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Posted: 4/3/2016 8:40:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TCBA_Joe]
Since the original thread got locked on OP request...
https://www.ar15.com/forums/t_5_13/166746_Official_Roland_Special_Glock_19_thread___.html I thought it was an interesting discussion and I'm not sure why the OP requested a lock. While many seem to think that you just leave a Glock alone, it seems the best pistol shooters in the world have decided to put together their own custom guns. Pistol Forum discussion G&A Article There was a good thread on Primary and Secondary but you have to register to see it. 12/23/16 Update: I'm updating this thread a bit to include the term "fauxland special". The Roland special is a very specific setup: Glock 19 with frame work and slide milling, stock internals, KKM bbl and comp, Trijicon RMR, and an X300U. What about pistols following this functional theme but not actually being Roland Specials? Unlike a clone AR thread that balks at "inspired-by builds" I'm amending this thread it to include similar glocks that deviate from the specific configuration but fill the overall function: RDS and comp equipped Glocks that aren't competition oriented "open-class" rigs. G17s, ATOM/ZEV/etc slides, other optics, upgraded triggers and internals, TBRCI comps, non-KKM barrels, non-x300u lights, lonewolf/P80/CCF frames etc... do not a Roland make, but they are functional equivalents that are being termed "faux-lands". 
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OH, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2021 11:08:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/29/2021 2:26:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Just got my frame back from LFI. Couldn't be happier and can finally say the Roland is done. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/003D76C4-9963-46AF-8AF2-01350AD9DB59_jpe-1912448.JPG Sending one of my Gen 3 frames on Monday, thanks for the referral. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 8/17/2021 3:39:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lucky_Day]
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Posted: 8/27/2021 11:05:49 PM EDT
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So has any one else ran into the issue of their 6354DO not securing their Roland?
Now, I'm not taking about the modifications required to the hood and locking mechanism, as that's already done. If I put rearward pressure on my glock, I can pull it out w/o having to disengage the locking mechanism. I'm assuming this has to do w/ the double undercut trigger guard allowing more tolerance for the pistol to move in to holster?? My g22 w/ an x200 fits just fine. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2021 1:37:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 135Patriots]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: So has any one else ran into the issue of their 6354DO not securing their Roland? Now, I'm not taking about the modifications required to the hood and locking mechanism, as that's already done. If I put rearward pressure on my glock, I can pull it out w/o having to disengage the locking mechanism. I'm assuming this has to do w/ the double undercut trigger guard allowing more tolerance for the pistol to move in to holster?? My g22 w/ an x200 fits just fine. Still weird though. Unless the trigger guard is *really* aggressively reshaped I can't imagine it creating that much more room for up and down play. |
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Posted: 8/28/2021 1:52:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: Is there a lot of vertical play/slop? That's the only thing I can think of. I had a similar experience albeit with a totally different pistol. Tried to fit a 1911 commander+RDS+X300U into an M&P ALS and while it fit nicely, there was too much vertical play for it to be secure. Cinching down the holster with the adjustment screw did the trick. Still weird though. Unless the trigger guard is *really* aggressively reshaped I can't imagine it creating that much more room for up and down play. pic for refrence:  Attached File |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 9/4/2021 12:43:49 PM EDT
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Well if I can snag one I'm gonna try the PMM 43x micro comp. Baby Foland coming.
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Posted: 9/9/2021 12:13:35 AM EDT
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/13/2021 11:07:07 PM EDT
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Working on my own Foland. Got this Boresight slide cut for Unity ATOM 2.0, but Unity says that Boresight doesnt have the specs so idk what the hell i have. Just needs an ACRO plate and some smaller stuff
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Posted: 9/13/2021 11:55:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigdik3006: Working on my own Foland. Got this Boresight slide cut for Unity ATOM 2.0, but Unity says that Boresight doesnt have the specs so idk what the hell i have. Just needs an ACRO plate and some smaller stuff https://i.imgur.com/xw4Qpbh.jpg Bold getting an ATOM 2.0 cut considering 2.0 has no support and hasn't been released yet. Is it the original ATOM cut? Do you have more pictures of the slide cuts? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/14/2021 2:00:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bigdik3006]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Bold getting an ATOM 2.0 cut considering 2.0 has no support and hasn't been released yet. Is it the original ATOM cut? Do you have more pictures of the slide cuts? Its definitely not the original ATOM as they use two screws on either side to secure the plate to the slide. It looks to be the 2.0 cut from all available pics but I havent taken the plate off yet to verify. Unity is also looking into it. I figured since Unity still says they’re going to release the 2.0 and support it, I may as well get ahead of it. I liked the idea of the original ATOM and i like Unity so im happy to support them if i can |
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Posted: 9/14/2021 3:44:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigdik3006: Its definitely not the original ATOM as they use two screws on either side to secure the plate to the slide. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/14/2021 11:26:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoshAston: Original ATOM only uses a single screw on the left side. You’re right, i misspoke. Its been a while since i’ve had one. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 9/16/2021 1:16:49 PM EDT
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As an update for anyone interested:
Per Unity, my slide is in fact a pre-production ATOM 2.0 that was done by Boresight for a handful of his close associates. It may have slightly different specs than the final production slides/plates. Super cool item that i was lucky enough to wind up with |
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KS, USA
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Posted: 10/22/2021 12:00:13 AM EDT
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is the Freya for gen 3/4 g19's still made? i need one in my life lol
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Posted: 10/22/2021 1:17:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Carbon244: is the Freya for gen 3/4 g19's still made? i need one in my life lol No. I've only seen for the standard sized Gen 4 frames. |
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Posted: 10/25/2021 8:20:41 PM EDT
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I kind of buggered the slide and comp during the install, but, it's a tool, not a treasure.
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USA
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Posted: 10/26/2021 8:41:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sonoran_Tj: My 43x is set up like a mini-Roland. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276110/20210616_095919_jpg-1979856.JPG Arc Division Sparc comp Griffin threaded barrel Empire PBF Katana mag well Shield mags and mag catch Overwatch PolyDAT trigger I plan on getting a light for it but haven't decided which one yet. I also want the Parker Mountain Machine compensator/barrel but they haven't released it yet. @Sonoran_Tj What back up sights are those? Looks like they barely clear the option which is what im after. |
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Posted: 10/26/2021 9:01:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sogan: @Sonoran_Tj What back up sights are those? Looks like they barely clear the option which is what im after. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sogan: Originally Posted By Sonoran_Tj: My 43x is set up like a mini-Roland. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276110/20210616_095919_jpg-1979856.JPG Arc Division Sparc comp Griffin threaded barrel Empire PBF Katana mag well Shield mags and mag catch Overwatch PolyDAT trigger I plan on getting a light for it but haven't decided which one yet. I also want the Parker Mountain Machine compensator/barrel but they haven't released it yet. @Sonoran_Tj What back up sights are those? Looks like they barely clear the option which is what im after. Ameriglo 429 |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/28/2021 9:32:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lucky_Day]
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Posted: 11/2/2021 2:45:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2021 5:08:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: I'm pretty stoked that I found a Freya.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283502/20211101_201139_jpg-2152072.JPG 
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Posted: 11/2/2021 11:38:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: I'm pretty stoked that I found a Freya. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/283502/20211101_201139_jpg-2152072.JPG Nice. |
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Posted: 11/2/2021 3:42:49 PM EDT
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 Attached FileRight: Glock 22 Gen 4 TBRC comp X300 Aimpoint T1 on a RCS Balor mount Left Glock 45 Aimpoint ACRO X300 KKM barrel and comp |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/3/2021 6:21:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Lucky_Day]
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Choo choo. Finally got to run this out today. No issues, the PMM comp is impressive.
https://youtube.com/shorts/087H5AlhvHM?feature=share |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/4/2021 4:18:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucky_Day: Here's what 7 grains of HS-6 + RMR 124 jhp looks like lol. https://m.imgur.com/a/ziqEOQL Major PF? I got that kind of recoil out of my RS320 when I randomly tried Polycase Inceptor RNP 65g +P loads one day at the range. Gun literally felt like it wasn’t moving in my hands it was so flat, the only way I knew the gun had gone off was the ridiculous blast and the ejected case |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 11/5/2021 12:09:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rudukai13: Major PF? I got that kind of recoil out of my RS320 when I randomly tried Polycase Inceptor RNP 65g +P loads one day at the range. Gun literally felt like it wasn't moving in my hands it was so flat, the only way I knew the gun had gone off was the ridiculous blast and the ejected case Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rudukai13: Originally Posted By Lucky_Day: Here's what 7 grains of HS-6 + RMR 124 jhp looks like lol. https://m.imgur.com/a/ziqEOQL Major PF? I got that kind of recoil out of my RS320 when I randomly tried Polycase Inceptor RNP 65g +P loads one day at the range. Gun literally felt like it wasn't moving in my hands it was so flat, the only way I knew the gun had gone off was the ridiculous blast and the ejected case I've never loaded anything under 115 but yah steel challenge guys get crazy velocity (like 1400+) with 90-95gr. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 11/10/2021 10:47:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AKSU]
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/4/2021 7:32:21 PM EDT
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Anyone experiencing issues with a kkm barrel and comp where the weapon doesn't fire? The striker is hitting the primer, but it seems like its a weak strike and just not enough to fire.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/4/2021 7:33:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RMcKean: Anyone experiencing issues with a kkm barrel and comp where the weapon doesn't fire? The striker is hitting the primer, but it seems like its a weak strike and just not enough to fire. |
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Posted: 12/4/2021 8:04:26 PM EDT
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Anyone here have experience with kkm comped 22s? Do you run into similar problems as comped 9mm or is it hot enough not to be finicky?
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CO, USA
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Posted: 12/9/2021 5:44:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Anyone here have experience with kkm comped 22s? Do you run into similar problems as comped 9mm or is it hot enough not to be finicky? It should be less finicky on just about anything other than specifically reduced-recoil light target loads. It’ll still have the same basic principles and preferences though, it’ll work better with loads using light or medium weight projectiles and higher pressures |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 8:36:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: manji]
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/25/2021 12:21:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By manji: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33932/IMG_3012_jpeg-2215718.JPG 43X, work in progress - still waiting on trigger and magwell https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/33932/IMG_3019_jpeg-2215720.JPG |
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Posted: 12/25/2021 1:15:43 PM EDT
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Anybody milling G43 for RMRcc and leaving the rear sight in factory location?
I don't want it in front of the RMRcc but I'm guessing there's not enough room since nobody is doing it that I can find |
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Posted: 12/25/2021 5:42:16 PM EDT
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Had the Fauxland out today for a Christmas celebration.
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Posted: 12/25/2021 7:56:14 PM EDT
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what's a good magwell for a gen 5 glock that doesn't have a giant screw sticking out? My zev is nice but that giant fucking screw head sticking out bugs me
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/25/2021 8:59:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AddictedToPew: what's a good magwell for a gen 5 glock that doesn't have a giant screw sticking out? My zev is nice but that giant fucking screw head sticking out bugs me |
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Posted: 12/26/2021 3:40:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floater33: Anybody milling G43 for RMRcc and leaving the rear sight in factory location? I don't want it in front of the RMRcc but I'm guessing there's not enough room since nobody is doing it that I can find It can be done. I had mine done that way back in April by Empire PBF. Unfortunately they're a small shop and don't appear to offer optic milling anymore. But it is possible, hopefully someone else does it still.  Attached FileHere's my mostly mini-Roland. I still need to get a light for it. |
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Posted: 12/26/2021 3:58:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Carbon244: is the Freya for gen 3/4 g19's still made? i need one in my life lol I have a g3 Freya for a 19 but it’s the only pet I have for my Roland build. Snagged it a year or two ago and now need to source everything else. |
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Posted: 12/26/2021 6:17:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChandlerKJ: I have a g3 Freya for a 19 but it’s the only pet I have for my Roland build. Snagged it a year or two ago and now need to source everything else. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChandlerKJ: Originally Posted By Carbon244: is the Freya for gen 3/4 g19's still made? i need one in my life lol I have a g3 Freya for a 19 but it’s the only pet I have for my Roland build. Snagged it a year or two ago and now need to source everything else. But to answer the question (again), they no longer make them for the 19/23. The Freya for gen 4 standard size frame is still in production and in stock at RCS for those who are interested. |
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USA
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Posted: 12/28/2021 10:59:04 AM EDT
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Thousands of rounds of whatever I can find and my Zev OZ-9 Compact Faux-Land is still running great. Did a ton of shooting with my Wife and kids over the past couple weeks.
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Posted: 12/28/2021 2:43:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mississippiflush]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sonoran_Tj: It can be done. I had mine done that way back in April by Empire PBF. Unfortunately they're a small shop and don't appear to offer optic milling anymore. But it is possible, hopefully someone else does it still. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276110/20210616_095919_jpg-2217145.JPG Here's my mostly mini-Roland. I still need to get a light for it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sonoran_Tj: Originally Posted By floater33: Anybody milling G43 for RMRcc and leaving the rear sight in factory location? I don't want it in front of the RMRcc but I'm guessing there's not enough room since nobody is doing it that I can find It can be done. I had mine done that way back in April by Empire PBF. Unfortunately they're a small shop and don't appear to offer optic milling anymore. But it is possible, hopefully someone else does it still. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276110/20210616_095919_jpg-2217145.JPG Here's my mostly mini-Roland. I still need to get a light for it. I emailed them and they basically said my information is incorrect and you must have bought the rmrcc cover plate, not slide milling?? Battlewerx told me it can't be done.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 7:13:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floater33: Anybody milling G43 for RMRcc and leaving the rear sight in factory location? I don't want it in front of the RMRcc but I'm guessing there's not enough room since nobody is doing it that I can find I think primary machine can mill the sights behind the optic |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 7:57:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chompion: I think primary machine can mill the sights behind the optic Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chompion: Originally Posted By floater33: Anybody milling G43 for RMRcc and leaving the rear sight in factory location? I don't want it in front of the RMRcc but I'm guessing there's not enough room since nobody is doing it that I can find I think primary machine can mill the sights behind the optic Ah their website does indeed say they do... |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 11:03:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floater33: Anybody milling G43 for RMRcc and leaving the rear sight in factory location? I don't want it in front of the RMRcc but I'm guessing there's not enough room since nobody is doing it that I can find Glock store did mine and Left the rear sight in the factory location. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 1/3/2022 5:49:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigdik3006: As an update for anyone interested: Per Unity, my slide is in fact a pre-production ATOM 2.0 that was done by Boresight for a handful of his close associates. It may have slightly different specs than the final production slides/plates. Super cool item that i was lucky enough to wind up with I have 2 buddies that won't part with their atom 1.0 slides as they both have micro T2 on both of their slides and the 2.0 hasn't shown that it will have an aimpoint micro plate as far as I know |
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Posted: 1/3/2022 12:46:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HyperMuteki: I have 2 buddies that won't part with their atom 1.0 slides as they both have micro T2 on both of their slides and the 2.0 hasn't shown that it will have an aimpoint micro plate as far as I know ATOM is dope, I have 2 of their slides. It pisses me off that they've seemingly discontinued the 1.0. They don't make plates anymore, they haven't made plates for newer optics, no one seems to cut for the ATOM anymore either. Then years ago they announced 2.0 and haven't done anything with it. |
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Posted: 1/18/2022 8:02:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Wiscat]
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Workbench pic. Soon….
 19x Agency Gen4 Glock 19 Magwell(lots of carving and fitting.) X300u RMR HRS Slide is being cut PMM Blackout comp and barrel in route |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:03:37 PM EDT
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Bump….
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