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Posted: 8/21/2005 5:38:46 AM EDT
Well I decided to purchase a medium frame polymer 9mm capable of using high cap mags and narrowed my choices down to these two. I thought you guys might find my comparrisson interesting.
Finish I actually gave the Glock the nod in this catagory. The finish just looked tougher on the metal and more detail in the polymer. Fit Definately gave the XD this for I found the grip angle and size a better fit for my hand. I have smaller hands than most. I also found the XD to fit a tad closer against the body thus more comfortable for conceal carry. Accuracy I'm not pro from Dover but found both handguns to exhibit good acuracy which I considered to be equal. Recoil I actually found the Glock to have a tad better recoil than the XD. Still the XD wasn't bad for it's light weight and fast back on target. Tear Down for Cleaning Another dead even Glock vs XD. Both were extremely easily taken down for cleaning. Trigger Pull Both equally sucked compared to a match trigger and had about the same feel. The XD had less of the double trigger feel but not significant. Both had a solid repeatable firing point. Slide Release Once again about a dead even with about the same feel. Mag Release The XD offers a two sided mag release compared to the Glock left side release. I'm sure this would be a nice featue for a left handed person. This wasn't a major factor for me since I was trained to use the left side anyway. both releases worked flawlessly with a smooth mag release. Safety Features Both offer similar trigger safeties. The Glock uses a visual aid to indicate a round is chambered and the XD uses a raised lip which is both visual and by touch. This may be an attractive feature to many buyers but to the always assume a round is chambered and always keep one chambered, it isn't that much of feature. Though not a purchase deciding factor I gave the nod to the XD on this feature. Another not a purchase feature for me was the weapon is cocked feature. This the XD wins hands down with it's very visable painted pin that protrudes out the back of the slide for both a very visiable indicator and by touch. Both the round chambered and cock indicator as features have their limitations since neither gun has a hammer. When it came down to it the only safety feature that was clearly different and an advantage was the handgrip safety of the XD which the Glock didn't have an equivalent. This safety prevents trigger pull unless the handguard is gripped. Mags This is another area that's hard to judge between the two. The XD stainless steel mags definately have a stronger more reliable appeal to them over the Glock plastic mags but the round indicators on the Glock mags were much better. Aftermarket Features This is things like sights, holsters, etc. The Glock being the industry standard for polymer handguns for years takes this hands down however the popularity of the XD40 plus the fact it is the same size as the XD9 has the XD catching up pretty fast. In General I found both handguns to be very good and a very tough decision between the two. They are so similar, I have no problem understanding why so many threads have been on the topic. I purchased the XD mainly based on the grip feel and grip safety. It was a tough decision though and I do like my Glock 26. I hope you enjoyed my comparrisson. Tj |
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Excellent. As always, the most important part is how the gun feels in the individual users hand. Peer pressure, and advertising should play no part in that choice. If only everybody chose like you did.
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You answered your own question with the "fit" part. The way it feels to you is most important. It should feel like an extension of your hand. Lots of people complain about the feel of a Glock. The grip angle is pretty far off springfields and smiths. I personally hate them, but I'm still capable of giving an unbiased opinion.
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I look at the glock as an industrial standard for reliability and excellence. A Croatian made weapon doesn't have much appeal to me though. The XD is still pretty new, so that is why I'm staying away from them, like the new model cars. I'll wait a while for them to iron out any kinks.
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Springfield will refinish your slide for free when the finish wears off it
Seriously if you want a 1911 grip angle then the XD is the gun. It also has a better trigger than the Glock. We ended up selling my g/f's XD because it was kind of hard for her to work the slide. It is the subcompact model. It is accurate enough, and except for one of the sites falling off (fixed by the gunshop) nothing really went wrong with it. It has a strangely large/tall slide, that I think made it fell like it recoil more, combined with the barrel being higher than on a glock. The "subcompact" is similar to the mid sized Glock 19 when you put them side by side because of the tall slide. The barrel is shorter but that makes little difference in carry concealed. The XD does have a little hobbit sized tactical light. |
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You ever use one of the XL lights? haven't personaly seen one but $100 compared to a Surefire $250 is awfully attractive. Tj |
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COMPLETELY disassemble a glock and xd slide of ALL parts side by side.
You will see which is the superior design. Also if you are MIL or LEO you can get one hell of a deal on a glock with LE pricing. |
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Actually did that in the gunstore bud. The most severe duty a handgun sees is the slide which takes the recoil. The metal inserts that hold the slide on the XD polymer frame are almost twice as sturdy as the Glock.
Sorry, I know that probably wasn't the point you were trying to make but you brought it up and your post a tad misleading. Tj |
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Actually I was referring to the fit, finish, and ease of complete disassembly of the entire slide. (no roll pin on the Glock) I don't own an XD but I have fired them and seriously considered purchasing one. After comparing and firing both I ended up with the Glock. From what I understand the HS2000s were fairly inexpensive pistols before Springfield Armory decided to slap their name on them... I'd like to see someone do this with their XD... www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=13658 |
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i'd just like to see SA come out w/ a .45acp XD get the glock |
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I was going to buy a XD but asked around at the indoor range, two owners complained of extractor trouble. The range monkey told me the extractors get kinda loose after about 5k rounds but they hadent had any trouble with the rental XDs. I ended up getting a good deal on a Glock 19 but am still considering a sub compact XD. You can have trouble with any gun, regardless of who makes it.
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BS when you give the nod to Glock on aftermarket sights/lights. XD has a Glock light rail and uses Sig sights. Where is the advantage for Glock?
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You are not going to go wrong with either, but here is some food for though.
XD sights are same as Sigs, lots of options there and from the factory they are metal not plastic. Tirgger, the XD trigger needs a little break in and lube, Hands down I would pick a XD trigger over Glock. The XD front rails / locking block can be replaced where the Glock rails are molded in the frame. The barrel, the XD has a very high quality hammer forged barrel, you can shoot lead with no problem and the chamber are fully supported. |
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I think it all comes down to preference between these guns. I saw you mention the XD fits you better, so you chose right.
Myself I like the Glock better. I was going to buy an XD, tried it out, and I hated the trigger compared to the Glock. Both are crap compared to my 1911. Different strokes..... |
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Very true bud. My comment on the trigger pull is shit was based on comparing it to my 1911s. Keep in mind that I was comparing two specific firearms the Glock 19 and XD 9 serivice. This is about the same thing I did when comparing the XD9 compact to the Glock 26 and I chose the 26 over the XD. In that comparrison the Glock better fit my needs and the slightly lower recoil on such a short barrel was more of a factor. I like both guns so far and like to think I don't have a bias based on popularity thus why I did this post. Quite frankly given a different set of hands, I could have just as easily ended up with the Glock 19. Tj |
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I have both pistols and if I sell one it will be my XD. I like the XD and think it is a good pistol and mine is stainless so the finish can not wear off but I personaly would not want to buy a new pistol that I needed to send back to the factory for refinshing even if it was free but to each his own. Reliability and acuracy are about the same with each one. They both feel comfortable to me but I probably like the Glock a lttle better but maybe that is because I have shot it longer. The Glock finsh is definatly way better than the XD in my opinion and I like the rear sights on my Glock better as well as it has a simpler guid rod and recoil set up which I like better as well. If you get an XD you should not have a problem with it though except for the finish if you get the blued and I still have to make sure their is oil on my slide on my stainless version or it will corrode where as none of my other stainless pistols require frequent oiling.
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I have an XL on my XD Sub. It's bright as hell and has held up to ~ 500 rounds or so with no noticible problem. Ergonomics are great, especially on the small gun, and battery life hasn't been an issue at all. I also went with meprolight sights, bought through and installed by ajames for ~80 bucks. Love 'em, and ajames was a great guy to do business with.
I didn't think the loaded chamber indicator would be something I'd get use from, but I attended a pretty fast paced handgunning course a few weeks ago. Lots of manipulation, reloads and topping off of mags between strings of fire going on. After finding myself with an unexpectedly empty chamber a couple of times (), I got in the habit of sticking my finger in across the top of the holstered weapon to feel for the raised 'loaded chamber' indicator on a regular basis. It isn't a huge thing, but it's a nice little thing. |
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I was faced with this decision recently as well. I ended up buying a Kimber ultra carry II. Which was a mistake. I traded it in and got a Glock 19 today.
Yes Springfield will refinish your slide if the finish wears/rusts off. I haven't heard of many glocks having a rusting problem of any kind. So Glocks wins there. I honestly like the Glock grip angle. I always have. XD feels like a cheap croation made gun to me. Thats what turned me off. I thought it felt nasty. Glock has been around for a long time. Reliable and can take abuse with the best of them. Glock is definetly easier to break down. Hands down. I really like the feel of a glock. I love mine already. |
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Then the correct pistol for you is the Glock. Glocks are great guns. They are/were innovative when they arrived. However, their grip angle is not for everyone(such as peculiar people as I am with funny bone structures that cannot securely grasp the Glock to prevent FTE's). The 1911 grip angle 'werks' for me. If the Glock grip angle werks for you, please enjoy your Glock and am looking forward to competing against you in a 3 gun/IDPA match. I'll offer to buy the first beer. wganz ¶ |
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Thanks for the input guys and once again I like both my XD and Glock.
I find entertaining how the lifetime SA warranty is being used as a negative sales angle but have to ask, has anyone actually had to send an XD back to be refinished? I mean the Glock finish looks better but I have a number of guns that the finish doesn't look as sturdy as the XD. I mean I really take care of the finish of my hanguns. My 1980's S&W 39-2 though has seen years of service still looks like it's right out the box. I keep my clean and oiled and even use leather holsters which I impregnate with gunoil. It all goes back to my military days and white glove inspections. I'd appreaciate anyone telling me they sent an XD back to refinish and why? I haven't heard of one going back for this personaly. Tj |
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I used to hang around in the Springfield forum. A decent number of guys have to send their XD's back. Because they rust. Supposedly it doesn't take long for a XD to rust if it gets any kind of moisture on it.
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Rust Poll on XD Talk... |
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My buddy has rust issues with his, but I still think XD's are nice pistols, especially for people who want something Glock-like but without the steep grip angle. I had a 226 that was a rust magnet too; it was also a great pistol. Take proper care of it, and you shouldn't have to worry about corrosion.
(That being said, I'm a Glock guy) |
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Thanks guys, knowing about a potential problem means you have the know how to avoid it.
I'm pretty good about cleaning and avoiding corrosion issues especially on a CCW piece. Last issue I had was actually on a Berretta that I had in foul weather open carry for four days before I could clean it. It was minor but still bugged me. Tj |
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A lot of people bash the XD because its Croation. They used to sell the XD as the HK2000 or whatever. Had trouble selling them for $250 I heard. Then Springfield started marketing them. Now they are the greatest thing since Glocks
I have never shot one...I hated the way it felt so I didn't get one. If I was you I would just go to a shop and at least play with an XD and a glock side by side. BTW the Glock will probably be easier to conceal. Because it is slightly more narrow and smaller overall. |
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I think highly of Glocks. That being said, I wish they had the added backstrap safety that the XD has. To me it makes the XD more desireable.
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