As the title states show your war belt and first line setups complete with component rundowns and even costs. There are alot of seperate threads on this but no one thread with everybodies setups.

Let us know how you like it.

Update: I received my Blue Alpha inner belt that I ordered 1 size smaller than my current size (hoping to use it longer) and it seems to have helped. I cinched it down as tight as possible around my waist and the belt is staying put so far jumping around in the house

I should be able to use my current outer belt for a little while still but (hopefully) by time local shoots start back up Ill need a smaller size.

Is Blue Alpha Lite pretty G2G?

Blue alpha was great when I dropped a few pounds and fell between sizes, they did a free return/exchange in a hurry. I think I got the new one before the old even got back to them. I'll order again from them once/if I get to one size lower

what holster is that?

Sizing swap would be a plus. Im also in the slow process of losing weight so they may be the best option if Im between sizes. I like the inner belt so far

Holster is a Safariland 6390RDS this one is for a P320 (3.9 slide)

HRT ARC pistol and rifle magazine pouches arrived today directly from HRT Tactical Gear. I was pleasantly surprised to see that the packaging says MADE IN USA as this info isn't stated anywhere that I could find on their site. Huge +1 for American made.

Backstory: I was looking for a new set of pistol magazine pouches and a matching AR/M4 magazine pouch for my belt. I've tried GBRS Group, Shaw Concepts, Ferro Concepts, and Esstac. I didn't love any of them and concluded that I don't want elastic or double elastic as part of the retention but if there are Kydex or Polymer inserts, I want it a bit more svelte. I took a chance on the HRTs even factoring in that they might be made overseas (turns out they're not). Here are my thoughts:

Pros: (1) American-made, (2) modern materials (500/1000 Laminated Denier Cordura) and streamlined look/feel, (3) innovative RIGID Molle straps (Tegris) give the impression these will stay strapped to the molle (but more on this in a bit...), (4) polymer inserts aren't too thick and magazine draws and insertions are really nice though you can easily catch the right or left side of the pouch and shove the material inward preventing you from successfully inserting your magazine.

Cons: (1) yes, RIGID Molle straps won't ever come undone on their own but were difficult to work with on initial install; single straps for pistol were challenging (vs. WTF straps, MALICE CLIPS, etc.), but the double straps for the M4 magazine pouch were VERY CHALLENGING to work with during the install (Tip: I did not use any tools; needle nose pliers would be helpful but I would wrap the tips with masking tape or similar so as to not chew up the Tegris material) (2) and this last one is a BIG one for me: there's way too much movement in the pistol pouches when mounted to the belt. This is on my AWS Gear SMU belt so maybe these stay in place better when installed on HRT's ARC belt. In any case, check out the pics and see how much range of movement there is while installed. The pouch moves a 1/4-inch up and down and then with the side-to-side play, it's just really disappointing. This got slightly better when I paired the two pistol mag pouches side-by-side and then stacked the M4 magazine pouch (which doesn't move around very much) adjacent to them. But overall, this was a serious negative for me. I want stuff locked down tight on my belt, not floating around. With all of the aforementioned brands, none had this same issue. Will definitely contact HRT on Monday and get their take.

Pics...







Installed on the belt and yet able to cant forward or backward a good 15 degrees or so... For reference, I'm running HK VP9 17-round double-stack magazines.





At least 1/4-inch of up/down movement in the column.





Final product

Thanks for the write-up. Do the pouches move up and down with the belt on, or do they stay put with body pressure pushing outward? I wonder if one-wrap would work better. That movement would be a deal breaker for me. Nice looking gear though.

They definitely still move around when the belt is on. Don’t get me wrong, they’re not loose and floppy on their own but I can obviously move them every which way with little effort. I’m torn because I otherwise really like the pouches.

ETA: Spoke too soon about the M4 pouch not moving around. Not as bad as the pistol mag pouches but definitely some play that shouldn’t be there.

one wrap.

Anybody remember which page the one wrap tutorial is on? I'm switching out my esstac belt loops for one wrap.

@CapsFan

https://www.reddit.com/r/tacticalgear/s/5efXH2uk6Z

Thank you, but I'm looking for the one in this thread.

It's a pretty good tutorial

Truly a gentleman and a scholar.

One Wrap is the way.

And don’t get 1/2”‘wrap cause it’s cheaper. I did that and have to “upgrade”’to the correct width one of these days.

I have the ARC belt, and their pouches are solid in that application. One wrap should solve your issues.

Setting up a new belt.  It will be two-piece and poiches will be one-wrapped.  Is there really any benefit of using a molle outer belt with one-wrap?  I would prefer to remove the added extra thickness of the molle.

I run a slick non molle blue alpha and its fine.

One Wrap was a great suggestion; HRT said the same thing which was odd. I had some on hand. Unfortunately, I think the pouch design isn’t sturdy enough; it’s still able to cant forward, backward, outward, etc. and there’s a little too much room in the pouch itself where the magazine can move forward and backward in it. Super lame. These are going back.

@esstac-

Modern materials like laminate Squadron (which you’re in the process of switching over to from molle PALS for attachment) and Tegris don’t mean $h!t if the product has design flaws. The HRTs were not an improvement and aren’t going to work for me. You win. I was wrong. Even despite your response, I’m going to buy your Side-by-side 1+2 5.56 shorty because I know it’ll work.

In other news, would you please respond to my customer service inquiry from a week ago about my six shell shotgun card?

Thanks

I’m probably retarded, but are there no more 70d angled pistol mag carriers?

Crappy little pouch just orgasmed.
I can't unsee it.
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The "sleeve" on the HRT ARC pistol magazine pouches is only attached to the inner plastic insert by drain hole rivet on the very bottom. The insert can shove upwards and moves independently of the sleeve. I think this contributes to the overall loosey goosey feel of the pouch.

No harm no foul on the response. I should've put more thought into my public critique. I'd be curious how your pouches would be modernized with laminated squadron through and through--I just don't love the thick, coarse looking Cordura that comprises the outside but it's obviously a design decision.

In the meantime...

Do the one wrap velcro!

That is an irritation of mine with modernized belt designs. Axl does a fantastic job of supporting their eco system with simple, well thought out attachment methods. Not every manufacturer takes the time to ensure the new designs are actually an improvement.

Cool, thanks!

I would agree with Esstac on all points.  I took a chance on HRT pouches and their belt but was quickly disappointed. Upon receipt, I noticed several design and major construction flaws. There were major failures within the first training session (LE use). I contacted the mfg and they did take care of the parts with issues but did not want to correct / replace the other components that had not failed yet. some of the issues such as bar tacking stress points are product design 101-something they failed to realize. I was able to send all back for a full refund. They did comment that they were bringing things in house and correcting some of the issues.

Ive run Esstac pouches for some time and have been very happy.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Definitely helpful.

I have an asstac enhancer coming in the mail this weekend that I’ll need to find a holster for. I would be interested to know what percentage of people prefer drop-leg vs. hip worn.

I’m not a fan of drop legs.  I’ve worn all types in various styles professionally for way too long. I prefer the UBL. It’s solid, secure and with a mid ride, sits just low enough to clear  my armor.  To me, drop legs are not comfortable, especially in vehicles.

Almost zero. Drop legs are useful for clearing bulky armor but that's about it. I still have one but only for a specific reason. I Almost never use it. Only reason I bought it in the first place was I found it cheap in a thrift store.

Does anyone have any leads/ideas on a minimalist blowout kit/pouch? I'm talking gloves/hemostatic/compression bandage. Trying to slim my belt down and the IFAK is always an awkward beast. I've tried both the Burrito and Stomp from CTS, a CTOMs tear off, reproposed a Ferro admin pouch as a zippered pouch on my front 1 o'clock, and a Spiritus JSTA. The best option I can find currently is the BFG nano. Any others similar to that?

Prefer is a sticky wicket. Due to lifestyle choices and my idea of fun, my hands, wrists, elbows, and shoulders are only mostly fully functional, most days.

Lately I've been playing with an Amazon chinesium true north concepts adapter to see if the idea is worth exploring. It's good to have options.

Live the creed
Bfg

Another for BFG. Or HSGI for a bit bigger vertical option

Right on. My current lead was the BFG nano which checks the boxes I outlined. I might give that a shot.

Huge shoutout to @esstac-

Ordered this...



...and received all of this:



I ended up not even using the original pouch setup I ordered from Esstac because I paired a single KYWI M4 pouch I already had on hand with the two 45-degree pistol pouches which are FRIGGIN AWESOME.

And yeah, One Wrap is the way... I'm able to lock the pouches down tight on my belt and not have any movement at all. I honestly don't even know how HRT hasn't had to go back to the drawing board with as much unwanted movement as their ARC pouches had--even with One Wrap.

Also swapped out the Malice Clips on my Tactical Tailor dump pouch for the One Wrap. What an improvement.





Super stoked, @esstac- Thank you!

Wheres the best source for One Wrap that you all are using?

Right now I have my Esstac pouches attached with the plastic malice clips but when I get ready to setup my new outer belt Id like to try the OneWrap option

https://a.co/d/ig0Lzjk

Oddly enough I found One Wrap at a local Home Depot.

Nice setup. I see you’re running the Flat Line Fiber Co./Kinetic Consulting PIMP. I’m waiting for MultiCam to become available (2-3 weeks out) and then am ordering one plus a dump pouch. How do you like yours? I’m wondering if it’s compact enough I could possibly run it at the 1:00-2:00 position in front of my pistol. I have a little more real estate there than you do and want to keep gear off my 4:00 to 7:00 area.

Thanks!  Its nice...I keep the bare minimum in it, because it can fill up fast and get quite bulky (which defeats the purpose IMO) .  I also have a HSG pouch that has everything, incase I want to switch it up (big and heavy).  

Definitely small enough to run at 1:00 keeping just a few items in it......You'll like it.   Its a good minimalist IFAK pouch.

Thanks!

Building another range belt, this time around a 2011. Esstac all the things. That outfit is such a fucking Beauty. I’ve always been impressed with their gear but these 40degree mags are something else. I stuck a CMC mag to the magnet pouch from 10 feet a few minutes ago, but that kind of deserves its own thread.



I have a UBL mid and a QLS set around here somewhere, but still have to acquire a holster and the flattest med pouch I can find.

What's the big benefit of onewrap over wtfix straps that I bought with my esstac pouches years ago? I have onewrap for when/if they fail but haven't needed to replace them.