I bought them for my HK416 clone I’m building and they do not work with that upper as well. In back of brass deflector, no finger placement for RH charge lever. Won’t go directly over deflector without modifying sight or upper. In front of deflector, acts as deflector. Not keen on the option of putting on rail, like the longer sight radius. Not sure if I will keep them. I have an MR762 I need to pick up this weekend, may work on that with the longer action?