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Posted: 3/3/2007 10:31:12 PM EDT
Hello all,
Over the last several years I've looked for simple solutions for my day and night vision mission needs that no one seemed to make. The first item was a simple picatinny tripod rail attachment I was making to mount surveillance gear for several years. This turned out to be a great success. The second item was a fixed beam IR Illuminator that was appropriately named "Da Torch" right here on the ARFCOM. The follow on, Da Variable Beam Torch has been a huge success story with hundreds of units being sold in its first month of release! It's gone on to be my best seller so far in accessory gear. The next critical mission item I’ve been prototyping over the last 2 years is a stand alone high quality simple scope ring with a small rail affixed to the top of the ring. A bit of history on the SARS on how they came about. In 1994, I had an incident where I was at 10x on the back of a house. A not so good guy popped up sorta speak at close range and it was a very disturbing situation with NO time to get on target. This is when I decided to get some sort of BUID on my scope. I virtually hand made my first unit out of a MKIV ring and welded a small weaver rail to it. I used a Optima 2000 back then which was really the only mini red dot sight game in town at that time. This is how I got the idea for the SAR and made numerous units to my local LE agencies. I am sure at the Shot Show one manufacturer has already decided to copy my free-floating design since I went public with the SAR early last year. Funny business this is. There are other products out there that now do this, but these designs either fix the rail as a primary and stationary scope cap ring or were a very low quality ring/rail systems. In most cases, manufactures located this rail cap directly on top of their ring causing tall scope turret obstruction, which limits the scope one might want to use and also making elevation and windage adjustments to the dot optic were extremely difficult while mounted on the weapon. Some makers offset a permanent scope cap rail to the right or left (too far), which requires too much head movement to view an optical dot during critical times. Most of these rail caps also required you to purchase the manufactures scope ring in order for the other rail top cap to fit and/or a specific dot brand due to their base. With that in mind, I embarked on this project with these requirements. 1. Ability to mount the entire ring and rail anywhere on the scope tube (mostly full size scopes). 2. Ability to mount the ring and rail at any angle I needed. 3. The scope ring rail also had to be short enough not to impede with the scope adjustments itself, but at that same time give me enough rail versatility to mount a host of small dot sights and IR illuminator devices for numerous mission call outs especially for bolt guns where no rail space exists on most platforms. 4. Lightweight, machined aluminum, hard anodized and able to withstand harsh recoil of firearms and ones bank account! Edited to add the weights of each unit, SAR1 = 1.1oz SAR2 = 1.3oz SAR3 = 1.0oz SAR4 = 1.1oz The Doctor Optic on its own with its weaver mount comes in at 2.1oz Well I am very happy to announce after 2 years of prototyping we came up with a design and found a manufacturing company to produce the SAR1, SAR2, and SAR3's. The SAR 1 is a 1” ring design, the SAR 3 is a 30mm design and the SAR4 is a 34mm design. The SAR 2 is not actually a scope ring, but a 5mm-11mm dovetail to picatinny rail attachment that eases the pain for you rimfire dovetail folks that have a need for a rail attachment. I've struggled with some awesome 22 rimfires and shotguns out there only to find out a picatinny type rail for my scopes and dot sights were virtually impossible to find for these dovetail receiver systems. Price for the SAR 1, 2 and 3's are at $79.00ea plus S/H. Price for the SAR4's are at $89.00ea plus S/H Of course I accept Visa, MC and Paypal with the 3% fee. MO, Cashiers Checks and pesonal checks (with clearence) also gladly accepted. (Dealer Inquiries Welcomed) I hope these units can helps those who need the versatility this ring may provide. I want to thank everyone who has purchased from Tactical Night Vision Company; It has been a pleasure doing business with you all! Be sure to see all my feeback listed in my Industry Section. TNVC Industry Section Enjoy the pics... Vic Here is our SAR 3 (30mm Model) ] Aimpoints amazing Micro T1 along for the ride on a SAR Notice the very low profile I held when one peaks through the Luepy's turrets! There is very miminal head movement when transitioning from the main optic to the dot. This was an important design aspect of the SAR. The SAR3 and pound for pound (really ounce for ounce) the best MRD to date is Aimpoints Micro T1. Here is the SAR2 5-11mm dovetail to picatinny rail attachment. You'll need a pair of these for normal dual ringed telescopic scope sytems. |
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So sowee Vic, I belatedly realized that the lugs don't matter for the jobs they're required to do: mounting of a miniature red dot sight. My Optima 2000 / JPoint mounts don't even have a recoil lug on the bottom, the mounts are tightened from the side via two Allen screws
My first instinct was that if the rails weren't Picatinney, I'd have problems using the Picatinney mounts I have, but come to think of it, what would I mount on that rail except a Docter, Jpoint, PF, etc.? Certainly not a Surefire, Aimpoint (even their new Mini red dot), EOtech or IR laser that would require a Picatinney rail. Count me in for one 30mm and a FirePoint |
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Agreed Duffy, that is why the dovetail system we did for mounting optical scopes of course has a full fledged mil-spec slot. This SAR1 and SAR3 rails will primarily be used for a host of red dot optics out there. I've tested the Doc Ops, JP's and FP's along with the older O2000 and they all work great on the SAR1 or SAR3's. For IR lasers illuminators (small adjustable beam proto units I am now working with) I also needed the best versatiity for limited space, escpecially for bolt guns.
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Cool mount! I been looking for a way I could mount a small laser (Beamshot, Aimshot) to my deer rifles.Believe me, it sucks when you run into a BIG PIG on the way to the deer stand, AND YOU HAVE NO WAY to aim your rifle while your NVD is on your head!!
Put me down for a one inch model. |
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Thank you very much Stickman! Thanks to the rest for the compliments as well guys. |
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Nice touch Vic....This ring will provide an option for those that alreay have an magnified optic solution and would like the addition of a MRD with having to invest in a new mount from LaRue or ARMS.
Especially for this bolt gunner when the real estate are like gold, you can simply add your mount and hook up a IR laser for long range shooting. This way you don;t have to invest in an over weight rail system like the M24A2. at 59.99 each, the price is not bad at all...especially for my SPR with a Lupy MR/T......:) |
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Thanks Chen, indeed there is a great value in this mount with it's versatility. I think it's going to serve the community well. |
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I am sending the initial build order this week with the special intro price to my ARFCOM customers. We should have the mounts 10 days after that along with a few end user reviews shortly thereafter! Thanks all!
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The FIRST production order of the FIRST SAR UNITS WENT IN TODAY!! I should have the units in house in approx. 10 days!! I'm excited about this product as you can tell, it WILL serve the community well. Thanks to all who have ordered! I should have an end-user review next week with one of the proto units.
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Wes was kind enough and lucky enough to receive the SAR1 and posted his thoughts below. Thanks Wes, happy hunting!!
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Got word units are shipped (still landning next week I'm told). I still have a few units left at the $59 bones price! Thanks for all the orders and inquiries.
Vic |
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The eagle will land on Friday! Tracking number on-hand!! I will be contacting all the folk who have pre-orderd for this special intro deal! Thanks all!
Vic |
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The EAGLE HAS LANDED!! I will contact everyone this weekend for payments and shipments! Thanks all!
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All pre-orders have been shipped! Thanks to all who have ordered. Full production models are now in stock for immediate deliveries. Thanks all!
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Customers are receiving their units. Thanks guys! |
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Going to try to get some mounted SAR2 pics up this weekend as well.
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Just wanted to post and say the SAR units are selling very well, lot's of folks are very happy with the units. Thanks to all who have purchased!
Vic |
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Hey Vic,
any 34mm SAR inbound ? ..... I'd need 5 of them PP out |
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Getting several requests lately on these! US Optics and NF tubes? |
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Nope , S&B 3-15x50 & 4-16x50 , the best glasses in town . PP out |
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Best price in town 2K plus? I would like to see a SAR on one of these! |
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Me too , so it's time you do a 34mm SAR now ! PP out |
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So much gear, so LITTLE time!! |
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Hey Vic,
nowday that , at last , even the USMC has 34mm tubes on their SWSs , I think you're going to have a great market for a 34mm SAR , so , come on , do it without loosing more time ! PP out |
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I'll see what I can do! |
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New shipment of SAR 3's inbound!
PincoPalla, I AM WORKING ON A 34MM!!! Should have the proto in a few weeks! |
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PP out |
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Nice new review of the SAR mounts here. www.militarymorons.com/weapons/ar.optics.html#sar Thanks!
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Here is the customers comments that supplied the Shotgun pics with the SAR3;
"Attached are several pics of my FNH SLP shotgun with an Insight M3X attached via your SAR-3 mount. The SLP has an external 30mm aluminum shroud covering the actual magazine tube and this proved to be a difficult mount for a light. The SAR-3 was the perfect solution." |
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They came in EARLY!! Vic |
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Last week I got my SAR1.
Now I am able to pimp up my StG77 A1 14 inch shorty a little by mounting an Aimpoint M2 on the top of the original 1.5x optic. The height is perfect for shooting with NODs (LUCIE) and gas masks. Great idea! Thanks Victor! I can highly recommend your mount! http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Hugin12/IMG_3253.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Hugin12/IMG_3254.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Hugin12/IMG_3252.jpg |
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How about making one at 35mm, I would love to put some on my IOR's.
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Woa, another application I did NOT envision!! Very nice setup especially for a head mounted NOD! Glad the SAR worked out so well for you! WS6LT4, no plans for a 35mm as yet. Vic |
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Damn... nobody seems to like us 35mm guys! |
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I do, just not the demand for 35mm SAR's as yet! |
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I beg to differ... I demand one!! |
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Dang, I walked right into that one! |
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Thanks to so many who have ordered the SARS! 34mm SAR still getting worked!
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Another half dozen SARS out to some San Diego Navy folk! You gents be safe out there!!!
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