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Posted: 4/5/2022 10:27:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mike_nds]
We are live with a home page.
Please do not call Palmetto as the CS people have not been brought into the loop yet. https://hr1871.com/ Please direct all questions to this thread instead of starting new ones. I will post all updates here and in the JJE-H&R thread in the retro forum. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:34:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRedBaron: https://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1340967745945_1427049.png Now, WTF is THAT supposed to mean?? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 1:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRedBaron: https://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1340967745945_1427049.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRedBaron: Originally Posted By kabanchik: Originally Posted By mike_nds: I've got requests for all kinds of stuff from you guys. Unfortunately it takes time to get the requests properly submitted, processed, and enabled on the website. Sometimes things don't happen as fast as we would like. Please be patient. I believe I speak for others when I say that what is needed, first of all, is a steady supply of stripped A1 uppers, both black and gray. The loyal customers of, and believers in, Harrington & Richardson Arms, DESERVE this. Many of us have run the gauntlet to snag a lower, with the tacit understanding that uppers would be forthcoming, but only a literal handful have been released thus far. Yet, all this time, we've seen variant upon variant being offered up for sale, even though ONLY the M16A1 was made by H&R back in the day. Maybe, for once, what is needed is a run of, say, 1000 stripped uppers being listed. I, speaking for myself, am damned proud that I was able to build my H&R M16A1 (something which I NEVER dreamed was possible), and I believe MOST of us have been willing to be patient, but that patience is wearing somewhat thin. Mike, my deep admiration for what YOU have accomplished is second to none but, PLEASE, try to do more than simply throw a small bone to the crowd, now and again, by helping us to finish our languishing builds. It is only FAIR. Just my two bits. https://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1340967745945_1427049.png |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:10:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR: No kidding. That was ridiculous. Shortages are a thing now in every industry. Go to a Rolex dealer and bring that attitude with you while demanding a new green Submariner and see what happens. Mike is doing an awesome job! I KNOW that Mike IS doing an ABSOLUTELY awesome job. Kudos to EVERYONE at H&R, BTW. Like I said in my original post.....just MY two bits. Besides, I never DEMANDED anything, only lamenting the state of affairs, that's all, and I never meant to hurt anyone's feelings. I guess I'm a bit edgy today, as my cat in in his death spiral, my wife and I keeping bedside vigil. BTW, I have worn ROLEX watches since I was eighteen years old, having paid $375.00 for a stainless Daytona Cosmograph, back in the day, That's how old I am, LOL. Again, my apologies for the misunderstanding. I NEVER meant to ruffle anyone's feathers. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:10:28 PM EDT
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There are some uppers on gunbroker. GO get em.
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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:32:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Speaking of requests... 14.5" lightweight barrel assembly (not 14.7") .750" barrels without F FSBs mid length "A2" handguard that is identical to your GI quality carbine and rifle handguards Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By mike_nds: I've got requests for all kinds of stuff from you guys. Unfortunately it takes time to get the requests properly submitted, processed, and enabled on the website. Sometimes things don't happen as fast as we would like. Please be patient. Speaking of requests... 14.5" lightweight barrel assembly (not 14.7") .750" barrels without F FSBs mid length "A2" handguard that is identical to your GI quality carbine and rifle handguards Mike has stated in the past that they aren’t going to offer 14.5” pencil barrels or M4 barrels. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 2:38:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRedBaron: https://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1340967745945_1427049.png   Attached File |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 4:31:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capt-Planet]
[#7]
I'm glad that I was able to get a complete XM-177 upper a little while ago. I was looking for an E1 upper, but they went out of stock. I just went for the slick side one and I'm super happy with it.
Went to the range to zero the sights and do some drills. I call it my LRRP LARP rifle. It's not a clone, just outwardly similar to some retro rifles.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 4:49:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capt-Planet: I'm glad that I was able to get a complete XM-177 upper a little while ago. I was looking for an E1 upper, but they went out of stock. I just went for the slick side one and I'm super happy with it. Went to the range to zero the sights and do some drills. I call it my LRRP LARP rifle. It's not a clone, just outwardly similar to some retro rifles. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125943/1000002547_jpg-3176574.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125943/1000002436_jpg-3176576.JPG Doing the same thing, Have an SBR a2 lower going to make an xm177e2 with. THose look great. |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 5:48:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: Mike has stated in the past that they aren’t going to offer 14.5” pencil barrels or M4 barrels. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: Originally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By mike_nds: I've got requests for all kinds of stuff from you guys. Unfortunately it takes time to get the requests properly submitted, processed, and enabled on the website. Sometimes things don't happen as fast as we would like. Please be patient. Speaking of requests... 14.5" lightweight barrel assembly (not 14.7") .750" barrels without F FSBs mid length "A2" handguard that is identical to your GI quality carbine and rifle handguards Mike has stated in the past that they aren’t going to offer 14.5” pencil barrels or M4 barrels. I didn't know that. Do you know why? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 7:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capt-Planet: I'm glad that I was able to get a complete XM-177 upper a little while ago. I was looking for an E1 upper, but they went out of stock. I just went for the slick side one and I'm super happy with it. Went to the range to zero the sights and do some drills. I call it my LRRP LARP rifle. It's not a clone, just outwardly similar to some retro rifles. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125943/1000002547_jpg-3176574.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/125943/1000002436_jpg-3176576.JPG Dude! Sweet XM. A 10.5? |
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Posted: 4/2/2024 7:32:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: I didn't know that. Do you know why? something to do with the 14.7" P&W with A1 or A2 flash hider comes out to ATF-legal 16". can be sold as rifles. the 14.5" doesn't. |
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Posted: 4/3/2024 3:24:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: something to do with the 14.7" P&W with A1 or A2 flash hider comes out to ATF-legal 16". can be sold as rifles. the 14.5" doesn't. Bingo ! |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/4/2024 11:45:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kenhk117]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Bingo ! Hey Mike thank you for all the work you and your team put in! Is there any plans to do a 727 or XM4 with an FN M4 profile barrel? Kinda like the A2s you guys did last year. I picked one up and love it. Now I wanna add to the collection. 
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Posted: 4/5/2024 11:35:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Bingo ! Is this why your separate 723 uppers still have p/w on them? Just streamlining production so you can slap them on the rifle lowers? |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 12:19:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Bingo ! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mike_nds: Originally Posted By x248716x: something to do with the 14.7" P&W with A1 or A2 flash hider comes out to ATF-legal 16". can be sold as rifles. the 14.5" doesn't. Bingo ! Hmm. Well, I'll keep my hopes up that you will offer a 14.5" in the future. |
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Posted: 4/5/2024 6:37:58 PM EDT
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Heck, I'm just waiting for the DOE clone 9mm pistol
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Posted: 4/6/2024 9:55:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bison93: Is this why your separate 723 uppers still have p/w on them? Just streamlining production so you can slap them on the rifle lowers? Yes, we already have too many SKU’s |
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Posted: 4/6/2024 11:29:28 AM EDT
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Are you going to have any 9mm uppers in gray available soon? It’s the only part that I need to complete my build.
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/6/2024 1:55:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: Heck, I'm just waiting for the DOE clone 9mm pistol I can’t hardly wait for the DOE clone either. I hope it comes soon! |
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Posted: 4/6/2024 10:10:09 PM EDT
[#20]
I need a replacement set of the 7 hole skinny carbine handguards that come on the TIA upper. I'm unable to locate them on the PSA website.
Any help, please? |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 1:05:29 AM EDT
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Any idea when the complete xm177e2 rifles will be available again through PSA?
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Posted: 4/7/2024 8:37:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: I need a replacement set of the 7 hole skinny carbine handguards that come on the TIA upper. I'm unable to locate them on the PSA website. Any help, please? You can find them all over. JSE, model 1 sales are two examples. LGS has a stack of them (not m4) that I looked through hoping to find some 6 hole, alas no luck. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 10:50:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mtomso7464: You can find them all over. JSE, model 1 sales are two examples. LGS has a stack of them (not m4) that I looked through hoping to find some 6 hole, alas no luck. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mtomso7464: Originally Posted By tortilla-flats: I need a replacement set of the 7 hole skinny carbine handguards that come on the TIA upper. I'm unable to locate them on the PSA website. Any help, please? You can find them all over. JSE, model 1 sales are two examples. LGS has a stack of them (not m4) that I looked through hoping to find some 6 hole, alas no luck. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 11:03:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: seand1111]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: I need a replacement set of the 7 hole skinny carbine handguards that come on the TIA upper. I'm unable to locate them on the PSA website. Any help, please? @tortilla-flats i have a few sets at home. you cover shipping, $10 and I will send you a set. if you are interested, PM me and I get send you pics if you so desire. Skinny 7 hole. **Edit, just saw that you ordered a set from Luth. Offer still stands if you want to cancel that. ** |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 3:56:04 PM EDT
[#25]
bought a bunch of psa charging handles when they were on sale cheap so I blasted 2 and moly coated them Colt Grey
not bad  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 3:59:44 PM EDT
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compared with original psa black and a H&R grey my 2 in the middle , I Used one of mine and the one H&R on the uppers (close enough)
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Posted: 4/7/2024 4:06:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pipemonkey: I can’t hardly wait for the DOE clone either. I hope it comes soon! I haven't been here for a while but I went digging backwards several pages and haven't seen anything about the DOE's, do we have any kind of info or projected timeline on these uppers yet? |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 4:12:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seand1111]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Droodog: compared with original psa black and a H&R grey my 2 in the middle , I Used one of mine and the one H&R on the uppers (close enough) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494759/charging_handles_2_jpg-3181302.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494759/charging_handles_3_jpg-3181303.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494759/charging_handles_4_jpg-3181304.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/494759/charging_handles_5_jpg-3181305.JPG What moly product did you use? @Droogog |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 4:14:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seand1111]
[#29]
Did someone say DOE….
 It’s an H&R lower…. Oh, and upper receiver. 
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Posted: 4/7/2024 4:17:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seand1111: @tortilla-flats i have a few sets at home. you cover shipping, $10 and I will send you a set. if you are interested, PM me and I get send you pics if you so desire. Skinny 7 hole. **Edit, just saw that you ordered a set from Luth. Offer still stands if you want to cancel that. ** |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 4:39:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seand1111: What moly product did you use? @Droogog Norrell's moly resin Colt Grey |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 4:47:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Droodog: Norrell's moly resin Colt Grey Thanks. The color is nice and I need to take care of a few that I have. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 5:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tortilla-flats: I appreciate the offer. I'll use the incoming set I ordered. No problem. |
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Posted: 4/7/2024 10:28:00 PM EDT
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Mike ... Quick question. A buddy of mine was wanting to do a grey XM-16 in 1/7. Any idea of a restock timeframe?
XM-16 in 1/7 |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 1:32:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seand1111: Did someone say DOE…. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/24834/IMG_0386-3181320.jpg It’s an H&R lower…. Oh, and upper receiver. Your not helping!
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Posted: 4/8/2024 3:28:10 PM EDT
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D. O. E.
D. O. E. D. O. E. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 3:57:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: seand1111]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pipemonkey: Your not helping! Is this better?  Shitty lighting, Husky hair, and all that |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 4:08:31 PM EDT
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This is a little off topic, but does anyone know if there were any 635s built using uppers with the hole for a gas tube? I’ve been waiting for what seems like forever for a gray upper for a 635, I have a spare gray upper but it has the hole for a gas tube.
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Posted: 4/8/2024 4:32:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paradude54: This is a little off topic, but does anyone know if there were any 635s built using uppers with the hole for a gas tube? I’ve been waiting for what seems like forever for a gray upper for a 635, I have a spare gray upper but it has the hole for a gas tube. IDK if Colt ever did or not, I would imagine prototypes probably were made using existing parts. The one I have above uses an H&R non 9mm upper for the 635 and their 9mm upper for the 633. Mike noted some differences between the 9mm vs 556 upper besides the hole. It seemed pretty negligible to me. But one difference was the width of the carrier channel inside the upper needed to be widened with a couple of swipes of a file where the magazine inserts into it. Its doable with the non-9mm upper. Just be aware you may have to widen that a bit for the magazines to fit. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 5:04:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seand1111: IDK if Colt ever did or not, I would imagine prototypes probably were made using existing parts. The one I have above uses an H&R non 9mm upper for the 635 and their 9mm upper for the 633. Mike noted some differences between the 9mm vs 556 upper besides the hole. It seemed pretty negligible to me. But one difference was the width of the carrier channel inside the upper needed to be widened with a couple of swipes of a file where the magazine inserts into it. Its doable with the non-9mm upper. Just be aware you may have to widen that a bit for the magazines to fit. Thanks. Might be time to shave a few thousandths on a mill. |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 7:26:23 PM EDT
[#41]
@mike_nds Any plans on doing COTS M16A1 marked lowers for 653 builds?
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Posted: 4/8/2024 9:23:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seand1111: Is this better? https://i.imgur.com/Wgg5xxs.jpg Shitty lighting, Husky hair, and all that Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By seand1111: Originally Posted By Pipemonkey: Your not helping! Is this better? https://i.imgur.com/Wgg5xxs.jpg Shitty lighting, Husky hair, and all that No, that's not helping either.......but I got a chance to fire an F/A Colt Subgun in Vegas and at the risk of being accused of heresy, I liked it better than the MP5 |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 9:46:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Akin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cyclone: No, that's not helping either.......but I got a chance to fire an F/A Colt Subgun in Vegas and at the risk of being accused of heresy, I liked it better than the MP5 Heresy? Didn’t the Colt 9mm AR essentially replace the MP5 with, well, nearly everyone? Until 9mm SMGs were simply replaced by SBRs altogether? |
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Posted: 4/8/2024 9:57:35 PM EDT
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I don’t know about the other branches of the military or other SOF units, but we were using MP5s up until the CQBR came into existence.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2024 3:47:02 AM EDT
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I just joined the forum after browsing this thread, the 601 photo reference archive and a few other goldmine threads over the last couple weeks. I am very deep into the pre 1963 AR15 rabbit hole and I have a bunch of builds buzzing around in my head, some of them blasphemous
I ordered a 601 grey lower the other day and I'm patiently waiting for the slick uppers to come back in stock. I remember like ten years ago being stationed overseas browsing the old NoDak Spud website, just salivating over the stuff they put out. I seem to remember long wait times and the aftermarket small parts market was a lot smaller too. It's almost too easy to build whatever you want now! I wanted to thank H&R and PSA for what they're doing for the notoriously picky and hard to please retro community, and ushering in what I consider a golden era for cloning. Just bravo, seriously. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 8:51:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Paradude54: I don’t know about the other branches of the military or other SOF units, but we were using MP5s up until the CQBR came into existence. We were using MP5s (mission dependent) until I had a break in service from 2003 to 2005. When I came back, they had been phased out for the most part. The SDs were still getting taken out occasionally after that. Never saw a Colt 9mm. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 4/9/2024 1:28:30 PM EDT
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Not sure what the military was up to. Should have specified that I was talking about law enforcement.
And, yes, I am sure there are exceptions and little departments that couldn't afford to buy new weapons. But the MP-5 was state of the art sixties technology, and it was being replaced in the nineties. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:31:04 PM EDT
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Anyone else having an issue with the green arrow and this thread?
It keeps taking me to the top of the page, it’s annoying. |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:44:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: Anyone else having an issue with the green arrow and this thread? It keeps taking me to the top of the page, it’s annoying. if I refresh it usually takes me to my last post on the page and I have to scroll to the bottom again |
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Posted: 4/9/2024 2:56:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sputnik556: Anyone else having an issue with the green arrow and this thread? It keeps taking me to the top of the page, it’s annoying. There's a page numbering bug, we're over a hundred pages, it will glitch occasionally. |
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