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Posted: 8/2/2021 6:08:20 PM EDT
Hey, Primary Arms - continuing off of the SLX 1x microprism thread here. Any news on that 3x, even a rough ballpark timeline? I'd love to see a worthwhile ~$300 ACOG competitor that actually looks the part.
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Posted: 12/12/2022 5:37:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By speedracer422: I've been using the stock cantilever mount without issue, but I've admittedly only ran a few backyard drills and bench shot maybe less than 400ish rds all combined. I haven't noticed my poi change myself, but I like this optic so much I wanna use it as my go to shtf rifle optic... What's the link for the better aftermarket mount and/or did PA make any determination on the free one? I believe adm makes a dedicated mount for it now. Alternatively you can use a low mini acog mount with the PA spacers. |
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Posted: 12/12/2022 6:04:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Liaztraht]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By speedracer422: I've been using the stock cantilever mount without issue, but I've admittedly only ran a few backyard drills and bench shot maybe less than 400ish rds all combined. I haven't noticed my poi change myself, but I like this optic so much I wanna use it as my go to shtf rifle optic... What's the link for the better aftermarket mount and/or did PA make any determination on the free one? |
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Posted: 12/12/2022 6:08:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liaztraht: Originally Posted By speedracer422: I've been using the stock cantilever mount without issue, but I've admittedly only ran a few backyard drills and bench shot maybe less than 400ish rds all combined. I haven't noticed my poi change myself, but I like this optic so much I wanna use it as my go to shtf rifle optic... What's the link for the better aftermarket mount and/or did PA make any determination on the free one? Gracias freindo! |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2022 6:12:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Joedirt199]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenMushroom: The Scalarworks mount obscures most of the prism. With the rds it's a little over unity and is a little more usable but the bottom half of the window is obscured. I'm thinking a rds in a unity would probably be the ticket. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519824/20221212_130314-2633044.jpg The unity has a bridge in between the top hole and the bottom holes through the mount. May just be a pipe dream if the 3x can't really be mounted lower and still get a decent eye relief. Seems most people are mounting them cantilevered to the rear. Thanks for giving it a shot though. |
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Posted: 12/12/2022 6:27:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GreenMushroom]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joedirt199: The unity has a bridge in between the top hole and the bottom holes through the mount. May just be a pipe dream if the 3x can't really be mounted lower and still get a decent eye relief. Seems most people are mounting them cantilevered to the rear. Thanks for giving it a shot though. Yes. It seems to work with the unity through the sight channel. See other post. Eta my prism is at 1.5 give or take |
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Posted: 12/12/2022 9:18:17 PM EDT
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I ordered mine on the 9th and received it today! Bravo to PA for the fast shipping! Looks and feels like a solid piece of equipment. Glass is clear and the recticle looks larger to me in person than in the pictures and videos I have seen. I cant wait to take to the range.
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Posted: 12/12/2022 9:20:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Liaztraht]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenMushroom: Yes. It seems to work with the unity through the sight channel. See other post. Eta my prism is at 1.5 give or take Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenMushroom: Originally Posted By Joedirt199: The unity has a bridge in between the top hole and the bottom holes through the mount. May just be a pipe dream if the 3x can't really be mounted lower and still get a decent eye relief. Seems most people are mounting them cantilevered to the rear. Thanks for giving it a shot though. Yes. It seems to work with the unity through the sight channel. See other post. Eta my prism is at 1.5 give or take  For me, the wide FOV and tiny housing make shooting both eyes open easy peasy. Not quite BAC, but shifting eye dominance. While I considered a dot in the same way, I don't need It. |
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Posted: 12/12/2022 9:25:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By speedracer422: Gracias freindo! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By speedracer422: Originally Posted By Liaztraht: Originally Posted By speedracer422: I've been using the stock cantilever mount without issue, but I've admittedly only ran a few backyard drills and bench shot maybe less than 400ish rds all combined. I haven't noticed my poi change myself, but I like this optic so much I wanna use it as my go to shtf rifle optic... What's the link for the better aftermarket mount and/or did PA make any determination on the free one? Gracias freindo! I'm considering getting one, but I haven't had any issues with the regular B2 base and PA's high cantilever. Mines taken a few good wacks the few times I've slapped it on an airsoft gun and operated operationally mil-sim stile. Still zeroed perfectly when slapping it back on the lightweight carbine |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 12/12/2022 9:26:42 PM EDT
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I have tried that biden aiming stuff but my dominate eye takes over too much.
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Posted: 12/12/2022 9:32:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joedirt199: I have tried that biden aiming stuff but my dominate eye takes over too much. But thats also from growing up using 3-9x's on everything for hunting within 100 yards I'm still looking at options to have a dot without offsetting them, but nothing yet. I practice lefty sometimes, so a right side canted dot won't work. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/16/2022 6:42:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PBurns927: Care to shed some light on the lens cap solution that you implemented here? It looks like you added the ARD to the front of the SLx, and then used Butler Creek scope caps. If so, what sizes are they? I've been looking for a more robust solution than the flimsy bikini cover it comes with. butler creek O7 AND O2A are the caps i use |
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USA
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Posted: 12/16/2022 6:47:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By speedracer422: I've been using the stock cantilever mount without issue, but I've admittedly only ran a few backyard drills and bench shot maybe less than 400ish rds all combined. I haven't noticed my poi change myself, but I like this optic so much I wanna use it as my go to shtf rifle optic... What's the link for the better aftermarket mount and/or did PA make any determination on the free one? I sent my PA cantilever mount back because they asked to take a look since it wouldn't hold zero. They have since asked for the optic also but id rather not be optic-less and told them to keep the mount. The ADM is still holding perfect zero. |
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Posted: 12/27/2022 2:49:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jamess396: I sent my PA cantilever mount back because they asked to take a look since it wouldn't hold zero. They have since asked for the optic also but id rather not be optic-less and told them to keep the mount. The ADM is still holding perfect zero. Thanks for the heads up. I'm gonna try to run some harder drills in the mountains with mine and the stock mount and see how it goes before swapping mounts... maybe you're just a one off or something? I do have a tendency overtightened stuff though... maybe my shit is TOO solid lol 
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USA
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Posted: 1/1/2023 12:08:52 PM EDT
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Can this be run alone or do you need to run a red dot?
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Posted: 1/1/2023 12:14:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maelstrom6: Can this be run alone or do you need to run a red dot? For up close shooting, results may vary depending on your eyes and practice. Again, just like with an ACOG. It works for me, but I grew up hunting with 3-9x scopes in all typical ranges, so I'm used to magnification up close
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USA
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Posted: 1/1/2023 2:08:10 PM EDT
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Thanks for the reply.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2023 8:43:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenMushroom: Has 3 night vision settings. Glass is serviceable. Eyebox seems good. Daytime illumination isn't quite aimpoint bright but definitely more than "daylight visible". Fit and finish is nice and form factor is excellent. Overall my initial impression is it's an excellent value for the price. Eta seems to work well with my clip-on. Doesn't feel much different weight and balance wise than a lpvo setup. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519824/20220311_145147-2309941.jpghttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519824/20220311_145644-2309942.jpg What brand is your thermal/night vision optic? |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 10:04:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Joedirt199: I have tried that biden aiming stuff but my dominate eye takes over too much. In my experience when I try biden aiming the bullets (no matter what brand or quality, to include rounds like M193, M855, black hills 77 grain OTM, etc...) the rounds seem to get confused and either forgot where they are, or try to go get ice cream. |
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Posted: 1/13/2023 10:25:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewWind: In my experience when I try biden aiming the bullets (no matter what brand or quality, to include rounds like M193, M855, black hills 77 grain OTM, etc...) the rounds seem to get confused and either forgot where they are, or try to go get ice cream.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:43:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scout1502: What brand is your thermal/night vision optic? Bering super yoterC |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2023 1:04:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenMushroom: Interestingly the on this setup the PA sees right through the backup sight channel even with the aperture and post in place. The dot isn't tall enough though and you can only see it in the upper reaches of the window. I'm thinking an aimpoint rds would probably work. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/519824/20221212_124940-2633027.jpg Well I have a holoson 530 that would put the dot higher than the top of the prism body. Also was thinking about using a scope ring with reddot mount top ring so the view through the scope ring would be larger than the sight channel of the unity mount. Would look goofy but could function well. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 4:43:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Liaztraht]
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TOP MOUNTED DOT WILL FINALLY BE AN OPTION!!!
Addon similar to the offset mount, but 12 O'CLOCK, takes MOS plates. WORKS ON 3X AND 5X!!!  Attached FilePotential 90 days-ish release date.  |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 4:53:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liaztraht: TOP MOUNTED DOT WILL FINALLY BE AN OPTION!!! Addon similar to the offset mount, but 12 O'CLOCK, takes MOS plates. WORKS ON 3X AND 5X!!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/20230122_123938_jpg-2681792.JPG Potential 90 days-ish release date. Very nice. Are you making this? Iirc the new holosun scs is a direct bolt up and would sit nice and low. |
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Posted: 1/22/2023 4:54:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liaztraht: TOP MOUNTED DOT WILL FINALLY BE AN OPTION!!! Addon similar to the offset mount, but 12 O'CLOCK, takes MOS plates. WORKS ON 3X AND 5X!!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/20230122_123938_jpg-2681792.JPG Potential 90 days-ish release date. 
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Posted: 1/22/2023 4:58:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Liaztraht]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenMushroom: Very nice. Are you making this? Iirc the new holosun scs is a direct bolt up and would sit nice and low. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenMushroom: Originally Posted By Liaztraht: TOP MOUNTED DOT WILL FINALLY BE AN OPTION!!! Addon similar to the offset mount, but 12 O'CLOCK, takes MOS plates. WORKS ON 3X AND 5X!!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/20230122_123938_jpg-2681792.JPG Potential 90 days-ish release date. Very nice. Are you making this? Iirc the new holosun scs is a direct bolt up and would sit nice and low. Was browsing vids on YouTube, and it recommended an Arfcom channel video from shot show posted around an hour ago. PA dude pulled it out of a backpack after talking about the SLX Nova, 5x micro, and 6x magnifier. Jump to 16:34  Primary Arms | 6x Magnifier, Offset RDO Mount, 12 O'clock Reflex Mount, and More | SHOTShow 2023 Edit: with this, and the SCS, if they come out with a ring mount (like the PLX mount top cap but on a universal 30mm ring) I'm gonna have to buy two dots. One for the micro, and one for my GLX 2.5-10x
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Posted: 1/22/2023 5:02:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Liaztraht]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars: https://media3.giphy.com/media/BYhoMtJMQsYVy/giphy.gif?cid=2154d3d75h25h9krdo7elvg154x0bhqs3v5v3owq9dwaydqz&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars: Originally Posted By Liaztraht: TOP MOUNTED DOT WILL FINALLY BE AN OPTION!!! Addon similar to the offset mount, but 12 O'CLOCK, takes MOS plates. WORKS ON 3X AND 5X!!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/20230122_123938_jpg-2681792.JPG Potential 90 days-ish release date. https://media3.giphy.com/media/BYhoMtJMQsYVy/giphy.gif?cid=2154d3d75h25h9krdo7elvg154x0bhqs3v5v3owq9dwaydqz&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g  Edit: if they come out with a ring mount for scope tubes like this, I will have to get new pants
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Posted: 1/22/2023 6:19:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GreenMushroom]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liaztraht: PA is. Was browsing vids on YouTube, and it recommended an Arfcom channel video from shot show posted around an hour ago. PA dude pulled it out of a backpack after talking about the SLX Nova, 5x micro, and 6x magnifier. Jump to 16:34  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq33Kyu7pHUEdit: with this, and the SCS, if they come out with a ring mount (like the PLX mount top cap but on a universal 30mm ring) I'm gonna have to buy two dots. One for the micro, and one for my GLX 2.5-10x Looks like the mos plates are pretty thin and the PA mount looks nice and low. I have a dpp thats gonna end up being a spare. Would be sweet with a clip on in front of the prism and dpp at 12 for passive. Hopefully the 12 mount works with any of the spacers since a lot of us are using the cantilever spacers. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 5:01:32 AM EDT
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Feels bad to have recently got into the ACOG- I never wanna use anything else but these new prisms make a hell of a lot more sense for 99% of people now that they're gonna offer a top mounted dot option. Well done PA.
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NV, USA
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Posted: 1/24/2023 8:25:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liaztraht: TOP MOUNTED DOT WILL FINALLY BE AN OPTION!!! Addon similar to the offset mount, but 12 O'CLOCK, takes MOS plates. WORKS ON 3X AND 5X!!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/20230122_123938_jpg-2681792.JPG Potential 90 days-ish release date. Huzzah! Thats great news. Totally changes the game for these. |
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Posted: 1/24/2023 8:42:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Huzzah! Thats great news. Totally changes the game for these. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Originally Posted By Liaztraht: TOP MOUNTED DOT WILL FINALLY BE AN OPTION!!! Addon similar to the offset mount, but 12 O'CLOCK, takes MOS plates. WORKS ON 3X AND 5X!!! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/20230122_123938_jpg-2681792.JPG Potential 90 days-ish release date. Huzzah! Thats great news. Totally changes the game for these. Its supposedly so secret, they have to pull it out of a backpack. Only other tuber I saw mention it was Brass Facts, and even then he only alluded to it saying he wasn't sure if he could talk about it
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/25/2023 1:40:59 AM EDT
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I am basically going to buy the 5X Prism, the 12 o'clock mount, and the 6X magnifier whenever they are released
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USA
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Posted: 1/26/2023 2:02:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NewWind: Feels bad to have recently got into the ACOG- I never wanna use anything else but these new prisms make a hell of a lot more sense for 99% of people now that they're gonna offer a top mounted dot option. Well done PA. ACOG killer Same, but at least the ACOG still has the nicest glass. I'm sure the SLX glass is serviceable but I'm really a glass snob, especially with higher magnifications. Hopefully they'll do a GLx or PLx version, at least glass wise. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 8:00:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Samwali: Same, but at least the ACOG still has the nicest glass. I'm sure the SLX glass is serviceable but I'm really a glass snob, especially with higher magnifications. Hopefully they'll do a GLx or PLx version, at least glass wise. The 3X Microprism is better than it has any right to be at the price. I’d rate the old prism 40% of the ACOG’s quality. Maybe even less as it really is pretty bad past 150 yards. I’d rate the Microprism at maybe 70%. I think the smaller objective and field of view plays a huge part in that too. It’s literally the first Chinese magnified optic I’ve ever looked through with no 100 yard chromatic abberation. I thought I saw some at around 400 yards but couldn’t get it to replicate so I don’t want to say it has none, just as a safety net. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 9:41:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: The 3X Microprism is better than it has any right to be at the price. I'd rate the old prism 40% of the ACOG's quality. Maybe even less as it really is pretty bad past 150 yards. I'd rate the Microprism at maybe 70%. I think the smaller objective and field of view plays a huge part in that too. It's literally the first Chinese magnified optic I've ever looked through with no 100 yard chromatic abberation. I thought I saw some at around 400 yards but couldn't get it to replicate so I don't want to say it has none, just as a safety net. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Originally Posted By Samwali: Same, but at least the ACOG still has the nicest glass. I'm sure the SLX glass is serviceable but I'm really a glass snob, especially with higher magnifications. Hopefully they'll do a GLx or PLx version, at least glass wise. The 3X Microprism is better than it has any right to be at the price. I'd rate the old prism 40% of the ACOG's quality. Maybe even less as it really is pretty bad past 150 yards. I'd rate the Microprism at maybe 70%. I think the smaller objective and field of view plays a huge part in that too. It's literally the first Chinese magnified optic I've ever looked through with no 100 yard chromatic abberation. I thought I saw some at around 400 yards but couldn't get it to replicate so I don't want to say it has none, just as a safety net. Damn good value with damn good performance. |
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Posted: 2/8/2023 1:12:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: voyager40]
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Does anyone know of any higher quality crossbolts for the mount? I had one of the bolts shear off leaving a broken piece in the mount so I sent PA an email with pics, order# etc requesting a new mount. I like the mount but don't really trust the crossbolts anymore. What thread pattern are they and are there any higher quality ones I can buy online?
Torqued to 55 inch pounds with blue 242 loctite by the way, the bolt shot out of the mount and hit my ceiling. |
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Posted: 2/8/2023 1:26:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager40: Does anyone know of any higher quality crossbolts for the mount? I had one of the bolts shear off leaving a broken piece in the mount so I sent PA an email with pics, order# etc requesting a new mount. I like the mount but don't really trust the crossbolts anymore. What thread pattern are they and are there any higher quality ones I can buy online? Torqued to 55 inch pounds with blue 242 loctite by the way, the bolt shot out of the mount and hit my ceiling. |
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Posted: 2/8/2023 9:21:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liaztraht: Could just be a bad screw. I don't recall if there was a spec posted in this thread, but @PrimaryArms should be able to help. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liaztraht: Originally Posted By voyager40: Does anyone know of any higher quality crossbolts for the mount? I had one of the bolts shear off leaving a broken piece in the mount so I sent PA an email with pics, order# etc requesting a new mount. I like the mount but don't really trust the crossbolts anymore. What thread pattern are they and are there any higher quality ones I can buy online? Torqued to 55 inch pounds with blue 242 loctite by the way, the bolt shot out of the mount and hit my ceiling. Jesus man lol. Their MDX-25 use the same screws. No issues so far. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 10:27:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voyager40: Does anyone know of any higher quality crossbolts for the mount? I had one of the bolts shear off leaving a broken piece in the mount so I sent PA an email with pics, order# etc requesting a new mount. I like the mount but don't really trust the crossbolts anymore. What thread pattern are they and are there any higher quality ones I can buy online? Torqued to 55 inch pounds with blue 242 loctite by the way, the bolt shot out of the mount and hit my ceiling. 50-60 inch pounds is the correct specs, did our customer service team get you taken care of? |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 1:54:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PrimaryArms: 50-60 inch pounds is the correct specs, did our customer service team get you taken care of? Yeah they're sending a new mount, thanks. |
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Posted: 2/9/2023 6:09:40 PM EDT
[#40]
Remember wet torque and dry torque are different things as well. A solid rule of thumb is wet torque values are ~25-30% lower than dry, although I'm not sure which value PA uses.
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Posted: 2/9/2023 10:56:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: voyager40]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorthPolar: Remember wet torque and dry torque are different things as well. A solid rule of thumb is wet torque values are ~25-30% lower than dry, although I'm not sure which value PA uses. That's likely what caused the bolt to break, I just saw a few articles that say to reduce torque by 20-25% when using wet threadlocker as opposed to a clean dry bolt or a bolt with dry/hardened threadlocker already on it. The scope comes with a little packet of Vibratite VC-3 which is equivalent to blue loctite but VC-3 hardens when exposed to air and you're supposed to put it on the bolt and wait 15-20 minutes for it to harden before installing the bolt. As well all the other bolts included have hardened blue threadlocker on them so the torque specs in the scope manual must be for dry bolts. Edit: I got the new mount and mounted the scope today(2/13). I didn't want to risk shearing another bolt so I reduced the manual's torque specs by 30% for the smaller bolts that attach the mount to the riser and the mount crossbolts and used 242 liquid threadlocker, just over the 15 mark on my Wheeler FAT wrench for the small bolts and just over 35 for the crossbolts. The manual says 25-30 for the small bolts and 55-60 for the crossbolts. Nothing broke or stripped and it feels solid. |
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Posted: 2/16/2023 4:02:45 PM EDT
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Has anyone used these with NV? How did it work? What mount do / did you use? Anyone tried use something like a Holosun 407/507 pistol red dot as offset? Or does the 3X work fine and offset RDS is not needed? I have been reading for months and not purchased one. I was Eotech / Aimpoint only for years. Now, I need budget options. With the 5X coming, would you wait and do …….?
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Posted: 2/18/2023 1:31:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoe17: Has anyone used these with NV? How did it work? What mount do / did you use? Anyone tried use something like a Holosun 407/507 pistol red dot as offset? Or does the 3X work fine and offset RDS is not needed? I have been reading for months and not purchased one. I was Eotech / Aimpoint only for years. Now, I need budget options. With the 5X coming, would you wait and do …….? I no longer have NV so can't answer. But I love the little 3x and will be buying the 5 when available. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2023 1:59:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liaztraht: For up close shooting, results may vary depending on your eyes and practice. Again, just like with an ACOG. To be honest, imho it can be run much better for close up both eyes open than an ACOG (at least than the Chevron version). Less magnification, better eye relief + better ilumination with the big donut. I have done some super serious operator room clearing stuff in my basement and living room in all lighting conditions as well as a solid amout of dry firing and found no need for a dot whatsoever. |
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Posted: 2/18/2023 2:04:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Baq: To be honest, imho it can be run much better for close up both eyes open than an ACOG (at least than the Chevron version). Less magnification, better eye relief + better ilumination with the big donut. I have done some super serious operator room clearing stuff in my basement and living room in all lighting conditions as well as a solid amout of dry firing and found no need for a dot whatsoever. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Baq: Originally Posted By Liaztraht: For up close shooting, results may vary depending on your eyes and practice. Again, just like with an ACOG. To be honest, imho it can be run much better for close up both eyes open than an ACOG (at least than the Chevron version). Less magnification, better eye relief + better ilumination with the big donut. I have done some super serious operator room clearing stuff in my basement and living room in all lighting conditions as well as a solid amout of dry firing and found no need for a dot whatsoever. My 14.5 with the micro 3x is currently at my bedside, as there is a known armed thief roaming my area. I have no issues with it up close, and even if the lower level illumination is washed out from my weapon light, the bold donut is still easy to pick up. |
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Posted: 2/19/2023 2:14:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GreenMushroom]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoe17: Has anyone used these with NV? How did it work? What mount do / did you use? Anyone tried use something like a Holosun 407/507 pistol red dot as offset? Or does the 3X work fine and offset RDS is not needed? I have been reading for months and not purchased one. I was Eotech / Aimpoint only for years. Now, I need budget options. With the 5X coming, would you wait and do …….? Looking through magnified optics with a helmet mount sucks in general imo but the reticle is very crisp so it would probably do ok with 2 tubes. I didn't really mess with it for very long. I'll bet the 1x version is pretty good. Best bet for passive is the 12 dot mount they're talking about. |
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Posted: 2/26/2023 6:18:37 PM EDT
[#47]
Just ordered my second one, this time in FDE.
Has anyone used the Arisaka 35 degree offset with this? Pretty sure it will, but would be nice to know it clears for sure. |
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Posted: 3/1/2023 11:43:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-]
[#48]
Got the new cantilever ADM mount in today. FDE and it’s blatantly obvious these were made for the MP’s and not ACOG’s. Lines up perfectly everywhere.
Also got my second 3X MP, this time in FDE. With the Magpul MBUS Gen III I can get it a couple slots further back over the Gen II. Will try and check how it compares to the regular mount placement wise as the profile on the ADM means it’s a little more forgiving on overlap with the new MBUS. It’s touching the MBUS Gen III but you can still pull a piece of paper out from between them. Almost like they designed it around them.  ETA: Factory mount with Gen II MBUS versus ADM AD-B2-C and Gen III MBUS.  
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Posted: 3/2/2023 12:48:08 AM EDT
[#49]
Same sight height?
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Posted: 3/2/2023 12:55:50 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -OdieGreen-: Got the new cantilever ADM mount in today. FDE and it's blatantly obvious these were made for the MP's and not ACOG's. Lines up perfectly everywhere. Also got my second 3X MP, this time in FDE. With the Magpul MBUS Gen III I can get it a couple slots further back over the Gen II. Will try and check how it compares to the regular mount placement wise as the profile on the ADM means it's a little more forgiving on overlap with the new MBUS. It's touching the MBUS Gen III but you can still pull a piece of paper out from between them. Almost like they designed it around them. https://i.ibb.co/JkccsN0/D6-B4-D87-A-DD8-F-4-CE2-A6-B8-75625-FD5-B035.jpg ETA: Factory mount with Gen II MBUS versus ADM AD-B2-C and Gen III MBUS. https://i.ibb.co/r2B27TS/1-B489-FDB-22-A4-4-C23-858-E-CBF66-D2-C7404.jpg https://i.ibb.co/vPKVR3t/EDA88627-C2-BD-46-BC-91-E5-00-E3-B1-AE11-EE.jpg Gonna have to replace my current ADM base at some point if it works that way with the pros
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