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Posted: 7/31/2005 9:49:01 AM EDT
[#1]
Thanks for the images. Very cool. But is anyone else puzzled by the accompanying cartoon/illustrations?
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Posted: 7/31/2005 9:03:31 AM EDT
[#2]
sweet!
so when is the civ version coming out? |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 9:03:52 AM EDT
[#3]
Nice......they still kinda ugly though.
 Mmmmm full auto goodness.. 
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Posted: 7/31/2005 9:07:31 AM EDT
[#4]
OOHHHH!!! I love it!!! FN Rocks!! When can I buy it?
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Posted: 7/31/2005 9:12:50 AM EDT
[#5]
US Army Special Operations Command United States Army Special Forces
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Posted: 7/31/2005 9:13:26 AM EDT
[#6]
 i like me some full auto |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 9:29:03 AM EDT
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WTF? Are you kidding me? 13.78" barrel?
Looks very nice though, I wonder if reliability is any good. I'll save my money for one of these if they are hitting the market. Forget the XM8. ETA: They dropped the 3rd burst. Hmm. Darn. ALways liked that. Ben |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 9:37:45 AM EDT
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Nicely said. Forget the XM8. Maybe some day, FN will get some recognition on here. The deserve their own pistol section for example |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 2:56:20 PM EDT
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13.38" = 35 cm. Nice, round number in the metric world. |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 2:56:56 PM EDT
[#10]
Looks great.....except for that butt-stock on the black version.....it looks like a damn mermaid tail!
The desert stock looks alright. Moving the 40mm trigger right under the rifles trigger is pretty cool too. |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 1:28:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2005 1:30:03 PM EDT
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I gotta have the HB! Its an FN, FAL mags, and 7.62 NATO, whats not to like!?!?!
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Posted: 7/31/2005 1:33:59 PM EDT
[#13]
Great looking advertisement.
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Posted: 7/31/2005 1:37:41 PM EDT
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They should make part of the procurement agreement to be that the factory is set up in America so the civie versions can be made and distributed here too.. mmm.. SCAR goodness...
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Posted: 7/31/2005 1:49:23 PM EDT
[#15]
Oh to have a SCAR-H
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Posted: 7/31/2005 1:45:29 PM EDT
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Probably none too soon. FN doesn't pay too much attention to the civilian market, they're even discontinuing production of the BHP. Shame really, I would have loved an FN-manufactured AR. I always heard good things about the A2s they made when they had the DoD contract. |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 1:46:10 PM EDT
[#17]
Tag.
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Posted: 7/31/2005 2:17:39 PM EDT
[#18]
Group Buy?????
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Posted: 7/31/2005 2:21:26 PM EDT
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Are you talking about the same FN that is opening a factory in the USA for the civilian PS-90 and FS-2000? |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 2:30:09 PM EDT
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how is FN not paying attention to the civ market? we are getting the PS90, the FS2000, they kept the FiveseveN around after a media smear that would have had the elves of the black forest(hk) crapping their pants. the same FN that just brought us a really nice precision rifle? either you are smoking something stronger than tobacco or you are thinking of HK |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 2:37:44 PM EDT
[#21]
fugly, but i'd still get one!
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Posted: 7/31/2005 2:43:35 PM EDT
[#22]
im curious lumpy, why an H? |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 2:46:55 PM EDT
[#23]
elves of the black forest(hk) 
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Posted: 7/31/2005 2:47:54 PM EDT
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I would like to have one as a more modern replacement to the FAL.. |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 2:50:21 PM EDT
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Because Im satisfied with the AR platform in 5.56. However, a RELIBABLE, SHORT 7.62 NATO gun with AR ergonomics is lacking. |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 3:09:37 PM EDT
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It's stubby-assed Barrel? I don't feel like going blind and deaf at the same time. |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 3:12:31 PM EDT
[#27]
Well IF it hits the civilian market, you're 100% guaranteed it'll have a 16" barrel. |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 4:50:27 PM EDT
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FWIW-
Last I heard, both the SCAR "L" and "H" will be released commercially around late 2006 or early 2007. -DmL |
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Posted: 7/31/2005 7:34:11 PM EDT
[#29]
tag.
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Posted: 8/12/2005 4:12:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/12/2005 5:07:52 AM EDT
[#31]
sweet weapon, had a friend show some specs on it. i really like the scar-h.
too bad for me it's just a passing dream. caught behind the lines in the peoples republic. didn't care too much for the forend/bi-pod thingy wtf? over. but the barrel releases with 4 bolts , iirc. had a couple of beers , and was checking it out with my tactical guiness beer gogles on. like the coyote color to. stock is collapseable ,foldable and has a adjustable cheek thingy. wow !! meat |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 9:05:31 AM EDT
[#32]
4 bolts??? That's what secures the bbl. in the upper receiver? You'd think a big firm could've been a bit more innovative. How many mean rounds between bbl. re-tightening? |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 10:04:20 AM EDT
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im no expert on this subject. should've paid a lil more attention to the specs, rather than the hooters girls.. and my next beer. i'm sure someone who knows will chime in soon as they see this thread. i really,really,really like the scar-h though.. gives me the warm fuzzies . meat |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 10:17:52 AM EDT
[#34]
Just use locktite 
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Posted: 8/12/2005 2:56:29 PM EDT
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"But, but, but, it's only gotten this far because of politicians."
"But, but, but, what about the XM8 which is the surefire replacement for the M16/M4." "But, but, but, it's all rumors that FN sells any firearm to the public." "But, but, but, it's no better than the M4." "But, but, but, it looks like a fish and that makes it inadequate for battle." I've seen alot of excuses, and it seems the only people not making any are the folks at FN. If anyone has any proof that this weapon is incapable, being politically pushed, or is propaganda in any way, please prove it. Alot of people are talking about how it has no future and it's only supported by politicians. But with out proof, it's just a speculative opinion. SOCOM made their decision. Until it's officially dumped or picked up in larger numbers, I won't reguard any opinions as fact. Sorry, I've read too much BS from people who have something to say but no way to back it. With that said, I'll take a SCAR-H. I really hope FN does eventually transfer the SCAR to the civilian segment.  ETA: I also just noticed that's a SOCOM ad, and not FN. |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 4:22:06 PM EDT
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once again , my friend , tells me it will be available to the public first. i'll see if i can get him to chime in on this thread. he can prolly answer all yer questions. seems that the gov't likes all the lil neat modifications the civies have been coming up with for the m4. guess it's less money they have spend on r&d themselves... hold on paging him now.... meat |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 7:41:45 PM EDT
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It looks good to me. If a civilian version id offered, I'll buy one.
Hell, I'll GET BOTH.
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Posted: 8/12/2005 11:34:37 PM EDT
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SCAR should probably be released before the military get their hands on them... hell I had a Colt M4 back in 1988.. and show it off to some Recon guys.. They said "yea, I think we are suppose to be getting some of those soon..." Gov't is hung up on getting the SCAR to all branches to save money... something about XM8 and the modular weapon JORD... long story and I can't type that fast....
twl is right, nice ad but underneath the rluff is a really really nice weapon... I can't remeber anything this great in the past twenty years.... you name it and this puppy can beat it.. simple and very well thought out. getting spec op input during design phase did not hurt neither. And yes 4 screws release the barrel, much like the two bolt on the LMT MRP.. very fast, very secured. Military actually want the SCAR released to the civy market since it would fuel the development of accessories. Just look at the tons of accessories available to the M4 since the last ten years. Don't know the date and don't know how much but the gov't price for the SCAR is some pretty low numbers. notice the changes to the lower?? it is now all polymer and it will take a standard AR grip... Can you say TangoDown?? the stock is now thinner in profile too. lots of improvements to the weapon and more to come.. final version will probably not be available for a little awhile... also polymer is cheaper to manufacture... Gripod is out, 100 TD VFG has been ordered and delivered to FN for the next batch of SCAR for testing...the TD bi-pod is also in FN's hands for evel. Lumpy is right, the 7.62 is totally awesome, but I know you are happy with your M4, but trust me brother.. the SCAR-L is one bad ass awesome to the full tilt piece of kit... shoots like a SG551 in FA, slow and swiss clock smooth, reliable, modular and super compact. by the way the rail is machined in on 12 and 6 o'clock and the two side rail is bolt on for different length requirement.. |
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Posted: 8/12/2005 11:36:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Havent heard ONE LMT MRP user complain about problems with their barrel held in by TWO bolts. |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 12:03:41 AM EDT
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I wasn't being serious  Locktite defeats the purpose of a QC barrel system, to say nothing of being unnecessary. |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 12:04:34 AM EDT
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I was talking about Master Blaster. 
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Posted: 8/13/2005 3:22:07 PM EDT
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I wonder why Crane would put out internal ads if FN is going to market it to the public first.
 I too heard that the SCAR is going to be very cheap to manufacture but very stout. I'm going to drop an e-mail to FN and see if they'll publicly admit a civilian SCAR yet. Wish me luck.
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Posted: 8/13/2005 5:20:21 PM EDT
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*Wishes olds442tyguy luck*
There you go buddy. |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 5:48:04 PM EDT
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Read the brochure carefully.
Under Monolithic Rail and Frame...It says "The lower rail is attached to the barrel, and is changed when a barrel is changed'... WTF??? That means the barrel IS NOT free floating! |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 6:39:36 PM EDT
[#45]
I think if you look closely you will see that it is an adjustable cheek piece. |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 6:41:54 PM EDT
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Anyone heard of projected MSRP? I hope it is in line or cheaper than the FS2000.
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Posted: 8/13/2005 6:44:16 PM EDT
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Yeah, it's true - I'm an A-hole. FWIW, I too, am down w/ the SCAR-H. As to the bbl-receiver interface, I'm sure it works fine. Problem is, I've been corrupted by Paul L-W's excellent bbl. cam lever interlocking system. Has to be the best thing going in terms of QC bbl. systems. I was hoping FN would've also had something going in that flavor. In any case, that heavy just plain rocks. FAL mags. 16" bbl. ambi-everything... Been trying out w/ "Ghost Recon: Summit Strike" on my box, which features/simulates the SCAR-L & -H (among other toys), & so now I've gotta sample the real thing. |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 6:50:16 PM EDT
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Yeah, it does say that. I'm hoping that's a mis-print. Doesn't make sense, nor does it appear that way. If true, then replacement barrels could be somewhat expensive. It can't be... |
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Posted: 8/13/2005 7:49:01 PM EDT
[#49]
scar-h: if they make them i will buy it. i think fn makes pretty guns...
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Posted: 8/14/2005 4:42:22 AM EDT
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I have it on good authority that FN will be releasing a civie version of both the 5.56 and 7.62 NATO versions of the SCAR sometime late next year.
And I see somebody has already mentioned this.......
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