I am a huge Walther fan and have owned most of their 9mm and several 22lr offerings. However, 3 years ago discovered Canik thru a competition shooter friend of mine, and let's just say, the Walthers sit in the safe, the PDPs were not much of an upgrade over the PPQ. Sold off one of my PDPs, kept the PDP-F for female students, but find that my Caniks (Elite Combats, Rivals, and Mete's ) outperform my Walthers, and come from the factory with all the upgrades the Walthers should have but dont and the Caniks are $100-$200 less.