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Posted: 10/19/2004 6:25:21 PM EDT
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You have to remember an EXTREMELY low percentage of folks go out of their way to comment on the positive... It's not surprising to see more complaints than praise for any company.
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Posted: 10/19/2004 6:27:20 PM EDT
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I also got great service from M1S. I ordered a fluted 16" barreled upper recently. They didn't have the fluted in stock and called me to see if I wanted the standard barrel instead. I said I didn't mind waiting but I appreciated the attention. It was only 5 days later that they had the barrel in stock, and shipped it to me. I had them thread the barrel also and I purchased a flash hider. They shipped it installed! This to me is good service.
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Posted: 10/19/2004 6:29:36 PM EDT
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Wait till you put some shots through the thing before you start talking about the product quality.
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Posted: 10/19/2004 6:33:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2004 6:34:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2004 6:35:49 PM EDT
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If you do some research on here. Some of the problems with parts quality came after everal hundred to 1500+ shots. |
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Posted: 10/19/2004 7:01:23 PM EDT
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I like Model 1 as well. I can't justify paying a bunch more for something that may be the same part. What I've got from them looks great, and they were polite with me as well. I plan 3 more build with their parts in the comeing week.
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Posted: 10/19/2004 7:29:40 PM EDT
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I got their 16" A3 car kit with the 1/8 ss barrel and ff tube, and it shoots great, I put a 1k rounds of 62 gr. wolf through it in 8 days with only 1 problem, the gas key loosened up after 400rnds or so, but it was a simple fix, just tighten the screws and restaked them, no problems since.
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Posted: 10/19/2004 7:39:37 PM EDT
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I had the gas key shoot loose on a J&T kit, which has better general feedback than M1S. A few weeks ago I built a M1S M4. I am very pleased with it after about 600 rounds. I would have bought J&T again, but they do not offer an option I thought I had to have- an M4 barrel extension and feedramp cuts in the upper. Can't say why I needed it, but not all gun purchase decisions are rational ones.
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Posted: 10/19/2004 7:44:37 PM EDT
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right! |
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Posted: 10/19/2004 7:49:09 PM EDT
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I have had nothing but positive results from Model1.
Great company- 5 kits and thousands of rounds later I still agree, |
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Posted: 10/20/2004 2:41:39 AM EDT
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Perhaps Model 1 Sales HAS decided to join us here on ARFcom for some damage control...  The tone of this poster makes one wonder if the source of the 'whining' email has been found...  www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=277277 |
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Posted: 10/20/2004 5:03:40 AM EDT
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Gas keys get loose, sometimes. It happens on any brand of bolt carrier... and is not really a sign of quality to me. The only brand I havent seen come loose is Colt (even tho it pains me to say that) but I am sure even a Colt has worked loose a time or two.
As far as Model 1 goes.... thats neat you had good experience. The place where model 1 has BIG trouble is when something is not 100% with your order, and you have to send something back, etc.... thats when they turn into real jerks. Read the many posts here. I am sure there are thusands of happy customers.... who didnt have any problems and got what they ordered. However, M1S has shown their rudeness and lock of customer service so many times with so many people.... you ONE good experience (however valid) does not excuse their previous behavior. Also....
Well.... thats just stupid.  Glad you had a good experience. As they are a volume leader in parts, I am sure there will continue to me many thousdands of kits ordered from users here..... and I am sure there will be many hundereds who arent as happy. PS.... I could be wrong.... but based on your other post... I smell a
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Posted: 10/20/2004 5:10:09 AM EDT
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troll [/cough] If you're sincere, hey, that's great. Next time you talk to your friends at model 1 sales, ask them when I can expect that phone call they owe me confirming that they found my upper I sent them back TWO MONTHS AGO and that my refund is on its way...... 
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Posted: 10/20/2004 5:26:39 AM EDT
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i have had very good luck with model 1 sales over quite a few years, no problems but this it a legitimate complaint, i would like to see this resolved |
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Posted: 10/20/2004 5:35:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2004 8:04:17 AM EDT
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DarkStar-I was thinking the same thing. His first post is about model1 having such good customer service. Kind of convenient with all the bad posts about model1.
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Posted: 10/20/2004 9:25:06 AM EDT
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That's amazing, anybody who doesn'tsay Model 1 sucks must be a troll. I was thinking about getting a Model 1 M4 kit and if I do and like it I better not mention it or I'll get gang-banged with insults from the anti-Model 1 members here too. It wasn't like he said, they are the best ever, I've shot 10,000 rounds with no failures, every other kit sucks, etc, he just said their customer service was good and that the kit looks good.
A lot of people say ASA sucks and I'm sure they do, but that doesn't mean there aren't some people happy with them. I wouldn't think Model 1 was in the same lower league as ASA. |
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Posted: 10/20/2004 10:03:27 AM EDT
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I dont see if someone can complain about a company's bad practices, then someone elseshould not be able to applaud a company for great service as well. My dealings with Model 1 were good at first , untill parts started failing in the rifle(Bolt catch got stuck during a tactical shoot class). Then a bolt broke at under 1500 rds(A friend with a kit purchased around the same time broke in under 1000 rds). So I would have been the same, applauding Model 1 for the first month, then cursing the quality of their lower parts and bolts later. But to Model 1's credit, they did offer to replace every broken part providing you sent the broken part in. |
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Posted: 10/20/2004 1:32:13 PM EDT
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I've had very good service from Model 1. I had one broken part and they replaced it with no problem. Most of the stuff I've put together is their products and other than the one broken part, everything else works fine. I avg 4-5 thousand rounds thru my ARs during a plate shoot season so my guns don't sit in the safe.
Sorry others haven't had the same experience. |
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Posted: 10/20/2004 3:03:10 PM EDT
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Kinda funny first for a first post, I have no experience with the company, other than some slow service at a funshow. In case nobody has caught on -- sounds like a little "schilling" as they call it on another board?? Bend Over, Here It Comes Again ......... Missed you at the last show, did not see the blue duelie with trailer sitting up to door waiting to unload for show. |
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Posted: 10/20/2004 3:50:05 PM EDT
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bohica is what I had stenciled on my vehicle when I did my time for uncle sam, I want to say just about every vehicle we had in our unit had it someplace lol - I never enjoyed working with brits so it made since to me to use bohica007 as a name.
whats funny is you griefers who have to suspect theres something wrong with getting treated decent - As you have shown to me your attitude is the only thing getting you bad service. Thanks to all who have also posted about the decent treatment they got, hopefully other people will see and realize that there are a bunch of griefers trying to cause somebody lack of sales for no other reason then they have a single so called bad experience - what kit did you buy griefers???? Anyhow - hope to add some pics from my shoot tomorrow - oh btw thanks for the welcome griefers |
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Posted: 10/20/2004 3:52:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/20/2004 6:05:44 PM EDT
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Just got my upper half today from M1S 7 days after I ordered it. I think it is great and fast shipping. Looks great. The only problem is that I STILL do not know how much the shipping was. It was never told to me and It has not posted to my CC at this time. Still would deal with them again.hippie.gif
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Posted: 10/20/2004 8:19:02 PM EDT
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Well, I finally received my Ameetec lower today that I ordered to go with my M1S M4 I received a few weeks ago. The LPK went together without a hitch. The upper and lower mate up tighter than my MN RRA rifle. I am very pleased with the color match. I as well received excellent service when I ordered mine. My kit shipped the day I ordered it and I had it in less than 48 hours (standard shipping). They even called me back the day I ordered it because of a mix up on the CC #'s. Granted I haven't shot it yet, but based on the above I'd order from them again. As far as the Ameetec goes, I'd order another one of those as well. It is a quality lower for $90 shipped. And you just gotta love $5 transfer fees.
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Posted: 10/21/2004 2:25:41 AM EDT
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My dealings with Model 1 is good. They have a good customer service and they make it right if there is a problem with the kit you got. No questions asked. That's the reason why I'm on my 6th kit with them and will get some more in the future.
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Posted: 10/21/2004 4:58:15 AM EDT
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Another positive on Model 1. I bought a plain jane 20" HBAR about 18 months ago. Shipping was fast, all the parts where included, and although I had some fitting problems with the lower, it had nothing to do with the parts I received from M1S. The lower was SLIGHTLY out of spec. Nothing a little Dremmel work could not cure. In 3000 rounds, I've had no failures that were not caused by the crappy 2.00 25yo gunshow surplus mags. BTW, 2800 of those rounds where 55gr Wolf.
Anyway, I will probably order from Model 1 again when I build my M4gery later on this year. To me, that is the best endorsement that I can give. ka |
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Posted: 10/21/2004 4:58:15 AM EDT
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I too am happy with my M1S M4 kit. But I think upper to lower fit is a gamble with any AR. My J&T kit upper fits much tighter to a DPMS lower than the M1S fits to an Ameetec lower. All uppers and lowers have allowable tolerances in the machining process. I felt a used Colt at the gunshow last weekend. Fit was about as loose as the one I have with the M1S. I guess that is why they make Accuwedges. The wedge makes the M1S/Ameetec combo feel really snug.
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:31:57 AM EDT
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What seperates a good company from a bad company is not how they treat you when things go well; it's how they treat you when there is a problem!
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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:37:57 AM EDT
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tactical man hit it right on the head. ive never had anything but good treatment from M1S, however someones first post being glowing priase for a company looks fishy. especially in light of all the recent M1S drama....
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Posted: 10/21/2004 9:19:36 AM EDT
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What Model 1 sales drama? Did I miss something?
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Posted: 10/21/2004 10:54:47 AM EDT
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What? You think it odd that after model1 sales getting shelled on theboards for screwing up a member's order, a new guy joins the board and with his first post offers unsolicited, unabashed praise for model1sales?? Damn your cold, cynical heart! 
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Posted: 11/8/2004 3:04:13 PM EDT
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Model1sales chews the lint off of an arab fucked camel ass.
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Posted: 11/8/2004 3:06:13 PM EDT
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That's a good point. |
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Posted: 11/8/2004 5:49:14 PM EDT
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I couldnt say it better. |
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Posted: 11/8/2004 8:19:16 PM EDT
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I have built many kits from M1. 0 malfunctions. As for accuracy- I just free floated an M1 barrel- with a Leupold 2-7x33mm I was grouping 1-1.5 inches at 200M. Praise Model One. Great product and excellent service. Price cannot be beat. |
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Posted: 11/9/2004 7:50:05 AM EDT
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I'll have to disagree with you about their service. I'm glad you're happy with them, though. |
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Posted: 11/9/2004 4:05:27 PM EDT
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I've put 2000 rounds though my M1S M4gery with no problems at all. The only thing I did was replace the trigger and hammer springs to lighten the trigger pull. Great weapon n fun to shoot. I will buy from M1S again. 
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Posted: 11/9/2004 7:20:17 PM EDT
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Keep digging. You're not doing well here so far, but that's ok. If you're sincere, you've chosen a bad time to show up and post what you did. Not your fault, but if you can't handle some abject disagreement with your experience, well, buy a helmet. That or log off the internet. In the mean time, glad your deal worked out with M1S, but their piss poor attitude to others here has made me feel differently. If you're related to M1S or its sister/brother/incestualsiblings, well, FOAD. BTW, why isn't this in the feedback forum Aimless? |
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Posted: 11/10/2004 8:59:48 AM EDT
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I think it's time for an FAQ covering all the industry 'connections'. |
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Posted: 11/10/2004 9:17:09 AM EDT
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Not exactly an FAQ, but the original company is Nesard. The Nesard Clan of Fried Chicken is now DBA Model 1 Sales, M&A Parts, and Sherluck. Sun Valley/ASA is also related to the Nesard Clan by a marriage, most likely performed at the local Kentucky Fried Chicken... If the whole chicken thing is throwing you, it's an old gun show joke... check out this thread... www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=277277 |
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Posted: 11/10/2004 9:26:33 AM EDT
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Tweak knows all that, he posted it before |
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Posted: 11/10/2004 1:34:42 PM EDT
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I like M1S. Ordered from them before and had no issues. However, they're about 1 week behind on shipping now. Kinda sucks, ordered my stuff on this Monday (Nov 8) and they say it won't ship until next monday. Kinda sucks.
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Posted: 11/10/2004 4:39:26 PM EDT
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I'm glad you had a good experience with them but not everyone does.
I wont coment on quality because the guy that answered the phone when I called to place an order was so rude to me I put my CC back in my wallet. Which lost them right at 1200. bucks. And yes I know theres an A-hole at every company but he doesn't have to man the phones. I was in a good mood ready to spend money so he had no reason to be rude to me. I am a small time ffl holder who has spoken on the phone with people from RRA DPMS BUSHMSTER and even COLT. Who I'm sure my small amount of buisness means virtually nothing too. But M1 sales gets my vote for the rudest I have ever almost dealt with. And if you call sticking it in you on shipping and bumping you ahead of other people who have ordered already good customer service I don't think you comprehend what customer service is. |
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Posted: 11/11/2004 3:35:35 AM EDT
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I guess i should also state that i've never bought any barrells or kits from them. Just parts.
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Posted: 11/11/2004 7:47:27 AM EDT
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I am happy with the XM177 kit I bought from them. It functions fine and does everything the way it is supposed to. The only trouble I have had was the bolt catch is too tight in the (stripped LAR) lower. I don't know who to blame that on so I just cleaned it up myself.
I will probably be buying another M1S kit soon. |
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Posted: 11/11/2004 7:47:58 AM EDT
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Oops, doubletap.
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Posted: 11/11/2004 8:14:59 AM EDT
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I should be getting a 24" 1 in 8 SS Varmint upper today from them. So far I think the service has been good they were very willing to answer any and all questions that I had. The only thing I would like to see from them is an E-Mail confirmation stating that your stuff has been sent and the tracking number. I had to call them to get the tracking info. But as it was said earlier customer service is measured on how you are treated when and if there is a problem. I will post again on quality of parts and accuracy after I get to shoot it
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