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Posted: 8/17/2004 7:08:58 AM EDT
Yeah, its been hased over before, but I like both. So which do you prefer and why. Yes I know the details, and am familiar with both.
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Posted: 8/17/2004 7:15:28 AM EDT
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I think they are both pretty much even as far as performance. I think the phantom is purdier.
 Having said that, I am using a Vortex for my next build. |
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Posted: 8/17/2004 7:18:27 AM EDT
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The Phantom just seems built stronger - I prefer less angles/edges, etc. Plus, now that Bushmaster offers a 5-ported one with a closed bottom slot, it's FS perfection!
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Posted: 8/17/2004 7:19:35 AM EDT
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Vortex will kill slightly more flash. I like the closed end of the Phantom better though.
Buy one of each. 
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Posted: 8/17/2004 7:27:46 AM EDT
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This is the one Im going with.  TG |
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Posted: 8/17/2004 7:53:22 AM EDT
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I had a Vorex that mushroomed out under heavy, heavy fire. Smith Ent replaced it for free with a new style. I got it and it is built like a tank. I have an older Phantom with the teeth and you saw what happened to that Hawkeye... you fixed it!
The rifle got dropped (not by me!) and one of the teeth on the Phantom bent out. I doubt this would happen with the newer Phantoms without teeth, but I am pretty dang sure it would not happen to the newer Vortex. The thing is made from some heavy duty metal and is thick, thick, thick. This combined with the better flash suppression and increase of accuracy made the Vortex my choice for the go-to gun. Phantom is still a great unit though and I have one on another gun. |
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Posted: 8/17/2004 9:58:57 AM EDT
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Can you add a Poll?
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Posted: 8/17/2004 10:44:16 AM EDT
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Phantom, but "get both"
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Posted: 8/17/2004 10:58:36 AM EDT
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Here is another thread with a Vortex vs. Phantom poll. Almost a 50-50 split.
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Posted: 8/17/2004 11:00:45 AM EDT
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BOTH SHOULD BE BANNED.
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Posted: 8/17/2004 11:28:47 AM EDT
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The new Vortex G6 is absolutely wonderful. I would take the G6 over phantom at this time.
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Posted: 8/17/2004 11:41:02 AM EDT
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Based on everything I've read on the subject:
The Vortex is THE best at eliminating flash. The Phantom is a very close second. The Vortex costs more than the Phantom. Some guys don't like the open tines on the Vortex because they could get hung up on stuff. The closed bottom of the Phantom will kick up less dust/dirt than the Vortex in the prone position. The Vortex does not need to be indexed; just hand tighten it and it will actually get tighter while shooting. Some older Vortex FSs were machined improperly, which caused some of them to mushroom the tines. This is NOT a problem on the newer models. There were also so Vortex kncok-offs at gun shows that failed in the same way. Okay, what did I miss? I vote Vortex. |
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Posted: 8/17/2004 12:49:00 PM EDT
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I think that pretty much sums it up.
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Posted: 8/17/2004 12:50:37 PM EDT
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Phantom - choice #2
I hate prongs on the end of my rifle. |
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Posted: 8/17/2004 12:52:56 PM EDT
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any phantom
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Posted: 8/17/2004 12:59:17 PM EDT
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I'm pretty much against prongs on the end of anything! |
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Posted: 8/17/2004 3:06:32 PM EDT
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Dang there seems to be a Vortex vs Phantom poll on every AR discussion forum
 I like the 5C2 Phantom. Nothing to snag and helps eliminate dust sig. when shooting prone. |
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Posted: 8/18/2004 10:56:00 AM EDT
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OK, new question. I see now that there is both the smooth front (#5C1), and bladed front (#5C2)versions of the Phantom out with the closed bottom. I mistakenly thought that only the smooth front was available. Which is the preference between the two?
https://secure.valinet.com/~yankeeh/cgi-bin/web_store/web_store.cgi?page=misc.html&&cart_id=5230999_16207 |
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Posted: 8/18/2004 11:15:30 AM EDT
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I likes me some Vortex. I don't think there's any issues with one being stronger than the other. Yes the Vortex is 4 prongs, but they are pretty thick prongs. I know there's the chance of the Vortex getting caught on things cause of the open ends, but I have mine on a 14.5 rather than the 20s they had in Vietnam. But, most of all, I think that Vortex looks the coolest out of all the muzzle devices.
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Posted: 8/18/2004 11:44:06 AM EDT
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Prongs are good attention getters when poked into the sternum! "I said BACK UP!"
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Posted: 8/18/2004 11:46:42 AM EDT
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I voted for the Phantom. I really hate getting the prongs of the Vortex caught on the bamboo in my back yard
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Posted: 8/18/2004 11:49:17 AM EDT
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We agree again. |
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Posted: 8/18/2004 11:50:59 AM EDT
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Hawkeye, I have to go with the 5C2 on this one! In fact, I think I'm going to order one when I call Bushmaster next week
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Posted: 8/18/2004 11:52:10 AM EDT
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When did Hell freeze over and why wasn't I informed?
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Posted: 8/18/2004 11:55:24 AM EDT
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It's been downright chilly of late, who'da thought! |
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Posted: 8/18/2004 12:06:26 PM EDT
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Yeah, but we both still think of each other as assholes
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Posted: 8/18/2004 12:12:34 PM EDT
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THANK GOD! I was starting to wonder if this place was getting soft! |
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Posted: 8/18/2004 12:15:52 PM EDT
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Prongs and Assholes should not be used in the same conversation. |
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Posted: 8/18/2004 12:18:28 PM EDT
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