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Posted: 12/20/2010 8:59:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0:

The Recce platform was something that sprung up within the NSW and 5th SFG communities that first became the Special Purpose Receiver built by Crane, which was supposed to be installed on any M4 lower. After a time when the perfect storm of the users wanting a match-grade trigger and the bolt-bounce issue was identified, the Special Purpose Receiver morphed into a complete rifle that was type-classified as the Mk12.  

Mk12: A BRIEF HISTORY (as authored by "LGT" & "FL")

Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle (SPR)

Scoped versions of the M16 rifle existed as far back as the 1960s. Like nearly all historic military rifles, the M16 went through decades of efforts to improve its accuracy, both in the military and civilian marksmanship communities.

The need for the SPR dates back to the late 1980s and early 1990s when the 7.62mm M21 sniper rifle, a semi-automatic weapon of Vietnam vintage, was replaced by the M24 sniper rifle, a bolt action weapon. The M24 was originally specified to be a .300 Winchester Magnum, but the Army decided to field it in 7.62 NATO for a variety of economic reasons. This left the M24 in the unenviable position of being the worst of both worlds in the eyes of snipers at the time, since it lost the fast-shooing, semiautomatic capability of the M21, but did not gain the range advantage of the .300WM. This compromise left a vacant requirement for a fast-shooting semi-automatic sniper rifle. This need was most apparent in the US Army Special Forces (SF) community, since the other commands within the Special Operations Forces structure filled that need with Knights Armament Corporation's SR-25 sniper rifle.

Army SF, being prohibited by its leadership from procuring the SR-25, sought the next best alternative, namely a Special Purpose Receiver (SPR) kit to convert the Army SF M4 carbines into highly accurate rifles. In late 1998, at the request of SFC Steve Holland of 5th Special Forces Group, and the approval of the SOPMOD joint IPT, the Special Operations Peculiar Modifications (SOPMOD) Program Manager, Troy Smith, authorized the purchase of 5 sets of commercial items as an SPR experiment.

The original requirement was for USASOC, mainly the SF Groups, as WARCOM had the MK11, 7.62mm system. Once the SPR requirement was developed and demonstrated through experimentation, most of the other commands in USSOCOM added themselves to the Basis of Issue Plan (BOIP). The USSOCOM requirement for the SPR, with improved ammunition, was approved in July 1999, as part of the SOPMOD Kit, Operational Requirements Document, Version 5 (ORD 5).  

Further initial development included several variants of the SPR and new ammunition that were compatible with the M4 carbine's lower receiver. It was found that standard issue M855 5.56mm ammunition was not consistent enough to meet the requirement. In 2000, based on an upgrade requirement to provide a match-grade trigger to the design, Mr. Paul Miller, the SPR project manager, discovered an opportunity to pick through over 15,000 M16A1s that had been sent to Crane for destruction. Realizing that these M16A1 rifles, some of which were virtually new, could be used as "free lumber" to build full SPR weapons, Paul selected several thousand rifles to be set aside for the new SPR project. The SPR underwent a minor but significant name change, with the R having originally stood for "Receiver" now standing for "Rifle"

The new weapon system was worthless without a matching round of ammunition to obtain the performance required. The PEO-SP USSOCOM authorized the new round that became Mk262 as part of the Mk12 system in August 2000. Paul Miller and his SPR team refined the 77-grain prototype ammunition and built approximately 124 SPR Rifles in the summer of 2001. These were finished just in time to ship out to Army SF in late October 2001, to be used in the first invasion of Afghanistan. The SPR rifles were extremely well-received, and the SOF combat units ordered hundreds more.  

In May 2002, USSOCOM removed the Mk12 and other complete weapons projects from the SOPMOD Program and placed them under the newly-formed USSOCOM Weapons Program. The fielded weapons included two versions (Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle Mod0 and Mod1). Fielding has since been structured for Mk12 Mod1 Special Purpose Rifle only. This rifle is used by Joint USSOCOM Commands and the USMC in combination with M262 (AA53, 77 grain) ammunition. Formal fielding of the full-rate production version of the Mk12 rifle and ammunition occurred in May 2003 and was completed in FY '04.  

In 2012, as the decade of war on terrorism was winding down and the SCAR weapon system began replacing the requirement for the Mk12, USSOCOM and Naval Special Warfare divested themselves of the Mk12 weapons system, and the Mk12 is now being looked at to fill a Designated Marksman Role within Brown Water Navy commands.
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The following parts lists and substitution parts was compiled by lancecriminal86 over the course of a LOT of research. Read up and pay attention!

Below are the 100% .mil-spec parts lists to build a true SPR or Mk12 clone. Some of these parts are no longer manufactured and will require much effort and money to locate through forums and online brokers. Keep in mind the rifles were built off donor M16A1s, hence the prevalent A1 parts in the lower receivers and the BCGs. They were also first configured using parts available from 1998-2004, and most are inferior in some ways to newer designs. If this bothers you too much, STOP NOW.

The rifles were issued as a kit in a Pelican 1700 case with cutouts. The kits included the rifle with suppressor, optic, bipod, an Eagle TAS-1 UMSS sling (unobtanium and also absolute crap), with a Dewey 1-piece cleaning rod plus Otis cleaning kit, and a cutout for magazines. An operator's manual was also included, however these have not been officially released for public consumption. However, the manuals are out there, and some companies building Mk12 uppers include one. Whether these are official .mil operator's manuals or specially made is currently unclear as the manual itself still contains language that it is not for distribution.

- Alternate .mil-spec parts due to NFA, NLA parts, or changes in name/markings for current production in [brackets]

- Extra notes about parts or availability are in (parenthesis)

LOWER
Lower receivers were standard across the SPR/Mk12 variants and the only variations would be between grips, stocks, and buffers. Most were marked either Colt or GM Hydramatic. All other parts were the same in regards to the lower parts. One caveat is the trigger, as the program originally selected the Knight's Armament 2-stage Full Auto Match trigger. Later on, some issues regarding negligent discharges occurred, and Geissele SSF triggers ultimately found their way into the Mk12 family. Whether 100% of all Mk12s eventually received the Geissele trigger isn't clear, so either is acceptable.
  • Lower: M16A1 pattern [Nodak Spud NDSA1 or 80% re-profiled/finished/engraved]
  • Trigger: Knight's 2-Stage Full Auto Match Trigger or Geissele SSF [KAC semi-auto Match or Geissele SSA/SSA-E]
  • Grip: A1, A2, ERGO Original
  • Stock: Originally issued with A1 stocks, both solid D and trapdoor E types; as A1 stocks dwindled, A2 were used; ModH rifles rebuilt with Ace SOCOM stocks
  • Small parts: Standard M16A1 parts

UPPER
The upper receivers, which ultimately differentiate the four variants of the Mk12, have the most variation between each other.


Early SPR/Mod0
  • Upper: Colt, Diemaco, or Armalite marked, flat top, M4 feed-ramps
  • Barrel: Douglas 416r SS, 18" SPR contour, 1/7 twist, flats milled for PRi FSB (Compass Lake, Centurion Arms, High Caliber Sales, and PRi can all supply barrels that meet the appropriate spec minus FSB flats)
  • BCG: Colt M-16
  • Handguard: Precision Reflex Gen I carbon fiber free-float Handguard, rifle length (identified by button-head screws and one vent hole near barrel nut on lower half; no heat shields)
  • A.R.M.S. #38 SPR MOD Sleeve (either the PEQ version or with uneven spacing on the front  but not the full 1913 railed version)
  • FSB: PRi early folding front sight base and gas manifold, set-screw, with elevation wheel
  • Charging handle: PRi Gas Buster M-84 with military latch
  • Muzzle device: OPS Inc 12th Model brake/collar, and 12th Model suppressor [Allen Engineering AEM5 and brake/collar]
  • Rear iron sight: A.R.M.S. #40
  • Scope rings: A.R.M.S. #22 Medium rings, #22 Tactical Ring Cap and #22 Tactical Ring Rail (rings should not include "lever-stop" hump as produced later by A.R.M.S.)
  • Optic: Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10x40mm LR, M3 turrets, illuminated Mil-Dot reticle (use .308 turret) [Leupold LR/T 3.5-10x40 LR, M3 turrets, Illuminated Mil-Dot reticle]
  • Bipod: Versa-Pod with A.R.M.S. #42, or a Harris with A.R.M.S. #32 (Versa-Pod far inferior to Harris)
Late Mod0
  • Upper: Colt or Diemaco marked, flat top, M4 feed-ramps
  • Barrel: Douglas 416r SS, 18" SPR contour, 1/7 twist, flats milled for PRi FSB (Compass Lake, Centurion Arms, High Caliber Sales, and PRi can all supply barrels that meet the appropriate spec minus FSB flats)
  • BCG: Colt M-16.
  • Handguard: Precision Reflex Gen III carbon fiber free-float handguard, rifle length
  • A.R.M.S. #38 SPR-PEQ-2-3 Sleeve
  • FSB: PRi folding FSB, set-screw, .750 (original production had PRi's full address engraved on sight tower; those engraved with "PRi USA" are later manufacture)
  • Charging handle: PRi Gas Buster M-84 with military latch
  • Muzzle device: OPS Inc. 12th Model brake/collar, and 12th Model suppressor [Allen Engineering AEM5 and brake/collar]
  • Rear iron sight: A.R.M.S. #40
  • Scope Rings: A.R.M.S. #22 Medium rings (rings should not include "lever-stop" hump as produced later by A.R.M.S.)
  • Optic: Leupold 3-9x36mm TS-30, Mk4 MR/T 2.5-8x36mm TS-30A2, M2 turrets with Mk262 BDC, illuminated TMR reticle
  • Bipod: Harris with either A.R.M.S. #32 or KAC RAS bipod adapter
SPR/A, SPR/B, Mod1
  • Upper: Colt or Diemaco marked, flat top, M4 feed-ramps
  • Barrel: Douglas 416r SS, 18" SPR contour, 1/7 twist, flats milled for PRi FSB (Compass Lake, Centurion Arms, High Caliber Sales, and PRi can all supply barrels that meet the appropriate spec minus FSB flats)
  • BCG: Colt M-16
  • Handguard: Knight's Armament M4 Match FF RAS, rifle length (now called the SR15/16 Match FF RAS)
  • Gas block: NSWC Crane pattern (Badger Ordnance parkerized/NSN version is correct, has open front of gas tube hole)
  • Charging handle: PRi Gas Buster M-84 with military latch
  • Muzzle device: OPS Inc. 12th Model brake/collar, and 12th Model suppressor [Allen Engineering AEM5 and brake/collar]
  • Scope rings: A.R.M.S. #22 High rings (A.R.M.S. rings should not include "lever-stop" hump as produced later by A.R.M.S.)
  • Optic: Leupold Mk4 MR/T 2.5-8x36mm TS-30A2, M2 turrets with Mk262 BDC, illuminated TMR reticle or NightForce 2.5-10x24 (optionally with NightForce rings)
  • Bipod: Harris with KAC RAS bipod adapter (BRM-S, A.R.M.S. #32 could still optionally be used)

ModH, Mod "Holland"

  • Upper: Colt or Diemaco marked, flat top, M4 feed-ramps
  • Barrel: Noveske 16" Recon, mid-length gas system, profiled for OPS Inc. 12th Model brake/collar (will require aftermarket contouring of most barrels)
  • BCG: Colt M-16
  • Handguard: Precision Reflex Gen III carbon fiber free-float handguard, FDE, rifle length
  • Charging handle: PRi Gas Buster M-84 with military latch
  • Muzzle Device: OPS. Inc. 12th Model brake/collar, and 12th Model suppressor [Allen Engineering AEM5 and brake/collar]
  • Scope Rings: A.R.M.S. #22 Medium rings on PRi recce rail (rings should not include "lever-stop" hump as produced later by A.R.M.S.) or LaRue LT-104 SPR mount
  • Optic: Leupold 3-9x36mm TS-30, Mk4 MR/T 2.5-8x36mm TS-30A2, M2 turrets with Mk262 BDC, illuminated TMR reticle, Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10x40mm LR, M3 turrets, illuminated Mil-Dot reticle (use .308 turret) [Leupold LR/T 3.5-10x40mm LR, M3 turrets, illuminated Mil-Dot reticle]; S&B Short-Dot
  • Bipod: Harris with either A.R.M.S. #32 or KAC RAS bipod adapter
  • Iron sights: (apparently PRI were supplied but never used)

In the Wild
Naturally, once these rifles were issued to units, operators and even Marines used various non-issued parts. Here is a short summary of what has been seen:

Early SPR/Mod0:
Both Leupold 3.5-10x40mm and 3-9x36mm scopes have been used. Many have had carbine stocks like the old CAR-style, enhanced M4, SOPMOD Gen I, or even the Tactical DuoStock swapped on.

Mod1:
One 3rd SFG-issued rifle pictured with SSgt Robert J. Miller (MoH recipient) used an A.R.M.S #36 S-EX 5.56mm rail, and a Leupold M3X 10x fixed-power scope, possibly pulled from an M-24 or SR-25 rifle. Another has been seen with a Magpul PRS, LaRue mount, and a Premier Reticles 3-15x used by an AMU shooter, and a similar rifle was pictured on a FOB in a very posed-looking photo. Further, a USMC-issued Mod1 was seen using #22 Medium rings instead of High rings, and a LaRue mount has been spotted as well. Grips have varied from the usual A1, A2, and ERGO, and at least one Magpul MIAD has been used. As with the Mod0s, carbine stocks like the SOPMOD and M4 have been used on Mod1s.

ModH:
The Mod "Holland" was already a small-batch configuration, but even as soon as they were issued to 5th SFG units, some Ace SOCOM stocks were replaced with Magpul ACS and CTR stocks. Optics are basically anything existing in the unit's inventory, from S&B ShortDots still in the system, the 3-9x and 3.5-10x Leupold scopes from earlier Mod0s, and there's even a photo of an ELCAN on a Mod1 floating around. No non-magnified optics like EOTechs or regular Aimpoint M2/M4s, but Micros have been seen on offset mounts. Backup iron sights, as a whole, were almost entirely left unmounted. Grips were again the same usual selection.


Parts Alternatives for Clone Building
Many parts are rare, expensive, and/or both. Despite this, there are some alternatives to a 100% pure clone that will still provide the same visual look and performance. While not a museum-grade clone, most would be hard-pressed to discern the difference. Just know there are those of us out there that will haze and peer-pressure you into further moving your build towards a true clone.

Barrel:
Popular options are the White Oak Armament SPR barrel (rifle gas), BCM's SPR barrel, Rainier's Match and Ultramatch offerings (ensure it's the SPR contour with 12th Model profile), Ballistic Advantage's SPR barrel. Compass Lake Engineering can also spin a Mk12 profiled barrel with a Criterion chrome-lined blank, or even a Krieger, which was one of the original contenders for the program. The DPMS Mk12 barrels are NOT properly profiled for a clone.

Optics & Rings:
In the case of the Leupold 3-9x or 3.5-10x, it's generally okay to go for a non-illuminated version of either, sometimes with M1 or other turrets and reticles. As far as the NightForce scope, the 2.5-10x24mm is not generally released to the public anymore (with one recent exception through Sniper's Hide), so many use the 32mm or even 42mm versions with the #22 High rings. As for the rings, any of the recent produced A.R.M.S. #22s with the lever-stop humps are functionally the same, the desire for non-lever-stops is purely aesthetic when going for the most authentic look. As LaRue LT-104s have been seen in use, it is justifiable to use one depending on whether you have a specific rifle you want to copy, or even just if you absolutely cannot acquire #22 High rings.

A.R.M.S. #38 SWAN Sleeve:
The #38 family of sleeves are no longer available. Finding them secondhand usually cost $250-$300 easy, more for rarer early variants. Fortunately, PRi's copies of the sleeves look and function almost identically, with minor visual differences. PRi and other builders supply these currently for complete Mod0 builds.

FSB:
While the set-screw version of PRi's FSB is spec, most use the cross-bolt, clamp-style version. They are extremely robust, and when aligned and torqued, have been shown to hold strong enough that you'll probably shear your barrel extension pin or upper before it budges. This is mainly how Mod0 uppers are supplied by most vendors, including PRi themselves.

Suppressor, Brake/Collar:
Diverging from the OPS Inc. or AEM brake and collar will get you MAJOR flak. Trust me, I've been running an AAC SPR/M4 for years now and it took a LONG time to not get clubbed every time I posted it. The Allen Engineering AEM5 is basically the current production of the OPS Inc. 12th Model, as they were originally made by Ron Allen and his team in the first place. Only minor differences separate original OPS Inc. cans from AE cans, and these are only obvious to trained eyes.

As far as the rest, you can swap Colt parts out for any other .mil-spec parts, like BCM, DD, CMT, etc. Any billet uppers/lowers, funky BCG coatings, extended bolt releases, etc. are extremely frowned upon. Remember, once you start going down the path of building a "better" rifle rather than what was spec, you're quickly beyond clone territory and would have been better off building a custom 16" or 20" rifle. Cloning is generally viewed as all-in or not at all.


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Complete Mk12 Mod0 / Mod1 Uppers
Bravo Company Manufacturing
High Caliber Sales
Precision Reflex Inc.


Specific Mk12 Tech
Augee's side-by-side comparison of the original ARMS SWAN Sleeve and PRI reproduction PEQ Sleeves: bottom of p136
KOBK's side-by-side comparison of PRI Gen I, II, and III handguards, and Gen I and Gen II FSBs, and SWANs: middle of p137
Augee's Mod1 gas block tech: top half of p357
Glass1's Early Mod0 photo breakdown: middle of p449
tamboi's Leupold Vari-X, TS30, and TS30A2 scope history/lineage, and part numbers, p.792


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As of 16 May 2024, Ron Allen is still making custom parts for his suppressors:
Originally Posted By k31user:

I still make custom stuff.
1-530-742-3248
[email protected]

RonA
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Anyone know off the top of their head the Butler Creek cover sizes for a TA30-A2?
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Obj 13.  However, you have soften it in warm water to mash it on.  I tried 14 but it was slightly loose.

Eye 19 is perfect.
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I need one as well.  I just took dimensions from the stud in my KAC bipod mount, I was going to machine a copy on the lathe. If it works out, I will make you one.
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10-4 that be awesome
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For anyone who owns an issued Pelican case for their MK12, were they only black or did they also issue tan?
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For anyone who owns an issued Pelican case for their MK12, were they only black or did they also issue tan?
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No idea but mine and any others I've seen pictured have been black.
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I need one as well.  I just took dimensions from the stud in my KAC bipod mount, I was going to machine a copy on the lathe. If it works out, I will make you one.
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Here’s one that I presume is real.  I bought it used so one never knows.  But these are some dimensions if need to ensure the bipod stud is identical.  Pictured next to a newer mount:







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Here’s one that I presume is real.  I bought it used so one never knows.  But these are some dimensions if need to ensure the bipod stud is identical.  Pictured next to a newer mount:


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That is exactly how I am going to make mine; the new ones are MIM.  My stud dimensions are almost identical, 0.730" x 0.305 on the flats with a DIA of 0.365.

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Just saw some A.R.M.S high rings on fleabay with a $450 buy it now. Eeek! I wish I bought some 10 years ago.
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Just saw some A.R.M.S high rings on fleabay with a $450 buy it now. Eeek! I wish I bought some 10 years ago.
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If legit NLS Rings that’d be the going rate bro
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If legit NLS Rings that’d be the going rate bro
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Forgive me but I tend to forget things sometimes. I assume NLS stands for No Lever Stop. The rings in the picture do indeed have the lever stop.
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Forgive me but I tend to forget things sometimes. I assume NLS stands for No Lever Stop. The rings in the picture do indeed have the lever stop.
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If legit NLS Rings that’d be the going rate bro

Forgive me but I tend to forget things sometimes. I assume NLS stands for No Lever Stop. The rings in the picture do indeed have the lever stop.

You are correct. Mounts Plus has (or had) 22Hs for $150. I just got a set in today.
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Forgive me but I tend to forget things sometimes. I assume NLS stands for No Lever Stop. The rings in the picture do indeed have the lever stop.
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Yeah, it means no lever stop. A lot of people who aren't into cloning will see NLS #22s go for $400+ and think their new production ones with the lever stops are worth the same because they don't know the difference
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Does anyone have a line on a #40L?? I missed one on the EE a couple weeks ago.  I have a minty wingless #40L if anyone wants to trade like for like.  
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I need one as well.  I just took dimensions from the stud in my KAC bipod mount, I was going to machine a copy on the lathe. If it works out, I will make you one.
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Anybody have an extra KAC Picatinny Sling Swivel that I can hook my Uncle mikes to?  I have NEW Unopened KAC T1/2 Batt Cap and the the actual swivel pin assembly just not the mount?  Trade Trade Trade

BTW:  I thought I could take one of my qd mounts and yes the swivel pin fits but the nut does not?  Maybe I find a smaller nut?


I need one as well.  I just took dimensions from the stud in my KAC bipod mount, I was going to machine a copy on the lathe. If it works out, I will make you one.
The Asian airsoft copy swivel/bipod studs fit in the KAC brackets.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/196140486045

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You are correct. Mounts Plus has (or had) 22Hs for $150. I just got a set in today.
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Originally Posted By RV8guy:
Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH:



If legit NLS Rings that'd be the going rate bro

Forgive me but I tend to forget things sometimes. I assume NLS stands for No Lever Stop. The rings in the picture do indeed have the lever stop.

You are correct. Mounts Plus has (or had) 22Hs for $150. I just got a set in today.

Brownells has some in stock as well
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Does anyone have a line on a #40L?? I missed one on the EE a couple weeks ago.  I have a minty wingless #40L if anyone wants to trade like for like.  
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Rock River Arms has the #40 A2 and #40L on their site
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You are correct. Mounts Plus has (or had) 22Hs for $150. I just got a set in today.
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Originally Posted By RV8guy:
Originally Posted By AWHAILYEAH:



If legit NLS Rings that’d be the going rate bro

Forgive me but I tend to forget things sometimes. I assume NLS stands for No Lever Stop. The rings in the picture do indeed have the lever stop.

You are correct. Mounts Plus has (or had) 22Hs for $150. I just got a set in today.


Damn Ebay and GunBroker on the stupid!!
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Obj 13.  However, you have soften it in warm water to mash it on.  I tried 14 but it was slightly loose.

Eye 19 is perfect.
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solid copy.  Thank you!
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Rock River Arms has the #40 A2 and #40L on their site
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THANKS, I ordered one this morning!
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Yeah, it means no lever stop. A lot of people who aren't into cloning will see NLS #22s go for $400+ and think their new production ones with the lever stops are worth the same because they don't know the difference
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Originally Posted By RV8guy:

Forgive me but I tend to forget things sometimes. I assume NLS stands for No Lever Stop. The rings in the picture do indeed have the lever stop.
Yeah, it means no lever stop. A lot of people who aren't into cloning will see NLS #22s go for $400+ and think their new production ones with the lever stops are worth the same because they don't know the difference


Yep, I almost sold someone a brand new set of rings here for $120 that I listed on the EE. He asked if they had the stops, I said no...then realized the value of the NLS rings and that forced me into building my MK12. Well that and me having a number of other parts on hand.
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Yep, I almost sold someone a brand new set of rings here for $120 that I listed on the EE. He asked if they had the stops, I said no...then realized the value of the NLS rings and that forced me into building my MK12. Well that and me having a number of other parts on hand.
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I asked for pics instead of saying I'd take them.
Link Posted: 2/6/2024 6:17:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LongTrang:


solid copy.  Thank you!
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Originally Posted By Subpar:

Obj 13.  However, you have soften it in warm water to mash it on.  I tried 14 but it was slightly loose.

Eye 19 is perfect.


solid copy.  Thank you!


Its more than just getting them on.  Even after you do, they don't stay well (hence alot of pics of duct tape).  The other issue is with mashing them on, the small rim that is on the body can get misshapen or stretched and is no longer able to allow the cap itself to snap into place.  

I called Leupold direct and they sent me out a pair of the original covers if you don't have them.  They fit like a glove.
Link Posted: 2/6/2024 7:58:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KGLaw:


I asked for pics instead of saying I'd take them.
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Originally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup:


Yep, I almost sold someone a brand new set of rings here for $120 that I listed on the EE. He asked if they had the stops, I said no...then realized the value of the NLS rings and that forced me into building my MK12. Well that and me having a number of other parts on hand.


I asked for pics instead of saying I'd take them.



Haha yep that's what did you in, ended up doing a little research, saw what they went for and said heck I'll build one myself.


Though in reality, that forced me into a Mk12 clone which was not the best financial decision in the world for me
Link Posted: 2/8/2024 8:26:32 PM EDT
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That is exactly how I am going to make mine; the new ones are MIM.  My stud dimensions are almost identical, 0.730" x 0.305 on the flats with a DIA of 0.365.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53511424081_11005798b1.jpg
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I never realized the sling swivel/bipod studs were marked KAC. I looked at a loose bipod mount and sure enough there were the letters KAC in the recess of the stud.
Link Posted: 2/9/2024 11:59:32 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:
Yeah, it means no lever stop. A lot of people who aren't into cloning will see NLS #22s go for $400+ and think their new production ones with the lever stops are worth the same because they don't know the difference
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I just prefer to cheat for half the cost
Link Posted: 2/9/2024 1:16:55 PM EDT
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I just prefer to cheat for half the cost
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:
Yeah, it means no lever stop. A lot of people who aren't into cloning will see NLS #22s go for $400+ and think their new production ones with the lever stops are worth the same because they don't know the difference
I just prefer to cheat for half the cost

^^^ he does good work!
Link Posted: 2/10/2024 2:11:08 AM EDT
[#26]
Were Mark 4 3-9x36 MR/T illuminated M1 optics ever seen in use. I have a L prefix so 2003 production year scope in route and was wondering if they were used on any mk12's or any other clones.
PFA:
Link Posted: 2/10/2024 8:04:51 AM EDT
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My podlock broke. Darn.

Bought this thing 15 plus years ago. Has the design changed at all? I just ordered a replacement from Brownells and thought I don't want the clone gods frowning upon me because some minute change.
Link Posted: 2/10/2024 5:18:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LongTrang] [#28]
Are there any more contemporary pics floating around of Mk12's in service?  I know we have a few posted some pages back.  Was wondering if anymore are out there.  I can't seem to find any.
Link Posted: 2/10/2024 8:30:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BravoSierra:
My podlock broke. Darn.

Bought this thing 15 plus years ago. Has the design changed at all? I just ordered a replacement from Brownells and thought I don't want the clone gods frowning upon me because some minute change.
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Possibly, depending on what version you have. What broke on yours -- the lever? If you still have the parts it should be fixable...

First version used a slotted screw. This would be around 1999-2000, mostly seen on M24s. Don't have one of those for reference.

Later changed to a hex screw. Not sure exactly when, likely by early-2000s. This one is a 2006.



Then changed to a tamper-resistant hex screw in 2007 (left). Right lever is from an EABCO S-Lever.



Old style/gen 1 (below) is a two-piece design -- separate lever and spacer. New design/gen 2 (post-2009) is a one-piece arrangement with a bent lever embossed with "KMW". Don't have one of those either but it should be the stock image on the KMW site.



IMO a gen 1 pod loc is worth fixing. Replacement levers are available.
Link Posted: 2/10/2024 10:12:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: USMCSGT0331] [#30]
Here's my Mk12 Mod 1 completely finished! I have a PEQ-2 for it in the safe, it just looks better without it on the rifle. I also have an original Mod 1 case with accessories, but those aren't important, the rifle is what matters. This is a beautiful rifle, and I'm extremely proud of this build!




Here's the parts list, a few of the parts are extremely rare! Some of the rare parts, like the PRI patent pending charging handle, probably weren't used on the Mod 1 rifles, but I wanted to build a Mod 1 with the most amazing parts that I could possibly find! How many rare parts can you spot?

- Early PRI welded latch and patent pending engraved charging handle
- Early Ergo grip with the stylized "E" logo
- Early USA made Uncle Mike's sling loop
- KAC Vero Beach sling stud mount
- KAC Vero Beach bipod mount
- KAC Vero Beach PEQ-2 mount
- KAC 200-600m rear sight
- KAC prototype 99051 front sight with the flat front and no laser engraving (SAM-R issued)
- KAC Vero Beach M4 Match FF RAS handguard
- ARMS 22H no lever stop scope rings
- Original surplus USMC used Leupold 3-9x scope
- Original surplus Mk12 Mod 0/1 take-off barrel
- Original NOS condition surplus Mk12 Mod 1 JRC marked gas block
- Original NOS condition surplus Harris bipod (slip of inspection paper dated 2006 was in the bag with the bipod)
- NOS condition Colt AF upper receiver with BCG (take-off from a 1999 barrel dated complete Colt upper)
- Allen Engineering AEM5 silencer











What do you guys think? How'd I do with this build? I'll have to post my Mk12 Mod 0 later, that build turned out great too!
Link Posted: 2/10/2024 10:33:50 PM EDT
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Here's my Mk12 Mod 1 completely finished! I have a PEQ-2 for it in the safe, it just looks better without it on the rifle. I also have an original Mod 1 case with accessories, but those aren't important, the rifle is what matters. This is a beautiful rifle, and I'm extremely proud of this build!

https://i.imgur.com/QPiyDw5.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/3iq7MFV.jpeg

Here's the parts list, a few of the parts are extremely rare! Some of the rare parts, like the PRI patent pending charging handle, probably weren't used on the Mod 1 rifles, but I wanted to build a Mod 1 with the most amazing parts that I could possibly find! How many rare parts can you spot?

- Early PRI welded latch and patent pending engraved charging handle
- Early Ergo grip with the stylized "E" logo
- Early USA made Uncle Mike's sling loop
- KAC Vero Beach sling stud mount
- KAC Vero Beach bipod mount
- KAC Vero Beach PEQ-2 mount
- KAC 200-600m rear sight
- KAC prototype 99051 front sight with the flat front and no laser engraving (SAM-R issued)
- KAC Vero Beach M4 Match FF RAS handguard
- ARMS 22H no lever stop scope rings
- Original surplus USMC used Leupold 3-9x scope
- Original surplus Mk12 Mod 0/1 take-off barrel
- Original NOS condition surplus Mk12 Mod 1 JRC marked gas block
- Original NOS condition surplus Harris bipod (slip of inspection paper dated 2006 was in the bag with the bipod)
- NOS condition Colt AF upper receiver with BCG (take-off from a 1999 barrel dated complete Colt upper)
- Allen Engineering AEM5 silencer

https://i.imgur.com/sCAjdNJ.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/DITHGhs.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/AyrAeyX.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/td5fP92.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/l6tHBNg.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/cLpkunj.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/kKtBJ4X.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/6LJxHGw.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/14uWyPg.jpeg

What do you guys think? How'd I do with this build? I'll have to post my Mk12 Mod 0 later, that build turned out great too!
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All that purple.
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 12:04:23 AM EDT
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All that purple.
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331:
Here's my Mk12 Mod 1 completely finished! I have a PEQ-2 for it in the safe, it just looks better without it on the rifle. I also have an original Mod 1 case with accessories, but those aren't important, the rifle is what matters. This is a beautiful rifle, and I'm extremely proud of this build!

https://i.imgur.com/QPiyDw5.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/3iq7MFV.jpeg

Here's the parts list, a few of the parts are extremely rare! Some of the rare parts, like the PRI patent pending charging handle, probably weren't used on the Mod 1 rifles, but I wanted to build a Mod 1 with the most amazing parts that I could possibly find! How many rare parts can you spot?

- Early PRI welded latch and patent pending engraved charging handle
- Early Ergo grip with the stylized "E" logo
- Early USA made Uncle Mike's sling loop
- KAC Vero Beach sling stud mount
- KAC Vero Beach bipod mount
- KAC Vero Beach PEQ-2 mount
- KAC 200-600m rear sight
- KAC prototype 99051 front sight with the flat front and no laser engraving (SAM-R issued)
- KAC Vero Beach M4 Match FF RAS handguard
- ARMS 22H no lever stop scope rings
- Original surplus USMC used Leupold 3-9x scope
- Original surplus Mk12 Mod 0/1 take-off barrel
- Original NOS condition surplus Mk12 Mod 1 JRC marked gas block
- Original NOS condition surplus Harris bipod (slip of inspection paper dated 2006 was in the bag with the bipod)
- NOS condition Colt AF upper receiver with BCG (take-off from a 1999 barrel dated complete Colt upper)
- Allen Engineering AEM5 silencer

https://i.imgur.com/sCAjdNJ.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/DITHGhs.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/AyrAeyX.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/td5fP92.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/l6tHBNg.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/cLpkunj.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/kKtBJ4X.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/6LJxHGw.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/14uWyPg.jpeg

What do you guys think? How'd I do with this build? I'll have to post my Mk12 Mod 0 later, that build turned out great too!

All that purple.
I think I'm the only person you don't tell to paint his rifle, lol

Does anyone have an old gen 1 Pod-Loc available? That's one of the few pieces that I'm missing, I'd appreciate any help with finding one or 2 of them
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 12:24:01 AM EDT
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I think I'm the only person you don't tell to paint his rifle, lol

Does anyone have an old gen 1 Pod-Loc available? That's one of the few pieces that I'm missing, I'd appreciate any help with finding one or 2 of them
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331:
Here's my Mk12 Mod 1 completely finished! I have a PEQ-2 for it in the safe, it just looks better without it on the rifle. I also have an original Mod 1 case with accessories, but those aren't important, the rifle is what matters. This is a beautiful rifle, and I'm extremely proud of this build!

https://i.imgur.com/QPiyDw5.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/3iq7MFV.jpeg

Here's the parts list, a few of the parts are extremely rare! Some of the rare parts, like the PRI patent pending charging handle, probably weren't used on the Mod 1 rifles, but I wanted to build a Mod 1 with the most amazing parts that I could possibly find! How many rare parts can you spot?

- Early PRI welded latch and patent pending engraved charging handle
- Early Ergo grip with the stylized "E" logo
- Early USA made Uncle Mike's sling loop
- KAC Vero Beach sling stud mount
- KAC Vero Beach bipod mount
- KAC Vero Beach PEQ-2 mount
- KAC 200-600m rear sight
- KAC prototype 99051 front sight with the flat front and no laser engraving (SAM-R issued)
- KAC Vero Beach M4 Match FF RAS handguard
- ARMS 22H no lever stop scope rings
- Original surplus USMC used Leupold 3-9x scope
- Original surplus Mk12 Mod 0/1 take-off barrel
- Original NOS condition surplus Mk12 Mod 1 JRC marked gas block
- Original NOS condition surplus Harris bipod (slip of inspection paper dated 2006 was in the bag with the bipod)
- NOS condition Colt AF upper receiver with BCG (take-off from a 1999 barrel dated complete Colt upper)
- Allen Engineering AEM5 silencer

https://i.imgur.com/sCAjdNJ.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/DITHGhs.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/AyrAeyX.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/td5fP92.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/l6tHBNg.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/cLpkunj.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/kKtBJ4X.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/6LJxHGw.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/14uWyPg.jpeg

What do you guys think? How'd I do with this build? I'll have to post my Mk12 Mod 0 later, that build turned out great too!

All that purple.
I think I'm the only person you don't tell to paint his rifle, lol

Does anyone have an old gen 1 Pod-Loc available? That's one of the few pieces that I'm missing, I'd appreciate any help with finding one or 2 of them

I mean...paint wouldn't be bad, but purple needs to see the light of day. Plus, 99% of your stuff is museum-level stuff not Larp-level like the rest of us peons.
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 11:25:05 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331:
Here's my Mk12 Mod 1 completely finished! I have a PEQ-2 for it in the safe, it just looks better without it on the rifle. I also have an original Mod 1 case with accessories, but those aren't important, the rifle is what matters. This is a beautiful rifle, and I'm extremely proud of this build!

https://i.imgur.com/QPiyDw5.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/3iq7MFV.jpeg

Here's the parts list, a few of the parts are extremely rare! Some of the rare parts, like the PRI patent pending charging handle, probably weren't used on the Mod 1 rifles, but I wanted to build a Mod 1 with the most amazing parts that I could possibly find! How many rare parts can you spot?

- Early PRI welded latch and patent pending engraved charging handle
- Early Ergo grip with the stylized "E" logo
- Early USA made Uncle Mike's sling loop
- KAC Vero Beach sling stud mount
- KAC Vero Beach bipod mount
- KAC Vero Beach PEQ-2 mount
- KAC 200-600m rear sight
- KAC prototype 99051 front sight with the flat front and no laser engraving (SAM-R issued)
- KAC Vero Beach M4 Match FF RAS handguard
- ARMS 22H no lever stop scope rings
- Original surplus USMC used Leupold 3-9x scope
- Original surplus Mk12 Mod 0/1 take-off barrel
- Original NOS condition surplus Mk12 Mod 1 JRC marked gas block
- Original NOS condition surplus Harris bipod (slip of inspection paper dated 2006 was in the bag with the bipod)
- NOS condition Colt AF upper receiver with BCG (take-off from a 1999 barrel dated complete Colt upper)
- Allen Engineering AEM5 silencer

https://i.imgur.com/sCAjdNJ.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/DITHGhs.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/AyrAeyX.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/td5fP92.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/l6tHBNg.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/cLpkunj.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/kKtBJ4X.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/6LJxHGw.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/14uWyPg.jpeg

What do you guys think? How'd I do with this build? I'll have to post my Mk12 Mod 0 later, that build turned out great too!
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.  Prob doesn't get much better than this.  Congrats!
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 12:23:04 PM EDT
[#35]
Had a few nights days this weekend and got the Mod 0 and H out.  Hitting 600 silhouettes is just too easy. Using some of the PSA 77gr SMK rounds.
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 2:13:18 PM EDT
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Found some Diemaco AH uppers the other day, guess I’m building a MK12 now… The clone gods don’t want me to stop because they keep giving me great deals. Chopping one for a MK18, and keeping one for a M4.

Link Posted: 2/11/2024 3:20:33 PM EDT
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Picked this pvs-22 up for my xm-3 build but damn if it doesn’t fit right at home on the mod1

Link Posted: 2/11/2024 4:07:18 PM EDT
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Had a few nights days this weekend and got the Mod 0 and H out.  Hitting 600 silhouettes is just too easy. Using some of the PSA 77gr SMK rounds.
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@metalsaber got a link for these? I'm not seeing them.
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 4:12:05 PM EDT
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Picked this pvs-22 up for my xm-3 build but damn if it doesn’t fit right at home on the mod1

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Link Posted: 2/11/2024 4:47:23 PM EDT
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@metalsaber got a link for these? I'm not seeing them.
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Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Had a few nights days this weekend and got the Mod 0 and H out.  Hitting 600 silhouettes is just too easy. Using some of the PSA 77gr SMK rounds.

@metalsaber got a link for these? I'm not seeing them.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-5-56-nato-77-grain-sierra-matchking-hpbt-20rd-box.html
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 5:12:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331:
Here's my Mk12 Mod 1 completely finished! I have a PEQ-2 for it in the safe, it just looks better without it on the rifle. I also have an original Mod 1 case with accessories, but those aren't important, the rifle is what matters. This is a beautiful rifle, and I'm extremely proud of this build!

https://i.imgur.com/QPiyDw5.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/3iq7MFV.jpeg

Here's the parts list, a few of the parts are extremely rare! Some of the rare parts, like the PRI patent pending charging handle, probably weren't used on the Mod 1 rifles, but I wanted to build a Mod 1 with the most amazing parts that I could possibly find! How many rare parts can you spot?

- Early PRI welded latch and patent pending engraved charging handle
- Early Ergo grip with the stylized "E" logo
- Early USA made Uncle Mike's sling loop
- KAC Vero Beach sling stud mount
- KAC Vero Beach bipod mount
- KAC Vero Beach PEQ-2 mount
- KAC 200-600m rear sight
- KAC prototype 99051 front sight with the flat front and no laser engraving (SAM-R issued)
- KAC Vero Beach M4 Match FF RAS handguard
- ARMS 22H no lever stop scope rings
- Original surplus USMC used Leupold 3-9x scope
- Original surplus Mk12 Mod 0/1 take-off barrel
- Original NOS condition surplus Mk12 Mod 1 JRC marked gas block
- Original NOS condition surplus Harris bipod (slip of inspection paper dated 2006 was in the bag with the bipod)
- NOS condition Colt AF upper receiver with BCG (take-off from a 1999 barrel dated complete Colt upper)
- Allen Engineering AEM5 silencer

https://i.imgur.com/sCAjdNJ.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/DITHGhs.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/AyrAeyX.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/td5fP92.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/l6tHBNg.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/cLpkunj.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/kKtBJ4X.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/6LJxHGw.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/14uWyPg.jpeg

What do you guys think? How'd I do with this build? I'll have to post my Mk12 Mod 0 later, that build turned out great too!
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Be still my heart... Wow that's gorgeous. I'm afraid to ask how long it took to track down all those Vero Beach parts
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 5:30:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By metalsaber:
Had a few nights days this weekend and got the Mod 0 and H out.  Hitting 600 silhouettes is just too easy. Using some of the PSA 77gr SMK rounds.

@metalsaber got a link for these? I'm not seeing them.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/aac-5-56-nato-77-grain-sierra-matchking-hpbt-20rd-box.html

Ah, thanks. I was looking for PSA-branded.
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 7:27:21 PM EDT
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Picked this pvs-22 up for my xm-3 build but damn if it doesn’t fit right at home on the mod1

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@Shlouf

That bitch is sexy!!  Did you cerakote it or is that just a nicely laid spray job?  Anxiously awaiting my scopes arrival too..................
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 8:24:07 PM EDT
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Picked this pvs-22 up for my xm-3 build but damn if it doesn't fit right at home on the mod1

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The PVS-22 looks awesome on your rifle! I grabbed my PVS-22 from my original USMC XM3 kit that I bought from the CMP years ago (it's 1 of the 4 XM3's that my Scout Sniper Platoon had in Fallujah, Iraq in 2008, and was issued to my friend!). Here's what the PVS-22 and PEQ-2 look like on my Mk12 Mod 1. Gotta say, it looks awesome!






I also wanted to see what the PVS-22 looked like on my Mk12 Mod 0. Looks good, but as you can see in the photos, the PVS-22 doesn't line up very well with the Leupold TS-30A2 scope in the medium height Arms rings.



Link Posted: 2/11/2024 8:26:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: USMCSGT0331] [#45]
Here's my Mk12 Mod 0, it's also built to crazy perfect specs like my Mod 1! This rifle has an original military used take-off barrel and it has the correct Mod 0 folding sight gas block (FSGB)! I've seen multiple crazy rare SPR FSGB's over the years, but this Mod 0 FSGB is the only legit actual Mod 0 FSGB I've ever seen. The Mod 0 FSGB has 4 set screws holding it to the original barrel, not the 2 long bolts like some of the older FSGB's had. The Mod 0 handguard is an original surplus Mod 0 piece, it was made around 2003 and has the correct size/location vent holes. The original Mod 0 handguard is extremely rare! You guys should recognize the original Leupold TS-30A2 scope, Arms 22M no lever stop rings and the Arms Tactical Ring Cap (TRC). The Arms #38 Swan Sleeve is the PEQ-2 type, which is correct for the military Mod 0's as well.




I also have a vintage Docter Optic red dot sight in a protective winged mount. The previous photos are the Mod 0 without the red dot, the 2 photos below have the red dot attached. Which way do you guys like better?




The GM Hydramatic receiver was cistom made for me, and the serial number on it actually matches the original government issued Mk12 Mod 0 serial number that's on my original Mod 0 case! The serial number range on the original case actually matches up to the GM Hydramatic receivers (not Colt or H&R or any other company), so I decided to do a reproduction GM Hydramatic receiver for my build using this serial number! This is probably a one-off pair, I've never seen another receiver with a serial number matching an original Mk12 case!





I actually have this Mod 0 available for sale (minus the silencer), a friend is currently thinking about buying it from me. It's expensive, but it's probably the best clone Mk12 Mod 0 ever assembled! It's truly a labor of love, a ton of time/money/effort when into this build, and I hope all that effort can be seen in these photos!
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 8:49:08 PM EDT
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The PVS-22 looks awesome on your rifle! I grabbed my PVS-22 from my original USMC XM3 kit that I bought from the CMP years ago (it's 1 of the 4 XM3's that my Scout Sniper Platoon had in Fallujah, Iraq in 2008, and was issued to my friend!). Here's what the PVS-22 and PEQ-2 look like on my Mk12 Mod 1. Gotta say, it looks awesome!

https://i.imgur.com/HBq9FFC.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/U4ZCobB.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/Qe8Bv2J.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/tl99J64.jpeg

I also wanted to see what the PVS-22 looked like on my Mk12 Mod 0. Looks good, but as you can see in the photos, the PVS-22 doesn't line up very well with the Leupold TS-30A2 scope in the medium height Arms rings.

https://i.imgur.com/dxIG2Bm.jpeg
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Very nice rigs.

Mod 0 lines up a hell of a lot better than the XM-3 does though
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 9:28:00 PM EDT
[#47]
Here's both of my builds, which one do you guys prefer? I love both of these rifles, they turned out perfect and they look amazing together! It's difficult to say if I like one better than the other. What do you guys think about these clone builds?



Link Posted: 2/11/2024 9:37:43 PM EDT
[#48]
I like cheese graters and purple. Especially purple cheese graters.
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 9:39:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By USMCSGT0331:
Here's both of my builds, which one do you guys prefer? I love both of these rifles, they turned out perfect and they look amazing together! It's difficult to say if I like one better than the other. What do you guys think about these clone builds?

https://i.imgur.com/S5wj3EJ.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/pFimCuK.jpeg
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While I ended up with a KAC rail from the last batch, I think my Mod 0 and Mod H will receive more range time.

The PRI tube is just so iconic…
Link Posted: 2/11/2024 9:41:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I like cheese graters and purple. Especially purple cheese graters.
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Hell yeah!
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