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Posted: 9/2/2014 11:25:02 AM EDT
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OK, now I've gone from little interest to must have.
I think this is FLIR's Achilles Heel. They should take a lesson from their competitors and start using high-resolution OLED displays. The IRH G2 is what a TWS should be / have been all along. Some great innovation! |
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OK, now I've gone from little interest to must have. I think this is FLIR's Achilles Heel. They should take a lesson from their competitors and start using high-resolution OLED displays. The IRH G2 is what a TWS should be / have been all along. Some great innovation! View Quote You'll just have to wait for the FLIR Quark thermals to hit the market in thermal weapon scopes.... |
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Well, I guess that means I want need a thermal scope now......
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I like the idea of "back up dots" with magnified day/night optics is why TNVC designed and manufactured the SAR (Scope Accessory Ring) awhile ago. The ability to mount an MRDS to the IR Hunter and a LaRue mount is a shooters think tank design and one that first intrigued us to start testing the MK1 line.
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Oh come on Skypup , let Vic talk about the IR Hunter.
No need to reference FLIR in the thread like you have twice already, you'll confuse the hell out of noobs and dilute the message of IRD's product. Rant over ;) |
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Oh come on Skypup , let Vic talk about the IR Hunter. No need to reference FLIR in the thread like you have twice already, you'll confuse the hell out of noobs and dilute the message of IRD's product. Rant over ;) View Quote What, you aren't aware of either the BAE 12um or the FLIR Quarks??? Well, at least 12 microns is getting closer to the ledge of no return.... |
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What, you aren't aware of either the BAE 12um or the FLIR Quarks??? Well, at least 12 microns is getting closer to the ledge of no return.... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh come on Skypup , let Vic talk about the IR Hunter. No need to reference FLIR in the thread like you have twice already, you'll confuse the hell out of noobs and dilute the message of IRD's product. Rant over ;) What, you aren't aware of either the BAE 12um or the FLIR Quarks??? Well, at least 12 microns is getting closer to the ledge of no return.... Oh come now, you aren't that dense are you? He was referring to the comment about the video cable. |
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Oh come now, you aren't that dense are you? He was referring to the comment about the video cable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Oh come on Skypup , let Vic talk about the IR Hunter. No need to reference FLIR in the thread like you have twice already, you'll confuse the hell out of noobs and dilute the message of IRD's product. Rant over ;) What, you aren't aware of either the BAE 12um or the FLIR Quarks??? Well, at least 12 microns is getting closer to the ledge of no return.... Oh come now, you aren't that dense are you? He was referring to the comment about the video cable. I am pretty dense, you mean the optional video cable you have to pay extra for to take videos with? |
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I like the idea of "back up dots" with magnified day/night optics is why TNVC designed and manufactured the SAR (Scope Accessory Ring) awhile ago. The ability to mount an MRDS to the IR Hunter and a LaRue mount is a shooters think tank design and one that first intrigued us to start testing the MK1 line. Vic View Quote |
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There are other plans in the works for the MRDS aspect sitting on that unit in the pics. More to follow on that.
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Vic, you sure the display resolution is only 640x480? It looks better than that from the pics.
Anyone get eyeball time behind these vs ThORs vs FLIR RS line?
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The display is digitally driven direct from core/sensor. No conversion therefore a technically "pure" image.
I have zero time behind the FLIR but - Comparing to a THOR you have to factor that the Ir Defense is a fixed focus system with digital focus control (DFC) while the Thor is manually focused by the front lense. The clarity of the image is sharper with the manal focus systems, no question. HTXH |
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I never understood this either. It would seem like a win win situation to include a cable and watch all the youtube videos pour in for free advertising. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Optional Video Cable"? What is up with that? I never understood this either. It would seem like a win win situation to include a cable and watch all the youtube videos pour in for free advertising. No joke, a good video cable is an important asset as all those who take videos know all too well, having it tacked on as an optional accessory just does not make any sense.... |
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I hear they let just about anyone teach Molecular Genetics at UF. Low standards, and all that. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I am pretty dense, you mean the optional video cable you have to pay extra for to take videos with? I hear they let just about anyone teach Molecular Genetics at UF. Low standards, and all that. I always wondered why these Rhodes Scholars from Oxford, the University of London, and the Pasteur Institute come all the way across the pond just to "learn basic science" here in our laboratory? |
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Vic, you sure the display resolution is only 640x480? It looks better than that from the pics. Anyone get eyeball time behind these vs ThORs vs FLIR RS line? View Quote That is what we're told.... Going have eyeballs behind one tomorrow night, I will let you know what I see real time. Vic |
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That is what we're told.... Going have eyeballs behind one tomorrow night, I will let you know what I see real time. Vic View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Vic, you sure the display resolution is only 640x480? It looks better than that from the pics. Anyone get eyeball time behind these vs ThORs vs FLIR RS line? That is what we're told.... Going have eyeballs behind one tomorrow night, I will let you know what I see real time. Vic I've got half a dozen four hundred pound boars that I could use a hand stalking at night, Vic.....I'll try to save a couple for you and Donovan to take out with your new thermal gear, Donny can't miss an eight foot long boar hog. |
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I've got half a dozen four hundred pound boars that I could use a hand stalking at night, Vic.....I'll try to save a couple for you and Donovan to take out with your new thermal gear, Donny can't miss an eight foot long boar hog. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Vic, you sure the display resolution is only 640x480? It looks better than that from the pics. Anyone get eyeball time behind these vs ThORs vs FLIR RS line? That is what we're told.... Going have eyeballs behind one tomorrow night, I will let you know what I see real time. Vic I've got half a dozen four hundred pound boars that I could use a hand stalking at night, Vic.....I'll try to save a couple for you and Donovan to take out with your new thermal gear, Donny can't miss an eight foot long boar hog. Ha, copy on all! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Vic, you sure the display resolution is only 640x480? It looks better than that from the pics. Anyone get eyeball time behind these vs ThORs vs FLIR RS line? That is what we're told.... Going have eyeballs behind one tomorrow night, I will let you know what I see real time. Vic I've got half a dozen four hundred pound boars that I could use a hand stalking at night, Vic.....I'll try to save a couple for you and Donovan to take out with your new thermal gear, Donny can't miss an eight foot long boar hog. Ha, copy on all! Can I come if I bring beer and some ThOR's for comparison. Night time season just closed in Louisiana. :(
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That would be interesting for sure, I certainly could utilize some of your outstanding expertise, your the only one I know that hunts boars bare footed with knives and spears after spotting them with a gyrocopter!
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Wow, the images from these look incredible! Great contrast and really crisp.
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Yep from what I've seen on the market the last few years get rid of the small LCD's and go all OLED it makes a huge difference in picture contrast/clarity.Speaking for myself I think I am done buying any thermal without a OLED in the future. To me its like buying a neutered steer calf to breed your cows
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Question about the "system requires 1x day optic magnification" tidbit from page 1, does this mean that it would only function as a clip-on with a unity red dot/holographic sight or a 1-whatever scope or am I reading that wrong? Those images look VERY nice, especially for the $, but don't think I would want to be limited to 1x. In a world where a riflescope/clip-on with a 12um 640x480 BAE sensor and OLED display exists, I can't imagine the FLIR RS line posing much competition especially considering the prices. Maybe there is a serious rebuttal coming from FLIR soon? My goodness I love that there is finally competition in this arena... lower prices and better equipment for all of us
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Question about the "system requires 1x day optic magnification" tidbit from page 1, does this mean that it would only function as a clip-on with a unity red dot/holographic sight or a 1-whatever scope or am I reading that wrong? Those images look VERY nice, especially for the $, but don't think I would want to be limited to 1x. In a world where a riflescope/clip-on with a 12um 640x480 BAE sensor and OLED display exists, I can't imagine the FLIR RS line posing much competition especially considering the prices. Maybe there is a serious rebuttal coming from FLIR soon? My goodness I love that there is finally competition in this arena... lower prices and better equipment for all of us View Quote I am also interested in the list of comparable optics |
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I like the idea of "back up dots" with magnified day/night optics is why TNVC designed and manufactured the SAR (Scope Accessory Ring) awhile ago. The ability to mount an MRDS to the IR Hunter and a LaRue mount is a shooters think tank design and one that first intrigued us to start testing the MK1 line. Vic View Quote Any way to put a piece of picatinny for an IR laser where that RDS is? Pricing? |
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Any way to put a piece of picatinny for an IR laser where that RDS is? Pricing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I like the idea of "back up dots" with magnified day/night optics is why TNVC designed and manufactured the SAR (Scope Accessory Ring) awhile ago. The ability to mount an MRDS to the IR Hunter and a LaRue mount is a shooters think tank design and one that first intrigued us to start testing the MK1 line. Vic Any way to put a piece of picatinny for an IR laser where that RDS is? Pricing? There will be as, we're working on that right now. Retail pricing for the IR Hunter MKII 1.5x, - 640-20mm will be $5495.00 Retail pricing for the IR Hunter MKII 2.5x - 640-35mm will be $6495.00 Vic |
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"Optional Video Cable"? What is up with that? We got that taken care of! Vic +1 - see how that works! No, not really - explain to us how your comment of no video cable resulted in it becoming a reallity AND THEN Show us your true mystic powers by asking "what no DVR, included?" |
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No, not really - explain to us how your comment of no video cable resulted in it becoming a reallity AND THEN Show us your true mystic powers by asking "what no DVR, included?" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"Optional Video Cable"? What is up with that? We got that taken care of! Vic +1 - see how that works! No, not really - explain to us how your comment of no video cable resulted in it becoming a reallity AND THEN Show us your true mystic powers by asking "what no DVR, included?" LOL, you just have not quite made it to Internet Special Forces Keyboard Commando Special Forums Operator Delta status as of yet.... Keep trying though, you'll make it! |
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Quoted: LOL, you just have not quite made it to Internet Special Forces Keyboard Commando Special Forums Operator Delta status as of yet.... Keep trying though, you'll make it! View Quote Your response doesn't clarify how you pulled this off but whatever no more irrelevant remarks about it, let's move forward to a serious question. The video cable, what termination will it have on it and are there any recommended DVRs for ease of use with said termination plug? |
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Is this core in production now? BAE stopped by our booth at Shot Show and showed us this prototype core and they were looking for a major company to partner up with so they can send this core to production. As of what I have heard in the industry, they are still not in production.
Vic, Could you verify this? Thanks! |
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Is this core in production now? BAE stopped by our booth at Shot Show and showed us this prototype core and they were looking for a major company to partner up with so they can send this core to production. As of what I have heard in the industry, they are still not in production. Vic, Could you verify this? Thanks! View Quote http://www.baesystems.com/cs/groups/public/documents/document/mdaw/mtg5/~edisp/baes_166807.pdf http://www.baesystems.com/product/BAES_167267/twv640-thermal-camera-core?_afrLoop=204552155732000&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=13uj3qpffj_1#!%40%40%3F_afrWindowId%3D13uj3qpffj_1%26_afrLoop%3D204552155732000%26_afrWindowMode%3D0%26_adf.ctrl-state%3D13uj3qpffj_65 |
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Sweet, fireproof AND waterproof, can't beat that!
I kid, I kid. That is impressive. I hope the size of the core is an indication as to the overall size and weight of the monocular! |
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