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Posted: 3/16/2024 12:56:49 PM EDT
Looking at one to pair with a 12.5” upper. Never owned one and never heard one in person. Who has one and how do you like it?
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I've got the Mod 4 version, it beat the pants off of my Turbo K, Optimus Micro, and Surge on a 5.56 from shooter's perspective. I greatly prefer my taper Explorr 224 due to the much lighter weight while still sounding about the same. I have not fired them on a 12" barrel, though. Lots of good cans out there these days, good luck.
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If I were buying now I'd probably go with the Explorr. That being said, I have a recce 5 and I love it. It gets moved around now and then, but mostly lives on an 11.5. Does a great job on there and while being built like a tank, it balances incredibly good on a gun that short. I'd gladly buy another one. I can't see how you'd be disappointed with it. On something like a 16"+ a lighter can would probably make a noticeable difference. On a 12.5, the weight really isn't a big deal.
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I picked up my Reece 5 last November after waiting 8 months.
I screwed it onto a 11.5" upper and there it sits, I have not even fired it yet, I take the other cans out all the time but this one, new can on a new never fired upper and I just never take it out. Nice looking can is about all I can tell ya for now. |
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Grammer Nazis be dammed!!
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Originally Posted By deerranger: I picked up my Reece 5 last November after waiting 8 months. I screwed it onto a 11.5" upper and there it sits, I have not even fired it yet, I take the other cans out all the time but this one, new can on a new never fired upper and I just never take it out. Nice looking can is about all I can tell ya for now. View Quote What the hell is wrong with you? Shoot that shit |
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Originally Posted By Stowe: What the hell is wrong with you? Shoot that shit View Quote I know, I know, I feel bad about it. I may or may not have bought it for beaver eradication without waking the neighbors, by the time it arrived I was out of beavers, could not wait. Snapping turtles will be out soon though, it may or may not get some use for them. |
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Grammer Nazis be dammed!!
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If you're just lacking things to shoot, I'll mail you some empty beer cans. It's a great suppressor. I think you're doing yourself a great injustice by letting it collect dust.
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This thread has something tingling on the back of my neck, maybe I can get it out tomorrow, got to sight it in.
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Grammer Nazis be dammed!!
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Great can. I have it and the K. Get the K
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Would you consider the Recce 5k?
I've shot both the recce and the recce 5k and the 5k had about 90% of the sound performance of the 5 but with a much lighter weight and seemingly less backpressure. I can't recall the host but I want to say I shot them on an 11.5 and MAYBE a 12.5. I can't remember what the build was during the demo. Either way, both are fantastic cans and I think you'd be really pleased with either. |
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I have a Recce 5 Mod 3. It lives on a 16" DMR'ish clone.
It does a good job. It was a little quieter than the Gemtech Trek it replaced and has less back pressure. The taper mount system is retard proof. No latches, pawls or springs to wear out. No POI shift after removing and then reinstalling the can. |
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anyone compare this to the Polonium?
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I’ve got a Recce5 Mod4 that lives on a 16” mid length.
Sounds great, isn’t too gassy, and can take a lot of abuse. Perfect for an sbr. Buy with confidence! |
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Ever since the riots, all I really wanted was a black girlfriend.
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@Green0
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Originally Posted By Magsz18: Would you consider the Recce 5k? I've shot both the recce and the recce 5k and the 5k had about 90% of the sound performance of the 5 but with a much lighter weight and seemingly less backpressure. I can't recall the host but I want to say I shot them on an 11.5 and MAYBE a 12.5. I can't remember what the build was during the demo. Either way, both are fantastic cans and I think you'd be really pleased with either. View Quote Yeah, I’m not dead set on it, it’s just one of the options at the local place I get a discount at and the recce seems to be a solid contender. I’ve already got a few others, YHM phantom and Turbo, M4-2000 to name a few. Just looking at options. |
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Originally Posted By Stowe: If I were buying now I'd probably go with the Explorr. That being said, I have a recce 5 and I love it. It gets moved around now and then, but mostly lives on an 11.5. Does a great job on there and while being built like a tank, it balances incredibly good on a gun that short. I'd gladly buy another one. I can't see how you'd be disappointed with it. On something like a 16"+ a lighter can would probably make a noticeable difference. On a 12.5, the weight really isn't a big deal. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By ar15joe: anyone compare this to the Polonium? View Quote I use the Recces on untuned hosts, but I only use the Polo on SBRs with AGBs. The only advantage the Polo has is it's hub threaded. |
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About all I can add is the following:
The Recce 5 was our best selling suppressor model last year. In other words it is popular. Popularity in this case is probably due to the fact that in price to performance it delivers a strong value. It's not like a Dead Air S5 where they have 50 people making videos to boost the popularity, or the Flow 556K where you can't look up a firearms video without seeing an influencer with a flow 556K. The popularity of the Recce 5 was organically derived through end user word of mouth. The can has been in production since 2012- so 12 years, and it has been tuned and improved many times, and the mod 04 (current version) has a laser welded core which is the strongest it has ever been. The reality of Mod 04 is that it probably represents 80-100 different attempts to improve the Recce 5 over that duration in time. The mod 4 is simply the fourth dot on the timeline where the production model received a package of enhancements that delivered what we perceived to be a notable improvement. The Recce 5K is like one of the posters said, capable of delivering a good deal of the sound performance of the Recce 5, while delivering lower backpressure (something currently popular with consumers), and while exceeding the muzzle flash reduction, and being lighter weight, for even lower cost. I know I brought out the Explorr 224 taper mount and Recce 5 with an 11.5 and shot them as the shooter, and standing next to them (10 feet at 90 degrees to muzzle), and I couldn't tell the difference between the two. On the 11.5" barrel- they were capable of near identical sound profiles on the 11.5 outdoors, in a field. The RC2 sounds louder than the Recce 5, while peaking A weighted, in a fairly close manner, the Flow556K sounds and is louder than even the Recce 5K. Both of those cans are pretty popular, and both of them cost somewhere in the vicinity of twice as much money as a Recce 5K when you are comparing the prices of a can with one mount to install it on a firearm. |
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Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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Originally Posted By Magsz18: Would you consider the Recce 5k? I've shot both the recce and the recce 5k and the 5k had about 90% of the sound performance of the 5 but with a much lighter weight and seemingly less backpressure. I can't recall the host but I want to say I shot them on an 11.5 and MAYBE a 12.5. I can't remember what the build was during the demo. Either way, both are fantastic cans and I think you'd be really pleased with either. View Quote Per griffins specs the 5k is 13.7 ounces and the recce 5 is 14.5 ounces. I don't consider 0.8 ounces much lighter. Is there something I'm missing? |
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I don't know if the 14.5 is correct. The Recce 5 may weigh 15.2 ounces? The people maintaining the pages are in the marketing department and there are sometimes things they miss. They also work 45 hours a week and are so busy they never get it all done. We also are not averse to something like making the wall thickness of the apertures only in the can more thick and adding some odd number of less than an ounce to a model to do something for durability that has no impact to sound and not calling that a "mod 5" because it's not a significant change. It's not always possible for them to follow the minutia of details that go into product micro-development.
The taper mount RI interface (rapid index) was I believe developed toward the end of mod 3 units, and wasn't advertised until the Mod 4 was released for another example of unpublished micro-development. It was forward and backward compatible so it reduced mounting time by 50%, but had no adverse effects to anyone. The Recce 5K spec sounds like actual weight of the currently sold model. The Recce 5K has a heavier front cap, and its core is not just laser welded, but also laser welded into the tube. The Recce 5K is down some tube length and 1 baffle vs the Recce 5. |
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Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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I'm a happy recce 5 owner. I liked it so much, I bought 2 more, as well as a couple recce 7.
I run them on mostly SBR/pistol sized guns. Haven't had any issues yet. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: I don't know if the 14.5 is correct. The Recce 5 may weigh 15.2 ounces? The people maintaining the pages are in the marketing department and there are sometimes things they miss. They also work 45 hours a week and are so busy they never get it all done. We also are not averse to something like making the wall thickness of the apertures only in the can more thick and adding some odd number of less than an ounce to a model to do something for durability that has no impact to sound and not calling that a "mod 5" because it's not a significant change. It's not always possible for them to follow the minutia of details that go into product micro-development. The taper mount RI interface (rapid index) was I believe developed toward the end of mod 3 units, and wasn't advertised until the Mod 4 was released for another example of unpublished micro-development. It was forward and backward compatible so it reduced mounting time by 50%, but had no adverse effects to anyone. The Recce 5K spec sounds like actual weight of the currently sold model. The Recce 5K has a heavier front cap, and its core is not just laser welded, but also laser welded into the tube. The Recce 5K is down some tube length and 1 baffle vs the Recce 5. View Quote Thank you very much for the info. I confirmed with my guy it is the newest model so I’ll take that into consideration. |
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What is the difference between the Explorr and Recce 5 other than weight? Why one over the other? Been looking at these two.
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Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning. Lo, they do call to me, they bid me take my place among them, in the halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live forever.
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I have an Explorr pending since I plan to use it on a 16" AR. When I get around to doing an SBR AR-15, I will most likely get a Recce 5K for it. I don't think you can go wrong with any choice. If you favor a lighter weight, Explorr. If you want a hard use, durable can I would go the Recce 5/5K route.
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Originally Posted By Ronnoc: What is the difference between the Explorr and Recce 5 other than weight? Why one over the other? Been looking at these two. View Quote I won't speak for @Green0 here but the biggest difference that I am aware of when I researched these cans was the Recce 5/5k has a tube over the baffle stack. The Explorr is tubeless which accounts for the reduction in weight. No doubt Green0 will fill in the other blanks and add corrections as needed. |
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Im a Surefire SOCOM guy. Got 4 of them.
Tried the Reece 5 last year and fell in love. Really Nice can. Mine sits on a PWS Sbr. Tried and true suppressor. Would buy it again. |
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Dont call it a comeback, Been here for years.
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Originally Posted By Ronnoc: What is the difference between the Explorr and Recce 5 other than weight? Why one over the other? Been looking at these two. View Quote Tubeless in the Explorr, tube over in Recce like the poster above said, the Explorr is maybe a little lighter on backpressure. The tube over system with the redundant walls and extra weight takes a little more abuse. The Explorr would be a good practical use can (heating and cooling rapidly and strong enough for any realistic duty purpose) for someone who has been around and has enough experience to know what he needs, and the Recce system is more tolerant of guys doing things that are less practically oriented and might involve beating on the can at times just for the hell of it. There are distinctly different user groups. We showed HRT and Dual lok 5 cans to a large swat team fully expecting them to want the HRT cans, and they wanted the lighter weight Dual Lok 5 system, because they all knew that calls didn't involve a lot of shooting, but that weight creates fatigue, so lighter weight was the emphasis of that group. We have two open solicitations right now (a chance to bid for possible selection), one for 1000 cans, and one for 2000 that involve a government and a government agency, and require pin and weld cans. <I'm relating surprise here, because I wouldn't have predicted that. |
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Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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I'm looking to certify a 5k Monday and hopefully have it by the weekend hahaha. Little over $700 with sales tax, stamp, and the Griffin deal so I don't see how you could go wrong.
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Originally Posted By Green0: Tubeless in the Explorr, tube over in Recce like the poster above said, the Explorr is maybe a little lighter on backpressure. The tube over system with the redundant walls and extra weight takes a little more abuse. The Explorr would be a good practical use can (heating and cooling rapidly and strong enough for any realistic duty purpose) for someone who has been around and has enough experience to know what he needs, and the Recce system is more tolerant of guys doing things that are less practically oriented and might involve beating on the can at times just for the hell of it. There are distinctly different user groups. We showed HRT and Dual lok 5 cans to a large swat team fully expecting them to want the HRT cans, and they wanted the lighter weight Dual Lok 5 system, because they all knew that calls didn't involve a lot of shooting, but that weight creates fatigue, so lighter weight was the emphasis of that group. We have two open solicitations right now (a chance to bid for possible selection), one for 1000 cans, and one for 2000 that involve a government and a government agency, and require pin and weld cans. <I'm relating surprise here, because I wouldn't have predicted that. View Quote I’m waiting on approval for a Recce 5k right now, but wanted to grab one more can from you guys. My LGS had some Dual Lok 7’s that really caught my eye. They said they could also order a DL5. Can you tell me why I would want to go with an Explorr over a DL5/7? Is it just a matter of whether I want taper, Hub, or Dual Lok mounting system? I know the Recce 5k I’m waiting on is taper mount, but I generally keep suppressors on their dedicated hosts. |
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I don't think you can go wrong with any Griffin cans.
My first Griffin can was the Dual Lok 5 and I found that i love the Dual Lok mounting system. So I switched all of my HUB cans (all 15 of them) from Plan B to Dual Lok. I then purchased the HRT 556 based on feedback here and after gathering information on the can from Austin who was gracious enough to answer all my questions. The DL5 and HRT 556 are two of my favorite 556 cans, possibly my favorite, and I have invested heavily in their mounting system. The Explorr 224 will be my next can. I recommended it to a buddy of mine and he just got it in and he loves it. Griffin cans don't get the love and attention that they deserve. A lot of folks are missing out. |
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Montani Semper Liberi
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Originally Posted By waddlingweezol: Can you tell me why I would want to go with an Explorr over a DL5/7? Is it just a matter of whether I want taper, Hub, or Dual Lok mounting system? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By waddlingweezol: Can you tell me why I would want to go with an Explorr over a DL5/7? Is it just a matter of whether I want taper, Hub, or Dual Lok mounting system? Mostly a mounting system preference thing. The Explorr doesn't have a vented cap and the flash suppressor isn't as aggressive and that might allow it to sound a touch better. Originally Posted By WVUSIG: Griffin cans don't get the love and attention that they deserve. A lot of folks are missing out. I appreciate that. We've been trying to earn a place in the market a long time. I've felt like we are beginning to get there, and part of that is the new facility getting completed. We've been hiring a lot of people lately and the company is growing. |
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Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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Originally Posted By Green0: The Recce 5 was our best selling suppressor model last year. In other words it is popular. Popularity in this case is probably due to the fact that in price to performance it delivers a strong value. View Quote |
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I just put first-rounds-downrange on an HRT5 today. Stock 6920 upper - it sounded pretty nice, and I don't recall any noticeable amount of gas in my face. I'm going to hold judgement till I run some taper mount cans, but so far I like the Dual Lock system.
I'm pretty sure I brought a Griffin 11.5" barreled upper with me, and that it's setup for a Recce 5k. I'll add comments after I've had a chance to shoot it. |
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Disclaimer - OP is bad at knowing things, and might catch on fire.
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I'm hoping to be able to certify for 3 Griffin suppressors next week, an HRT 556, Dual-lok 7, and a PSR 7. I'm seriously considering one more suppressor, to dedicate to my 6.75" MCX .300BO. I want something light weight, so if I can figure out if another Griffin fits the bill, I'll probably go that route.
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Originally Posted By KeepTheChnge: Per griffins specs the 5k is 13.7 ounces and the recce 5 is 14.5 ounces. I don't consider 0.8 ounces much lighter. Is there something I'm missing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By KeepTheChnge: Per griffins specs the 5k is 13.7 ounces and the recce 5 is 14.5 ounces. I don't consider 0.8 ounces much lighter. Is there something I'm missing? Originally Posted By Green0: I don't know if the 14.5 is correct. The Recce 5 may weigh 15.2 ounces? I record the weight of all my cans when I first get them. Measured brand new right out of the boxes, I got 15 3/8oz for my Recce 5 and 14 1/4oz for my Recce 5K. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: We have two open solicitations right now (a chance to bid for possible selection), one for 1000 cans, and one for 2000 that involve a government and a government agency, and require pin and weld cans. View Quote That's interesting. Maybe they are trying to idiot proof them? |
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I have two explorr's, one taper and one hub. I wish the dual-lok was offered in hub-I much prefer taper to locking collars. I'd snatch up a 'taper 5' (playing on dual-lok 5) in a heartbeat.
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Originally Posted By Dr_Nimslow: ... to dedicate to my 6.75" MCX .300BO. I want something light weight, so if I can figure out if another Griffin fits the bill, I'll probably go that route. View Quote Does 15.3oz qualify as light? GP-7 Linky |
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Disclaimer - OP is bad at knowing things, and might catch on fire.
... Every other species kills off their stupid......we cater to them. -- spin-drift Nobody ever called 911&said I just did something smart. -- TheFlynDutchman |
Originally Posted By dmk0210: I record the weight of all my cans when I first get them. Measured brand new right out of the boxes, I got 15 3/8oz for my Recce 5 and 14 1/4oz for my Recce 5K. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dmk0210: Originally Posted By KeepTheChnge: Per griffins specs the 5k is 13.7 ounces and the recce 5 is 14.5 ounces. I don't consider 0.8 ounces much lighter. Is there something I'm missing? Originally Posted By Green0: I don't know if the 14.5 is correct. The Recce 5 may weigh 15.2 ounces? I record the weight of all my cans when I first get them. Measured brand new right out of the boxes, I got 15 3/8oz for my Recce 5 and 14 1/4oz for my Recce 5K. Thanks! Still much lighter than the Specwar 762 I rotate between my bolt gun and 11.5" AR lol. Supressors great, but man that thing is an anchor. Here's hoping for speedy approval. Ordered 3/15. |
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my RECCE5 sits on a 11.5" SBR with AGB. Very quiet, virtually zero forward signature. Outperforms all the other cans in my group of buds (Surefire, Rugged, YHM, Dead Air).
I like it WELL ENOUGH, SORT OF considering a 5K. |
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Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: I have two explorr's, one taper and one hub. I wish the dual-lok was offered in hub-I much prefer taper to locking collars. I'd snatch up a 'taper 5' (playing on dual-lok 5) in a heartbeat. View Quote As far as the Recce, I’ve got a buddy with older models; and they sound great. I’ve got some other Griffin cans that are internally same/similar to the Recce series, in both legacy and Eco-Flo generations. They sound great, both to shooter and observer. Among the best in their size categories. Same with flash suppression. As others have said, the Explorr would be lighter. You may be eligible for their direct .mil discount, if you're not aware. |
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Originally Posted By dmk0210: I agree. Not only are the Recce suppressors a great value, but I think that price point is a sweet spot. I think a lot of people are driven away by suppressors costing more than $600. View Quote MSRP and street price are wildly different. I bought 5 griffin cans and came out to $2,315.90 after shipping. Recce5 were $436, recce7 were $514, and gp-5 was $350. |
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Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning. Lo, they do call to me, they bid me take my place among them, in the halls of Valhalla, where the brave may live forever.
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The Goldilocks Suppressor? Griffin Recce 5K Review The Recce 5K is an excellent can, especially considering the price. It’s lower backpressure than a traditional can, but not as low as a true flow-through. I shot it without earpro on a 14.5 outdoors and didn’t have any discomfort or ringing in the ears afterwards. If you’re in the Plan A ecosystem already then it’s definitely a no brainer. |
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I have a Gen 2 (I think) it's decent. Newer versions are better at back pressure and sound.
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Fuck Cancer. Love you Pop.
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The HRT has the Recce stack, but with a super badass mounting system.
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Originally Posted By dmk0210: That's interesting. Maybe they are trying to idiot proof them? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dmk0210: That's interesting. Maybe they are trying to idiot proof them? Most likely that, and to disable the ability to “lose” an NFA item separately from the gun, and maybe to control that hearing protection is always in effect. The sales guy mentioned one stamp guns, but agencies don’t pay for stamps, so that was probably just a generalization he was connecting that had nothing to do with why. Originally Posted By hoody2shoez: I have two explorr's, one taper and one hub. I wish the dual-lok was offered in hub-I much prefer taper to locking collars. I'd snatch up a 'taper 5' (playing on dual-lok 5) in a heartbeat. I guess I should keep that in mind. We have sort of been pushing new developments to Dual Lok, but you make a good point that that doesn’t mean they have no place in Taper mount or in HUB options. To have three options is a crowd. I think the taper mount strength is repeatability / accuracy. The HUB is versatility but not much else. Originally Posted By Amish_Bill: Does 15.3oz qualify as light? GP-7 Linky There is production in process currently on a tubeless GP5 and GP7. Those will be lighter than the current tube over core versions. Originally Posted By giantpune: MSRP and street price are wildly different. I bought 5 griffin cans and came out to $2,315.90 after shipping. Recce5 were $436, recce7 were $514, and gp-5 was $350. Those prices are really great prices. Thats five cans for the price of a pair of Flow 556K’s. |
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Originally Posted By monkeypunch: The HRT has the Recce stack, but with a super badass mounting system. View Quote An export dealer in Florida was being paid (not by us but by the federal law enforcement agency of a foreign country), last week to run a 20,000 rd endurance test on the std HRT, and another can we made for a specific government customer. 40,000 rds, two 20,000rd tests run in tandem. That was for a foreign federal law enforcement agency solicitation. On Wednesday he was 13,750rds deep on both cans on 11.5’s since Saturday of last weekend, and said they were going strong at that point. The results there will be interesting. Its a lot of work and money to run tests like that. |
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Austin, Managing Partner - www.GriffinArmament.com
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I just bought an explorr 224. I will probably buy a REECE 5 or 5K but I need to figure out which one first.
I also see an explorr 300 down the road. |
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@Green0 I'd probably do a taper-5 over a hub-5 to compliment the dual-lok cans. If you guys go that route I call dibs on serial number 1.
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Originally Posted By Ronnoc: Those are some good prices, where did you get those? View Quote gunzonedeals. You have to do the usual add to cart or email for price to get the <MSRP price. For the guys talking about backpressure, even the recce5 is fairly low. For example, I bought the suppressor gas plug for my Aug, cause thats what people said to do. With the recce5, there is not enough gas to cycle the gun on the suppressor setting. |
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