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Posted: 11/23/2011 9:32:53 PM EDT
Its time for the broad head debate. What is the best head you have ever shot and what is the worst head you have ever shot.
I personally shoot Slick Trick Magnums. They stay razor sharp, fly perfect, and are reasonably priced. I have to say the worst head I've ever shot was a Rage. Everything about them felt cheap. |
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We think alike.
Even though I killed 9 deer and 2 coyotes with Rage 2-blade broadheads, I wasn't pleased with the lack of penetration. I switched to Slick Tricks this year, and couldn't be more happy. |
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It is not so much for its beauty that the forest makes a claim upon men's hearts, as for that subtle something, that quality of air that emanation from old trees, that so wonderfully changes and renews a weary spirit.
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Unfortunately, I have yet to kill a deer with any broadhead, so I don't exactly have much experience to impart. I currently have a couple 2-blade broadheads that have proven very effective, plus my son won some 3-blade broadheads that have shown themselves to be blood-gushers.
My son's 3-blade Phoenix broadheads by Red Feather Archery are single-bevel instead of dual-bevel and rotate as they enter. I had the misfortune of missing my broadhead target one day while practicing and burying the broadhead in a 4x4 –– all the way up to the insert. I couldn't just wiggle the broadhead out as it had rotated, just as it was supposed to. I had to dig the dang thing out, and there's now a decent hole in that post. There was no damage whatsoever to the broadhead. That rotation is supposed to help keep the wound channel from closing, thus causing more bleeding. I also have the RazorHawk from RFA as well, which is one of my 2-blades, and it, too is single-bevel, causing an S-shaped cut instead of just a slit. My German-Kinetics SilverFlame 125XL is a typical 2-blade broadhead, except it's made of 440B steel, is tough as nails, and has a 1.5" cutting diameter. A 1.5" cutting diameter on a fixed blade is very appealing to me. |
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Originally Posted By mbpike:
Its time for the broad head debate. What is the best head you have ever shot and what is the worst head you have ever shot. I personally shoot Slick Trick Magnums. They stay razor sharp, fly perfect, and are reasonably priced. I have to say the worst head I've ever shot was a Rage. Everything about them felt cheap. Ditto, except I use Slick Trick standards. |
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I just recently switched back to expandables. I have had good results wth the rage broad heads. I've killed 3 deer with them all pass throughs and into the ground. All of which the broad head was still intact with no significant damage. They open an absolutely huge hole in a deer.
I used muzzy 3 blades before the switch to the rage and had 0 problems with them I just fell for the marketing I guess. Before the muzzy I used spitfire 3 blade expandables. I had success with them until I shot a 145/150 incher in Illinios and the broadhead didn't penetrate the shoulder blade. I saw the shaft hanging way out and flopping as the deer ran off and found the broken shaft about 60 yards out. Only about 2 inches of the shaft was missing. Never found the deer or any sign after that. |
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Used to shoot Thunderheads way back when, good solid heads!!
Have shot Magnus 2 blade, 4 blade and the 3 blade Snuffers since 1998. No need to change!!! Yes, you have to be smart enough to sharpen your own, but its easy enough!! Plus, their lifetime warranty is hard to beat!!! |
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Grim Reapers. They fly as true to a field point as I have ever seen. Worst has to be crimson talon. Incredibly inconsistant groupings.
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Switched to the T3 by G5. 3 blade expandable.
Crushed the shoulder bone on a perfectly broadside 200 lb boar. He trotted off 40 yards, sputtered, then dropped. The blood trail was massive. I could see the boar from my chair up against a big Live Oak tree. About 6 or 7 minutes later, a 80 pound sow came out and began eating acorns right about where the boar met my arrow. I quickly loaded another 350 gr. Carbon Express Maxima Hunter with a T3 on it. Ranged her at 32 yards, 5 yards closer than the boar. Pressed my release and hit her double lungs. She hauled ass for the marsh and collapsed about 60 yards from my chair directly behind me in some palmetto bushes. Huge blood trail and an easy track. I'm sold on the T3. Pigs are heavy boned for their size and their heart/ lung area is located a little bit further forward than a deer, so the heart has better protection from archery tackle. If I was to choose a second broadhead it would be an MX3 Muzzy 100 gr. BTW, I gutted both the pigs on the spot and it took me 3.5 hours to drag them back the 3/4 mile to my truck. I need a game cart. |
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Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.
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Rage
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Magnus Snuffer SS....have killed everything I have hit with them.
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Rage 2 blade...
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I like to keep it simple. Muzzy is tried and true and you can find them everywhere, but I do have to say I did have one come apart on a hard, off square shoulder hit. I know... shot placement shot placement- but it does happen. Maybe it was my fault for not using the little tool for tightening. Who knows. I've read nothing but good about the slick tricks and may try them on my elk trip this year. My buddy has used them in Africa a few times and really likes em and hey, if a broke guy is spending 10k on a hunt he's gonna be sure about his gear. One thing about them that I think is a pretty big deal is that they have a steel ferrule. I'd like to know who else has had their broadheads bend or break apart at the ferrule.
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Rage 2 blade, since I started using them I have had 100% recovery.
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I have both muzzy 3 blade 100 gr. and spitfire mechanicals in my quiver.
I have been shooting Muzzy's for the last I don't know how many years...than last year got talked into some Spitfire mechanicals. I bought a three pack...first shot...doe walks ten yards and fallls over, next week I hit an 8pt and he laid out the red carpet all 300 yards he ran...then dropped. both mechanical spitfire broadheads were bent (shaft) and un repairable. sucks that I can use a muzzy over and over and these mechanicals $10 each are shot after one shot... I do like the lethal end of the mechanical, that's why they are still in my quiver. once they are gone I will be a fixed blade guy always. |
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still shooting Thunderheads. All i have ever shot
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Ramcats!
I also have a few Montecs in the quiver. I just couldn't warm up to Rage, but I may try the Ulmer's this year. |
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3 blade Bloodrunner. They fly great and cut huge holes. Lost deer with slick trick and rage.
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Loud mouthed loose cannon.....Now with more ammo
IA, USA
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Normal Rage 2 Blader here, however this year I am going to try the new Rage 2 Blade Xtremes to see what I think
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" I don't sweat, I grease! " ~ FS2000Guy
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Does anyone one use two blade fixed broadheads? I saw some in the store the other day and liked the way they looked, I'm currently using Muzzy MX-3's and have no complaints.
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When you enter a room full of armed men, shoot the first person who makes a move, hostile or otherwise. He has started to think and is therefore dangerous.
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Originally Posted By POW-MIAneverforget: Does anyone one use two blade fixed broadheads? I saw some in the store the other day and liked the way they looked, I'm currently using Muzzy MX-3's and have no complaints. View Quote The RazorHawks by Red feather Archery I mentioned are two-blade single bevel heads. Very strong design, and made from a good stainless steel that takes an edge really well. No more having to buy extra blades. Just sharpen these up and keep right on going. |
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“Truth and freedom either go together hand in hand or together they perish in misery.”
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I started out using the Bear Razors without the bleeder blade, then I switched to thunderheads and had really good luck with them. The last three years I've been using Titepoint Shuttle T locks and have had good luck with them.
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I went with the NAP Killzone COC this year. So far a doe at 18yrds and a buck at less than 10yrds. Neither ran over 30yrds. Very impressed with the wound channel from these broad heads.
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Montec fixed three blade by g5 archery. Same poi as my field points, come scary scarp, and easy to re sharpen. Good results on my only archery kill, a 6 point at 30 yards. Cut a perfect triangular hole through both sides of rib cage
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Rage 2 blade worked well for me.
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Arfcom call sign : Roscoe
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I used slick trick standards for the frst time this year.
took a button buck at 20 yards, It was a pass through, hit both lungs and the liver. He ran 30 feet, stopped, walked another 10 feet and fell over dead. there was lung hanging out the exit hole. |
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Mach
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves.” William Pitt, 1783: |
I'm stuck between three. (All 100gr) Muzzy MX3, QAD Exodus or Slick-Trick
Mags???? Read good and unsatisfactory reviews on all. Shooting Bear Legion - 29" Draw , 65lbs |
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Rage 2 Blade suck shot 3 deer with them not Impressed. The best results I got were with Muzzy 3 blade.
This year I'm using T3's and cant wait to try them out. |
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Always support G5 Montec
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I have always used Spitfires, never lost a deer.
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G5 Striker. 125 gr.
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If not for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable.
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Originally Posted By IIRC:
Ditto, except I use Slick Trick standards. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By IIRC:
Originally Posted By mbpike:
Its time for the broad head debate. What is the best head you have ever shot and what is the worst head you have ever shot. I personally shoot Slick Trick Magnums. They stay razor sharp, fly perfect, and are reasonably priced. I have to say the worst head I've ever shot was a Rage. Everything about them felt cheap. Ditto, except I use Slick Trick standards. same. With FOBs. |
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Mach
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves.” William Pitt, 1783: |
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By IIRC:
Originally Posted By mbpike:
Its time for the broad head debate. What is the best head you have ever shot and what is the worst head you have ever shot. I personally shoot Slick Trick Magnums. They stay razor sharp, fly perfect, and are reasonably priced. I have to say the worst head I've ever shot was a Rage. Everything about them felt cheap. Ditto, except I use Slick Trick standards. same. With FOBs. Lol, same here. Black FOBs and black knocks |
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Originally Posted By Mach:
LOL......Maybe we are long lost brothers. I use Gold Tip Arrows, what do you use? I use green FOBs and lighted knocks, but I can not remember which ones. Either Nocturnals or Luminocks. One of them works with FOBs and the other does not because it requires the arrow shaft to complete the circuit, and has small wires on the bottom. But I made a mod for them to work b using aluminum tape on the FOB before I found that the other brand works with FOBs out of the package. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/14ED5B30-1802-4E08-86E9-A9B77FF38406-1224-000000A0C339928B_zpsdd2606c4.jpg The nock on the right is the one that works without the FOB mod. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/5022F914-EE51-48E1-8D6E-257010924297-1224-000000A0777230ED_zpse8fa7b6e.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By IIRC:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By IIRC:
Originally Posted By mbpike:
Its time for the broad head debate. What is the best head you have ever shot and what is the worst head you have ever shot. I personally shoot Slick Trick Magnums. They stay razor sharp, fly perfect, and are reasonably priced. I have to say the worst head I've ever shot was a Rage. Everything about them felt cheap. Ditto, except I use Slick Trick standards. same. With FOBs. Lol, same here. Black FOBs and black knocks LOL......Maybe we are long lost brothers. I use Gold Tip Arrows, what do you use? I use green FOBs and lighted knocks, but I can not remember which ones. Either Nocturnals or Luminocks. One of them works with FOBs and the other does not because it requires the arrow shaft to complete the circuit, and has small wires on the bottom. But I made a mod for them to work b using aluminum tape on the FOB before I found that the other brand works with FOBs out of the package. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/14ED5B30-1802-4E08-86E9-A9B77FF38406-1224-000000A0C339928B_zpsdd2606c4.jpg The nock on the right is the one that works without the FOB mod. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/5022F914-EE51-48E1-8D6E-257010924297-1224-000000A0777230ED_zpse8fa7b6e.jpg I use Easton Flatline Surgicals. |
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Originally Posted By Mach:
LOL......Maybe we are long lost brothers. I use Gold Tip Arrows, what do you use? I use green FOBs and lighted knocks, but I can not remember which ones. Either Nocturnals or Luminocks. One of them works with FOBs and the other does not because it requires the arrow shaft to complete the circuit, and has small wires on the bottom. But I made a mod for them to work b using aluminum tape on the FOB before I found that the other brand works with FOBs out of the package. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/14ED5B30-1802-4E08-86E9-A9B77FF38406-1224-000000A0C339928B_zpsdd2606c4.jpg The nock on the right is the one that works without the FOB mod. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/5022F914-EE51-48E1-8D6E-257010924297-1224-000000A0777230ED_zpse8fa7b6e.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By IIRC:
Originally Posted By Mach:
Originally Posted By IIRC:
Originally Posted By mbpike:
Its time for the broad head debate. What is the best head you have ever shot and what is the worst head you have ever shot. I personally shoot Slick Trick Magnums. They stay razor sharp, fly perfect, and are reasonably priced. I have to say the worst head I've ever shot was a Rage. Everything about them felt cheap. Ditto, except I use Slick Trick standards. same. With FOBs. Lol, same here. Black FOBs and black knocks LOL......Maybe we are long lost brothers. I use Gold Tip Arrows, what do you use? I use green FOBs and lighted knocks, but I can not remember which ones. Either Nocturnals or Luminocks. One of them works with FOBs and the other does not because it requires the arrow shaft to complete the circuit, and has small wires on the bottom. But I made a mod for them to work b using aluminum tape on the FOB before I found that the other brand works with FOBs out of the package. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/14ED5B30-1802-4E08-86E9-A9B77FF38406-1224-000000A0C339928B_zpsdd2606c4.jpg The nock on the right is the one that works without the FOB mod. http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee259/mach_102/5022F914-EE51-48E1-8D6E-257010924297-1224-000000A0777230ED_zpse8fa7b6e.jpg Nocturnal Thanks, thats good to know. |
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.... did you just congratulate OP on not killing people? -phurba
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I shot Rage for a while...fell into the hype.
Got sick and tired of always putting the blades back in the O-Ring....then they came out with the shock collar....fixed that, but now I have to replace the blades AND the shock collar after a shot(yeah, I know you can re-use them...no thanks). Shoot the NAP Killzone now. No blades coming loose even through thick stuff. No shock collars to worry about, they just work. Blades don't break on normal shots like the Rage seem to do every time. Wound channels are the same. All the benefits, none of the drawbacks. I don't understand why people still shoot rage with better options on the market for the same price or less. |
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Standard slick tricks.
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Used Muzzy replaceable fixed blades last year. Had good results but they took a little tuning to get hitting exactly the same as my field points. On the plus side it got me to get my bow well tuned.
Even on shots that normally wouldn't leave a great blood trail I got good blood. Had a slightly quartering to shot that just barely clipped the shoulder and still got full pass through. Had a heavily quartering away shot that went in just in front of the rear leg, clipped one lung, destroyed the other, and buried itself in the opposite shoulder. No pass through but I got an absolutely brutal blood trail to follow that I only had to follow 50 yards. Changed some stuff on my bow this year and didn't have time to dick around with tuning. Gave the Muzzy's to my dad as he was already hitting spot on with my practice blade with them and I was not. Picked up a pack of 2 blade Rages instead. I already had a pack of rages from years ago from my dad but never used them. There were only 2 left and only 2 broadheads in the quiver, just don't like the idea. Practice tip hits an inch higher than my field points. |
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I'm inline with you, OP. I shot and lost the biggest deer I've seen in the wild last year with a Rage Xtreme, and I shot and lost (later killed on the neighbor's) an 11 point in velvet last September with a Rage Hypodermic. I believe I'm going to bite he bullet and switch to Slick Tricks for next fall.
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I have had reaaly good luck with Wasp Jak- Hammers.
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Does anyone remember the Atom Broadheads? I used those and the head few apart on inside a ram. Worse heads I have ever used.
I have since gone back to just using fixed blade broadheads. Currently using NAP Thunderheads. |
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Originally Posted By talon370:
Does anyone remember the Atom Broadheads? I used those and the head few apart on inside a ram. Worse heads I have ever used. I have since gone back to just using fixed blade broadheads. Currently using NAP Thunderheads. View Quote |
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“Truth and freedom either go together hand in hand or together they perish in misery.”
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Buddy shot a deer complete pass thru with a muzzy trocar quartering away, in behind the leg and out thru the chest, gave the deer 3 hours to bed down and die and we tracked it 2 miles till the blood disappeared.
I shot a deer with an NAP spitfire and complete pass thru with cutting clean thru ribs on both sides. Shot was from 30 yards, deer walked 80 yards and dropped. |
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I'm like fps Russia with a sombrero.
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Picked up some 3-Blade (fixed) Wac 'Em broadheads a few weeks ago when Gander Mountain was closing the doors, figured I would give them a try for $11. They seem to fly just as well as my 100gr field tips. Waiting for a buck to come within 40 yards to try them out. Anyone here used them?
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Anyone tried bi-polar mechanicals?
www.bi-polarbroadheads.com I cant figure out how to hot link sorry. |
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I use Thunderheads. My father in law took four Elk with them easy. 125gr. I may upgrade to the full carbon Montec single piece blades. I am not a fan of mechanical blades.
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When I first started hunting I tried a 3 blade Muzzy fixed-blade Broadhead. I went from shooting quarter-size group to 6-8 inch groups. I tried everything I could to tune those with no success. I quickly retired those and switch to the nap 125 grain Spitfires. I was never fond of how the blades were retained and found them to be a pain to reset and clean. I then found the Grim Reaper razor tips. I've been using those for the past 15 years. Every deer I've shot has dropped within sight, with blood trails that Ray Charles could follow.
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I just ordered some broadheads today, getting ready for hunting season. I am not much for spending a pile of cash for a set of 3 broadheads though. I used thunderheads for years with great results. this year im trying out a fixed three blade. I ordered 24 broadheads for $60 bucks. qhich should be almost a lifetime hunting supply. they are kind of a generic, but I read a few good reviews on them. Not super fancy, but should work well enough, and look to be easily resharpened. I also considered getting some of the killzone mechanicals to try out, and still might.
fixed three blade. Attached File |
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