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Posted: 9/8/2002 4:29:15 AM EDT
I'm in a retro mood today.
Dan Wesson model 7460 loaded with 45ACP the rounds in the moon clip are Cor-Bon +p's |
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Revolvers are for the geriatric set, those that like their tv in B&W and their movies Silent.
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That thing looks like it would kick back like a mule. One advantage of the semi-auto is that you can assume a higher grip posture. How is the recoil on that baby - look like the barrel is AWFUL high above the grip - like it might try to spin around backwards on ya!
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I've only fired one - a measly .38. I haver to admit, being used to semi-autos it did almost do a black flip in my hand when I first shot it. I found I had to take a very aggressive, high grip on the thing. "Centerline of the bore" is just the concept I was pathetically trying to express in my post but did not know the terminology. Anyway, it seemed a lot higher to me when I shot the .38 - damn thing got the better of me until I changed my grip. I can shoot most autos (unless it's a .50AE or something) with a stiff butt loos grip - did not seem to be the case with that damned .38. Sounds like I just found an excuse to: A) Buy a new gun B) Get more range time Damn, this board is getting to be expensive |
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Adam -
Sounds like a grip problem. I have had many students who seem to want to grip a revolver about an inch lower than they should. The top of the grip backstrap should be in the web of your hand. It's not as obvious with a revolver as with a pistol. Revolvers are lots of fun to shoot, and you can pick up a good used 357 for under $300. Practice a lot with cheap 38 special. So you need both a new gun and more range time |
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Actually, because of the design of a revolver, they will usually have quite a bit LESS recoil than a comparable semi. If you look at the design of a revolver, the center of mass (the point that the gun would revolve around) is in front of the grip. In a really well designed revolver like the S&W M-19, M-28 (or M-27), the Colt Police Positive and all of the model 1917s, the center of mass is right over the trigger. This tends to limit upward movement and improve return to POA.
There are several other really big advantages to a revolver over ANY semi-auto.
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While I agree with the rest of what you said, the 45 ACP round (ACP standing for Automatic Colt Pistol) was first used, IIRC, in the 1909 Colt 45 ACP Pistol, which evolved into the 1911. It's a so-so round for a revolver, frankly, and the M1917 was only introduced because Colt couldn't make 1911's fast enough.
I need to call BS on this, unless you have some special physical attributes that cause this to happen or some super secret technique I've never seen. I've fired both a full-moon clipped 45 ACP 625 and 1911's in IPSC/IDPA matches quite a bit, and the pistol is always faster to reload. |
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Love certain revolvers! I find my Smith and Wesson Model 25 45 Long Colt 4" nickel to be one of my top two accurate handguns (the other is a Sig P229). I'll tell you, one of these loaded with good ammo would have to be about as effective as anything you could fire from a handgun. But they are a hand cannon and are best suited to work around the house. I couldn't imagine packing such a beast around on my hip for very long!
Other revolvers I really like are the Smith and Wesson Model 66 and Model 686 .357 Magnum. Very nice shooters are durable. The Smith and Wesson 2" snubbies and the Taurus 2" Model 85 also make nice little concealed carry pieces. |
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I absolutely love my S&W 625 in .45 ACP. It's just a little on the large side to conceal comfortably.
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"Retro" is one definition. I like to say getting back to basics...same thing only different, I suppose. Meanwhile, I will always give my revolvers "equal time". My old (relatively) 28 is my fav at the moment, basic blue, no bells, no whistles, just a big boom and holes in the middle.
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As many semi's as I own, I keep my Dan Wesson 357 in the safe next to the bed, with a speed loader sitting patiently off to the side.
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While I prefer my Beretta M92F in 9mm loaded with 124gr.+P Gold Dots for any personal protection scenario, I feel all most as comfortable with my 4" Colt King Cobra in 357 loaded with 125gr Golden Sabres. I feel that it comes down to the individual and not the weapon. If I had to use my King Cobra to defend myself or my family, I would not feel helpless.
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I'm more of an auto guy. I have a Vacqureo, but revolvers are more just curiosities and playthings. That Dan Wesson sure looks sweet though.
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I recently purchased my first revolver, but I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet.
As you can see, I started with something small before I move up to larger revolvers. |
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Revolvers, yes, 2, stainless, one for the kitchen & one for the bathroom.
Some day if I can find an old S&W model 60 chiefs special I'd like to add that. Also I have dreams of building up a 7+" .357 Bain & Davis on a heavy frame... Rude Visitor: "Just how many guns do you have?" Myself: "Sir, your question is ill phrased. It should be how many guns do you have in each room. But don't expect an answer beyond at least one in each." |
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good choice for the humid & wet areas, prof, my bathroom gun is also stainless for just that reason. s&w model 66, magna ported, chamfered for speedloaders and bead blasted to a nice matte finish.
COME ON GUYS, I WANNA SEE SOME PYTHONS |
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I love wheelguns. I have my first love..a 6" Royal Blue Python,a S&W model 10 and a H&R model 950 stainless .22.
serpico..I'll post a pic of my python as soon as I find it. It isn't a great pic though. Wave..whats that funny looking thing behind your Dan Wesson? That isn't a Mac is it? |
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Love my Colt .357s I shoot revelovers and semis about equally. Revolvers are very relaxing, slow fire no brass to catch, real gentle on brass, makes it easier and more time to reload.
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No way! That's a Hewlett Packard Computer in the background. |
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Loaded with 45ACP +P the Dan Wesson is still a very pleasant shooter, mostly because it's a heavy pistol that absorbs the recoil. I run out of ammo before I get tired of shooting it. |
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At present I have only one revolver; that ODD Nagant.
Have shot many including 29 S&W, .357 Mag Taurus & S&W and a 45LC Ruger. I tend to like the larger ones. Not an expert with any, but shoot all pretty decent. I will be adding some of the above to my collection as I get the $$ and opportunity. Semis are still my first choice. Won't take anything away from the wheel guys, just like autos. Bigger the better! |
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How about some one post a pic of their 686? Damm I miss that gun! Should have never sold it.
Art in KY |
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Obsolete? Retro? Nursing Homes?...OK, you go stand over there and let me shoot at you six times with this big ol' obsolete revolver, then tell me what you think!
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Since your hand is doubtless crippled with palsy and your eyesight clouded by cataracts, it should pose no significant threat. Plus the recoil will probably push your wheelchair out of alignment with the target. |
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Well, it DOES push the chair around some, but I've got this system worked out where I can hook my leg around the oxygen tank stand and it's pretty stable...just got ta remember to not let the muzzle flash get too near the oxygen bottle. Got the location of the door memorized...just having problems remembering which door we are talking about. Don't need earmuffs...can't hear anyway! :-0
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I'm usually an auto guy, but I also would not feel undergunned with our GP100. I really like that gun. It's my wife's favorite. Just ask and she'll say it's 'her' gun.
I think a SW 686 Powerport with an Aimpoint is next. |
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I'm more of a sneaky subtle bastard myself.
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/images/ruger_guns/revolvers/small/ksp321xlb.gif |
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There's not a thing wrong with a quality revolver and most revolver shooters have a saying of six for sure and not without good reason. Revolvers are reliable and not at all ammo sensitive as many semiautos are prone to be. A well trained man with a good revolver, is still a force to be reckoned with.
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