest double dip depression of 2007 - 2009. Can you blame China for simply saying no to Western crack cocaine finance? Now do you understand why China is buying raw materials, entering joint ventures and purchasing energy and raw material companies while utilizing their dollar instruments for payment? Central Banks Must Coordinate Clearinghouse Oversight, BIS Says By Abigail Moses Sept. 13 (Bloomberg) –– Central banks should coordinate global oversight of derivatives clearinghouses and consider offering them access to emergency funds to limit systemic risk, according to the Bank for International Settlements. Regulators are pushing for much of the $592 trillion market in over-the-counter derivatives trades to be moved to clearinghouses which act as the buyer to every seller and seller to every buyer, reducing the risk to the financial system from defaults. The drive was spurred by the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and the rescue of American International Group Inc., two of the biggest credit-default swaps traders. "The crisis has exposed the need for international coordination of the oversight of systemically important" clearinghouses, BIS analysts Stephen Cecchetti, Jacob Gyntelberg and Marc Hollanders wrote in a report published today. An important and unresolved question is whether clearinghouses "should have access to central bank credit facilities and, if so, when," they wrote. JPMorgan Chase & Co., Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and 13 other derivatives dealers last week told the Federal Reserve Bank of New York they will submit 95 percent of new credit-default swaps trades to clearinghouses. They made similar commitments for interest-rate derivatives. Intercontinental Exchange Inc., owner of the largest credit-default swap clearinghouse, said last week it will make it easier for hedge funds and other bank clients to access its service to guarantee trades starting next month. More... What would this do exactly? Is it like a financial reset? |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 7:06:53 PM EDT
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Wow, still going!
Okay, here's a question from a someone who is trying to understand, why is gold at a record close of $1,005 today? I thought (very untrained) that gold was an inverse indicator, i.e. if the economy was good then gold was fairly low priced. And that if gold was on an upward trend then usually inflation was on the way up and the economy on the way down, was that just a theory? In my business I am seeing deflationary trends caused by a tightening market, more people competing for less work is driving the price down; no massive new increases in productivity driving the price, people are just lowballing. Is that happening economy wide? Why are they saying the recession is over? What do they base that on? And finally, what is a Kondratieff Wave and Winter? I saw it on the marketticker.com 
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Posted: 9/15/2009 7:07:44 PM EDT
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IN!
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Posted: 9/15/2009 7:10:07 PM EDT
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Been waiting for Part III to drop this...
The Greatest Sucker's Rally In History, Play By Play |
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Posted: 9/15/2009 7:11:03 PM EDT
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In on 1
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Posted: 9/15/2009 7:12:57 PM EDT
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i'll play
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Posted: 9/15/2009 7:13:18 PM EDT
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in, I guess, what now?
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Posted: 9/15/2009 7:13:41 PM EDT
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i have 42 gold coins i bought back in 1998 and 2001. I had stolen one from my father back in 1988 and pawned it for beer and gas money. later in life i bought him another out of guilt and fell in love with them. every paycheck i bought 1 at the coin shop, about 300 bucks back then. I stashed them away in a safety deposit box in 2002. Have not seen them since. i may go get them out tomorrow and sell the fuckers. what say the hive.
40K could get me a very nice home in Las Vegas.
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Posted: 9/15/2009 7:15:23 PM EDT
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I have enjoyed the other threads on this topic. Please keep this going.
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