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Posted: 6/16/2006 8:00:22 PM EDT
What are some of the things you would like to see on generation four GLOCKS?

This is what I would like to see:

-Create a long barrel GLOCK 21 .45ACP just like the 34/35
-Add more chamber support
-Offer an optional external safety (I know I'll get flamed for this)
-Offer automatic capabilities for all GLOCK models (just like the GLOCK 18 9mm)
-Offer interchangeable grips
-Offer GLOCK models without finger grooves
-Offer silver colored GLOCK models (I like silver )
-Offer a .22LR GLOCK

What would you do to fourth generation GLOCKs?
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 8:03:16 PM EDT
[#1]
- stiffer (non-spongy) recoil
- better grip angle

I'm a 1911 guy who wants to like Glocks. They're inexpensive. They're durable. They just don't fit me and that recoil felt horrible. Give me the recoil impulse. It's only 9mm, I can handle it.
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 8:07:03 PM EDT
[#2]
Single stack .40 & 9mm models like the G36
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 8:29:05 PM EDT
[#3]
*Better grip angle.
*Better ergonomics (especially with the 20 and 21).
*Better trigger (less spongy).
*A real external safety (obviously not on the trigger).
*Slimmer profile.
*A steel frame.
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 10:30:30 PM EDT
[#4]
in all 4th gen glocks:
--no finger grooves
--reduced grip circumfrence on the big bores
--slighly less angled grip angle
--more contoured trigger (like the XD)
--supported chambers

model: +1 on a long slide/bbl .45acp

Link Posted: 6/16/2006 10:42:32 PM EDT
[#5]
Once you quit shooting all those other guns, you don't notice the grip angle thing any more. You get used to it and other handguns feel funny.

Seriously.
Link Posted: 6/16/2006 11:50:41 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Once you quit shooting all those other guns, you don't notice the grip angle thing any more. You get used to it and other handguns feel funny.

Seriously.



+1

Only thing I'd like them to do is make a 35 in .357 sig from the factory.  Maybe make their standard sights steel.  The rest I like.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 12:07:50 AM EDT
[#7]
Light rail but no finger grooves.

Carbine.

Single stack 9mm.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 1:04:02 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Create a long barrel GLOCK 21 .45ACP just like the 34/35



10mm as well.

Link Posted: 6/17/2006 1:12:24 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Single stack .40 & 9mm models like the G36



Bingo! That is exactly what I want also.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 1:18:42 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Create a long barrel GLOCK 21 .45ACP just like the 34/35



10mm as well.



+1
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 1:22:33 AM EDT
[#11]
Integrated "Beamz"
10mm
.50
Grip safety (Front of the grip middle finger) and still keep the trigger safety.
Slide release moved about a half inch twards the rear.
Slide style choices: Stainless, OD, Tan.
Threaded barrels on all models.

Link Posted: 6/17/2006 2:35:24 AM EDT
[#12]
G21 and G20 with smaller grips ala XD 45ACP.
Single stack 9 and 40.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 2:47:58 AM EDT
[#13]
better sights
removal or less aggressive stippling between the finger grooves and back strap
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 3:08:17 AM EDT
[#14]
no finger grooves and adjustable backstrap kinda like smith m&p and hk p2000 etc.  maybe if the grip would agree with my hand better i would buy one.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 3:59:19 AM EDT
[#15]
I sent them a letter.  Not that it will do a damn bit of good... but if they would make a .45 based on the 37, only with a 4" barrel and a full length frame instead of that stupid palm-pinching half-grip abortion, they'd sell the fucking hell out of them.  Think about it - a Commander-size Glock single stack no wider than a G17.

But no...they have to fuck around with that ignorant .45 GAP bullshit.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 4:08:51 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
- stiffer (non-spongy) recoil
- better grip angle

I'm a 1911 guy who wants to like Glocks. They're inexpensive. They're durable. They just don't fit me and that recoil felt horrible. Give me the recoil impulse. It's only 9mm, I can handle it.



+1 - Had a few Glocks, didn't point right.  Sold 'em all at a loss.  Give us interchangeable grips to customize the angle, and I will buy a few.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 4:58:28 AM EDT
[#17]
"Once you quit shooting all those other guns"


Will never happen.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 5:15:44 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Once you quit shooting all those other guns, you don't notice the grip angle thing any more. You get used to it and other handguns feel funny.

Seriously.



+1

Only thing I'd like them to do is make a 35 in .357 sig from the factory.  Maybe make their standard sights steel.  The rest I like.



Yeah, I know, it's just like size 9 1/2 shoes. They fit me perfect. I don't understand why they make other sizes.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:09:49 AM EDT
[#19]
Tan or coyote from the factory not after market finishes!!
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:31:30 AM EDT
[#20]
Just buy a P-99 and be done with it. Linky. Flame suit on!
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 6:34:19 AM EDT
[#21]
Other than needing steel sights as standard, I thought the Glock was the perfect tool.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 11:47:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Make one in 7.62x25. At least I'd buy one!

Link Posted: 6/17/2006 11:52:28 AM EDT
[#23]
I want to see a Glock frame with light rail but no finger grooves. I don't want any funky interchangeable grip pieces bullshit, just a one piece frame.

And offer Heinie or Sevigny sights from the factory.

That would make me perfectly happy.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 12:13:07 PM EDT
[#24]
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 12:30:22 PM EDT
[#25]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Once you quit shooting all those other guns, you don't notice the grip angle thing any more. You get used to it and other handguns feel funny.

Seriously.



+1

Only thing I'd like them to do is make a 35 in .357 sig from the factory.  Maybe make their standard sights steel.  The rest I like.



Yeah, I know, it's just like size 9 1/2 shoes. They fit me perfect. I don't understand why they make other sizes.




Maybe I wasn't clear on what I said. What I meant was that there is nothing wrong with the grip angle of the Glock, it's just different that what some people are used to, so it feels funny at first, but you get used to it fast.

Others (mainly 1911 shooters) like to say there is something wrong with the angle, but like I said, it's just different.

It's like driving someone else truck/car. I'm very used to my truck, the way it feels, steers, etc. When I get in someone else truck/car to drive it, it feels strange, uncomfortable, ackward.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 3:29:40 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Once you quit shooting all those other guns, you don't notice the grip angle thing any more. You get used to it and other handguns feel funny.

Seriously.



+1

Only thing I'd like them to do is make a 35 in .357 sig from the factory.  Maybe make their standard sights steel.  The rest I like.



Yeah, I know, it's just like size 9 1/2 shoes. They fit me perfect. I don't understand why they make other sizes.




Maybe I wasn't clear on what I said. What I meant was that there is nothing wrong with the grip angle of the Glock, it's just different that what some people are used to, so it feels funny at first, but you get used to it fast.

Others (mainly 1911 shooters) like to say there is something wrong with the angle, but like I said, it's just different.

It's like driving someone else truck/car. I'm very used to my truck, the way it feels, steers, etc. When I get in someone else truck/car to drive it, it feels strange, uncomfortable, ackward.



No. Your answer was to exclusively use Glocks as a way to get around the difference in grip angle.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 5:55:53 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
No. Your answer was to exclusively use Glocks as a way to get around the difference in grip angle.




Yes it was. I was being brief and silly.

I decided that I should amend my comments to more fully explain without the sillyness.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 7:57:54 PM EDT
[#28]
-I kinda like the finger grooves; leave 'em at least as an option
-Grip safety good; other safety not.
-Night sights standard


Link Posted: 6/17/2006 8:06:47 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
Once you quit shooting all those other guns, you don't notice the grip angle thing any more. You get used to it and other handguns feel funny.

Seriously.




Another +1. I went from an HK to a Glock. What grip angle, what spongy recoil?
After 1500+ rounds the Glocks fits me good. (G30 & G29)
I would maybe try to thin her down a bit.  Uh, or not.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 8:14:07 PM EDT
[#30]
21L
Importable .380 & .380 conversion for 17s & 34s
factory Glock .22
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 8:21:17 PM EDT
[#31]
Reduce the squareness at rear grip tang.

Stiffer factory recoil springs.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 9:34:19 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
Reduce the squareness at rear grip tang.

Stiffer factory recoil springs.




Explain this one for me. I'm no Glock Mechanic, but I don't know of any problems with these, except for the competition shooters that use lighter weight springs.
Link Posted: 6/17/2006 9:52:01 PM EDT
[#33]
Do something to make the trigger less sproingy.
Lose the finger grooves
Never again make a gun where half the grip is composed of a magazine base.

On the doublestack guns, round the slides
Make a 8+1 9mm that's 1" thick.
Make a 7+1 .45 that's the same size and thickness as my Kimber Compact.

I would be okay with exchangeable backstraps as long as I can have one exactly the way it is now. On all the interchangeable backstrap guns I've tried, none of the backstraps felt right. (SW99, P99, P2000)

Link Posted: 6/17/2006 10:28:08 PM EDT
[#34]
--no finger grooves


+1000

I want a 19 but the grooves are in the wrong place for my fat, stubby fingers. I want a .22 on a 17 or 19 frame or a conversion kit for my 30.
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 2:20:52 AM EDT
[#35]
Just a tiny beavertail.  Tiny.  I have a small scar from repeated scrapings on the web of my right hand when I grab & go too high in a hurry.  But it has to be tiny, to keep the high grip...

Everything else should stay the way it is.
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 4:53:42 AM EDT
[#36]
For all those who wish for a 1911 grip angle and use it as a defense tool,
the Crimson Trace laser may be the ticket.

Link Posted: 6/18/2006 5:20:59 AM EDT
[#37]
I prefer the Glock grip angle.  1911s, Sigs, HKs all point low for me.  Only Glock and Steyrs point correctly.
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 10:02:28 AM EDT
[#38]
Not to troll but seriously, after reading most of the suggestions here, it sounds like most are wanting Glock to make an XD.
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 11:34:22 AM EDT
[#39]
My gen 1's work just fine, nothing in gen 2, 3, or 4 excites me
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 11:40:21 AM EDT
[#40]
Longslide 10mm.
30+rd mags in all calibres.
Bullpup carbine in 9 and 40.
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 1:59:58 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Longslide 10mm.
30+rd mags in all calibres.
Bullpup carbine in 9 and 40.



+1 except I want a 10mm carbine to go with the longslide 10mm pistol that I want them to make.
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 5:14:18 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Reduce the squareness at rear grip tang.

Stiffer factory recoil springs.




Explain this one for me. I'm no Glock Mechanic, but I don't know of any problems with these, except for the competition shooters that use lighter weight springs.




Im fine with whats in the 9mm models, but Ive always felt the .45 and ESPECIALLY the .40s could use a pound or two more weight to increase the dwell time before unlocking.
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 5:34:22 PM EDT
[#43]
yea now that yall are mentioning it, i want that damn Glock carbine too!

and +1 to the 30+ rnd hi-cap mags for .45acp and 10mm!
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 5:57:38 PM EDT
[#44]
Glock improvements:

1. Remove hump from bottom rear of grip & add beavertail.
2. Add frame-mounted thumb safety & remove trigger safety & trigger take-up.
3. Make full size version of .45 ACP G36 with above improvements.
4. All-steel magazines that trult drop free.
5. Steel sights.

Link Posted: 6/18/2006 6:11:53 PM EDT
[#45]
well, they should make the finger grooves and option, because I like them.

I would like a 21 sized handle with a 30 sized barrel.
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 6:23:56 PM EDT
[#46]
Rail w/ no finger grooves
Steel Sights
Longslide in all calibers
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 7:13:51 PM EDT
[#47]
-Front cocking serrations from the factory.
-.22 conversion kit so I can train more on my current budget.
-Price drops so I can buy more of them on my current budget.

If it ain't broke yadda yadda....
Link Posted: 6/18/2006 9:49:09 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
<snip>
-.22 conversion kit so I can train more on my current budget.
<snip>



www.advantagearms.com/conversion_kit.html
Link Posted: 6/19/2006 3:00:49 AM EDT
[#49]
supported chambers
Link Posted: 6/19/2006 4:04:51 AM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
-Offer an optional external safety (I know I'll get flamed for this)



Why? If GLOCK wants to expand their government sales, they need to do it...

Not that I'd like to see a Glock for an issue pistol, but right now GLOCK can't sell to the US military because their weapons lack this feature...
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