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Posted: 12/18/2005 8:15:57 PM EDT
[#1]
Hmm..
That would actually be pretty cool. Shaving the extra 1.5" of barrel will cut a bit of weight off. I plan to assemble a light wieght rifle in the near future... hmmm. |
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Posted: 12/18/2005 8:32:26 PM EDT
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Try steve at adco. He turned down a mid length barrel to a light weight profle for me.
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Posted: 12/18/2005 8:41:35 PM EDT
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It appears that J&T/DoubleStar may offer a 14.5" lightweight barrel. It may be one of the "A1 barrels" (I assume with .625 front sight bases)advertised in some mag that I read recently, but I'm not certain. When I called to inquire about the profile and FSB hole diameter the tecs that would know weren't in yet. I will try back tomorrow. If this barrel is in Colt653/C8 type configuration with a small diameter FSB, it should be an immensely popular product for J&T to carry.
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Posted: 12/18/2005 9:15:13 PM EDT
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You could just buy one from CMMG...
They have one with no flash hider and one with a permanent mounted Phantom. 14.5 Lightweight Barrel New production stripped 14.5” lightweight barrels. Features include parkerizing under “F” marked forged front sight base, chrome lined chamber and bore, MP testing, 5.56mm chambering, 1/7” twist, M-4 barrel extension, mil-spec parkerizing, drilled gas port and standard 1/2x28 threads. Included with barrel is A2 sight assembly, standard handguard cap and barrel nut. Barrels are engraved “CMMG MPC 5.56 NATO 1/7”. All NFA rules apply. Price: $249.95  cmmginc.secure-mall.com/shop/index.php?shop=1&cart=226961&cat=41& |
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Posted: 12/18/2005 9:29:35 PM EDT
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He doesn't want one that is .750 under the FSB. 
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Posted: 12/18/2005 10:10:52 PM EDT
[#6]
tagity tag
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Posted: 12/19/2005 4:04:00 AM EDT
[#7]
in jtdistributing's new catolog they offer the animal you speak of.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 7:53:57 AM EDT
[#8]
Do you have a link or pic? |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 7:59:06 AM EDT
[#9]
Er, why? |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:08:06 AM EDT
[#10]
Because it is non standard.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:11:49 AM EDT
[#11]
and it looks stupid.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:16:46 AM EDT
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Since all the lightweight 14.5" bbls I have ever seen advertised are .75" under the gas block, I don't understand this statement. Besides, .75" gas blocks are much more common.As far as "looks stupid", whatever floats your boat. I like the 11.5" I did.   
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Posted: 12/19/2005 8:19:38 AM EDT
[#13]
Just another stupid looking barrel...  
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Posted: 12/19/2005 9:14:13 AM EDT
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Really? The Colt 653 barrel is not .75", the barrel on the C8 is not .75". Maybe you know about some 14.5" barrel I don't know about. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 9:27:46 AM EDT
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Also, I am not looking for a "project." I don't want get something turned down. I don't want to deal with anything.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 9:33:24 AM EDT
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+1 That is what Ive been searching for and have had no luck in finding... scottryan, hopefully your post will spark a fire under the right ass... |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 12:28:10 PM EDT
[#17]
Now I want one. That would be a nice rig, very light, tactical- cool.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 1:26:56 PM EDT
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Well, then, it would stand to reason that I had not seen Colt 653 and C8 barrels advertised for sale. Maybe you should just buy a C8 bbl. Oh wait, you probably can't, which is why you posted this thread. Which means all the 1/7 14.5" bbls that you have seen advertised for sale had .75" under the gas block, too, right?
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Posted: 12/19/2005 1:36:10 PM EDT
[#19]
I wish I could find one, too.
I bought a colt 6520 upper to have shortened to 14.5", but haven't gotten it done yet. It fell off my priority list. 
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Posted: 12/19/2005 1:41:56 PM EDT
[#20]
Oops.... 
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Posted: 12/19/2005 2:27:53 PM EDT
[#21]
The only LW 1/7 bbl I have seen for sale that has .75" under the gas block is the one CMMG has.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 4:53:13 PM EDT
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Call John Noveske, he can turn a blank to any profile you want.
If I thought there were 15 people who would buy these I would order them. I think I would sell 2 and sit here with the rest of them for 10-11 years. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 5:06:25 PM EDT
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Once again, that is not what we want.
We want a mass produced barrel of USGI quality and specs. Nothing more, nothing less. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 5:28:30 PM EDT
[#24]
I don't think you're going to find a lightweight barrel, suitable for flattops, with the .625 FSB. The "F" height FSBs are all .750 as far as I know. A .625 "F" height FSB would be nonstandard as well.
Given that SOMETHING would have to be nonstandard, I like CMMG's design. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 5:33:48 PM EDT
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I ought to see if the RO933 has a .625" F front sight base. I can't imagine a Colt flat top coming without an F front sight base. I want the same barrel as Scottryan. I HAVE seen these barrels--and I know of some that are in US military service. Colt has made them, but does not currently make them. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 5:43:04 PM EDT
[#26]
It does. We talked about this awhile ago when another member asked this quesiton. Somebody else posted pictures. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 5:45:01 PM EDT
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Who says I am going to use it with a flattop upper? RED: This statement makes no sense since it already exists. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 5:50:37 PM EDT
[#28]
Today's standard M4 is a flattop. I was thinking conventionally. Never seen the "F" height .625 FSB, didn't know. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 6:07:11 PM EDT
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I can't answer your question, but I like the way you think. I have a 1 in 9 16" that I like. But the barrel your talking about sounds great.
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Posted: 12/19/2005 6:55:53 PM EDT
[#30]
I have a Colt 14.5 .625 1/7 barrel. I love it, it's my favrite rifle.
You can still find the barrels. I found two new/unused barrels earlier this year. You just need to search for them. IIRC Colt quit making them in the mid 90s. They still make them now and then, but are a very limited run item. Most are 11.5" now. I have not seen a new 14.5 from them in a long time. I'll add some pics later tonite. |
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Posted: 12/19/2005 7:31:29 PM EDT
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I realize this, but I don't want to shell out $400 and shoot up a collectable barrel.
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Posted: 12/22/2005 11:34:11 AM EDT
[#32]
btt
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Posted: 12/22/2005 12:19:59 PM EDT
[#33]
You are shit out of luck you picky SOB...
Seriously... have HBAR or M4 turned down but have it turned down BETWEEN the mounting points for the FSB as well. Then it will look like a real ultralight yet keep a standard FSB. That is your only choice other than a Colt. Sometimes you cant get what you want for the price you are willing to pay. Sounds like you need to pony up the cash, compromise, or select something else. Otherwise you will have no rifle at all and will have to stick to shooting AKs. |
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Posted: 12/22/2005 4:17:58 PM EDT
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I make lightweight 1:7 LMT barrels all the time.
I just take a standard M4 barrel and re-profile it, then re-parkerize it. They come out really nice. I have some 16" uppers in stock if you want a whole upper, or I can pull an upper down and sell you a barrel. I can turn them to about any diameter that's safe. For simplicity, I keep them at 0.750 under the front sight base unless you want to put a 0.625" flip-up front sight base or gas block on them. I'm not aware of standard type 0.625" front sight bases being available as components or I would offer those as well. |
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Posted: 12/22/2005 4:52:59 PM EDT
[#35]
Curiosity piqued...
What .625 gas block would I need to run a DD 9.0? |
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Posted: 12/22/2005 5:00:01 PM EDT
[#36]
Larue or YHM quickly come to mind. The LaRue slides on, so it has to be there before the permenant attach job. The YHM is a 2 piece that screws together. This is easier to deal with because I can permenant attach a muzzle device and parkerize the whole thing. Then it can be assmebled without any welding and touchup. |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 12:26:08 AM EDT
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If you got enough people together, ER shaw would probably do it for you. Call them and find out how many people you need.
Mass produced? I don't think so. Shaw has provided LW with 10.3" pencil barrels. I am not sure where the FSB's came from but can find out. |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 2:07:04 AM EDT
[#38]
Colt makes an 11.5"er in the .625, I am surprised there isn't a 14.5.
errrrrr........was that the question?  its early |
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Posted: 12/23/2005 11:02:37 AM EDT
[#39]
Hmm... Thanks. Are we talking part number YHM-9377A? 
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Posted: 12/23/2005 11:07:19 AM EDT
[#40]
By the way, for those that wanted to know, the Bushy barrel is .625 under the front sight base. But it's not 14.5", and it's not 1x7.
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Posted: 12/23/2005 11:11:53 AM EDT
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The YHM 5C1 would be my choice for a permanently-attached muzzle device on a 14.5" chrome-lined 1x7 .625" barrel with an M4 barrel extension.
 Nothing to snag, reduced dust signature when firing prone, Vortex-like flash suppression, and the possibility of some muzzle rise compensation due to the lack of a bottom slot. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:31:20 AM EDT
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Of course, the possibility exists that I'm simply wrong and dumber than a doormat. ETA: Is this for a SBR? If not, you won't have the "real deal" anyway. You'll have to use a non-A2 FH to get to 16". |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 8:44:14 AM EDT
[#43]
Bushmaster 1:7 barrels are special order, probably long lead-time items. If you want a permenant attached A2 comp for the correct look, go with a 15" barrel length. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:05:41 AM EDT
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It's no harder to make them than any other barrel, with the exception that .625 FSBs are not as common. It's just that the people who make barrels won't make them. Same with a lightweight midlength, chrome lined midlengths, 1/7 twist, midweights, F height sight bases, etc etc. For all the options available with AR's, barrels and barrel profiles has the least selection in quality, well designed parts.
Custom barrel might sound like a good idea to some but try to get it accomplished without a massive application of $$ and time, and some luck. (to wit, the Giffmann barrel project). There is no "er" in "custom", I've been trying to get a barrel customized for several months now and it's just turned into a money and time sink. I think you are right with looking for a "factory" offering. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:14:31 AM EDT
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Collectable? Well now that you says this, I do seem to recall my accountant saying I should invest in barrels and not my 401(K)....................
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:15:51 AM EDT
[#46]
Bushamster will make any kind of barrel you want, you just have to order enough of them to make it worth their while. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:21:34 AM EDT
[#47]
I'm on board for one!
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:24:03 AM EDT
[#48]
My customers would disagree with a lot of what you have to say. Have you been trying to get a factory barrel modified for several months? That's crazy. I can do anything you want in a week or so. The only exception is parkerizing, which I send out. This adds 2 weeks to the process, but that's about it. |
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:24:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/26/2005 9:29:02 AM EDT
[#50]
$395.00  Everyone wants their barrel for $99... ...and it's a 16", not a 14.5" like the topic is asking for. |
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