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Posted: 1/10/2006 12:12:58 PM EDT
Started with Don Francis's old data base, and added more rifles. The rifles I added are yours and mine, and a bunch off Gunbroker, Gunsamerica, and Auctionarms.
1983-1985 2116xx CARBINE no forge code on upper 2101xx CARBINE CM forging, does not look like there is a forge code on the FSB, A2 grip 2082xx CARBINE CH forging, C and bell FSB 207796 no details 20258X CM upper, Coltguard nickle finish, FSB has a diamond with a B inside and two smaller letters inside to the right of the B that look like a over a P an I 202xxx nickle finish 200720 CH forge code upper, barrel marked CHROME BORE, C and bell FSB 198xxx C and bell FSB 191678 CARBINE CH forging, barrel marked CHROME BORE 19097X no details 184355 CARBINE, can't make out the forge code, nickle finish, A2 grip, 183XXX CARBINE CH forging, barrel marked C MP CHROME BORE 1812XX CM forge code, Hammer has "C" in circle and a 6 or 9 in circle with FP cutout, bobbed disconector, barrel marked C MP chrome bore, front site has a "B1" in diamond, unshrouded bolt carrier C stamped with FA notches, bolt etched MPC, ejector has either 3 or 4 coils with white buffer 179XXX unusual in that it has a modern carrier with no forward assist cuts 1767XX, Upper Forging marked C M, Barrel marked C MP CHROME BORE, 16" Barrel Collapsible stock, bolt carrier marked- C 176728 can't make out the forge code 175xxx CARBINE CH forging 175091 CARBINE, later lower forging with curved reinforcment by receiver extention 1757xx CARBINE can't make out the forge code, no forge code on FSB 174XXX CM forging, barrel marked CHROME BORE, bell an C FSB 174247 has replacement lone star handguards 173XXX made in 1983 1982 1730XX CARBINE CM forging, Barrel marked C MP CHROME BORE, FSB with "C" near top, "bell" on lower area, purchased NIB in late Nov. 82 162991 CM forge code 155427 close up of left side 1562xx CARBINE 154XXX no details 145xxx. CM forge code barrel marked CHROME BORE 144957 forward assist cuts in carrier 141xxx CM forging, made in 1982 140320 CARBINE, CM forging, barrel marked CHOMRE BORE 1981 139415 CARBINE CM forging, barrel marked CHROME BORE 1385xx CM forging, barrel marked CHROME BORE, C and bell FSB 1312xx CM forging, barrel marked C MP B, C and bell FSB 130476 CM forging, C and bell FSB 1980 128949 Carbine, "C" forged front sight base, Barrel stamped "C MP Chrome Bore", A1 Flash hider with lock washer, and the wrench flats indexed in the 90 degree vertical position, rivited front sling swivel, CM forged A1 reciever, no forward assist, square proof stamp forward of ejection port door, factory staked Vinyl coated collapsable butt stock marked with an "NN" in an oval and a "1" under the latch, "C" stamped full circle AR carrier, non shrouded firing pin, "MPC" marked bolt, Forward assist notched carrier, ejector not marked. 128132 trap door buttstock, flash suppresor swapped out for a three prong 12402X CARBINE, C M Forge code below sight "C" in a square behind the delta ring, Full circle C marked bolt carrier MPC bolt. Don't see any mark on the extractor. White spring insert, C mark on FSB, C MP CHROME BORE on top of bbl. A1 FH, metal 2 position nylon coated buttstock, still has the paint on the buffer tube nut stakes and on the bolt stop pin. 123xxx C and bell FSB 122XXX can't make out forge code, barrel marked CHROME BORE, 121027 CM forge code, A1 birdcage FH, Barrel marked "C MP Chrome Bore", FSB Marked "C", no proof stamps on upper, "C" marked full circle AR carrier, "C" marked ejector, 4 coil spring with white insert, "MPC" marked bolt, bobbed disconnector, factory touch up paint on mag release roll pin area on both upper and lower 120xxx can't read the upper forge code, barrel marked CHROME BORE, made in 1980 1195xx CM forge code, no forge code FSB, barrel marked CHROME BORE 1182XX CM forging, no forge code on FSB, barrel marked CHROME BORE 117623 Carbine 116221 Carbine CM forge code upper, barrel marked CHROME BORE 1114xx Carbine CM forge code upper, made in 1980 106919 CM forge code, A1 birdcage FH, Barrel marked "C MP Chrome Bore", "C" marked FSB, "C" marked AR carrier, "C" stamped ejector with white insert, "MPC" marked bolt, bobbed disconnector, factory touch up paint on mag release roll pin area 1979 100473 CM forge code, forward assist cuts, barrel marked CHROME BORE, C marked FSB 1042X2 CM forge code, made in 1979, barrel marked CHROME BORE, selector has notch on right side 979XX CM forge code, rollmarked FIREARMS DIV, barrel Marked C MP Chrome Bore, Front Site Base Marked with a C, Birdcage Flash, Trap Door Stock,, bolt marked MPC, Carrier marked C, No marks on the extractor, purchased 78/79 96XXX having some issues with the anodizing coming off the lower, purchased 78/79 95xxx CM forge code upper 1978 92341 no details 921xx CARBINE, unmarked FSB, Barrel was marked C MP CHROME BORE, but has been cut to 11. 5 inches, as the piece was Class 3d and made into an XM177E2 clone in 1979. Can't give you original upper forge markings. Upper was replaced w/a big hole forward assist type some years back, and idiot me sold the smooth side upper off, 1978 90269 lone star replacement handguards 894XX forward assist cuts, 87059 Carbine, looks like a CM forge code upper, barrel marked C MP B 858xx 80142 CM forge code upper, barrel marked CHROME BORE, lower roll marked Firearms Division 1977 76728 lower roll marked Firearms Division 76xxx barrel marked CHROME BORE 74778 lower roll marked Patent Firearms, barrel marked CHROME BORE 74284 lower roll marked Patent Firearms, CM forge code upper 73175 lower roll marked Patent Firearms 70xxx lower roll marked Patent Firearms 69496 lower roll marked Patent Firearms, CM forge code, bird cage, barrel marked "C MP Chrome, "C" marked M16 carrier with non-staked gas key (replacement?), "C" marked ejector with 4 coils spring, black insert (replacment?), "MPC" marked bolt, bobbed disconnector 69349 CM forge code upper 68862 bird cage, trap door 663XX CK forge code, Hammer has "C" in circle, a Horshoe 'U' in a square between the ejection port and barrel, 20" barrel with C MP CHROME BORE on it, 'C' under the front site, A1 Bird cage flash hider, unmarked carrier 640xx no upper forge code, C and Bell FSB, barrel marked CHROME BORE, duck bill, made in 1977 632XX no forge code, forward assist cuts, C on FSB, newer lower forging with curved reinforcment by receiver extention 62316 CK forge code upper, Front Sight Base - Unmarked, Barrel Markings - C MP CHROME BORE, Flash Hider - Birdcage, Bolt Carrier - C Mark & Forward Assist Notches, Lower Proof Stamp - Triangle w/VP Inside - Forward End Starboard Side, Buttstock - Standard w/trapdoor, Hammer - Early Style w/C in circle & 2 in circle stampings 1976 57xxx forge code upper, can't make it out 55757 no forge code, trap door fixed swivel, bird cage 51502 no upper and barrel, bolt has white extractor buffer 1975 463xx no forge code upper, C and Bell FSB, duck bill, barrel marked CHROME BORE 44885 missing roll marks SEMI, FIRE, and manufactures info, grip replaced with A2 44435 no details 44XXX C marked carrier, bird cage 43461 bird cage flash suppresor, trap door buttstock 42786 no forge code, forward assist cuts, trap door fixed swivel, bird cage, C and bell FSB, drain hole in buttstock screw 1974 37690 bird cage 349XX barrel is marked C MP B, C & bell FSB, no forge code upper 33400 no forge code, bird cage, forward assist cuts, trap door fixed swivel 32XXX lower only, no notch cut in hammer with forge codes, trap door 30XXX bird cage 1973 27834 C MP B, rivet, no forge code C & Bell 253XX barrel marked C MP B, C & bell FSB, no forge code upper, no + on lower made in 1973 25XXX lower only, notch cut in hammer with forge codes (possible swap out?), no + on lower, receiver extention not pinned on, wrong A2 grip and buttstcok 24431 1973 manufacture 2325X carrier has FA cuts, no forge code upper, C and Bell FSB? ?????? no forge code upper, barrel marked C MP B, duck bill, C carrier, and MPC bolt, this is a parts kit 219XX no forge code, Barrel marked: C MP C, Bolt marked: MPC, Extractor marked: C, FSB: C & bell, Birdcage FH, Non trapdoor stock w/ rear swivel, A1 pistol grip 214XX Barrel marked C MP C, Bolt marked MPC, Extractor marked C, No forge code on upper, Birdcage suppressor, Trapdoor stock, 20 rnd mag 208XX no forge code, barrel marked C MP C, birdcage, carrier marked C, no markings on bolt, C and bell marked FSB, riveted swivel, hammer marked C, disconnector not marked, trigger marked with a 2 on left lower side, purchased NIB late summer of 1973 1972 176XX barrel marked: C MP C on bottom, bolt marked: MPC, no forge codes on upper, birdcage flash hider, solid buttplate, C on front sight base 17XXX no trap door, no roll pin for receiver extention 17482 barrel marked CMP C, fixed rear swivel, A1 flash hider, no upper forge code, forward assist cuts 17230 C MP C marked barrel, fixed swivel, duck bill 1971 165XX three prong, swivel buttstock, rivet on swivel 164XX bird cage flash hider, swivel buttstock, forward assist cuts, full curve 30 round mag 163xxx fixed rear swivel, birdcage replaced with three prong, black paint on lower left and front of mag well 162XX Birdcage, Plain hard rubber (?) buttplate W/drain hole top screw, black carrier "C" stamped, + on lower, ,notches in the black carrier, C MP C ubarrel, bobbed disconnector, roll pinned swivels, rubberized and black nylon sling, Came with spare Edgewater buffer & spring 1970 15271 three prong, no hole in selector, no pin on, swivel, pin on front swivel. C MP C 1969 14418 solid buttplate 1969 Three prong 14300 barrel marked c2 12, "polished" FSB, duck bill, roll pin on swivel, + on lower, made in 1969 13192 three prong, no trap door, pinned on front swivel, no roll pin for receiver extention, 13XXX duck bill 1968 12760 three prong, + on lower, MP by FSB, 12 near muzzle, roll pinned front swivel, receiver extention not pinned in, no trap door 12,XXX replacement buttstock, grip, port door, duck bill 11577 duck bill 11XXX three prong, no trap door 10859 no pin in extension, unmarked front sight base, run Together "MP" stamped on right side of barrel between the FSB legs, small "S" and "12" stamped under barrel near Flash Hider, 3 Prong Flash Hider with lock washer, raised Plus (+) on right side of lower recever near pivot pin, no divot in selector, pinned sling swivel on buttstock, front sling swivel attached with a roll pin, full circle unmarked AR carrier, "MP" marked bolt, no forward assist notches, unmarked ejector. 10095 no pin in extension, duck bill 09991 solid selector, three prong swivel, made in 1968 1967 087XX solid selector, pinned in receiver extension, + on lower receiver "polished" FSB, black Colt's sling with no buckle 1966 078xx barrel marked MP & S 12, MP marked parked bolt, parked carrier, full auto firing pin, machined firing pin retainer, hole in buttstock screw, made in 1966 071xx "polished" FSB hole in selector, parked bolt and carrier, no FA cuts in carrier, pinned in receiver extention, edgewater buffer, don't see a drain hole in buttstock screw, roll pin front swivel made in 1966 06198 no details 06081 no details 05889 & 90 hole in selector, pinned on receiver extension, + on lower receiver, does not have the holes drilled in handguard heat shields, old style gas tube, half round gas carrier key, ramped carrier without exposed firing pin, weep hole drilled for ejector spring, bolt is parked, barrel marked MP on right side inbetween FSB "legs" on right side & a 12 near the muzzle, roll pin front swivel, "polished" FSB with no drain hole for front sight, duck bill, polished FSB, shipped Oct 1966 05542 barrel marked with a 12, chrome bolt, pinned on recever extention, hole in selector, + on lower, forged FSB with no drain hole for the post, roll pinned swivel, 12 near muzzle, VP proof mark & the M is upside down, chrome bolt, parked semi carrier, 053XX pinned on recever extention, hole in selector, + on lower, 1965 05141 hole in selector, parked carrier with auto sear trip removed, round carrier key, chrome bolt, machined retainer, proof and M marked barrel, "polished" FSB, roll pin on front swivel 048xx M and proof marked barrel, chrome MP marked bolt, parked carrier, full auto firing pin, machined firing retainer, green buffer tube, no hole in buttstock screw, made in 1965 04240 chrome bolt, parked carrier, hole in selector, don’t see a hole in buttstock screw, black Colt's sling with no buckel 03909 chrome bolt, parked carrier, no firing pin catch on hammer, hole in selector 037xx new port door 03XXX pinned on receiver extention, hole in selector, + on lower, 03325 barrel M and proof mark, with S 12, plastic coated swivels, chrome MP marked bolt with weep hole for ejector spring, parked carrier, full auto flat headed firing pin, two stakes on carrier key bolts, carrier key round, machined parked firing retainer, early port door, + on lower, hole in selector, "polished" FSB, short disconnector, made in 1965 1964 015XX Colt sling with no "buckle", parked carrier & machined firing pin retainer, carrier auto sear trip cut back, round carrier key, no firing pin catch on hammer, bolt marked MP, barrel marked M & proof & 12, + on lower, full auto flat headed firing pin, edgewater buffer, two stakes on carrier key bolts 01457 no details, made in 1964 014xx M and proof marked barrel, plastic coated swivels, chrome MP marked bolt, parked carrier, auto firing pin, machined firing retainer, green buffer tube, no hole in buttstock screw 01042 cast FSB, barrel marked M and proof early 64, and early port door, parked bolt carrier with auto trip cut back, hole in selector, edgewater buffer, round carrier key, + on lower, plastic coated swivel, long disconnector, no firing pin catch on hammer 003xx hole in take down pin. Looks like machined FSB? 00231 has old port door, transitional bolt stop & cast FSB? (this one has some miss matched parts) 00159 no details 00005 full chrome M16 bolt group, modern bolt stop, holes in selector |
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Post details on your SP1 and I will add it to the data base.
Oh yeah, anybody got a good serial number/year chart for the SP1? |
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Up to 1978: 1963 SP00001-SP00023** 1964 SP00101 1965 SP02501 1966 SP05600 1967 SP08250 1968 SP10750 1969 SP14000-SP14653 1970 SP15001-SP15473 1971 SP16001 1972 SP19401 1973 SP24201 1974 SP32601 1975 SP43801 1976 SP55301 1977 SP67651 1978 SP83400 If it helps any, my SP1's serial number is 173XXX, and it was manufactured in 1983. |
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Thanks, rifle listed, and I stuck years in there, had to take a guess where to put them though, but the data base is a work in progress.
Got it in there.
Was hoping you would give details on your rifle, I do have the serial number in there. |
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Not sure if this will help you, SP05889 and SP05890 October 17, 1966 from Colt Historian, Kathleen J. Hoyt. This is Factory ship date not sure of production date.
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Already have your twin rifles in there, if you get a chance some details on the rifles would be nice. |
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Sorry, I see that now. IM sent. |
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Yours has an extra didget compared to the 1974 SP1, your rifle was made after 1985. |
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whoops! thanks for the clarification, no glasses on this morning |
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Those number start to run together after you stare at them for awhile.
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Got Henry455's twin SP1's detailed. How about you YardDogOne, could use details on yours.
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Here's mine:
#214XX Barrel marked: C MP C Bolt marked: MPC Extractor marked: C No forge codes on upper Birdcage suppressor Trapdoor stock 20 rnd mag |
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Stuck it in there, thanks. |
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OK finally made it back here. Colt SP1 ser. 10859 20" Rifle Unmarked front sight base Run Together "MP" stamped on side of barrel between the FSB legs, right side Small "S" and run together "MP" stamped under barrel near Flash Hider 3 Prong Flash Hider with lock washer A1 upper, no Forward assist no forge codes Colt triangle proof stamp forward of ejection port standard charging handle Raised Plus (+) on right side of lower recever near pivot pin no divot in selector Pinned sling swivel on buttstock Front sling swivel attached with a roll pin Full circle unmarked AR carrier "MP" marked bolt NO forward assist notches unmarked ejector --------------------- Colt SP1 ser. 128949 Carbine "C" forged front sight base Barrel stamped "C MP Chrome Bore" A1 Flash hider with lock washer, and the wrench flats indexed in the 90 degree vertical position Rivited front sling swivel CM forged A1 reciever, no forward assist Square proof stamp forward of ejection port door Factory staked Vinyl coated collapsable butt stock marked with an "NN" in an oval and a "1" under the latch "C" stamped full circle AR carrier Non shrouded firing pin "MPC" marked bolt Forward assist notched carrier Ejector not marked ------------- 1977 SP1 Rifle arriving late next week ----------------- 1980 SP1 Rifle arriving late next week |
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Here's mine:
SP1 rifle #176XX Barrel marked: C MP C on bottom Bolt marked: MPC No forge codes on upper Birdcage flash hider Solid buttplate C on front sight base Pat 0-1-25 |
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Updated post, thanks guys.
One thing you might check, especially if you are going to take it apart and check for a "C" on the extractor, take a look at the extractor spring, old ones are five coil, newer ones are four coil with a buffer. Buffers were first white, then red. Don't think blue were used in the SP1? YardDogOne, that is the first barrel I have heard of with two MP markings. Normally a barrel like that would have a "12" or a "C" rather then a second MP by the flash suppresor. Very interesting. |
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yes very interesting, so interesting in fact I had to go back and check, says 12 not MP, as do my notes, must have lost something in the translation sorry 'bout that |
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Good, just don't need another variation in markings, thanks for checking, will edit.... |
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I have seen some inaccuracies in previous online charts. The Colt R6001 I personally bought NIB in late Nov. 1982 was s/n SP1730xx. Upper marked "CM" below the rear sight. Left side roll markings: COLT'S FIREARMS DIVISION COLT INDUSTRIES HARTFORD, CONN. U.S.A. Barrel marks: C MP CHROME BORE FSB: right side, "C" near top, "bell" on lower area. Paladin |
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Yep, and this one ain't right either, I just stuck the years in were they look good. The more guys that contribute, the more accurate it will be. Thanks for the info, yours has been added. |
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Found the pictures of number 5 in the archive, was anymore ever posted on it? A right side photo would have been great. I wonder if it was assembled in 1963 or 1966. I examined SP1 SP00232 at a gun show some years ago (1990’s). Gun had been sold from the factory shortly before I examined it, had a dated Colt bill of sale. It had many later SP1 parts, notched carrier, fire control, stocks etc... You may have seen SP00231 on Gunbroker.com last year, advertised with incorrect parts or were they? Seems like Colt may have held some receivers and assembled them at a latter date. Or maybe even updated rifles that never left the factory. An SP1 database is a great idea, I too have thought of starting one over the years. An online from would be a great way to collect data, have any ever been done here?
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You got the same pics I have, no right side view. The next guy that bought it did not share any pictures publicly. I don't think the serial number was used out of order, judging from the bolt group alone. All the information I have points to just one SP1 built in 1963, that being GX4968.
Yes, saw 00231 on Gunbroker, it is included in the above data base. It did have updated parts, not sure on why. The why is always tough, prefer to stick with what, rather then why, if you know what I mean? GX4968 also had a bunch of parts swapped out on it, seems this happened prior to leaving the factory.
This one and your old one are the only ones I have ever seen. Other then the serial number charts. Oh yeah, and BRII has quite a bit of SP data. |
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Well, lets see if I help any.
SP1 SER.SP1812XX Large hole pivot Slab side lower Hammer has "C" in circle and a 6 or 9 in circle with FP cutout. Also has the shorter disconector M16 style upper. No FA. or BD C M on upper and the usual square and triangle between the ejection port and barrel 20" barrel with C MP chrome bore on it. Front site has a "B1" in diamond Bird cage flash hider bolt carrier has an unshrouded FP with full circle in rear. C stamped with FA notches. bolt has etched MPC, ejector has either 3 or 4 coils with white buffer. When I purchased this rifle I was told by the original owner that it was a 1979. I have my doubts, but during the ban, I knew this was a pre-ban due to the slab side lower. Thats all I was looking for. |
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Mine has serial # SP154xxx. That should put it at 1982 right?
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I got to add these rifles, and have details on a bunch more I saved off gunbroker. Will get to it.........
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SP162XX here, puts born on date 1971
Birdcage, Plain hard rubber (?) buttplate W/drain hole top screw, black carrier "C" stamped, raised cross on lower, behind front RH pivot screw, no fwd assist, but has notches in the black carrier. "C MP C" under barrel, short disco, roll pinned swivels, rubberized and black nylon sling. No forge marks on either the FSB or upper. Came with spare Edgewater buffer & spring, lightly used and useless to me Also a shiney 20 round mag, metal follower, floorplate stamped...M16/M16A1 CAL.5.56mm, both Universal & Simmonds name appears, WEST HAVEN , CONN. USA was tossed in too. Interesting, nearly every year something was changed, maybe not in order... 165XX is listed as a 3 prong, my 162XX is a cage Great data base! |
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Colt SP1 20258X Coltguard nickle finish. CM upper. Sight base has a diamond with a B inside and two smaller letters inside to the right of the B that look like a over a P an I. Bought it new in early the 80's.
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Heres mine:
s/n SP 219XX Colts Patent Firearms Mfg. Co. Barrel marked: C MP C Bolt marked: MPC Extractor marked: C A1 upper: NO Forge Codes/ proof mark @ delta ring FSB: C & bell Birdcage FH Non trapdoor stock w/ rear swivel A1 pistol grip Looks like a 1973 and is in great cond. I hope this helps the database, |
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Ekie,
Check out this one:www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?item=43979838 The "Colt Firearms....." and the Fire control markings are missing? Looks like s/n 44885 |
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Here's the info from my baby:
SP1 SER.SP663XX Small Front Pivot pin?(has screw heads on each side) Slab side lower Hammer has "C" in circle C K on upper, below the rear sight on the carry handle A Horshoe 'U' in a square between the ejection port and barrel 20" barrel with C MP CHROME BORE on it. 'C' under the front sit A1 Bird cage flash hider Can't find any markings on the bolt carrier. From AR15.Com "Serial Numbers List", this gun was manufactured in the 76-77 period. I bought it at a gunshow for $1250 in 2000. Spambo |
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My Info...I bought SP979xx new in either late 78' or early 79'. I have the receipt here somewhere. My brother bought one at the same time and his # is 96XXX. He is having some issues with the anodizing coming off the lower.
SP979XX Roll Marks as above in in YardDog1's picture of serial #121027 Upper marked C M Barrel Marked C MP Chrome Bore Front Site Base Marked with a C Birdcage Flash of course Trap Door Stock Large Hole Screw Pivot Pin Bolt marked MPC Carrier marked C No marks on the extractor Need anything else...just ask.. Rick |
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My CAR-bean was made in 1980
12402X C M Forge code below sight "C" in a square behind the delta ring Full circle C marked bolt carrier MPC bolt. Don't see any mark on the extractor. White spring insert. C mark on FSB C MP CHROME BORE on top of bbl. A1 FH Metal 2 position nylon coated buttstock Still has the paint on the buffer tube nut stakes and on the bolt stop pin. rj |
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Just happened to be cleaning the old girl.
Colt SP-1 Info Serial Number - SP62316 Front Sight Base - Unmarked Barrel Markings - C MP CHROME BORE Flash Hider - Birdcage Upper Forge Code - C K Bolt Carrier - C Mark & Forward Assist Notches Lower Proof Stamp - Triangle w/VP Inside - Forward End Starboard Side Buttstock - Standard w/trapdoor Hammer - Early Style w/C in circle & 2 in circle stampings |
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Will update in a few days, thanks guys.....
Oh, and keep em comming. |
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Feel free to add on of mine:
183XXX CARBINE CH forging, barrel marked C MP CHROME BORE |
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Colt 's Firearm Division
Colt Industries Hartford, Conn. U.S.A. CAL .223 Model SP1 SER. SP 1767XX Upper Forging marked C M Barrel marked C MP CHROME BORE 16" Barrel Collapsible stock bolt carrier marked- C Bought it used for $395, in 1984 I think. Can't find the paper work right now. |
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Just added 26 more SP1's from Gunbroker, Auction Arms, gunsamerica, etc....
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