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Posted: 5/13/2008 2:52:21 PM EDT
From the Universal-Radio.com web site:
 
Sounds really interesting. My club operates a 223 MHz repeater so I've got the Kenwood TF-F6A which is a tri-band HT. The Yaesu is a quad band which might make an interesting addition with the 6M abilities. The Yaesu puts out only 1.5 watts on 223 MHz which isn't the best but most of the time I can hit the repeater with the Kenwood on 500 mW so it's not that much of a concern. I'd like to see a picture of the high-resolution spectrum analyzer. |
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Posted: 5/13/2008 2:59:24 PM EDT
[#1]
i knew it.
the month i buy my 7r it's obsolete! damn damn damn |
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Posted: 5/13/2008 3:09:14 PM EDT
[#2]
That's hot. </Paris>
Full power on 220 would be better, but it's a low priority for them as the US is really the only market for 220. I've been interested to see any announcements for new products... that one is the first I guess as they have to preempt the radios that will actually be available at Dayton. I'm really hoping for essentially this radio but in a mobile, not a handheld, from some company. Maybe something like an IC-2820H with 6m and 220.
Never buy a radio just before Dayton. |
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Posted: 5/13/2008 3:15:05 PM EDT
[#3]
until last week i didn't know what "dayton" was
 oh well i am getting the wife prepped for her tech test. she may inherit the 7r 
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Posted: 5/13/2008 3:18:19 PM EDT
[#4]
Now you're thinking. You do know that BRDs only real rival is Amateur radio right? |
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Posted: 5/13/2008 3:34:36 PM EDT
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my wallet is figuring that out. i have about 350.00 in radio gear now and i think i have actually transmited 10 whole words. 3.50 a word is kinda pricey for this new hobby |
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Posted: 5/13/2008 4:53:44 PM EDT
[#6]
I think I just soiled myself.
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Posted: 5/13/2008 5:18:24 PM EDT
[#7]
I like the lower profile knobs. Now if they would get with ICOM and put DSTAR on it....
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Posted: 5/13/2008 6:02:30 PM EDT
[#8]
DSTAR isn't Icom, it's an industry standard. Just that Icom is the only company making it. I wish instead of yet another "standard" they would have used the Icom/Kenwood 6.25kHz digital system or something similar. I am glad they didn't use P25 as the codec/audio quality on P25 absolutely sucks IMO. |
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Posted: 5/13/2008 6:25:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Looks like the Klingon communicator from Star Trek. Pretty cool to have a quad band HT with reasonable power on all bands. Hope it isn't too expensive. And to be introduced just when I got all my Icom handhelds using the same battery pack. I have wondered if a 6 meter 5 watt HT would out range a 2 meter 5 watt HT?
RS |
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Posted: 5/13/2008 6:32:13 PM EDT
[#10]
Would need a pretty substantial antenna to get good performance on 6m in an HT I would think. |
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Posted: 5/13/2008 6:53:13 PM EDT
[#11]
The bluetooth is kind of cool too. My Garmin GPS works as a bluetooth hands free set so that would be fun. I wonder if the GPS can do both amateur radio and cell phone at the same time? Keeping the radio stashed out of site and just moving the GPS in and out of view would be nice too.
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Posted: 5/13/2008 8:16:43 PM EDT
[#12]
O . . . M . . . G . . .
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Posted: 5/13/2008 9:03:15 PM EDT
[#13]
nice,, real nice... looks like I just found my next HT
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Posted: 5/13/2008 9:13:56 PM EDT
[#14]
I just bought my 7R
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Posted: 5/14/2008 12:02:53 AM EDT
[#15]
Im pretty happy with my 6R as it is...
I have to agree with whoever said a moble version would be more along the lines Im looking for. |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 1:50:45 AM EDT
[#16]
For 1.5W on 1.25m??? Geez, I wish they would get with the program and give full power to 220 
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Posted: 5/14/2008 3:13:06 AM EDT
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Much better looking radio than the vx7. I have two vx5 radios and it looks like they may be replaced sometime late this year. Also not to be a negative person but I refuse to buy a new handheld or mobile when they are first released. Yaesu and Icom are the worst about beta testing it on the consumers. Then releasing a "updated" radio to fix the bugs everyone is complaining about. If there are no real issues I will have two this year...
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Posted: 5/14/2008 4:16:13 AM EDT
[#18]
Where'd you get that?  Frankly, I don't give a rat's ass about 220 so it could have 0W for all I care. |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 6:39:05 AM EDT
[#19]
Interesting.
I'm happy with my Kenwood F6A, but should the need arise for another, this or the Icom will be worth looking into... -Mark. |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 6:55:49 AM EDT
[#20]
Well I do! Where's my rat anyway? Actually Jax, I have two 220 (real 220, not 222) mobiles that haven't had DC on them in 10 years. Of the four 222 rptrs around here, only one is still on the air. I guess 222 would be a good place for the next MURS band. RS |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 7:28:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/14/2008 8:48:32 AM EDT
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I guess like everything else... Depends on where you are at. Pretty active around here, and California has a boatload of them also. Now if you ever want to get rid of those 220 rigs just gathering dust... Well, my IM works, and I would love to get my hands on a ICOM 37A/38A 220 rig that is not overworked, and beat to death
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Posted: 5/14/2008 9:37:58 AM EDT
[#23]
220 really is a wonderful band. Propagation characteristics, antenna size, some degree of security as few scanners or other radios cover the band, and lack of intermod most places combine to make it an excellent general purpose band. If you have a chance to operate much on it you would discover how good it is.
The biggest downside of course is that it's only an amateur allocation in ITU region 2, so the Japanese companies that make almost all the amateur radio gear don't care much about it. It's only in some of the current handhelds because the extreme broadband nature of some of the circuitry they are using, and lax standards for low powered transmitters allow it to be there at little or no cost. The other issue is that 2m and 440 FM repeaters started out (and still are for the most part) using equipment designed for nearby land mobile bands which was readily available. That wasn't there on the 220 band during the growth period of repeaters, so in many places 220 was just a curiosity. If we could somehow just get the Japanese to go with a 220 allocation, then we'd be awash in 220 radio options, much as we are in 6m radios now. As far as the "next MURS band", theres going to be 72MHz of prime spectrum becoming vacant February 2009. One would think they could find space there for a no-license general use service with enough capacity to make it genuinely useful. Use the upper end of channel 13 and then we could have a source of gear that we can "upband" for 222 
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Posted: 5/14/2008 10:39:18 AM EDT
[#24]
Just my own thought I guess. I don't get the reduced power, that's all. 'Round these parts there is activity on all allowed bands in all allowed modes. |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 12:30:30 PM EDT
[#25]
just saw on a couple of dealers website they are advertising them but stating they are not yet fcc approved for sale in the usa.
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Posted: 5/14/2008 3:07:09 PM EDT
[#26]
WOW! Can't imagine how much its going to cost though :( |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 3:34:57 PM EDT
[#27]
$349.99
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Posted: 5/14/2008 7:33:31 PM EDT
[#28]
I hope they instituted a similar layout to the VX-3r. Menu's, etc.
The VX-7r is cryptic at best. I'm looking forward to it. |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 7:49:48 PM EDT
[#29]
Will it have a BNC connector as opposed to the SMA on the 7R? I absolutely love my 7R but the SMA blows.
Why all the bad talk about 220Mhz? Back when I first got my tech, thats where I got my first contact, when the 2M calling freq was dead. I'm a general ticket holder now and am mostly on the HF bands but around the shack (computer table, man/junk room) I always monitor. |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 8:22:48 PM EDT
[#30]
BlammO The Magnificent says . . . $500-ish 
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Posted: 5/14/2008 8:23:46 PM EDT
[#31]
Doesn't look like a BNC, and can't maintain the waterproofing with a BNC either. |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 8:42:51 PM EDT
[#32]
inset SMA with tapered outer diameter? Would that be OK?
And I forgot one other thing other than DSTAR, needs SSB |
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Posted: 5/14/2008 8:51:21 PM EDT
[#33]
Ahh, good reason. Didn't think of that. ETA- I'll just stick with my BNC adapter which is watertight and provides more support. I can't think of the provider, but I bought it online and it works like a charm. It's like layers of fuel tubing that go around the SMA area that seals against the radio housing. Could be made for real cheap. Now, if only I would have thought of it |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 4:24:00 AM EDT
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i guess being a noob has it's benifits, but i keep hearing the vx-7 is a nightmare to program. i had mine up and going in about 2 hours with the book and ZERO knowledge of anything related to radios. i doubt it would have been much faster for me with anything other than a single channel rig.
once i got the programming cable it's even easier. |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 4:41:58 AM EDT
[#35]
What bad talk? All I did was say it didn't interest me. Someone else said they don't use it much. Someone else said what's good about it. I don't see any "bad" talk about the band. |
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Posted: 5/15/2008 6:12:12 PM EDT
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I am looking at a 7R. I wonder if the price will go down much. |
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Posted: 5/16/2008 4:54:27 PM EDT
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Looks like another: "I WANT ONE!" If it's under $450 it's a done deal.
Damn, I was waiting until after Dayton to order another IC-7000 for my portable/bug out station. I guess I'd better get a job, no?
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Posted: 5/24/2008 9:22:08 PM EDT
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The rumor from one of the guys at Yaesu is that the VX-8 will have aprs built into it. They were displaying a speaker-mike with a gps unit in it. Very good for SAR and ARES people. It just makes sense to make a speaker mike that has a gps in it and that you will not need any more wires to connect and add things to break.
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Posted: 5/25/2008 10:33:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/25/2008 2:23:39 PM EDT
[#40]
Why can't one of the companies put this in a MOBILE?!?! |
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Posted: 5/25/2008 3:17:48 PM EDT
[#41]
Aprs in a mobile? Kenwood TM-D710. |
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Posted: 5/25/2008 3:20:34 PM EDT
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Yea but the Icom does not do aprs it only does the DSTAR gps. As to my knowlege few people have that set up with ARES or SAR groups. APRS can be deployed transparent with little to no user input. Plus most off the shelf hardware works with APRS. |
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Posted: 5/25/2008 3:27:00 PM EDT
[#43]
Not with 6m, 220 and GPS. Preferably with some kind of digital voice option and ruggedized construction. |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 4:31:32 AM EDT
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Kenwood is working on another modular banded radio based off the 710 platform with aprs in it. It will let you choose what two other bands you want with 2 meters. You should have the option of 6m 220 70cm 912 and 1.2. pick two and snap into radio and go. They had a similar platform a few years back but was phased out with newer radios. |
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Posted: 5/26/2008 10:08:26 AM EDT
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That's cool, the 741/742 radios still go for big bucks on ebay so they see the demand. The downside of Kenwood's modular approach is that its just like having three monoband radios in one box, you lose the V+V/U+U flexibility of many dual band radios, and it's more costly than just building everything in. Yaesu's ft8900 quad band probably costs little if any more to manufacture than their ft8800 dual band, with current components and circuit designs tremendously wideband performance is possible especially with the loose specifications for amateur products. What I would really like to see is something more like a IC2820 or maybe ft8900 (I like the "hyper memory" system they inherited from Standard) expanded into a three-wide display, with 2m and 440 available for two each along with 6m & 220. This would allow tremendous flexibility with various combinations of bands... 6/2/2 6/2/220 6/2/440 6/440/440 6/220/440 2/2/220 2/2/440 2/220/440 220/440/440. Or 2/440/and a scan list which could include all 4 bands. 10m FM might also be possible as essentially a freebie, as I suspect it is in the ft8900. Something like Icoms IC2820 which has digital audio and GPS available as an option would be ideal. You mentioned the 900 band - 900 seems like its becoming a lot more popular, probably due to the availability of surplus commercial gear both for operator use as well as repeater building plus available repeater coordinations in major urban areas. The major positive of a modular radio is the ability to add modules for things like the 900 band that aren't feasible to build in to wideband circuits. |
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