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Posted: 11/24/2018 9:49:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ARogueNinja]
This thread will be dedicated to builds and discussions of the FBI clones and thanks to Geissele for listening to the masses and releasing the much coveted rail. Parts lists will be updated as we go.  Please keep it on topic and post pictures of your builds and "in the wild" photos.







Barrel:  Colt 11.5" barrels &  others since there was already a mix of stuff out there between the different offices, prior to the upgrade starting.
Lower:  Colt/ some older DOJ contract RRA lowers, among others.
Grip:  ERGO/ Hogue/ A2
Upper:  Most of the uppers appear to be Colt marked.
Rail:  Troy and Geissele, seems like the main colors for the MK4 rail are Black and OD, unsure of the others.
Flash hider:  A2 flashhiders/ Surefire/ KAC NT4
Optics:  Aimpoint H1/T1s & H2/T2s are approved, along with the Daniel Defense mounts. The Sig Romeo4 red dot was also approved and is being used by some other federal agencies too. Spuhr mounts for Aimpoints for HRT guns.
EOTech EXPS 3 & G33 Magnifier
Sights:  Troy BUIS/ Magpul MBUS
Laser: L3 AN/ PEQ 15
Stock: CTRs  
Sling:  VTAC 2 points/ Magpul MS
Light:  WMLs/ Surefire Scout

More info here: Industry Thread
Originally Posted By mbpike:
Originally Posted By GS5414:
Alright homies. I'm going to drop some knowledge, and then ghost.

Folks generally got a handle on the right parts.

Right now, the FBI has stopped throwing out their T2s/Spuhr mounts because folks are starting to regret replacing them with the ROMEO RDS. Things aren't holding up to abuse and long life. Who knew. You'll see the Aimpoint make a comeback.

Also, nobody in this thread has the right gas block.

Geissele gas blocks are used on the FBI guns, but they are port restricted gas blocks, as in the ports aren't drilled all the way out. We used them in the USMC for some of the souped up M4s, at both 0.072" restricted for 14.5" guns (a bit too small), and 0.068" restricted for 10.3" guns. The FBI uses 0.067" restricted blocks. I think I have one of them stashed away that I never managed to use - might take a photo of it if I can find it. They do a good job keeping gas port erosion from affecting function of the guns as the barrels burn out. Keeps carrier speeds lower, recoil is a bit softer.

They are not sold commercially, or even talked about for that matter.

If you want the same function, take a G block and thread it for a BRT Micro Tune 0.067" port insert.

I'm out.

S/F
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Lets get this added to the OP.
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Originally Posted By elucidate:
Not a clone. Large regional SWAT. Skinny commando barrel.


Originally Posted By elucidate:
Indeed. When I said 'not a clone' by that I meant it's a picture of a real upper, sat on a desk in a large regional FBI training facility, not something I made at home.
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
Originally Posted By AZgunner:
I haven't decided if I'm doing the clone correct green rail, or if I'll do the same setup but in all black. It depends on where I'm at in a few months. If I need to give my current rifle back and use the FBI clone on duty, I need to do it in black, as only all black color schemes are currently authorized.
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A black rifle can be completely clone correct, it would just represent a regular agent's rifle, not HRT or Regional SWAT. This thread started as a result of the interest in the green Geissele Mk4 handguards that showed up on Regional SWAT rifles, but all four Geissele colors are in use by the FBI. People are just (understandably) a bit fixated on the green ones because they look great. That's led to what a lot of people are doing, which is combining the features of the HRT and SWAT rifles into a mixed clone (SWAT green handguard and CTR stock, HRT heavy barrel, and Spuhr HRT Aimpoint mount).

I think it would be great if @ARogueNinja could update the original post to reflect the four FBI variants that are out there (these details are incomplete and could be a little off):

HRT: DDC Mk4 handguard, 11.5" Colt HRT heavy barrel, Aimpoint T-2 on Spuhr mount (not sure about the stock), black or FDE(?) CTR or Colt stock

Regional SWAT: OD Green Mk4 handguard, 11.5" Colt LE6933 government profile barrel, Aimpoint T-2 on Daniel Defense mount, OD green CTR or Colt stock

Vehicle Teams: Grey Mk4 handguard, 11.5" Colt LE6933 government profile barrel, Sig Romeo, FAB Defense PTK AFG, Maxim Defense collapsible stock

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1182/green___grey_M4_carbines_jpg-1584398.JPG

Field Agent: Black Mk4 handguard, 11.5" Colt LE6933 government profile barrel, Aimpoint T-2 on Daniel Defense mount or Sig Romeo, black CTR or Colt stock

I think this is a grey Mk4 issued to hrt4me but is (I believe) representative of the standard agent rifle configuration. I don't recall seeing any photos in this thread of a regular agent's carbine:

https://i.imgur.com/A6UVttH.jpg
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Link Posted: 12/26/2022 6:43:44 PM EDT
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The gray looks pretty sharp. I would have loved to do a gray or green build, but my agency only allows black rifles so I built mine as an individual officer clone.
Link Posted: 1/1/2023 5:19:33 PM EDT
[#2]
If anyone is looking for an FBI URG, I just posted one up in the EE. Also, I am new to this whole Arfcom thing, not sure how to post a photo. It asks me for a link.
Link Posted: 1/2/2023 12:41:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pinkman_83:
If anyone is looking for an FBI URG, I just posted one up in the EE. Also, I am new to this whole Arfcom thing, not sure how to post a photo. It asks me for a link.
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Open and IMGUR account, upload the image, click on it and select the correct tag and paste it into the post

It would literally take less then 5 minutes to do all of that
Link Posted: 1/2/2023 12:53:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Pinkman_83:
If anyone is looking for an FBI URG, I just posted one up in the EE. Also, I am new to this whole Arfcom thing, not sure how to post a photo. It asks me for a link.
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Not to be rude, but when you have only 2 posts (1 trying to sell the item, another trying to advertise it in a tech thread), no EE feedback, and no photos, the odds of anyone wanting to do business with you are pretty slim.

Back on topic, I need to take my FBI clone out again soon. I only have a couple hundred rounds through it, I’d like to run at least 300 rounds the next range trip.
Link Posted: 1/2/2023 1:37:32 PM EDT
[#5]
Thank you for the guidance, here are the photos.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 9:25:20 PM EDT
[#6]
Hi, all.

Some nice stuff in here but I thought I’d contribute some info….

The SWAT teams are just referred to as “field SWAT” teams, not regional teams. Usually referred to by their field office…. FBI Atlanta SWAT, FBI Dallas SWAT, etc.

There are SWAT program weapons, regular Agent weapons, etc.

When the guns are put together in Quantico, there’s a pretty standard recipe of parts. All the regular Agent guns come out the same and, for the most part, stay that way.  The SWAT carbines though, show a lot more variation once they get to a team. Individual team members have some discretion on how to set the gun up as long as the modification doesn’t affect the operation or ballistic properties of the weapon.  So, you’ll see all kinds of different grips, forward grips, lights, lasers, slings, sling attachments, various red dot sights, Eotechs, scopes, whatever.

Looks like some folks have a very rigid idea of what is/isn’t “clone correct.”  There’s so much out there it would be hard to say “never” or “always” when talking about these guns.  The only thing really set in stone, so to speak, is an 11.5” barrel (not always Colt’s), Geissele rail, flat top upper, and standard Govt type BCG with an H buffer and standard spring, as far as I know….

Restricted port gas block…???  What…?

Anyway, Happy New Year!
Link Posted: 1/12/2023 9:59:24 AM EDT
[#7]
I am wanting to do a non-sbr FBI inspired build.  Parts would be clone correct except for barrel length and muzzle device.

What do you think would be more in line with the character of the original:

A 13.9" barrel with Surefire warcomp 3 prong or.

A 14.5" barrel with extended A2 flash hider?



Thanks
Link Posted: 1/12/2023 12:06:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RuKuS:
I am wanting to do a non-sbr FBI inspired build.  Parts would be clone correct except for barrel length and muzzle device.

What do you think would be more in line with the character of the original:

A 13.9" barrel with Surefire warcomp 3 prong or.

A 14.5" barrel with extended A2 flash hider?



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My personal choice of the two options would be the first one.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 2:08:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By RuKuS:
I am wanting to do a non-sbr FBI inspired build.  Parts would be clone correct except for barrel length and muzzle device.

What do you think would be more in line with the character of the original:

A 13.9" barrel with Surefire warcomp 3 prong or.

A 14.5" barrel with extended A2 flash hider?



Thanks
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Do a close tine SF or their A2 styled mount
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 3:30:30 PM EDT
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Do a close tine SF or their A2 styled mount
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Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
Originally Posted By RuKuS:
I am wanting to do a non-sbr FBI inspired build.  Parts would be clone correct except for barrel length and muzzle device.

What do you think would be more in line with the character of the original:

A 13.9" barrel with Surefire warcomp 3 prong or.

A 14.5" barrel with extended A2 flash hider?



Thanks

Do a close tine SF or their A2 styled mount

That’s a good idea, that would probably look really nice.
Link Posted: 1/13/2023 7:43:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZgunner:

That’s a good idea, that would probably look really nice.
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Originally Posted By AZgunner:
Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
Originally Posted By RuKuS:
I am wanting to do a non-sbr FBI inspired build.  Parts would be clone correct except for barrel length and muzzle device.

What do you think would be more in line with the character of the original:

A 13.9" barrel with Surefire warcomp 3 prong or.

A 14.5" barrel with extended A2 flash hider?



Thanks

Do a close tine SF or their A2 styled mount

That’s a good idea, that would probably look really nice.


I prefer the closed tine as well, but those will not bring a 13.9 to non sbr length when pin and welded.
Link Posted: 1/14/2023 9:38:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZgunner:

That’s a good idea, that would probably look really nice.
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Originally Posted By AZgunner:
Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
Originally Posted By RuKuS:
I am wanting to do a non-sbr FBI inspired build.  Parts would be clone correct except for barrel length and muzzle device.

What do you think would be more in line with the character of the original:

A 13.9" barrel with Surefire warcomp 3 prong or.

A 14.5" barrel with extended A2 flash hider?



Thanks

Do a close tine SF or their A2 styled mount

That’s a good idea, that would probably look really nice.

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Link Posted: 1/15/2023 6:49:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RuKuS:
I am wanting to do a non-sbr FBI inspired build.  Parts would be clone correct except for barrel length and muzzle device.

What do you think would be more in line with the character of the original:

A 13.9" barrel with Surefire warcomp 3 prong or.

A 14.5" barrel with extended A2 flash hider?



Thanks
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Not quite the same but a 16” rifle already exists for the FBI for IAP.

FBI Carbine


Link Posted: 1/16/2023 1:48:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: huey_crew_chief] [#14]
Has anyone ever heard or seen use of the Sig Romeo 4T in use?
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Originally Posted By AZgunner:
Originally Posted By YukonBoy03:
Originally Posted By RuKuS:
I am wanting to do a non-sbr FBI inspired build.  Parts would be clone correct except for barrel length and muzzle device.

What do you think would be more in line with the character of the original:

A 13.9" barrel with Surefire warcomp 3 prong or.

A 14.5" barrel with extended A2 flash hider?



Thanks

Do a close tine SF or their A2 styled mount

That’s a good idea, that would probably look really nice.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/153104/20221229_130731_jpg-2672394.JPG


I went closed tine so I can run my RC2 suppressor.  



Link Posted: 1/16/2023 5:27:05 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever heard or seen use of the Sig Romeo 4T in use?
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IDK about FBI use, but there’s always Obi Wan Nairobi

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Link Posted: 1/18/2023 5:34:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tortilla-flats] [#17]
Put up my clone upper in the EE. Decided to go a different route with my SBR.
Link Posted: 1/18/2023 5:50:16 PM EDT
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They are in use, but the ones they are using do not have the solar panel.  I believe they have not released to the public yet.  They are called the Romeo 4T Pro.
Link Posted: 1/25/2023 12:38:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RWA007] [#19]
I'm likely going to go ahead and SBR my clone.   The  vertical fore grip that I want once that happens is a BCM GUnfighter Mod3 vert grip, in ODG of course.  (I like the slight angle)...but curiously haven't been able to find it in that color.  2nd choice would be the Magpul RVG, but I'd rather have the BCM. Do they make it in ODG?
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I'm likely going to go ahead and SBR my clone.   The  vertical fore grip that I want once that happens is a BCM GUnfighter Mod3 vert grip, in ODG of course.  (I like the slight angle)...but curiously haven't been able to find it in that color.  2nd choice would be the Magpul RVG, but I'd rather have the BCM. Do they make it in ODG?
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I thought they did, but looking on their website I’m only seeing black and FDE.
Link Posted: 2/1/2023 10:09:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Humminbird77] [#21]
Sold the Aimpoint M4 and got the Aimpoint H2 instead with the proper DD mount. Still running the wrong stock and grip, just happen to like these better. The light is a Surefire M2 with Malkoff drop-in. I have it mounted on the M-LOK just because that is what I have on my other rifles. Here it is not optimal, maybe sometime later I will replace it with a Surefire M600.



EDIT: Again trouble embedding, sorry
Link Posted: 2/5/2023 10:33:11 AM EDT
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Taken a couple of months ago.  Field office swat team members.


Link Posted: 2/5/2023 1:00:30 PM EDT
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Taken a couple of months ago.  Regional swat team members.

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Is this guy not packing an Aimpoint H-2 or H-1. The T-1&2’s have the Aimpoint logo blackened out and not white.

So how is he running Ir Lasers and night vision with an optic that isn’t night vision capable?

Are they running passive or active aiming?

I guess where they are pretty much us only and not military they may not hav to worry about pier on pier engagement. So they can use only ir lasers and not worry about aiming through nods and night vision capable optics ?  

Anyone know?
Link Posted: 2/5/2023 1:32:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By countrygunner:


Is this guy not packing an Aimpoint H-2 or H-1. The T-1&2’s have the Aimpoint logo blackened out and not white.

So how is he running Ir Lasers and night vision with an optic that isn’t night vision capable?

Are they running passive or active aiming?

I guess where they are pretty much us only and not military they may not hav to worry about pier on pier engagement. So they can use only ir lasers and not worry about aiming through nods and night vision capable optics ?  

Anyone know?
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Originally Posted By countrygunner:
Originally Posted By TnG27:
Taken a couple of months ago.  Regional swat team members.

https://imgur.com/HEmrqub.jpg


Is this guy not packing an Aimpoint H-2 or H-1. The T-1&2’s have the Aimpoint logo blackened out and not white.

So how is he running Ir Lasers and night vision with an optic that isn’t night vision capable?

Are they running passive or active aiming?

I guess where they are pretty much us only and not military they may not hav to worry about pier on pier engagement. So they can use only ir lasers and not worry about aiming through nods and night vision capable optics ?  

Anyone know?


You are correct, looks like an H2 (can see the raised sides covering the turret.  Can’t speak to why they run IR lasers with a non NV capable Aimpoint.  Only thing I can think is maybe the IR/NV capability was procured more recently for those teams and they already had the H2’s in inventory.  
Link Posted: 2/5/2023 3:29:29 PM EDT
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I believe they're using AN/PEQ-15's with a visible laser as well as IR.
Link Posted: 2/12/2023 5:45:17 PM EDT
[#26]
I ordered a black Geissele government charging handle last night, I’m really excited for it.

And tomorrow morning, I’m shooting our qualification course with my FBI clone, then I’ll be carrying it on duty. I’ll have to take a few new photos of it, maybe have my wife use her fancy camera.
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Originally Posted By countrygunner:


Is this guy not packing an Aimpoint H-2 or H-1. The T-1&2’s have the Aimpoint logo blackened out and not white.

So how is he running Ir Lasers and night vision with an optic that isn’t night vision capable?

Are they running passive or active aiming?

I guess where they are pretty much us only and not military they may not hav to worry about pier on pier engagement. So they can use only ir lasers and not worry about aiming through nods and night vision capable optics ?  

Anyone know?
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I retired from Mil in 2017.  I was not tier 1 but maybe 2.5-3😁.  We never trained night shooting through the optic. We tried with PVS-7 B/D.   I ran the Comp M2 and the Elcan 1-4 .  Others had ACOGs too.  All of our night shooting was trained with the PAQ-4 and then the PEQ-15 IR lasers.  Not saying what they do, but just giving my NVD/weapon/ laser use was until 2017.
ETA.  We transitioned to updated NVDs around 2010.  PVS 13? I think. Can't remember.
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 12:47:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MO-6:
Hi, all.

Some nice stuff in here but I thought I’d contribute some info….

The SWAT teams are just referred to as “field SWAT” teams, not regional teams. Usually referred to by their field office…. FBI Atlanta SWAT, FBI Dallas SWAT, etc.

There are SWAT program weapons, regular Agent weapons, etc.

When the guns are put together in Quantico, there’s a pretty standard recipe of parts. All the regular Agent guns come out the same and, for the most part, stay that way.  The SWAT carbines though, show a lot more variation once they get to a team. Individual team members have some discretion on how to set the gun up as long as the modification doesn’t affect the operation or ballistic properties of the weapon.  So, you’ll see all kinds of different grips, forward grips, lights, lasers, slings, sling attachments, various red dot sights, Eotechs, scopes, whatever.

Looks like some folks have a very rigid idea of what is/isn’t “clone correct.”  There’s so much out there it would be hard to say “never” or “always” when talking about these guns.  The only thing really set in stone, so to speak, is an 11.5” barrel (not always Colt’s), Geissele rail, flat top upper, and standard Govt type BCG with an H buffer and standard spring, as far as I know….

Restricted port gas block…???  What…?

Anyway, Happy New Year!
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Lol I posted my rifle in this thread that I actually use/used on an active SWAT team and was told this wasn’t the place for it. Cloners are a weird bunch
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Lol I posted my rifle in this thread that I actually use/used on an active SWAT team and was told this wasn’t the place for it. Cloners are a weird bunch
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Well, it’s for clones of the FBI SWAT rifle. I suppose the thread title may make that slightly confusing, but it’s a specific clone build.
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 5:45:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AZgunner:

Well, it’s for clones of the FBI SWAT rifle. I suppose the thread title may make that slightly confusing, but it’s a specific clone build.
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Originally Posted By Kiltakaze:

Lol I posted my rifle in this thread that I actually use/used on an active SWAT team and was told this wasn’t the place for it. Cloners are a weird bunch

Well, it’s for clones of the FBI SWAT rifle. I suppose the thread title may make that slightly confusing, but it’s a specific clone build.

With how the slashes are utilized, it is confusing and says “reg swat” which I read as regular swat. No harm no foul, just struck me as very odd and LARPer ish
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 9:23:42 AM EDT
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Agreed.  People keep saying “FBI Regional SWAT” which isn’t a thing.  So, in the thread title, what was supposed to be an abbreviation for Regional became Reg and is confusing.
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Originally Posted By MO-6:
Agreed.  People keep saying “FBI Regional SWAT” which isn’t a thing.  So, in the thread title, what was supposed to be an abbreviation for Regional became Reg and is confusing.
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How is it not a thing? From what I understand each field office has it's own SWAT team
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 12:33:27 PM EDT
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You’re right, each field office has its own team, but we don’t refer to them as regional SWAT. It’s the field SWAT program and the teams are “whatever field office SWAT.”
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 12:36:01 PM EDT
[#34]
In process of FBI SBR Build.  Have almost everything at this point except laser (also picking up my first NVG setup today, woohoo!).  

Leaning towards Steiner DBAL A3, which at civilian power level people say is tiny bit better than civvy PEQ 15.  And it looks kinda cool, which is half the battle.

Looked at a lot of photos, and I cannot tell by looking what is the best/most common way the pressure pad is attached to the rail for Steiner DBAL A3.  I know Magpul and Cloud Defensive both make a little mount you can get, but I don't see that on the issue ones.  Are they just zip tied?  Are they using those Streamlight remote retaining clips on MLOK or PIC rails?

Also it seems odd many of the setups have the pressure pad in front of laser.  I realize this reduces front loading of weight, but wouldn't grip hands get in way of illuminator?  Or are these guys that don't use or care about illuminator/laser but are required to have it on gun?  Or do they just do constant on/off on a TAPs set up?  

Any assistance or insight is welcome.
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 1:53:53 PM EDT
[#35]
There’s no standard or required arrangement. Just put your laser and switch/pad where they work for you.
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 2:22:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RuKuS:
I am wanting to do a non-sbr FBI inspired build.  Parts would be clone correct except for barrel length and muzzle device.

What do you think would be more in line with the character of the original:

A 13.9" barrel with Surefire warcomp 3 prong or.

A 14.5" barrel with extended A2 flash hider?



Thanks
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On another forum, they detailed 16" DMR type uppers. A 13" Geissele, 16" Geissele pencil, usually a Vortex 1-6. Maybe try building one of those?
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 2:36:44 PM EDT
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You mentioned the use of the new Sig 4xtpro.  Is there any user feedback on it?  Looks like a great little optic.
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 4:26:53 PM EDT
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Thank you.  I understand that as far as location, but how does it attach at all.  Adhesive?  Zip ties? A bracket of some kind, like the Magpul or Cloud Defense one?
Link Posted: 2/16/2023 6:57:22 PM EDT
[#39]
I like the Aimpoints better than the Sig optics.

Either attach stuff via the pic rail or use zip ties, adhesive backed Velcro, or whatever the Team has/buys.
Link Posted: 2/17/2023 4:22:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BobaDebt] [#40]
Geissele has the MK 4 Federal Raisl on sale in the blem section of thier site

https://geissele.com/10-quot-super-modular-rail-mk4-federal-m-lokr-ddc-blem.html

https://geissele.com/10-quot-super-modular-rail-mk4-federal-m-lokr-black-blem.html
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 12:26:43 PM EDT
[#41]
Anyone know the spec or brand barrel the fbi used for testing the Black Hills 201gr .300 blackout ammo?
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 4:23:41 PM EDT
[#42]
They use a lot of Adams stuff up there. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s what it was.
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 5:53:00 PM EDT
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The only incorrect part is the Surefire closed tine I'll go to an A2 if it's too gassy with my RC2 whenever it's released from NFA jail.
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 6:13:32 PM EDT
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If I could get a damn Imgur account to work, I’d post some pics of real FBI guns for you all.
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 6:26:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MO-6:
If I could get a damn Imgur account to work, I’d post some pics of real FBI guns for you all.
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That would be great, I’m always interested in more photos of what’s being used in the field.
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 6:28:36 PM EDT
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If this website would allow photos to be uploaded directly from my phone, I’d have done it a long time ago.
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 7:50:48 PM EDT
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If this website would allow photos to be uploaded directly from my phone, I’d have done it a long time ago.
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I would be happy to repost some pictures for you. Feel free to email me.
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 8:28:47 PM EDT
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If this website would allow photos to be uploaded directly from my phone, I'd have done it a long time ago.
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I think you need to be a paying member to post photos directly from your phone.
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 8:29:15 PM EDT
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I'm legit surprised they run the inforce WML. I know the gov issued inforce products before, but the WML has been nothing but shit for me. Strobing out, or just not functioning.
Link Posted: 2/19/2023 9:06:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bltsammich16:
I'm legit surprised they run the inforce WML. I know the gov issued inforce products before, but the WML has been nothing but shit for me. Strobing out, or just not functioning.
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I haven’t had any issues with mine, but I haven’t used it much yet. If it breaks, I’ll be replacing it with a Streamlight or SureFire.
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