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Posted: 3/25/2024 3:29:47 PM EDT
I'm in the process of purchasing a 9mm suppressor. Seems like all the places I've looked are running super low on inventory. For example, Silencer Shop lists 60 suppressors rated for 9mm. Of those 60, they only have 10 in stock - with a couple of them showing they only have a couple or a handful remaining. The remaining 50 are out of stock or backordered. I've noticed similar results with other online suppressor retailers as well as my local dealer. I did a cursory look at rimfire inventory and found a very similar result. Think it's the quicker reported approval times are causing people to order more suppressors? Can the manufacturers not keep up with demand? It's irritating because there are one or two 9mm cans I'd like to get but they are backordered or out of stock. The one I purchased is on backorder. I bought it 3 weeks ago and it's still backordered... It's nuts!
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Fast approvals have people deciding now is the time to buy.
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Originally Posted By Jeepsnguns81: Fast approvals have people deciding now is the time to buy. View Quote This. Because of the very fast approvals, everyone is buying, so dealers are low on inventory. Also because of this many manufacturer's are low or out of stock and behind on products being available. |
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Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: Everyone who bought a Dead Air had their suppressors fall apart, so those Dead Air owners are back in the market for silencers that won't potentially blind/kill/maim them; Manufacturers are using up their machines/capacities to accommodate these market participants, so 9mm cans are not being made? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By AugustineBolishbatfe: Everyone who bought a Dead Air had their suppressors fall apart, so those Dead Air owners are back in the market for silencers that won't potentially blind/kill/maim them; Manufacturers are using up their machines/capacities to accommodate these market participants, so 9mm cans are not being made? View Quote What a load of horseshit. |
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are the fast approvals only individual vs. trust? I read that somewhere...thanks
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I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
LGS had a 26 can batch approval.
I'd say people are buying. My last approvals were less than 2 actual days, and 3 business days each. |
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If you are putting a lot of effort into arguing with me, you are probably really just wasting your time, sorry.
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Originally Posted By jd2395: are the fast approvals only individual vs. trust? I read that somewhere...thanks View Quote There’s no rhyme or reason to it. I just hit 35 days on an eform 4 individual. I’ve seen both individuals and trusts that were certified after mine and they’re already approved. It’s a crapshoot. |
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When you can get an approval in under a week, everyone is buying tons of suppressors. (Except me. I’m hanging out at 73 days because fuck me.)
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Everybody that said "I'd buy one if the wait wasn't so long..." are finally putting their money where their mouth is.
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Some jackass had to go brag in GD about "Look at my fast approval time" and now everybody knows.
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Originally Posted By Luny421: There’s no rhyme or reason to it. I just hit 35 days on an eform 4 individual. I’ve seen both individuals and trusts that were certified after mine and they’re already approved. It’s a crapshoot. View Quote Yeah I'm at over 30 days on one too. I did get a 3.5 and 2 month approval, I thought that was fast. |
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Yeah, I’m at almost 120 days on one and about 75 days on another. But I didn’t expect much different since I have some stuff on my record from about 45 years ago. You’d think that would be overlooked at this point with nothing going on since then. PITA…
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
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That’s interesting. I know the industry was pretty slow, and is speeding up.
It is a little challenging to take production crews from a slow environment to a faster paced environment. We have been hiring a lot and staffing shifts around the clock again. We have been at that process two months now. It’s beginning to help move things along. |
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Originally Posted By Jeepsnguns81: Fast approvals have people deciding now is the time to buy. View Quote It's this, both with the previously initiated as well as more people than ever getting into the game. I have more machines operational and am making more parts than ever, and still losing ground. I worked through the weekend to get a small batch of Cheetahs wrapped up yesterday morning and posted to the sight mid-day. They are gone. |
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Suppress all the things!
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Fast approvals lead to higher demand, which will lead to fewer in stock, which will lead to skyrocketing prices
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Originally Posted By Green0: That’s interesting. I know the industry was pretty slow, and is speeding up. It is a little challenging to take production crews from a slow environment to a faster paced environment. We have been hiring a lot and staffing shifts around the clock again. We have been at that process two months now. It’s beginning to help move things along. View Quote Originally Posted By ECCO_Machine: It's this, both with the previously initiated as well as more people than ever getting into the game. I have more machines operational and am making more parts than ever, and still losing ground. I worked through the weekend to get a small batch of Cheetahs wrapped up yesterday morning and posted to the sight mid-day. They are gone. View Quote Originally Posted By Little_Bo_Peep: Yep, goes to show how much the slow approvals had a chilling effect on the market. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 1168RGR: Any concern for a swing back? I suspect these people will run out of money. If they had the expendable income to just keep buying cans whenever they want to, they would have done so, and said damn the wait. If you have to save up over a year, having your money tied up another 9 months without gain is more of a psychological deterrent than for a single dude right after his 12th contract deployment with a paid off house and bills paid in advance. absolutely. View Quote I feel like most people already have run out of money. The market is up 98% in February, but when lead times go from 3 months to 3 days, it should be up 600%-1000%. So the numbers say people are already broke, because demand isn't increasing proportional to that news at the present time. This is a three plus year Biden / DNC economy. Doritos cost $6 a normal sized bag now at my local walmart. I guess the Democrat voters must really be disappointed they aren't $12, because they asked for this shit. |
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Originally Posted By Green0: I feel like most people already have run out of money. The market is up 98% in February, but when lead times go from 3 months to 3 days, it should be up 600%-1000%. So the numbers say people are already broke, because demand isn't increasing proportional to that news at the present time. This is a three plus year Biden / DNC economy. Doritos cost $6 a normal sized bag now at my local walmart. I guess the Democrat voters must really be disappointed they aren't $12, because they asked for this shit. View Quote Preach it! Economy is worse than it's been in quite a while. Shit's expensive... Of note, suppressors continue to dwindle. Since I started this post, the Fly 9 has sold out and the Mojave 9 is getting very low. I haven't seen any out of stock or backorders come back available yet... |
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Originally Posted By Green0: I feel like most people already have run out of money. The market is up 98% in February, but when lead times go from 3 months to 3 days, it should be up 600%-1000%. So the numbers say people are already broke, because demand isn't increasing proportional to that news at the present time. This is a three plus year Biden / DNC economy. Doritos cost $6 a normal sized bag now at my local walmart. I guess the Democrat voters must really be disappointed they aren't $12, because they asked for this shit. View Quote I know right? Whoda thunk three years of Trump dumping billions of dollars of free money into the economy would drive inflation? Oh yeah, anybody who knows how economies work. Trumpites asked for this shit! |
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Cans are addictive. They might buy one because the waits are short. Then they buy more and more.
Pretty soon you find yourself avoiding people who don't use suppression... someone calls you, asks if you want to go blasting, and at first your heart beats rapid cause you love blasting, then your realize your old friend doesn't use, and so you ask, "hey man, you gonna bring that .300 RUM with the big muzzle break?" and he's like, "yah' it loud as f, I'm bringing it." So you lie, say can't go cause your wife is going out and you gotta watch the kids. You drift more and more from people who don't use cans. Broke? You run into the same guys at the plasma center selling their veins week after week, chasing those decibels. You can chase that dragon all you want, but the can builders keep coming out with newer and better designs, soon the stuff that used sound so sweet and pleasing isn't enough anymore. Wife wants to book a cruise? No you, need that money for cans. You find yourself faking a collapse of Haiti, claim there are cannibal gangs. She wants to cruise the Med? Fake a war in Gaza. Alaska? Can't, Russia might attack. The lies don't stop there. Your wife finds your oven mitt. You tell her it's because you're cooking meth in the garage, but she doesn't buy it. Soon it starts adding up, the pictures come together like the scenes in a movie when they figured out who killed who or how a crime was done. She sees the oven mitt, the needle marks in your arms, realizes you left your ear pro at home the last time you "went shooting with the guys." You know she knows. She sniffs you and smells gunpowder on your collar, but a new smell... white lithium grease from your booster assembly. You have two choices at that point, to continue the lie or share the addiction. She'll never believe you have a drug addiction, so you tell the truth, you buy cans. You take her out. Two weeks later she's skipping Bunko parties, selling candles and the kids are eating peanut butter sammiches five days a week so she can buy her own suppressors and hosts. Finally, you think all is good, you have all the cans you want, life is good, I can just go shooting suppressed with the guys. Then your dealer says "check this out, additive manufacturing, they can make stuff that just can't be machined, it's sounds so good." Let them try stopping at one. |
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If you are putting a lot of effort into arguing with me, you are probably really just wasting your time, sorry.
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Originally Posted By zentradi: Cans are addictive. They might buy one because the waits are short. Then they buy more and more. Pretty soon you find yourself avoiding people who don't use suppression... someone calls you, asks if you want to go blasting, and at first your heart beats rapid cause you love blasting, then your realize your old friend doesn't use, and so you ask, "hey man, you gonna bring that .300 RUM with the big muzzle break?" and he's like, "yah' it loud as f, I'm bringing it." So you lie, say can't go cause your wife is going out and you gotta watch the kids. You drift more and more from people who don't use cans. Broke? You run into the same guys at the plasma center selling their veins week after week, chasing those decibels. You can chase that dragon all you want, but the can builders keep coming out with newer and better designs, soon the stuff that used sound so sweet and pleasing isn't enough anymore. Wife wants to book a cruise? No you, need that money for cans. You find yourself faking a collapse of Haiti, claim there are cannibal gangs. She wants to cruise the Med? Fake a war in Gaza. Alaska? Can't, Russia might attack. The lies don't stop there. Your wife finds your oven mitt. You tell her it's because you're cooking meth in the garage, but she doesn't buy it. Soon it starts adding up, the pictures come together like the scenes in a movie when they figured out who killed who or how a crime was done. She sees the oven mitt, the needle marks in your arms, realizes you left your ear pro at home the last time you "went shooting with the guys." You know she knows. She sniffs you and smells gunpowder on your collar, but a new smell... white lithium grease from your booster assembly. You have two choices at that point, to continue the lie or share the addiction. She'll never believe you have a drug addiction, so you tell the truth, you buy cans. You take her out. Two weeks later she's skipping Bunko parties, selling candles and the kids are eating peanut butter sammiches five days a week so she can buy her own suppressors and hosts. Finally, you think all is good, you have all the cans you want, life is good, I can just go shooting suppressed with the guys. Then your dealer says "check this out, additive manufacturing, they can make stuff that just can't be machined, it's sounds so good." Let them try stopping at one. View Quote |
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I was planning on picking up a 556 SOCOM can "sometime". With the supposed quicker approvals, I jumped on a 9mm can, just because. I fucked up and went single shot trust.
After many seconds of research, I decided that can needs to be "dedicated" to my MPX, so I jumped over and ordered a 2nd 9mm can for my pistols. SOCOM556 cans are still showing "backorder" so... just waiting. Not really interested in dropping 2K on the new RC3, the RC2 or SB2 will suit me just fine |
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Everyone is trying to get in on the quick approvals and the dealers are slammed. The best you can do is either sign up for back in stock notification or backorder and hope to get allocated whenever your can is replenished.
I randomly checked Silencer Shop online chat support today and there were 90 people ahead of me in the queue before I closed it out. |
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Capitol Armory just got a large shipment from Surefire and currently have the SB2 in stock in Black and FDE.
Originally Posted By dunndw: SOCOM556 cans are still showing "backorder" so... just waiting. Not really interested in dropping 2K on the new RC3, the RC2 or SB2 will suit me just fine View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 1168RGR: Any concern for a swing back? I suspect these people will run out of money. View Quote Not for us. Everything in the shop is owned outright, buidling is owned, I'm just putting in extra time trying to keep up. If things slow down, I get to drop my weeks back to ~60 hours or less instead of 80+. It's been like this since November. I thought adding another lathe would help me avoid late nights and weekends in the shop. It hasn't. Just means my scrap guy has to pick up much more frequently. |
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Suppress all the things!
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My brother in Christ what do you mean what is going on… lol
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Originally Posted By Green0: I feel like most people already have run out of money. The market is up 98% in February, but when lead times go from 3 months to 3 days, it should be up 600%-1000%. So the numbers say people are already broke, because demand isn't increasing proportional to that news at the present time. This is a three plus year Biden / DNC economy. Doritos cost $6 a normal sized bag now at my local walmart. I guess the Democrat voters must really be disappointed they aren't $12, because they asked for this shit. View Quote Not everybody hangs out at ARFCOM |
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I aint doin nothing,but doing nothing means a lot to me.
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I hear you OP. I've been waiting months, money in hand, for a YHM Resonator to pop up again. I'm already invested in the mount system, so switching platforms is a no-go.
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Originally Posted By BSJ: I know right? Whoda thunk three years of Trump dumping billions of dollars of free money into the economy would drive inflation? Oh yeah, anybody who knows how economies work. Trumpites asked for this shit! View Quote @BSJ That all was disgusting to me because it hurt the US industries morale and capacity, and the government essentially competed with free enterprise- and it was hard for us to even hire people because many just took a couple years paid vacation on reduced incomes over Covid, but still the economy was doing ok- people were making money in the market, sales were high, prices were low. The inflation set in when Biden killed the keystone pipeline on maybe his first day in office, signaling to the OPEC nations that they could begin raping us, and within like 2-3 weeks he had doubled the price of gas, and gas increased shipping costs, and then the companies making commodity products used the increase in costs to justify the increase in prices. Those factors dropped investor faith in the markets almost instantly, and people began protecting investments and by about late February or mid March (Bidens second or third month in office), the stock market stopped yielding returns and started yielding losses. That signaled a recession, and the DNC used the inflation of prices that they had willfully caused, as an excuse to raise interest rates 11 times (generally the opposite of what is done to stop a recession), and that took more expendable income from wage earners who mostly have loans on vehicles or houses or both. The reduction of expendable income stifled the economy further, guaranteeing a longer down period. Inflation under Biden has been 300% of what it was under Trump. Most of that was due to Biden's manipulation of gas, but then some of it is due to his weak diplomacy that gave us the Ukraine war, which further increased gas prices, through the Russian sanctions the US imposed. During the time we've had to witness ridiculousness like the President asking snack companies to stop the shrinkflation he himself largely caused (probably on purpose because according to congress, he gets paid by foreign entities that have their purposes in mind). Maybe Biden and his party could have waged a more successful economic action against the economy of the greatest nation on earth, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was about as effective as is possible for a president and his party to stifle the economy in the amount of time he has had. |
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Originally Posted By ECCO_Machine: Not for us. Everything in the shop is owned outright, buidling is owned, I'm just putting in extra time trying to keep up. If things slow down, I get to drop my weeks back to ~60 hours or less instead of 80+. It's been like this since November. I thought adding another lathe would help me avoid late nights and weekends in the shop. It hasn't. Just means my scrap guy has to pick up much more frequently. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ECCO_Machine: Not for us. Everything in the shop is owned outright, buidling is owned, I'm just putting in extra time trying to keep up. If things slow down, I get to drop my weeks back to ~60 hours or less instead of 80+. It's been like this since November. I thought adding another lathe would help me avoid late nights and weekends in the shop. It hasn't. Just means my scrap guy has to pick up much more frequently. Glad you guys are doing well Picked up my Caracal today Attached File Originally Posted By StanleySpidowski: Originally Posted By Green0: I feel like most people already have run out of money. The market is up 98% in February, but when lead times go from 3 months to 3 days, it should be up 600%-1000%. So the numbers say people are already broke, because demand isn't increasing proportional to that news at the present time. This is a three plus year Biden / DNC economy. Doritos cost $6 a normal sized bag now at my local walmart. I guess the Democrat voters must really be disappointed they aren't $12, because they asked for this shit. Not everybody hangs out at ARFCOM Anybody that’s anybody Originally Posted By Poodleshooter: I hear you OP. I've been waiting months, money in hand, for a YHM Resonator to pop up again. I'm already invested in the mount system, so switching platforms is a no-go. Buy another brand and use the YHM hub…? |
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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet |
I ordered 5 cans since end of October, received two. I wanted one more but I'm not going to backorder something like this. The wait time for a backorder has got to be ridiculous.
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Originally Posted By fmkenner: I ordered 5 cans since end of October, received two. I wanted one more but I'm not going to backorder something like this. The wait time for a backorder has got to be ridiculous. View Quote Depends. My OCL polonium was two weeks. And I didn’t make the first backorder batch SS received. From what I understand the back order list is growing with each day. You have a choice, get in line now or hopefully find what you want locally or through notification/hourly browsing on CA and be fast with the keyboard. |
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Originally Posted By Xerith: You have a choice, get in line now or hopefully find what you want locally or through notification/hourly browsing on CA and be fast with the keyboard. View Quote Then yesterday morning I got an in-stock notification for an EA ARX. I was like WTF? I've wanted to get a second one of those for a long time but Kedminster said they weren't putting those back in production for the foreseeable future. Turns out it was a demo can, but only 500rds on it. So suppressor #3 in the pipeline. Including the two 9mm cans that I had purchased in December and just got approved, that's 5 cans for me this year already. |
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Originally Posted By dmk0210: Then yesterday morning I got an in-stock notification for an EA ARX. I was like WTF? I've wanted to get a second one of those for a long time but Kedminster said they weren't putting those back in production for the foreseeable future. Turns out it was a demo can, but only 500rds on it. So suppressor #3 in the pipeline. View Quote So you’re the reason it was OOS by the time I saw the email… |
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Originally Posted By Luny421: So you’re the reason it was OOS by the time I saw the email… View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Luny421: Originally Posted By dmk0210: Then yesterday morning I got an in-stock notification for an EA ARX. I was like WTF? I've wanted to get a second one of those for a long time but Kedminster said they weren't putting those back in production for the foreseeable future. Turns out it was a demo can, but only 500rds on it. So suppressor #3 in the pipeline. So you’re the reason it was OOS by the time I saw the email… The in stock emails are very delayed from my experience. My nomad L was in stock about 10 hours before I got the email. Hence why I say it’s best to check hourly. |
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I’ve had a back order ordered for over 3 weeks now…. Frustrating.
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